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Dez Bryant Possibly Out for the Season (1 Viewer)

'JPeso said:
'Dentist said:
'Dez said:
The 1 person I could not afford to lose have him in 18 leagues.
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that's just not smart.you have to diversify for this very reason.

Even if you said you had him on 14 of your 18 teams that would be too heavy of an allotment of Dez. The only free lunch in this game is diversification.
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In what world is 78% ownership of Dez more diversified than 36%?
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didn't read the 50 leagues commentmy bad, i take it back.

I didn't think that seemed real

 
Archer reports that the "best case scenario" is Bryant will be able to play through the injury with his "fingers taped for the rest of the season," delaying surgery until the offseason. In a worst case scenario, Bryant would be done for the year immediately if the hand specialist determines he could do further damage to the finger, affecting his football-playing future.

 
why not, i have McCoy, Murry, Big Ben, Nicks and now Bryant. Hopefully Austin can take advantage of this opportunity. Huge bump to Witten IMO.

 
'GordonGekko said:
'Dentist said:
oh well, sometime in the future I'll have a 7-6 record and get hot for 3 weeks in the playoffs... if you play long enough i guess the #### evens out
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Actually I find it doesn't. If you are a good drafter, sounds like you are typically garner strong drafts, that tends to reward teams and owners in deep leagues. Meaning many starting slots and many slots period, including IDP. Given injuries and byes, there will always naturally be room for new additions like Shorts and DX and Moreno that you would typically bypass in a standard rostered 12 team PPR league. Another drawback of being a good drafter in general is there tends to be attachment to your guys you drafted whereas poor drafters can't wait to dump their poor selections for whats out on the wire. In deep leagues as well, many people draft poorly in the back third of the entire draft. Most people simply don't go that far into the food chain to ID a Vick Ballard or a Chris Ivory in the preseason. This is where your superior drafting skill set and general knowledge base turn into assets for you. I find good drafters tend to operate well under scarcity, many many many fantasy owner do not. They give up. They get frustrated. They aren't looking for a constant edge. The benefit of IDP is Bye weeks and injuries cause the middle of the season to turn into a roster churn for everyone. That's a lot of chaos and again, the excellent drafter will see an advantage. Every bye week becomes a reformed mini draft. The "standard league" is that for a reason. It's an entry level league designed for the casual player. And there's nothing wrong with that. But it tends to be more forgiving to poor drafters for a reason. Find more leagues that suit your playing style and give you the flexibility to use all of your skills, not just drafting but general roster management. People also have to ask themselves if they want dynasty or not as a method. I find people who generally dislike the general public will actually thrive more in random redrafts than in dynasty settings.
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Last night, 10 ET: Dallas Morning News

"There remains concern that Dez Bryant will miss the remainder of the season. But that decision has yet to be made.

Bryant was examined by Dr. Bo Frederick, an orthopedic hand surgeon, Monday afternoon. X-rays revealed a fractured left index finger. Late Monday evening, club officials said no definitive decision had been made about whether or not the receiver would require season-ending surgery.

Bryant has emerged as the Cowboys most dangerous receiver over these last five weeks, a stretch in which the team has compiled a 4-1 record. His loss would deliver a serious blow to the team’s already slim playoff chances. That’s why the club, and Bryant, want to continue to explore if there is any way he can finish the season and delay the surgery."

 
I wonder how much the real life pressure from Jerry Jones comes into play with this. Obviously, if this was a torn this or that, its easy but when its a cracked finger, I wonder if Jones leans on Dez to play and try to get this team into the playoffs.

Really interesting situation here because this could be the kind of scenario that WE never hear all the dirt on that could shape this team in the future. Let's say Bryant tapes that finer up and plays a big roll in getting the Cowboys into the post-season. That will go a long way with Jones. But let's say Dez make the call to shut it down (either literally or figuratively) and the Cowboys narrowly miss the playoffs. I wonder if that would lead to the cowboys not supporting Dez as much. ALL THIS is just wild conjecture, not really relating to fantasy but its a real-life "could happen" kind of thing. I think there is a lot of pressure on Dez to play through.

 
'Shutout said:
I wonder how much the real life pressure from Jerry Jones comes into play with this. Obviously, if this was a torn this or that, its easy but when its a cracked finger, I wonder if Jones leans on Dez to play and try to get this team into the playoffs. Really interesting situation here because this could be the kind of scenario that WE never hear all the dirt on that could shape this team in the future. Let's say Bryant tapes that finer up and plays a big roll in getting the Cowboys into the post-season. That will go a long way with Jones. But let's say Dez make the call to shut it down (either literally or figuratively) and the Cowboys narrowly miss the playoffs. I wonder if that would lead to the cowboys not supporting Dez as much. ALL THIS is just wild conjecture, not really relating to fantasy but its a real-life "could happen" kind of thing. I think there is a lot of pressure on Dez to play through.
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Yeah but you are at a destinct disadvantage if you have a fracture finger and you are trying to catch a ball that is zinged in there at a higher rate of velocity. But I guess I am looking at from a fantasy persepective where as Double J thinks if he can play through the pain then he should play. I would thing this would hurt Dez's fantasy outlook any way you slice it.
 
