Dez Bryant arrested (1 Viewer)

[simmonjm]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions.

Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

 

[Bankerguy]

According to the police report, officers who responded to the 911 call from Bryant's mother did not observe any injuries and she did not complain of pain at the time. Then when she came back days later and showed some evidence physical altercation they are required by law to make the arrest. A judge and jury sort out guilt and innoncence. The fact that they arrested and charged him speaks to nothing as to whether she initiated violence or whether Dez was just trying to restrain her. So far we've only got one side of the story, and that's hers, and it seems to change by the day.

I'm not being an apologist for Dez. He's clearly calpable on some level and his actions are unnacceptable. I would never touch my Mother unless my own life was in critical danger.

However, I would like to not rush to judgement on this incident. Hopefully more facts and the other side of the story come to light.

On the whole Dez has overcome a lot in his life and he deserves some credit for that. However thats where my admiration stops. You are pro athlete and a millionaire. He must grow up and starting acting like a man.

He sure is a pain in the ### for us Cowboy fans.

 

[cobalt_27]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions. Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

So, let's review...Became ineligible to play in NCAA for failing to disclose his ties to Prime Time.Took a million dollars of jewelry.Failed to pay for a million dollars worth of said jewelry. Got sued.Dropped trow at a mall.And got into confrontation with security over said dropped trow.Detained by police for nightclub altercation.Beat up mom.And your position is that he's just fallen into a lot of bad luck, obviously. A lot of kids grow up in hopeless circumstances, some much worse than Dez, and they come through. So, I'm not buying this sob story about his circumstances. There's something flat out wrong with this kid's head. And, all he can say is, "I'm good. I'm good."No, Dez...you're anything but good.

 

[Borat]

Now people are defending some jackass who beats on his mom? This may be a new low for the shark pool.

Says Borat, the jackass.

Takes one to know one.

 

[Borat]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant.

 

[cobalt_27]

According to the police report, officers who responded to the 911 call from Bryant's mother did not observe any injuries and she did not complain of pain at the time. Then when she came back days later and showed some evidence physical altercation they are required by law to make the arrest. A judge and jury sort out guilt and innoncence. The fact that they arrested and charged him speaks to nothing as to whether she initiated violence or whether Dez was just trying to restrain her. So far we've only got one side of the story, and that's hers, and it seems to change by the day.I'm not being an apologist for Dez. He's clearly calpable on some level and his actions are unnacceptable. I would never touch my Mother unless my own life was in critical danger.However, I would like to not rush to judgement on this incident. Hopefully more facts and the other side of the story come to light. On the whole Dez has overcome a lot in his life and he deserves some credit for that. However thats where my admiration stops. You are pro athlete and a millionaire. He must grow up and starting acting like a man.He sure is a pain in the ### for us Cowboy fans.

Yup. Spot on.That said, fact that there even was an incident is part of a concerning trend with Dez, who has his GPS locked in on a variety of incidents. I think it's only a matter of time before he really and truly screws up. I mean, unless he makes a miraculous turnaround and does it soon...he's going to keep pecking away at these indiscretions and finally one day...he's going to wind up behind bars.Or worse.

 

[cobalt_27]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant.

I would have agreed with the sentiment 10 years ago. And, I suppose on some existential level I still do. But, he's got to get his #### together, and there's zero indication that he even sees there is a problem.So, for that, there's no one for whom to feel bad, except those that have the misfortune of being connected to him in some way.

 

[netnalp]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions. Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

So, let's review...Became ineligible to play in NCAA for failing to disclose his ties to Prime Time.Took a million dollars of jewelry.Failed to pay for a million dollars worth of said jewelry. Got sued.Dropped trow at a mall.And got into confrontation with security over said dropped trow.Detained by police for nightclub altercation.Beat up mom.And your position is that he's just fallen into a lot of bad luck, obviously. A lot of kids grow up in hopeless circumstances, some much worse than Dez, and they come through. So, I'm not buying this sob story about his circumstances. There's something flat out wrong with this kid's head. And, all he can say is, "I'm good. I'm good."No, Dez...you're anything but good.

And Simm, it's not his thuggish dress that bothered the cops it was he's walking around with his underwear hanging out. If he wants to wear a sag, he should put on some basketball shorts under his jeans. A sag looks to me like the person is advertising that they're open for some rear deliveries.

