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Denard 'Shoelace' Robinson and his Chris Johnson potential (1 Viewer)
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Fireinside
Footballguy
That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.
Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
Hope the better player fails because you own his backup?That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.
Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
FUBAR
Footballguy
He's a highly drafted rookie.Hope the better player fails because you own his backup?That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
We haven't seen if he's the better player.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It's not really even that uncommon. Backs have been drafted much higher than Yeldon and not been able to beat out the incumbent, who's fantasy value had tanked with the rookie coming in.That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.
Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
Thomas Jones with Cedric Benson (5th overall) and DeAngelo Williams with Jonathan Stewart (13th overall) both immediately come to mind.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
I project (guess) Yeldon to get 60% of the carries, but Robinson (as a COP back) getting more targets (12% as opposed to 4% for Yeldon)
Is that reasonable?
Is that reasonable?
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Are those really good examples though? Jones and DWill were also 1st round draft picks......not even remotely comparable to Denard.FreeBaGeL said:It's not really even that uncommon. Backs have been drafted much higher than Yeldon and not been able to beat out the incumbent, who's fantasy value had tanked with the rookie coming in.Fireinside said:That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
Thomas Jones with Cedric Benson (5th overall) and DeAngelo Williams with Jonathan Stewart (13th overall) both immediately come to mind.
Banger
Footballguy
Plus he'll clearly be the goalline back. If they're already talking kick returns and change of pace he's done opportunity wise. I'll have to watch this kid. I I think a lot of people may avoid Jax becuase it's Jax and how bad they've been. Could be some opportunity.
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
If Yeldon breaks one more long run, I think he is the only RB with 1,000 rushing yards in his first three seasons in Alabama history.
I think he is underrated for a few reasons.
1) He wasn't "the man" at Alabama, but he split time with some talented other RBs, like Eddie Lacy (but Lacy in turn also split time with Yeldon, and turned out OK).
2) Didn't run a a 4.4 (but you could say that about a lot of successful RBs).
3) JAX is perceived as a weak offense destination, but will it always be so (maybe his presence will make it better).
4) Gurley and Gordon stole his thunder, as the only first round RBs since 2012 (if not for them, I think he may have been the highest drafted RB in the past three drafts, which includes some good ones, like Bell, Lacy, Hill and Bernard?).
I'm impressed with him as a runner, especially his smooth, gliding style, and effortless movement skills, COD ability and elusiveness for a RB around 225 lbs. Barring injury, imo he carves out a large role for himself.
I think he is underrated for a few reasons.
1) He wasn't "the man" at Alabama, but he split time with some talented other RBs, like Eddie Lacy (but Lacy in turn also split time with Yeldon, and turned out OK).
2) Didn't run a a 4.4 (but you could say that about a lot of successful RBs).
3) JAX is perceived as a weak offense destination, but will it always be so (maybe his presence will make it better).
4) Gurley and Gordon stole his thunder, as the only first round RBs since 2012 (if not for them, I think he may have been the highest drafted RB in the past three drafts, which includes some good ones, like Bell, Lacy, Hill and Bernard?).
I'm impressed with him as a runner, especially his smooth, gliding style, and effortless movement skills, COD ability and elusiveness for a RB around 225 lbs. Barring injury, imo he carves out a large role for himself.
Nero
Footballguy
Fred Jackson bested Beastmode and Spiller who were both highly drafted.Are those really good examples though? Jones and DWill were also 1st round draft picks......not even remotely comparable to Denard.FreeBaGeL said:It's not really even that uncommon. Backs have been drafted much higher than Yeldon and not been able to beat out the incumbent, who's fantasy value had tanked with the rookie coming in.Fireinside said:That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
Thomas Jones with Cedric Benson (5th overall) and DeAngelo Williams with Jonathan Stewart (13th overall) both immediately come to mind.
