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With reports out there that PHI is putting out feelers for Dixon since he knows Chip Kelly's system, what do you think about his prospects with the Eagles? Purely a backup? Could he have a shot to start? If he does start (probably a long shot), what type of numbers would be likely/possible?It's an interesting scenario to think about, in my opinion. -Do you guys have any thoughts on this situation?

 
I've picked him up in some QB-valuable leagues where I own Foles, but I don't expect him to be the starter. He's underrated as a QB, but he's also rail thin and I don't think he'd last long, especially not running the read option.But stranger things have happened. It's pretty close to a perfect situation for him.

 
I've picked him up in some QB-valuable leagues where I own Foles, but I don't expect him to be the starter. He's underrated as a QB, but he's also rail thin and I don't think he'd last long, especially not running the read option.But stranger things have happened. It's pretty close to a perfect situation for him.
Yeah, this does sort of seem to be the perfect storm for Dixon to get another shot, in some capacity, with PHI. And frankly, I think he could be fun to watch in Kelly's system in PHI. Not sure how I'd feel about that possiblity if I was an Eagles fan though...
 
MY feeling is that he's there purely as a guy that knows Kelly's offense if he does come to Philly. He probably wouldn't be more than a backup and most likely is gone after a year or 2 once Kelly gets things established and finds the QB he really wants.

 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.

 
Vick will not be running the offense. He will not be on the team. I dont understand why anyone would think that Vick factors into the QB equation in Philadelphia going forward.

 
Dennis Dixon played one season in Chip Kelly's system, and hasn't played in that type of offense for over 5 years. I'm just sayin'...

 
So, it seems the best-case scenario for Dixon now would be to serve as QB2 behind Vick (after a Foles trade?). Not much fantasy/dynasty value there, imo, aside from maybe a couple starts if Vick is banged up.

 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
 
'Kenny Powers said:
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.
 
'Kenny Powers said:
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

This is a great point. No one knows which offense Kelly is going to put together. All I know so far is that it will probably be fast paced. In terms of the trade, I'm not quite sure what the Eagles could get for Foles at this point. The weak quarterback class this year probably increases his value and his contract makes him a better asset (financially) than Alex Smith or Matt Flynn. The return in a potential trade really comes down to what the Eagles can get in return for Foles. If they can get a second round pick for AJ Feeley, I wouldn't be surprised to see them get a second round pick for Foles.

 
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'Kenny Powers said:
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

Yes.
 
'Kenny Powers said:
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

Yes.He had "2 completely different playbooks" as people like to think is needed for a Vick - Foles combo in Philly?
 
Dixon is probably the stop gap until Chip finds "his guy." Foles doesn't fit and it makes no sence to build a team around Vick at this point.

 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

The Eagles could get the Chiefs 4.01 pick which is just 8 picks back from where they got Foles last year. The Chiefs 4th and 7th should be enough to get the deal done. As for Kelly, what else is he going to say? He can't come out and say that he'd have to leave out plays if Foles was the QB because he can't run them but it's the truth.

 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

:unsure: Should you be sharing insider secrets on a fantasy football board?

 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

:unsure: Should you be sharing insider secrets on a fantasy football board?

Settle down there.
 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.

The Eagles could get the Chiefs 4.01 pick which is just 8 picks back from where they got Foles last year. The Chiefs 4th and 7th should be enough to get the deal done. As for Kelly, what else is he going to say? He can't come out and say that he'd have to leave out plays if Foles was the QB because he can't run them but it's the truth.

Glad you're not in charge of my team. You'd trade a QB who's shown that he can play on an NFL field and has an average salary of $730k for the next 3 years for a pick that was less than what they drafted him for a year earlier? He's worth more to the team as a backup than a 4th round pick. I wouldn't trade him for anything less than a 2nd.
 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.
The Eagles could get the Chiefs 4.01 pick which is just 8 picks back from where they got Foles last year. The Chiefs 4th and 7th should be enough to get the deal done. As for Kelly, what else is he going to say? He can't come out and say that he'd have to leave out plays if Foles was the QB because he can't run them but it's the truth.

