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Why would I assume it?????? They lived in Texas. She MOVED to Oklahoma after Dez got his scholarship there. Why in the hell would she have to move to Oklahoma? The whole situation is pretty obvious I'd say. Her baby boy was on national television, she realized the financial opportunities that might come so she wanted to be closer to him. And why is she living in Texas again? Oh that's right, Dez moved back to Texas. I think we can call that "following."
Do you have to deal with them?
Before I taught, yes. Now I just deal with potheads.
I dragged my brother out of crack houses for the better part of a decade. It's not a pretty environment, and crime shows don't do it justice.
Agreed
Would it make a difference? I assume you're insinuating there's an element of ignorance about this that is clouding folks' perspectives on this.FWIW, I have in a treatment context.
Yes. It makes an enormous difference.Seeing that you have worked with these individuals in a treatment context (as have I), you should understand without me having to make the argument that individuals under the influence, or who have a chemical dependency to an element such as crack, run a near 100% track record on deflecting fault to other individuals.Who knows, this could be one of the few cases in which Momma Dez is telling the truth. but if I was a betting man, and I am, there is a ton more to this story than Dez laying a stiff backhand down (or pulling her hair, throwing a hat etc etc)
Those weren't the only influences in his life. Dez has been taught right from wrong. He's had people take an interest in him and try to mentor him. He chooses not to follow their advice. If anything, his athletic talent has allowed him access to positive role models that the average kid from the hood might not get. There are plenty of people who come from similar backgrounds that make it. What separates them from the ones that don't? There are plenty of people who come from more stable backgrounds and don't make it. What separates them from the ones that do?At some point we all choose our path.
I know she's a crackwhore, so we aren't dealing with the most rational of people...But you think she waits 2 days and fabricates signs of trauma to frame her millionaire son, and she comes up with bruised wrists as the injury to fake? That's pretty weak, even at a crackwhore intelligence baseline.So it wouldn't surprise me at all if those are legit injuries caused during the incident but that's just all she can show. And that doesn't prove whether or not Bryant assaulted her or merely restrained her to protect himself. But since some guys don't hit, but they hold and humiliate, you can't just assume wrist bruises equal self-defense. It's also possible the officer's report reflects the officer's mindset at the time as much as it does what was actually going on. There are lots of things told to officers and seen/heard by officers that never make it into reports. It isn't that he's being intentionally or maliciously dishonest, it's just that if he's shaking his head and saying "here we go again" when the cruiser rolls up in front of a house, he may listen and look with a certain preconceived bias and that bias will also be reflected in what's included (or omitted) from the report.So it's possible that the "known crackwhore effect" actually affected whether the officer(s) believed what she had to say that night and what they noted and recorded in the report.
Extremely plausible.I should note, I have no vested interest in Dez. Don't like him, don't own him.
Your point is well taken. But there is also an element of pressure and defensiveness to that dishonesty, is there not? They get in trouble, so they deflect by lying rather than fess up and accept consequences. I have to imagine that there is an element of that in play in the context of treatment, particularly involuntary treatment.In this case, it doesn't look like she's acting in her defense. She's the one who called the police and she's the one who wants charges pressed. There isn't really any defensiveness involved.That isn't to say she can't be lying. She could be trying to shake him down and if he has told her she's cut off, she might see this as her only way to cash out.But to me it's even money on who's lying. Both of their life narratives so far indicate that they are capable of doing what they are accused of doing.
Deflection to addicts knows no boundaries. The element of "being caught" or "being in trouble" is not necessary in the equation. What is an extremely overlooked issue, is addicts' need for acceptance and attention. They are human, after-all. What commonly happens, is this need for belonging is so strong, yet so distorted by chemicals, that their actions to get the attention they want ends up hurting the person they want it from.
I see where you're going, and it's a fair point. And, the details of this incident are unclear. That said, I'm confused by the tone of the excuses pulled out at all stops in support of Dez. He has made a variety of careless and reckless decisions in already just a short lifespan in the NFL, preceded by very poor judgment and lack of disclosure while in college that negatively affected him and harmed his team. With any other player, I'd certainly be quicker to dismiss the accusations of a convicted crack user and dealer. In Dez's case, it's greater cause for concern because his prior history is not altogether inconsistent with something like this happening. If it were Ray Rice or Larry Fitzgerald, I'd be saying, "wait a minute, no way.". But, with Dez, it's not out of the realm.If he did nothing, so be it. But, what is frustrating is the extent to which folks minimize his transgressions, let alone this one...assuming the accusations are true. So, the focus on the mom is only one that's relevant in speculating who's telling the truth or not...it is not relevant in judging whether the crime here is justified or forgivable. Under no circumstances is it forgivable at all.
