duaneok66
Footballguy
great post . . .Really.Tell you something else bro, in a few hours there's going to be a lot of "Man, I wish I saw that coming! Blew up on my bench.
" responses.
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Denarius Moore - CIncinnatti Bengals (1 Viewer)
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Dought Man
Footballguy
Moore owners might as well start him on the BYE week as well... to keep your scoring consistent. Consistency is the key to winning in FF 
duaneok66
Footballguy
this guy has a point . . .Moore owners might as well start him on the BYE week as well... to keep your scoring consistent. Consistency is the key to winning in FF
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
DHB had 4/52 after Campbell went out
cubbie5150
Footballguy
So much for using Denarius even for BYE weeks
Xue
Footballguy
True...I'm holding onto DHB. Better chemistry with Boller maybe?
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Topes
Footballguy
Not really. You might want to adjust your posts per page.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Chew-chew indeed. I think Denarious is the best all around receiver in Oakland. Now Carson Palmer is not that great. It isn't like he's had any mustard on his throws for years, but one of Moore's stengths is his ability to adjust. He's very polished for a rookie and I think he'll have some value moving forward.
Dought Man
Footballguy
He and the other 6 receivers on Oakland who shuffle in and out of the lineup? When will people learn...
shnikies
Footballguy
I planned on dropping Moore this week since Campbell obviously had no interest in getting him involved but now that they have Palmer I'll hold onto him to see how he does. You never know, Palmer could watch film and tell the coaches they'd like to get Moore more involved. It's obviously unlikely he does anything substantial but I think it's worth waiting to see how the targets are distributed with Palmer.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Keep trying to get the sinking SS Moore ship afloat by whatever rationale possible!Not only am I sitting here with a poop eating grin that I was able to flip Moore and Bernard Scott (looks like Benson is only missing 1 game) for Santonio 2 weeks ago, but Im also laughing at the people in here who said it was a bad trade for me. At this point, I would drop Moore and Scott for WW fodder but instead I got my WR2 for the rest of the year
shnikies
Footballguy
You're still 2-4Keep trying to get the sinking SS Moore ship afloat by whatever rationale possible!Not only am I sitting here with a poop eating grin that I was able to flip Moore and Bernard Scott (looks like Benson is only missing 1 game) for Santonio 2 weeks ago, but Im also laughing at the people in here who said it was a bad trade for me. At this point, I would drop Moore and Scott for WW fodder but instead I got my WR2 for the rest of the year
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
I was 0-4 before the tradeYou're still 2-4Keep trying to get the sinking SS Moore ship afloat by whatever rationale possible!Not only am I sitting here with a poop eating grin that I was able to flip Moore and Bernard Scott (looks like Benson is only missing 1 game) for Santonio 2 weeks ago, but Im also laughing at the people in here who said it was a bad trade for me. At this point, I would drop Moore and Scott for WW fodder but instead I got my WR2 for the rest of the year
Cenobite
Footballguy
I wasn't one of them.Keep trying to get the sinking SS Moore ship afloat by whatever rationale possible!Not only am I sitting here with a poop eating grin that I was able to flip Moore and Bernard Scott (looks like Benson is only missing 1 game) for Santonio 2 weeks ago, but Im also laughing at the people in here who said it was a bad trade for me. At this point, I would drop Moore and Scott for WW fodder but instead I got my WR2 for the rest of the year
Cenobite, on 07 October 2011 - 10:24 AM, said:Kenny Powers, on 06 October 2011 - 09:50 PM, said:
Just traded Moore and Bernard Scott for Santonio...
Off the bandwagon, hopefully it was the right move.
I would trade Moore for Holmes straight up. Since nobody is offering such a trade in my league I hope I am wrong. The projections I have read on Moore are very TD dependent. If he does not score his stat. line will not be anywhere near his projected point total. Moore's floor is what has me concerned.
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
Same boat but in a 10-team dynasty. Better choices at WR for Moore than you have but I have plenty of them, including DHB, so no need to rush. I do have Wallace, Austin, Smith (Car) and we have short benches with only 40 WR's roster-ed. I was going to make a move for Baldwin this week, as I really like what I see with his situation, by dropping Moore but Palmer has bought him a reprieve; we do have limited moves and I only have 3 left, so that plays into it too.
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Hoss Style
Footballguy
In a keeper league but was still going to drop Moore this week (he's been bench fodder for me). Now I'm going to hold him for a few moore weeks. (sorry). Anyway, he's got the talent - anyone can see that (except for the Raider's staff). Maybe with Palmer coming in he likes throwing to Moore and asks for increased plays to the young WR. We know Carson likes the deep ball when he can get it.
Just a gut feeling - but I'm holding on to Moore for a bit (as long as I have the bench room).
Just a gut feeling - but I'm holding on to Moore for a bit (as long as I have the bench room).
Dr. Gobbler
Footballguy
I have that same gut feeling too. Whenever a QB comes to a new system they usually tend to target whoever they can establish a rhythm with, chemistry as it were. It just might be DM. Since I picked up CP off of the WW if it turns out to be DM then that might be a great 1-2 combo going into the playoffs.
Polish Hammer
made of glass
Palmer did well with Chris Henry, right? How similar in terms of physicality/skills are Moore and Henry?