 

[netnalp]

According to the police report, officers who responded to the 911 call from Bryant's mother did not observe any injuries and she did not complain of pain at the time. Then when she came back days later and showed some evidence physical altercation they are required by law to make the arrest. A judge and jury sort out guilt and innoncence. The fact that they arrested and charged him speaks to nothing as to whether she initiated violence or whether Dez was just trying to restrain her. So far we've only got one side of the story, and that's hers, and it seems to change by the day.I'm not being an apologist for Dez. He's clearly calpable on some level and his actions are unnacceptable. I would never touch my Mother unless my own life was in critical danger.However, I would like to not rush to judgement on this incident. Hopefully more facts and the other side of the story come to light. On the whole Dez has overcome a lot in his life and he deserves some credit for that. However thats where my admiration stops. You are pro athlete and a millionaire. He must grow up and starting acting like a man.He sure is a pain in the ### for us Cowboy fans.

Yup. Spot on.That said, fact that there even was an incident is part of a concerning trend with Dez, who has his GPS locked in on a variety of incidents. I think it's only a matter of time before he really and truly screws up. I mean, unless he makes a miraculous turnaround and does it soon...he's going to keep pecking away at these indiscretions and finally one day...he's going to wind up behind bars.Or worse.

Definitely looks like his incidents are escalating in severity.

 

[Lavachebeadsman]

As a Cowboys fan, I'm honestly pissed at the guy. This is a superbowl level talent team, but not without Dez at full strength.

 

[metoo]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

 

[whatadai]

Now people are defending some jackass who beats on his mom? This may be a new low for the shark pool.

Says Borat, the jackass.

Takes one to know one.

Nice insult...for a 7 year old.

 

[netnalp]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

 

[Raider Nation]

Remember when Ireland asked Dez if his Mom was a whore?

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=530216&view=findpost&p=11775167

 

[Borat]

Now people are defending some jackass who beats on his mom? This may be a new low for the shark pool.

Says Borat, the jackass.

Takes one to know one.

Nice insult...for a 7 year old.

Most 7 year olds would have realized that my comment was self-deprecating. Maybe you should consult with one.

 

[whatadai]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

Don't see how that's worse than Dez...he was never saved from the ghetto. I wouldn't be surprised if he was beaten by his crackwhore mom a lot or whoever took care of him while she was in jail.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

you gotta keep your girls in line if you wanna be a successful pimp.

 

[netnalp]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

Don't see how that's worse than Dez...he was never saved from the ghetto. I wouldn't be surprised if he was beaten by his crackwhore mom a lot or whoever took care of him while she was in jail.

I think the main point is, Willis was given a lousy hand and chose not to make things worse. Dez seems to be oblivious to how his actions are contributing to the problems in his life.

 

[simmonjm]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions. Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

So, let's review...Became ineligible to play in NCAA for failing to disclose his ties to Prime Time.Took a million dollars of jewelry.Failed to pay for a million dollars worth of said jewelry. Got sued.Dropped trow at a mall.And got into confrontation with security over said dropped trow.Detained by police for nightclub altercation.Beat up mom.And your position is that he's just fallen into a lot of bad luck, obviously. A lot of kids grow up in hopeless circumstances, some much worse than Dez, and they come through. So, I'm not buying this sob story about his circumstances. There's something flat out wrong with this kid's head. And, all he can say is, "I'm good. I'm good."No, Dez...you're anything but good.

Love the hyperbole. Beat up mom yet she had no marks when examined by police. Im not sure if your aware of this but alot of young black males wear their pants low but lets condeme Dez like he has committed major crime. I already addressed the money thing is it really that different than the million of americans who lost their homes to foreclosures?

 

[whatadai]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

Don't see how that's worse than Dez...he was never saved from the ghetto. I wouldn't be surprised if he was beaten by his crackwhore mom a lot or whoever took care of him while she was in jail.

I think the main point is, Willis was given a lousy hand and chose not to make things worse. Dez seems to be oblivious to how his actions are contributing to the problems in his life.

Not so sure it's Dez's fault that he's making things worse. If you look at it...guys like PDub, Jimmy Graham, Oher, etc. had people take them in and basically became family. Dez's crackwhore mom and step siblings are the only family he's known. I don't want to get into a nature vs. nurture argument on a fantasy football site, so just saying, considering the things he's been through and the fact that you can't place a value on who's been through worse ####, it's hard to blame Dez for...1. Still acting like he's from the ghetto.