Glad you're not in charge of my team. You'd trade a QB who's shown that he can play on an NFL field and has an average salary of $730k for the next 3 years for a pick that was less than what they drafted him for a year earlier? He's worth more to the team as a backup than a 4th round pick. I wouldn't trade him for anything less than a 2nd.Yeah it would be much better if you were in charge lets make Kelly adjust his whole system to fit an average at best Qb. We can have him sit on the bench for the next 3 years until he leaves in free agency that's a much better plan. Eagles fans act like Foles was Cam Newton as a rookie he was average at best and won 1 game even Vick won 3 and he was awful. If the Eagles get 4.1 for Foles and get a Qb in this draft that runs the system Kelly WANTS I will be more then happy. I hope they adjust the system for Watkins also because he was decent for a few games as a rookie also and he was a first rounder
 
Dixon may also be signed to let the Eagles deal Foles. If Kelly is comfortable with Vick running his offense or feels confident he can land someone like Manuel in the draft Dixon allows the Eagles to trade Foles and pick up another building block.
Who would realistically be interested in Foles after how he looked last year?
I don't think people understand trading in the NFL. We could get at best a 4th for Foles right now. More likely a 5th. Why would you trade a 2nd year QB that you just drafted in the 3rd for a 5th? A 5th gets you nothing. A 5th is depth and maybe a shot in the dark hopeful starter one day. You don't trade QBs with a set salary structure for a 5th rounder. Also, there's this ridiculous notion that Foles doesn't fit Kelly's offense. Kelly has said at least 4 different times that Foles could run his offense and that whether its Vick or Foles, the playbook doesn't change. Did Shanahan change the offense for Cousins? Did Pete Caroll change his offense after the preseason when he decided on Wilson instead of Flynn? No. It's such terrible group think.
The Eagles could get the Chiefs 4.01 pick which is just 8 picks back from where they got Foles last year. The Chiefs 4th and 7th should be enough to get the deal done. As for Kelly, what else is he going to say? He can't come out and say that he'd have to leave out plays if Foles was the QB because he can't run them but it's the truth.

Glad you're not in charge of my team. You'd trade a QB who's shown that he can play on an NFL field and has an average salary of $730k for the next 3 years for a pick that was less than what they drafted him for a year earlier? He's worth more to the team as a backup than a 4th round pick. I wouldn't trade him for anything less than a 2nd.Yeah it would be much better if you were in charge lets make Kelly adjust his whole system to fit an average at best Qb. We can have him sit on the bench for the next 3 years until he leaves in free agency that's a much better plan. Eagles fans act like Foles was Cam Newton as a rookie he was average at best and won 1 game even Vick won 3 and he was awful. If the Eagles get 4.1 for Foles and get a Qb in this draft that runs the system Kelly WANTS I will be more then happy. I hope they adjust the system for Watkins also because he was decent for a few games as a rookie also and he was a first rounderHyperbole much? I don't speak for everyone but Foles showed signs of being able to play in the NFL. He wasn't great by any stretch but he improved in each of his starts and showed great football intelligence in using the whole playbook and not just a dumbed down version. He was surprisingly better at moving in the pocket then we were led to believe. Very similar to how Tom Brady moves well to avoid pressure but is about as slow a QB as you'll find. He has potential. I would rather keep Foles than give him away for nothing. That's what a 4th round pick amounts to. So far Kelly has said that Foles can run his system. History has shown that Kelly has adjusted his system successfully to the personnel he has had at both New Hampshire and Oregon. Only a fool would think that Kelly is going to run the EXACT same offense he ran at Oregon in the NFL. He's going to adjust it to fit NFL players and NFL defenses. He's not the first read option guy in the league. NFL defense coordinators have plenty of film on Oregon to see what Kelly is capable of. Why would he play into their hands by running it exactly the same?

The point is that Foles has more value as a cheap backup QB than a 4th round pick does. To move him for a 4th is simply a dump to get him off the roster. Its a step above cutting the guy.

 
Foles showed some grit last year. Philly made it through the year with one starting o lineman healthy....... And Foles still showed some flashes. If any qb is getting dealt, it'd be Vick, and the restructured contract makes it unlikely. Foles value is equal to the chiefs 2.1 right now and it could very well appreciate......

 
If you lead a fourth quarter drive to win the game, that's one thing... but when you draw the final play in the dirt (which is not in the playbook) that becomes a successful touchdown pass to win the game, that shows you something on a completely different level.

 
Foles showed some grit last year. Philly made it through the year with one starting o lineman healthy....... And Foles still showed some flashes. If any qb is getting dealt, it'd be Vick, and the restructured contract makes it unlikely. Foles value is equal to the chiefs 2.1 right now and it could very well appreciate......
Foles has some flaws that make the 2.1 too expensive IMO. With that said, I think he played well in 5 of his 7 games last year. Two were absolutely terrible but he kept them in the other games and even won a game on the road at TB and completed 67% of his passes.
 

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