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Denard 'Shoelace' Robinson and his Chris Johnson potential (1 Viewer)
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Phantom Knight
Footballguy
Yep. This is where I was at also. I was surprised to see Denard still on the wire in a dynasty league with very little more than bye-week fillers available this far into the season. I threw $70 (out of $100) and was thrilled to get him at this price. I can cover bye weeks for $0 after waivers run each week and with this pick up, there is at least the possibility of having landed a future startable rb. I'll take that shot every time.
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
Great read on Shoelace:
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/standing-behind-bortles-the-conversion-of-denard-robinson/
http://grantland.com/the-triangle/standing-behind-bortles-the-conversion-of-denard-robinson/
DoubleG
Footballguy
"This season, he has zero fumbles on 102 touches."
Interesting read - thanks!
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I am pretty sure you are not remembering that correctly,
DaWidowMaker
Footballguy
I have not seen a single mention of the Waiver Wire of the Year (redraft). I think he is on that level/pace.
Banger
Footballguy
I picked him up before his first start, and have been rewarded. But I think Forsett and Sanu, and now Bryant, have been at another level in terms of guys who went wholly undrafted in 12-team leagues. And, while Mark Ingram was drafted late in most 12-team leagues, he went undrafted in many 10-team leagues.
ETA: How did I forget Hillman? Sorry.
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He still does not seem to get much respect. Most commentators think it is a matter of time before he gets injured. Maybe that will happen, but it sure seems that even "big" RBs get injured pretty often. Meanwhile, little guys like Forsett, Ellington and Hillman keep on racking up points.
Skeptics coming around to Denard?
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11826835
"If you squint you can see a young Chris Johnson." LOL
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11826835
"If you squint you can see a young Chris Johnson." LOL
MAC_32
Footballguy
I really try not to be an I told you so person, but there are some poster's from earlier in this thread that leave me with an itchy trigger finger. One in particular.
Keeping an open mind will do some people better in life. Myself included...just not in this case.
bostonfred
Footballguy
Props for a great call here. I didn't invest in dynasty but got in ahead of the curve in a keeper league where he may have saved my season.
John 14:6
Jesus is Lord!
thanks for restraining. Wouldn't want this to take a turn like some other RB threads here...
FUBAR
Footballguy
MAC - good call, or at least it looks that way right now.
I'll admit to being somewhat wrong about him.
don't break your arm patting yourself on the back though.
MAC_32
Footballguy
lol, I got real discouraged in the 2nd half last year when he didn't get more run despite the Jags being way out of it.
Made sense later. The nerve issue came back, as did the fumble issues, and the staff over whelmed him with multiple positions rather than just one role. This offseason they had him focus on one role, he put on 10 pounds, his nerve issue got better, and he stopped putting the ball on the turf - boom, stud.
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
Why the nickname Shoelace?
offdee
Footballguy
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
32 Counter Pass
Footballguy
That is funny. How does he keep from tripping over his laces, or keep his shoes on after a tackle?FUBAR said:
Niles Standish
Footballguy
If you've watched a Jags game he typically trips on them multiple times a game. And has lost his shoes a few times. This was a major issue during the infamous mud-bowl where he was unable to keep any sort of traction whenever he lost his cletes.
I'd guess his per carry average would increase 1-2 yards if the coaching staff forced him to tie his shoes. I think it helps that most of his games are blacked out because the fans don't see this issue and don't get to complain.
Banger
Footballguy
don't want to get too far ahead of myself but I'm getting pretty excited that I picked him up in my keeper league. He's got the talent and opportunity and the way the Jags were running when he got the job if I told you he'd run for 127, 108 and 94 yards with 2 tds and 5.8 ypc I would've been laughed out of the forums.
This is exactly why you can't over think these situations when they pop up…all I heard was the Jags stink, they don't get more than 15 carries a game, RBs have run for 3.? ypc…not only from the boards but this was from "experts" on podcasts and siriusxm. I thought they were nuts to discount him because a talented player can flip the script and change the way things operate. I certainly didn't expect this but from hearing his story and knowing his talent you knew they were going to give him a decent shot.
This is exactly why you can't over think these situations when they pop up…all I heard was the Jags stink, they don't get more than 15 carries a game, RBs have run for 3.? ypc…not only from the boards but this was from "experts" on podcasts and siriusxm. I thought they were nuts to discount him because a talented player can flip the script and change the way things operate. I certainly didn't expect this but from hearing his story and knowing his talent you knew they were going to give him a decent shot.
Denard certainly had flaws as a college QB but he had a lot of features that I thought (even when he was in college) would give him a shot at transitioning to NFL. He had legit top speed, read blocks very well as a running QB, tough as nails, an amazing attitude (his teammates loved him) and he had incredible work ethic. Lots of people who get to the NFL work hard. But not everyone with Denard's natural talent or who got the attention he did as a QB are willing to work like he does. He quietly transformed his body and his skills to become a RB. A very rare combination of talent and dedication. Meanwhile, he always comes off as one the absolute nicest guys in sports having the most fun playing a game.
Glad I own him in one dynasty league to see how he continues to progress.
Glad I own him in one dynasty league to see how he continues to progress.
FUBAR
Footballguy
Ned Ryerson
Footballguy
Very much like chris Johnson (including the 2 upcoming on plays where he isn't breaking a long one.)
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
best WW pickup I've made since Warner in 2007
Apple Juice
Footballguy
Great story. As a Michigan fan I believed his running ability was good enough to translate because he knows how to be patient with blocks, start and stop like a jitter bug. But I didn't think he could get big and powerful enough. He has.
It seems too obvious a comparison with Chris Johnson but the similarities are hard to ignore. Love that I got him in dynasty.
It seems too obvious a comparison with Chris Johnson but the similarities are hard to ignore. Love that I got him in dynasty.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Damn, forgot he was on bye next week.
DoubleG
Footballguy
No, it's all good - he'll juke, make one cut and be gone- the bye will miss him. TD!!!!
I have seen him line up out wide in the games, but not really any more often then other teams who line their main RB out wide in empty backfield formations
Jerry Curl
Footballguy
The fact he is not owned in 100% of leagues across the board is funny. One of the better players right now.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Seriously, even in a 4 team league with shallow benches, he needs to be owned.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Not his best day - low YPC, fumble - but good to see him involved in the passing game. Gerhart was 4-31 running the ball but the coaches seem committed to Denard, good to see they didn't panic when he turned it over.
Tough decisions going forward; started Shoelace over Crowell today.
Tough decisions going forward; started Shoelace over Crowell today.