2. Not leaving his only family.

 

[simmonjm]

And Simm, it's not his thuggish dress that bothered the cops it was he's walking around with his underwear hanging out. If he wants to wear a sag, he should put on some basketball shorts under his jeans. A sag looks to me like the person is advertising that they're open for some rear deliveries.

You have obviously have never been to any Dallas mall, they have some of the strictest dress codes in the entire country. Its no surprise that Dez was stopped by security, if it was any other mall he likely shops without incident.

 

[simmonjm]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

Don't see how that's worse than Dez...he was never saved from the ghetto. I wouldn't be surprised if he was beaten by his crackwhore mom a lot or whoever took care of him while she was in jail.

I think the main point is, Willis was given a lousy hand and chose not to make things worse. Dez seems to be oblivious to how his actions are contributing to the problems in his life.

Not so sure it's Dez's fault that he's making things worse. If you look at it...guys like PDub, Jimmy Graham, Oher, etc. had people take them in and basically became family. Dez's crackwhore mom and step siblings are the only family he's known. I don't want to get into a nature vs. nurture argument on a fantasy football site, so just saying, considering the things he's been through and the fact that you can't place a value on who's been through worse ####, it's hard to blame Dez for...1. Still acting like he's from the ghetto.

2. Not leaving his only family.

I love how someone cited Patrick Willis who is the exception to the rule and used it as basis that Dez should be a model citizen. Thats like saying someone who spent 60% of their income on the lottery and won after 20 years has a sound financial strategy.

 

[Borat]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions. Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

So, let's review...Became ineligible to play in NCAA for failing to disclose his ties to Prime Time.Took a million dollars of jewelry.Failed to pay for a million dollars worth of said jewelry. Got sued.Dropped trow at a mall.And got into confrontation with security over said dropped trow.Detained by police for nightclub altercation.Beat up mom.And your position is that he's just fallen into a lot of bad luck, obviously. A lot of kids grow up in hopeless circumstances, some much worse than Dez, and they come through. So, I'm not buying this sob story about his circumstances. There's something flat out wrong with this kid's head. And, all he can say is, "I'm good. I'm good."No, Dez...you're anything but good.

Love the hyperbole. Beat up mom yet she had no marks when examined by police. Im not sure if your aware of this but alot of young black males wear their pants low but lets condeme Dez like he has committed major crime. I already addressed the money thing is it really that different than the million of americans who lost their homes to foreclosures?

She had swollen wrists and her clothes were torn.And yes, buying a ton of jewelry and then not paying for it is quite a bit different than losing one's home to foreclosure.

 

[cobalt_27]

And Simm, it's not his thuggish dress that bothered the cops it was he's walking around with his underwear hanging out. If he wants to wear a sag, he should put on some basketball shorts under his jeans. A sag looks to me like the person is advertising that they're open for some rear deliveries.

You have obviously have never been to any Dallas mall, they have some of the strictest dress codes in the entire country. Its no surprise that Dez was stopped by security, if it was any other mall he likely shops without incident.

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

 

[cobalt_27]

I truly feel bad for Dez Bryant. Guy grows up under the worst circumstances and the worst thing prior to this was spending money he didnt have and wearing his pants low. The horror, white america scared by his thug appearance and swagger. I remember when I was in my early 20's blowing my entire paycheck and running up credit cards just being irresponsible. Now imagine I was given millions.

Zero doubt in my mind he is trying to patch up things with his mother trying to move forward and leave the past in the past and all she can see is dollar signs. I can only imagine the responses you would recieve in the FFA if you posted im highly successful and my mom is a felon crackhead should I try to mend this relationship? Would be a great blend of schthick mixed with hell NO.

So, let's review...Became ineligible to play in NCAA for failing to disclose his ties to Prime Time.

Took a million dollars of jewelry.

Failed to pay for a million dollars worth of said jewelry. Got sued.

Dropped trow at a mall.

And got into confrontation with security over said dropped trow.

Detained by police for nightclub altercation.

Beat up mom.

And your position is that he's just fallen into a lot of bad luck, obviously. A lot of kids grow up in hopeless circumstances, some much worse than Dez, and they come through. So, I'm not buying this sob story about his circumstances. There's something flat out wrong with this kid's head. And, all he can say is, "I'm good. I'm good."

No, Dez...you're anything but good.

Love the hyperbole. Beat up mom yet she had no marks when examined by police. Im not sure if your aware of this but alot of young black males wear their pants low but lets condeme Dez like he has committed major crime. I already addressed the money thing is it really that different than the million of americans who lost their homes to foreclosures?

