Democratic Debate (1 Viewer)

[Doctor Detroit]

Listening to Sanders is a flashback to 1972 I think I am seeing Mc Govern rebirth in Bernie

I boldly predict you will continue to amuse us all with your effort to compose a paragraph.

ool

 

[Higgs]

Why does she keep hammering equal pay for women? The Clinton Foundation was a terrible offender of underpaying women as compared to men. Makes no sense.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

 

[CBusAlex]

Hillary gets way too tactical when talking about foreign policy. It's like she has no high level beliefs.

This seems like a pretty fundamental difference between them. Bernie finished his answer to one of the foreign policy questions with "and that's how you get peace in the world." I don't think Hillary has ever had "peace in the world" as a motivation for her foreign policy, or even really considered it as a goal.

 

[TripItUp]

Good debate. Classy. PBS does a nice job.

Agreed, PBS really nailed this one. Best host of the cycle.

 

[Shula-holic]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

I thought Hillary won South Carolina tonight, both could be true. But in the context of South Carolina, I think some of those attacks will be effective.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

Do you think so? We'll know soon enough.

I think it was pretty even, Sanders with a slight advantage.

####### boring though. I have to have Trump and a moron like Cruz to hate to truly enjoy these.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Good debate. Classy. PBS does a nice job.

Agreed, PBS really nailed this one. Best host of the cycle.

 

[timschochet]

I fell asleep for most of this debate and tuned out much of the rest. I felt the last debate was much more interesting. But I am also not the intended audience so take my opinion for what it is worth...not much?

You would have loved the amnesty talk. Right in your wheelhouse!

I guess. But there is nothing they are going to say that is going to change my opinion about them and I suspect that there really isn't enough of a distinction between their two positions to impact how the voters will see them in the primaries.

Do you think Hillary did anything to cut into the huge lead that Bernie has with people under 35 at all tonight?

I'm not even going to try to guess.

 

[BassNBrew]

What if Obama doesn't want Hillary on his side?

 

[ffldrew]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

Do you think so? We'll know soon enough.

We know CNN thinks she won

 

[TripItUp]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart strategy for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

 

[crewmember]

CNN with team Hillary on board!

We got Bill Press now.

 

[Mister CIA]

Hillary killed it tonight with that closing statement. Mc Govern I mean Sanders lost this one

You, Tim and Squish - Three peas in a pod.

 

[ffldrew]

Wow - Bill Press nice job.

And FU Begala

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

Do you think so? We'll know soon enough.

We know CNN thinks she won

CNN is pro Hillary or something? I watch it a lot during the day, never got that impression. They actually spend more time on the Republicans on a daily basis.

 

[ffldrew]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

I thought the question was around/in context of foreign policy leaders

 

[TripItUp]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

I thought the question was around/in context of foreign policy leaders

FDR?

 

[Gawain]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart strategy for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

One of the reasons I really like Sanders is he doesn't do much pandering. FDR is his natural comparison with the safety nets he wants to see in place. To go anywhere else in the USA would be disingenuous at best.

Churchill did seem like an odd answer.

 

[timschochet]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

They've had 8 years of Obama; she is from the same party. It would be very odd if she didn't act as his heir.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I'll also agree, little juice tonight, Hillary ran scared on campaign finance, Bernie tried to patch through foreign policy but he was more effective than he's been.

I do think Bernie had the better soundbytes but its up to the networks to pull them. The exchange on not punishing kids was strong for him

 

[ffldrew]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

Do you think so? We'll know soon enough.

We know CNN thinks she won

CNN is pro Hillary or something? I watch it a lot during the day, never got that impression. They actually spend more time on the Republicans on a daily basis.

This panel is nearly the entire Hillary choir - Begala for Christ sake and Brazile. Then to top it off Gergen - hell why not ask Bill Clinton to sit in.

 

[HellToupee]

What if Obama doesn't want Hillary on his side?

Then she'll be indicted soon

 

[TripItUp]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart strategy for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

One of the reasons I really like Sanders is he doesn't do much pandering. FDR is his natural comparison with the safety nets he wants to see in place. To go anywhere else in the USA would be disingenuous at best.

Churchill did seem like an odd answer.

Sure he didn't pander but was it the best answer?

 

[mcintyre1]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

I thought the question was around/in context of foreign policy leaders

FDR?

... do you not consider FDR someone who had to deal with "foreign policy" issues?

 

[Bukkeye_State]

d

 

[skol asylum]

Sanders reminds me so much of McGovern

That's why he'd be schlonged in the general election by Trump or any Republican.

Sanders would destroy the Donald.

Trump would crush the Berm

X

Trump seems to only have a ceiling of 30-35% of Republicans only in a primary full of other unlikable flawed candidates. He'd get destroyed in a general election, especially facing the new reality demographics in this country. The embarrassing loss would be YUGE.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Bernie the clear winner tonight, I think he cruises in Nevada

Do you think so? We'll know soon enough.

We know CNN thinks she won

CNN is pro Hillary or something? I watch it a lot during the day, never got that impression. They actually spend more time on the Republicans on a daily basis.

This panel is nearly the entire Hillary choir - Begala for Christ sake and Brazile. Then to top it off Gergen - hell why not ask Bill Clinton to sit in.

Oh, I see. Yeah I'm not watching 14 people on set again trying to talk over each other.

 

[Mario Kart]

Who are the VP's going to be. That is going to be huge.

 

[Higgs]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart strategy for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

One of the reasons I really like Sanders is he doesn't do much pandering. FDR is his natural comparison with the safety nets he wants to see in place. To go anywhere else in the USA would be disingenuous at best.Churchill did seem like an odd answer.

His #1 priority tonight seemed to be shoring up his weakness on foreign policy. I actually thought he did a reasonably good job on that front too.