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I agree with your post. I badly need a bye week filler for the next two weeks and the only possible drop is Moore, but I am holding because I truly believe in his talent and his situation is unknown, but has high possibilities of improving. Moore won't start for me till after his bye at the earliest, but he's too valuable a talent to ditch for a flavor of the week pickup that most will forget around the time of the fantasy playoffs. I'm holding, and if Moore is my last man on my bench, well that's just a good problem to have I guess.
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Yep, my take as well...might need him week 9, and I figure at this point, he's no more undependable than guys like Salas/Demaryius Thomas.
his playing time is not the problem, hes out there for plenty of routes. campbell just didnt target him much, for whatever reason. ofc, i wouldnt be surprised to see his playing time decrease as jacoby ford has looked every bit the better player, and even hagen, murphy or shilens deserve a shot over a guy who is producing zilch.
Eastwood
Footballguy
Nope, a lot dumber. If you draft well, having a few bad weeks from 1 player during the first quarter of the season won't kill ya. But owning a young stud like Moore for the next 10 years in a dynasty is genius
CHOOOO CHOOOOO
duaneok66
Footballguy
he HAS dpne nothing the last few weeks . . .Calling it now, Moore will become a fantasy darling again before the season is over, and all the posters here that have been laughing it up how he's nothing special will look really dumb. Again.
duaneok66
Footballguy
good post, but most were expecting starter numbers in the last three weeks . . .Nope, a lot dumber. If you draft well, having a few bad weeks from 1 player during the first quarter of the season won't kill ya. But owning a young stud like Moore for the next 10 years in a dynasty is genius
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
I've rolled with him each and every week of this season. Yet both my teams are 4-2, tops in power rankings and all-play record.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Yeah, he'll be a darling for 2 weeks again after he puts up another 150yd/1td game and then fade back to where he is nowCalling it now, Moore will become a fantasy darling again before the season is over, and all the posters here that have been laughing it up how he's nothing special will look really dumb. Again.
glumpy
breeze
Now that's the comparison I was hoping for!! Too bad it doesn't settle the choice....
glumpy
breeze
Both are available in my league and I'm looking at dropping Manningham for one. Right now leaning DHP, though I've been psyched about Moore since preseason, and at $3 fer shoor he's in my pool.eta--just a cover, really, since that's my #3 I'm looking at behind Dez & Dwayne.
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LawFitz
Footballguy
Or was it Campbell that wasn't producing? The deck just got reshuffled. Who knows who will click with Palmer. I'm holding DHB and Ford for now, but it could easily be Moore who becomes the stud here. He's the most polished WR. But he's not as explosive as the other two or as big and strong as DHB.
duaneok66
Footballguy
doubt that since he's a rookie - most rookies are unpolished because they havent mastered the nuances of the position . . .
glumpy
breeze
No question I might be overthinking it. Had Manningham last year, Drafted, dropped and picked up again this year...he's a favorite of mine. Really losing faith though and likely won't play him, so it's a shot at lightning in a bottle. Love Palmer going to that offense but not going after QB with my roster so just looking for some play with my WR3. It's all good!
Hoss Style
Footballguy
Not sure why you quoted my post here for your response. I never mentioned playing time. I mentioned Carson might gel with him and ask for more plays to be called for Moore as the primary option. I watch most of the Raider games and I see Moore on the field but haven't seen Campbell looking his way as much as I thought he would. But I must disagree that Ford has "looked every bit the better player" and that Hagen, Murphy or Schilens "deserve" the shot. Basically, as you said, Campbell didn't get him the ball - although it seems that the coaching staff didn't call as many plays for Moore, either. Either way - Moore did look good when they threw him catchable passes. He snagged practically every one from what I've seen.Anyway, the point of my post was not that Moore didn't get playing time. He did. The point of my post was that Carson might favor Moore since he likes the deep ball, as the Raiders do, and Moore might get increased looks. "Might" is the key word. Who knows - but I'm going to wait a few weeks and see.
I'm not one of the ones saying Moore is the next great thing - all I'm saying is that he might be - given the chance. He has a new QB and things could change. If I have the bench room I try to use it to take chances on young talent, which is all I'm doing here - taking a chance.
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Hoss Style
Footballguy
I also don't understand the DHB love you keep professing. If anything, there's more in the past to discredit DHB than any other WR on the Raider's roster.The last 3 games for me do not erase his previous 2+ years of bad play. I don't know about last year but I remember his rookie season he was dropping an incredible 17% of the passes thrown his way which was by far the most for any WR with 40+ targets. In 2010 he played in 15 games and only had 26 catches. The first two games this year he had 4 catches for 44 yards and the next game had one catch for 5 yards.I know he's played better the last 3 games - but to wonder how anyone might still like Moore over DHB in the long run is a bit of a stretch, I'd say. I wish DHB the best but I wouldn't say I'm "sold" on him yet.
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I wanted to do the same thing, but just decided to hedge and drop Moore for Palmer. I think there probably is room in this offense for 2 viable fantasy WRs. I just think we might not figure it out for a few more weeks and I don't have the time.
FavreCo
Footballguy
No kidding. Anything is better than a Yugo. Maybe the deep ball will actually be inbounds and therefore catchable.
i think it was quite clear that poster was referring to redraft leagues where, ya, it seems crazy to prefer moore. its funny that you are maligning dhb's other yrs when moore has performed only slightly better this yr. he is on pace for 35 catches and 554 yards.'Hoss Style said:
Dought Man
Footballguy
Should the subtitle of this thread be "clinging to hope" ?
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