She had swollen wrists and her clothes were torn.And yes, buying a ton of jewelry and then not paying for it is quite a bit different than losing one's home to foreclosure.

He bought a million dollars worth of jewelry. Forget the fact that he...whoops...just forgot to pay for it or whatever stupid excuse he had. He bought a million dollars worth of jewelry. He's a ####### headcase. Who does that?

 

[simmonjm]

She had swollen wrists and her clothes were torn.And yes, buying a ton of jewelry and then not paying for it is quite a bit different than losing one's home to foreclosure.

Borat so my understanding based on an earlier posting by Bankerguy is that when she initially made the report their were no noted injuries and the ripped clothes and swollen wrists were from 2 days later. Is this wrong? Because if this is the case I would tend to believe that she had a friend or self inflicted those wounds and torn clothes. Also when Dez heard he turned himself in not exactly the mastermind criminal people are making him out to be.

 

[simmonjm]

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

As No. 16 says you wouldnt understand its a culture thing. What part of his background taught him to respect authority? Im certainly not a Dez apologist but when you look around the NFL there are far worse guys who dont get the type of criticism that Dez does. David Diehl for example not a peep about his recent DUI. Yet were on page 3 discussing whether or not Dez may have grabbed his mother a felon and crackfiend.

 

[simmonjm]

He bought a million dollars worth of jewelry. Forget the fact that he...whoops...just forgot to pay for it or whatever stupid excuse he had. He bought a million dollars worth of jewelry. He's a ####### headcase. Who does that?

Tell you what lets run a fun social experiment: lets bring a child soldier from Africa (messed up childhood similiar to Dez) and give him lots of money and fame and see if he starts investing in stocks and his retirement or opts for the fancy car, jewelry etc. Then lets all be outraged if he makes poor choices that have no effect on anyone outside of the person who approved his loan.

 

[Raider Nation]

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.

Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

As No. 16 says you wouldnt understand its a culture thing. What part of his background taught him to respect authority? Im certainly not a Dez apologist but when you look around the NFL there are far worse guys who dont get the type of criticism that Dez does. David Diehl for example not a peep about his recent DUI. Yet were on page 3 discussing whether or not Dez may have grabbed his mother a felon and crackfiend.

Any differences between Dez and Diehl?http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/real_diehl_5EZ7LeGoYpOuKBuWv6OMdJ

 

[Borat]

She had swollen wrists and her clothes were torn.And yes, buying a ton of jewelry and then not paying for it is quite a bit different than losing one's home to foreclosure.

Borat so my understanding based on an earlier posting by Bankerguy is that when she initially made the report their were no noted injuries and the ripped clothes and swollen wrists were from 2 days later. Is this wrong? Because if this is the case I would tend to believe that she had a friend or self inflicted those wounds and torn clothes. Also when Dez heard he turned himself in not exactly the mastermind criminal people are making him out to be.

So her wrists were still swollen two days later, but that's okay? If you were going to fake a domestic violence injury, would you really go for the wrists?Also, anyone in this thread can say whatever they want about Bryant, but I don't think anyone is trying to argue that he is a "mastermind criminal," or really, any kind of mastermind at all. I think even the Bryant defenders would agree that this guy is kind of a moron.

 

[Borat]

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.

Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

As No. 16 says you wouldnt understand its a culture thing. What part of his background taught him to respect authority? Im certainly not a Dez apologist but when you look around the NFL there are far worse guys who dont get the type of criticism that Dez does. David Diehl for example not a peep about his recent DUI. Yet were on page 3 discussing whether or not Dez may have grabbed his mother a felon and crackfiend.

Sure you're not.

 

[Freedonia]

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

As No. 16 says you wouldnt understand its a culture thing. What part of his background taught him to respect authority? Im certainly not a Dez apologist but when you look around the NFL there are far worse guys who dont get the type of criticism that Dez does. David Diehl for example not a peep about his recent DUI. Yet were on page 3 discussing whether or not Dez may have grabbed his mother a felon and crackfiend.

It is a fantasy football web site and David Diehl is an offensive lineman.

 

[sspunisher]

The fact that his mother reported the incident to the authorities says a lot about what kind of a mother she is, which is obviously a direct result of the person he's become. Most people wouldn't hit their mother, and I'm willing to bet most mothers wouldn't report their sons to the authorities even if their son really did strike them.