 

[Gopher State]

What if Obama doesn't want Hillary on his side?

You think he wants Sanders?

 

[BassNBrew]

Hillary - Obama took big money so it's cool that I do it.

 

[ffldrew]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

I thought the question was around/in context of foreign policy leaders

FDR?

You don't think FDR was a strong leader on foreign policy? Probably one of the best ever.

 

[The_Man]

People knocking the Kissinger stuff, but that plays with the old former hippies who are currently Hillary's top demographic

Agree that this debate probably didn't move the needle much. Bernie needs to get on the ground in South Carolina

 

[Smack Tripper]

So Hillary picked Mandela? Is she gonna bring back the Necklace to foreign policy?

 

[Willie Neslon]

I scored it 119-111 for Sanders

 

[SIDA!]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

They've had 8 years of Obama; she is from the same party. It would be very odd if she didn't act as his heir.

This is one of the reasons why I think HRC isn't a shoo in during the general assuming she gets the nomination. She is hugging Obama's nuts...partly to secure the black vote.

But here is the deal...people are not happy in general with the direction of the country. I can't remember the last time I saw a poll that had more than 50% of the country stating that America was on the "right track" or approved of Obama's job performance.

From Real Clear Politics:

President Obama Job Approval Gallup | Approve 48, Disapprove 48 Tie

President Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports | Approve 47, Disapprove 52 Disapprove +5
President Obama Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos | Approve 45, Disapprove 52 Disapprove +7
Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos | Right Direction 23, Wrong Track 63 Wrong Track +40

 

[TripItUp]

So striking that Hillary has no vision for herself. Now her message is vote for me if you like Obama

Blacks revere Obama...smart for the Southern primaries IMHO.

Bernie dropped the ball on FDR, should've went MLK.

I thought the question was around/in context of foreign policy leaders

FDR?

You don't think FDR was a strong leader on foreign policy? Probably one of the best ever.

I do, just not the answer I'd give if I were trying to win the upcoming primaries.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Who are the VP's going to be. That is going to be huge.

Castro for Hillary

The other Castro for Sanders

 

[ffldrew]

I scored it 119-111 for Sanders

Thanks Howard Lederman

 

[Phil Elliott]

When answering how she would address the refugees boats tipping over in the Mediterranean she said she would work with NATO to stop them from getting into Europe but they are welcome in the US?

 

[Mister CIA]

Listening to Sanders is a flashback to 1972 I think I am seeing Mc Govern rebirth in Bernie

I boldly predict you will continue to amuse us all with your effort to compose a paragraph.

ool

 

[Shula-holic]

Sanders reminds me so much of McGovern

That's why he'd be schlonged in the general election by Trump or any Republican.

Sanders would destroy the Donald.

Trump would crush the Berm

X

Trump seems to only have a ceiling of 30-35% of Republicans only in a primary full of other unlikable flawed candidates. He'd get destroyed in a general election, especially facing the new reality demographics in this country. The embarrassing loss would be YUGE.

He also isn't running against a Socialist in that primary. That's going to be an anchor around the neck in a general election.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

People knocking the Kissinger stuff, but that plays with the old former hippies who are currently Hillary's top demographic

Agree that this debate probably didn't move the needle much. Bernie needs to get on the ground in South Carolina

Hillary calling out Kissinger's name as a friend and advisor is kind of shocking thinking of how he was once regarded in the Democratic party, I thought that was a great point by Sanders. Henry is an architect of Vietnam intervention and Realpolitik, these were once thoroughly disgraced policies.

 

[rascal]

Biggest win was easily Sanders response to Clinton's attacks that he was critical of Obama, "I'm not the one who ran against him".

 

[Smack Tripper]

Is Hillary2024.com available?

 

[SIDA!]

Sanders reminds me so much of McGovern

That's why he'd be schlonged in the general election by Trump or any Republican.

Sanders would destroy the Donald.

Trump would crush the Berm

X

Trump seems to only have a ceiling of 30-35% of Republicans only in a primary full of other unlikable flawed candidates. He'd get destroyed in a general election, especially facing the new reality demographics in this country. The embarrassing loss would be YUGE.

I want to take you back in time. Oh...to around August 1, 2015. A whole 6 months ago.

What do you think Trump's ceiling at that time was?

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Biggest win was easily Sanders response to Clinton's attacks that he was critical of Obama, "I'm not the one who ran against him".

He should have taken that to the next step - "you said the same things about him then that you are saying about me now."

 

[Smack Tripper]

And this is the problem with Bernie: ideology first. Judgment later on. No pragmatism, no realism. And he's just wrong about Kissinger (and still going on about it.)

No, very hard to parse the good from the bad of Kissinger. Strange that she would line up with him.

Was Nixon redeemed because HE went to china?

IMO? Absolutely.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

People knocking the Kissinger stuff, but that plays with the old former hippies who are currently Hillary's top demographic

Agree that this debate probably didn't move the needle much. Bernie needs to get on the ground in South Carolina

Hillary calling out Kissinger's name as a friend and advisor is kind of shocking thinking of how he was once regarded in the Democratic party, I thought that was a great point by Sanders. Henry is an architect of Vietnam intervention and Realpolitik, these were once thoroughly disgraced policies.

That was one of many parts where Sanders ####### owned her. She looked like a total buffoon during that exchange.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Biggest win was easily Sanders response to Clinton's attacks that he was critical of Obama, "I'm not the one who ran against him".

Yeah his background and history explanation saying he stumped for Obama twice, and Obama came to Vermont when he was running for Senate to lend his support.

But even as someone who voted for Obama twice, I don't really care who has or hasn't supported him 100%. Bernie is not the VP who has to tell everyone he supports POTUS (well unless you are **** Dastardly Cheney).