So Dez should go to prison because he wears his pants low, didnt pay on a debt, and had a dispute with his mother who has a history of drug problems? I love how you mention Michael Vick and Dez in the same breath one ran a criminal enterprise spanning state lines committing numerous felonies while the other faces a court decision regarding a debt.
Dude. Read all the posts pertaining to your outrage before casting aspirations. I merely elaborated on the post of 1:59 PM today and did not originally bring up Vick. What I wrote is what Vick has said about HIS experience. There is no need in going into the Vick thing here, but it has been said over the years by posters that hitting or injuring a human being seems more serious than killing animals.If you are not familiar with the famous movie "Scared Straight", I suggest you look it up to find the implications....
Believe what you wish.Sorry, I don't believe anyone actually lives by that standard. They just use it when it's convenient to help cope with their cognitive dissonance.I was taught years ago, if it doesn't effect/affect your family, money, or lively-hood don't let it effect/affect you.Go Cowboys!!!
Wait. Where's all your sob story for Vick? I thought he had it rough growing up, too. I thought your premise is that you can't fault anyone for anything they do so long as they meet the standard of struggling in childhood.
I believe Joe Paterno had a similar philosophy.Believe what you wish.Sorry, I don't believe anyone actually lives by that standard. They just use it when it's convenient to help cope with their cognitive dissonance.I was taught years ago, if it doesn't effect/affect your family, money, or lively-hood don't let it effect/affect you.Go Cowboys!!!
You misunderstand me, Im okay with minor stuff i.e. sagging pants, defaulted loan, and attribute this type of behavior as a product of their environment. Desean Jackson just put up a large portion of his new contract to fund a record label so when that inevitably fails I wont disparage the man. I clearly stated that when things escalate to DUI, guns, etc I can no longer defend the man. Im pretty sure you can figure out what category Vick fits in.
A millionaire's lawyer VS a KNOWN crack head felon.It's not that difficult to see which way this is gonna go, even if Dez truly is at fault.
Mostly it's psychological resilience. Which you're either born with, or not. i.e. a lot more dumb luck than people like to admit.
Dez assaulted his Mom. Has Britt topped that?
I'd say beating your mom shows far more lack of character then drunk driving.
Cumulatively, Britt wins the awful person award. DUI pulling up to an Army base is so offensively stupid, I really can't compute how that stacks up with beating up your mom.I suppose the latter is worse by a good margin, but I still reserve some doubt as to what actually happened. Until then, Britt wins by default.
They're both kind of idiots. I mean it's crazy. When's the last time you heard about Larry Fitzgerald getting into trouble? It's so incredibly easy NOT to get arrested, and yet these guys simply can't stop. I want neither on my team, I don't care if I miss out on a break-out season.
2008. His baby-mama won an order of protection against him after he allegedly pushed her around during a domestic dispute. Don't think he was actually ever arrested though. Not quite on the same level as slapping your mom in the face, but if Fitz can get negative press, anyone can.
Well, he's been arrested like 8 times since '09! How do you even do that? He is the definition of knucklehead. This is a guy who should not be making a lot of money to play a game.Dez's situation is very concerning. It's hard to predict how kids from broken homes will adjust. Some do better than others. My guess is he's an angry young man, and rightfully so. His parents are losers. This is a complex issue that Dez will have to deal with his entire life. Life is tough, get a helmet! oh wait, he already has one. Maybe he should spend his money on therapy sessions instead of bling. If I were the therapist, I think I'd try to get the money up front.
I know this is a fantasy football board, but you do know nothing none of us actually play football right?'steelwind said:
Me too.
Rumor I heard is it was a different "Dez Bryant"
Yup, epic fail on Omars part to not do his research. No use following this misleading guy anymore.
He said he was working to confirm FWIW
Omar is a
Dude all he had to do was make calls or just check the dang website above. LMFAO dont make excuses for a guy paid to be on top of stuff, not be just an average dude getting out reported on a message forum.
Just sayin people make mistakes and he later said he was wrong. One guy. One mistake. Only on a message board will he now be slaughtered for it.
Omar does this sort of thing a lot. The worst NFL beat writer/journalist type I've seen on twitter.
No. He is a symptom of the larger problem with the media, especially the sports media. Especially in the age of twitter.We have to kill guys for these things, or long term there are no consequences for shoddy journalists trying to be the first without fact checking. It's awful. Why give him a pass?
Yes and WE are going to make the difference and hold him rsponsoble even though he's aware and apologized.