He's obviously got demons growing up, but we all know where those demons came from. You can avoid liquor and the nightclubs but it's kind of hard to avoid your head case mom. Obviously he might have to.

 

[dickey moe]

Would be a great blend of schthick

 

[Manster]

We can all make our assessments here. They really mean nothing. He needs to man up and break the cycle.

 

[Borat]

Most people wouldn't hit their mother, and I'm willing to bet most mothers wouldn't report their sons to the authorities even if their son really did strike them.

Maybe you could be the next head coach at Penn State.

 

[cobalt_27]

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

As No. 16 says you wouldnt understand its a culture thing. What part of his background taught him to respect authority? Im certainly not a Dez apologist but when you look around the NFL there are far worse guys who dont get the type of criticism that Dez does. David Diehl for example not a peep about his recent DUI. Yet were on page 3 discussing whether or not Dez may have grabbed his mother a felon and crackfiend.

To what culture are you referring?Are you suggesting that, because his cultural background (whatever you mean by that) didn't teach him to respect others (let alone authority), that he should do as he pleases? I don't quite understand where you're going with this. And, you're going so far out of your way to crucify the mom here...by logical extension, shouldn't you extend her the same latitude you're giving to Dez?

 

[sspunisher]

Most people wouldn't hit their mother, and I'm willing to bet most mothers wouldn't report their sons to the authorities even if their son really did strike them.

Maybe you could be the next head coach at Penn State.

Grow the F up kid, you've been throwing your smartass remarks all over this thread...enough already. It's not completely unreasonable to assume that most mothers would go to great, even unreasonable lengths to protect their children.

 

[Borat]

Most people wouldn't hit their mother, and I'm willing to bet most mothers wouldn't report their sons to the authorities even if their son really did strike them.

Maybe you could be the next head coach at Penn State.

Grow the F up kid, you've been throwing your smartass remarks all over this thread...enough already. It's not completely unreasonable to assume that some mothers go to great, even unreasonable lengths to protect their children.

You're defending a guy who is alleged to have beaten his mom.

 

[sspunisher]

You're defending a guy who is alleged to have beaten his mom.

Or I'm acknowledging the fact that their whole family might be ####ed up.

 

[Borat]

You're defending a guy who is alleged to have beaten his mom.

Or I'm acknowledging the fact that their whole family might be ####ed up.

No one disputes this.

 

[whatadai]

And Simm, it's not his thuggish dress that bothered the cops it was he's walking around with his underwear hanging out. If he wants to wear a sag, he should put on some basketball shorts under his jeans. A sag looks to me like the person is advertising that they're open for some rear deliveries.

You have obviously have never been to any Dallas mall, they have some of the strictest dress codes in the entire country. Its no surprise that Dez was stopped by security, if it was any other mall he likely shops without incident.

Right, but when security comes over to tell you to hike up your drawers, the appropriate thing to do is apologize, cinch the belt, and carry on. And, there are a lot of other variations to that response if you don't want to be all goody-two-shoes about it. But, what Dez did is escalate matters well beyond what was necessary.Anyway, I know you're a Dez apologist here, so I'll let you continue with the contortionist act to explain away everything that he's done. All in defense of the Star, I get it.

Dez's pants weren't sagging. His friend's pants were and when they were being escorted out of the mall the off duty cop decided to push Dez. Apparently, Texas has a lot of off duty cops that like to start physical altercations with big black men and then call foul.

 

[KellysHeroes]

anyone else here have drug addicted parents?

 

[netnalp]

The kid comes from a jaded background, I don't understand why people's expectations aren't a little more tempered. His mom was arrested for selling Crack when he was 8. his dad was 40, and his mom 15 when he was born. Get the picture? I don't fault him for having some personality issues. If he still does when he is 30 OK, but he still has a lot of stuff from his past to deal with. In my opinion, he is a a candidate for a Lifetime Movie or something. Not many people with his background make it, and for that I give him credit. I give him the benifit of the doubt in this situation. This isn't like not paying debts, or getting in an altercation with Lil' Wayne's entourage. His mother has been charged with providing false information before, who is to say she is telling the truth now. My opinion about him might change if it comes out that he beats women, but I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt over his mother.

GP. I can't imagine living Dez's life. To know your dad is a pimp/pedofile and your mom is a drug addict/ dope dealer has to be devastating. The age difference between Dez and his mom and Dez's mom and father is interesting. Maybe she's the pimp now. A mess, I wish the best for him.