Fireinside
Footballguy
Denard showed promise and now is one year wiser, so let's just see how this goes. Not giving up on him, as there's not much value there anyhow.Fred Jackson bested Beastmode and Spiller who were both highly drafted.Are those really good examples though? Jones and DWill were also 1st round draft picks......not even remotely comparable to Denard.FreeBaGeL said:It's not really even that uncommon. Backs have been drafted much higher than Yeldon and not been able to beat out the incumbent, who's fantasy value had tanked with the rookie coming in.Fireinside said:That's what I'm hoping. As an owner of Denard, I hope Yeldon will miss his blocking assignments, does something stupid and then coaches will tell us, there's a learning curve.Meanwhile, Denard will play the first games and shines like a star. Then they just can't keep Denard of the field and the rest is history.
It's not like stupider things haven't happened in NFL
Thomas Jones with Cedric Benson (5th overall) and DeAngelo Williams with Jonathan Stewart (13th overall) both immediately come to mind.
Shutout
Footballguy
I don't think the Jags are good enough to even remotely consistently give Yeldon 20 a game. You just can't do that without getting blown out unless you're pretty good and pretty balanced.
With that being said, IF the Jags are much more competitive than I think they will be, Yeldon is probably the rookie to do it this year because the Jags are clearly trying to give him the opportunity and that's great. For Robinson, Johnson and Gerhardt whom so many people were loving last year, that value is GONE, barring year-ending injury. People are kidding themselves if they think this offense can help those guys because if the Jags ARE good, it will be largely because of Yeldon if they aren't, its what we've seen for a while now. Can't make a consistent living on a team like that in fantasy.
Gopher State
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
just picked him up. start him over gore?
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SameSongNDance
Footballguy
He feels like a no-brainer RB1 given the match-up and opportunity. I'm not missing anything here am I?
cubbie5150
Footballguy
I'm strangely still concerned that Yeldon will play this week, and I more or less expect Denard to be a one week play only at most anyway. It's strange because it's not like Yeldon is a multi-year vet who has repeatedly played when hurt, but he has already done so this year. I probably feel this way because it's been a bad luck year for me. I just know that if I pick up Denard, Yeldon will be a surprise active (even though my rational side is telling me it's highly unlikely Yeldon is back before week 16).
shadyridr
Footballguy
yeldon was already declared out.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
What's the source? According to his coach a couple hours ago, it didn't seem like a decision had been made yet:
Gus at the podium now: "I've seen TJ really progress from Monday to today. He's a fast healer as well, so we will see." #Jaguars
— Sam Kouvaris (@samsportsline) December 16, 2015
shadyridr
Footballguy
some jags beat writer tweeted it
shadyridr
Footballguy
https://mobile.twitter.com/samsportsline
Here was the Twitter handle. Sorry those reports are all over the place. Such a joke.
Here was the Twitter handle. Sorry those reports are all over the place. Such a joke.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
grateful zed
Footballguy
SameSongNDance
Footballguy
Not sure if sarcasm. But just in case..
JAC has averaged the 9th most points per game this year. The name of the team is irrelevant, their offense has seemed to have turned a corner both in real life and in fantasy this year. Take into account that ATL has allowed the 3rd most points to RBs this year, that Yeldon averaged ~20 touches and game and Robinson has fresh legs and I think he finishes as a top 10 RB this week barring injury.
Mr. Brownstone
Footballguy
FUBAR
Footballguy
maybe, and I like Denard. Would love to start him. But with McCoy and D-Will (only 2 start), I don't think I have that level of gumption.
Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
I am also playing him over Draughn. After last week, I think it is pretty clear that he is done. I would only play him if I had no other options. If he can't even reach his 10 point floor in ppr, he is worthless because the ceiling is only about 15.
Denard had some great games in that offense last year and they are looking hot, are at home and are playing a weak team.
Meatwad Reloaded
Footballguy
That is good, not bad. They are an offense that moves the ball with ease and they are due for some rushing tds.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
They go wide and keep throwing. They're pretty efficient in the red zone.
6th in RZ opportunities, 10th in RZ TDs, 21st in %
Last 3 games they are 11/14 (1st/1st.)
cubbie5150
Footballguy
It's being scored that way on NFL, ESPN and Yahoo as well. Wondering if that's how it's officially scored.