I think Patrick Willis would consider Dez a wuss.Patrick Willis past

Don't see how that's worse than Dez...he was never saved from the ghetto. I wouldn't be surprised if he was beaten by his crackwhore mom a lot or whoever took care of him while she was in jail.

I think the main point is, Willis was given a lousy hand and chose not to make things worse. Dez seems to be oblivious to how his actions are contributing to the problems in his life.

Not so sure it's Dez's fault that he's making things worse. If you look at it...guys like PDub, Jimmy Graham, Oher, etc. had people take them in and basically became family. Dez's crackwhore mom and step siblings are the only family he's known. I don't want to get into a nature vs. nurture argument on a fantasy football site, so just saying, considering the things he's been through and the fact that you can't place a value on who's been through worse ####, it's hard to blame Dez for...1. Still acting like he's from the ghetto.

2. Not leaving his only family.

He choosing it. If he wanted to change he could. It would be hard but it can be done.

 

[Multiple Scores]

Anyone here think simmonjm is a Dez owner?

 

[BigTex]

anyone else here have drug addicted parents?

No, but I was very close to someone who has a mother who's has had issues with Meth. She destroys everyone in her path, just a horrible thing to experience. Unless you've seen it personally, you'd probably couldn't completely grasp the lifestyle.Tex

 

[simmonjm]

To what culture are you referring?Are you suggesting that, because his cultural background (whatever you mean by that) didn't teach him to respect others (let alone authority), that he should do as he pleases? I don't quite understand where you're going with this. And, you're going so far out of your way to crucify the mom here...by logical extension, shouldn't you extend her the same latitude you're giving to Dez?

Being a young black male from the projects. Its a vicious cycle and behavior is often repeated through generations i think its safe to assume Dez's mother came from a broken home as well. I realize its easy for most on this board who have had stable childhoods to sit back and pass judgements calling him dumb,and other derogoratoy names or stretch the truth about this incident. Id rather try to take a look at the whole picture.

 

[netnalp]

To what culture are you referring?Are you suggesting that, because his cultural background (whatever you mean by that) didn't teach him to respect others (let alone authority), that he should do as he pleases? I don't quite understand where you're going with this. And, you're going so far out of your way to crucify the mom here...by logical extension, shouldn't you extend her the same latitude you're giving to Dez?

Being a young black male from the projects. Its a vicious cycle and behavior is often repeated through generations i think its safe to assume Dez's mother came from a broken home as well. I realize its easy for most on this board who have had stable childhoods to sit back and pass judgements calling him dumb,and other derogoratoy names or stretch the truth about this incident. Id rather try to take a look at the whole picture.

There are countless examples of people that have come from a difficult upbringing and overcome those challenges to be an admirable person. Dez was dealt a crappy hand, there's no denying that. He could keep screwing up and blame it on his upbringing and the environment that he was in. And many people wouldn't blame him, they'd make excuses for him. They'll let him play the victim and blame it all on everything but himself. If he matures, he'll come to the realization that he's responsible for his actions. He's the one allowing his mother to get to him. He's the one choosing to react violently, rather than walk away. He's the one choosing to react over emotionally, like a child. It is common for an immature person to take credit for all the good things that happen to them and all the bad things are due to bad luck or someone else is to blame. Dez isn't to blame for his childhood but he is to blame for his adult behavior.

 

[Bankerguy]

She had swollen wrists and her clothes were torn.And yes, buying a ton of jewelry and then not paying for it is quite a bit different than losing one's home to foreclosure.

Borat so my understanding based on an earlier posting by Bankerguy is that when she initially made the report their were no noted injuries and the ripped clothes and swollen wrists were from 2 days later. Is this wrong? Because if this is the case I would tend to believe that she had a friend or self inflicted those wounds and torn clothes. Also when Dez heard he turned himself in not exactly the mastermind criminal people are making him out to be.

Again....not defending Dez, but more from a things that make you go hmmmmmm.Report filed Saturday, no injuries "reported or that were visible" at the time. Otherwise.... away Dez goes in cuffs right then.Sunday comes and goes with nothing further.Then, Monday rolls around and now there are visable injuries to the alledged attack. Dez surrenders as the police are forced to press charges as there was now a complaint and some visible injury. At present I have doubt this will be pursued by the D.A.

 

[Bankerguy]

The only witness-the brother in law, tweeted last night that Dez indeed did NOT hit his Mom.deon hatton

‏@DeonHatton

For who Eva listen to tha media my brother didnt hit our mother @DezBryant