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'Shutout said:
I wonder how much the real life pressure from Jerry Jones comes into play with this. Obviously, if this was a torn this or that, its easy but when its a cracked finger, I wonder if Jones leans on Dez to play and try to get this team into the playoffs. Really interesting situation here because this could be the kind of scenario that WE never hear all the dirt on that could shape this team in the future. Let's say Bryant tapes that finer up and plays a big roll in getting the Cowboys into the post-season. That will go a long way with Jones. But let's say Dez make the call to shut it down (either literally or figuratively) and the Cowboys narrowly miss the playoffs. I wonder if that would lead to the cowboys not supporting Dez as much. ALL THIS is just wild conjecture, not really relating to fantasy but its a real-life "could happen" kind of thing. I think there is a lot of pressure on Dez to play through.
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Jerry is crazy, but I don't think he's this crazy. He knows what he has in Dez and wouldn't want him to risk his long-term health.
 
didnt love the matchup with Pitt anyway....this makes it worse - as long as you have a solid alternative I can't see starting Dez this week even if he plays.

 
'FDC said:
'Concept Coop said:
Jerry is crazy, but I don't think he's this crazy. He knows what he has in Dez and wouldn't want him to risk his long-term health.
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Thing is though, there have been rumblings that Jerry is planning on moving on from him longterm
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Where are you hearing this? Based on the little bits of info here and there that I read, it sounds like Jerry is constantly talking about how special this kid is as a player, as well as suggesting he is a good person. From a football perspective, unless the 2009 Miles Austin comes back, it would set the offense back a great deal.
 
^Not necessarily misdirection. Looks like surgery was recommended. But considering its just a finger and not really career or life threatening its ultimately up to him.

 
Jones is leaning on Bryant hard to play, don't even kid yourself. If Dez wants to be part of the Cowboys he plays. Jones is leaving it up to Bryant, that's code for you'll play if know what is good for you. Dez will play.

 
'Concept Coop said:
'HULLOBUDMAN said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/11/jerry-jones-dez-bryant-will-make-ultimate-decision-on-playing/
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Jerry putting it on the player is laughable. What an awful, awful, awful GM.
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This is the kind of thing I was alluding to. Normally I would agree 100% with your above post about not jeopardizing the long-term health of Dez but I tell you, lately, when they show Jerry during games, you can see the "wild" in his eyes. he is literally dying to get this team in the playoffs again. maybe its because he senses his own mortality. maybe its because the cowboys have had a LONG drought. Maybe its because he is just that competitive or maybe its because he senses the division rising up, having success, and the window closing on his own team. All those would be good reasons, each standing alone, but I think they are all working together.Which leads me back to the link above. Common sense would say what a lot of teams say regarding "we are going to do the right thing, even if it means protecting the player from himself." But already, we see a ***** in logic here with Jerry Jones kinda putting it out there that he could let the player determine what he wants to do (which is an obvious punting of the ball and the pressure squarely into Dez's court). We already know that Dez has issues in social situations. I hope this one goes (regardless of what is reported or said openly) the way of the docs making the correct call.
 
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
 
Both Dez, and Jason Garrett at his presser yesterday, have stated that its up to the doctors to make the call on whether to shut him down for the year. I seriously doubt both those guys are lying about how the decision is being made.

 
'Shutout said:
'Concept Coop said:
'HULLOBUDMAN said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/11/jerry-jones-dez-bryant-will-make-ultimate-decision-on-playing/
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Jerry putting it on the player is laughable. What an awful, awful, awful GM.
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This is the kind of thing I was alluding to. Normally I would agree 100% with your above post about not jeopardizing the long-term health of Dez but I tell you, lately, when they show Jerry during games, you can see the "wild" in his eyes. he is literally dying to get this team in the playoffs again. maybe its because he senses his own mortality. maybe its because the cowboys have had a LONG drought. Maybe its because he is just that competitive or maybe its because he senses the division rising up, having success, and the window closing on his own team. All those would be good reasons, each standing alone, but I think they are all working together.Which leads me back to the link above. Common sense would say what a lot of teams say regarding "we are going to do the right thing, even if it means protecting the player from himself." But already, we see a ***** in logic here with Jerry Jones kinda putting it out there that he could let the player determine what he wants to do (which is an obvious punting of the ball and the pressure squarely into Dez's court). We already know that Dez has issues in social situations. I hope this one goes (regardless of what is reported or said openly) the way of the docs making the correct call.
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AT THE VERY LEAST, don't put it out there. Protect your player; say "we'll make that call as a group; Dez, myself, Garret, and the doctors." Even if you're putting it on Dez, don't put pressure on him.Dez Bryant was broke last season. He has 1-2 contracts left in the NFL, 1-2 opportunities to secure his life financially post-football. I am not a doctor obviously, but if he is putting that in jeopardy for team that has 0 chance to win a Superbowl...
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
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Yeah, its a late game. Dez had been so hot that I'd say a lot of people probably would have just left him in regardless, if it was known he would play but there ahve a been a good number of people posting that they really didn't like the matchup to start with and may have left him on the bench. so maybe this is one of those things that takes the decision away for those who were on the fence (if Dez is ruled out).
 
'FDC said:
'Concept Coop said:
'HULLOBUDMAN said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/11/jerry-jones-dez-bryant-will-make-ultimate-decision-on-playing/
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Jerry putting it on the player is laughable. What an awful, awful, awful GM.
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Eh, its a finger
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And if Bryant was a CB, Safety, LB, I'd get it. But permanent stiffness in a finger sounds like a potential hindering factor for a WR.It is very possible that I am not understanding the potential long-term damage; maybe it won't do much.
 
'Shutout said:
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
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Yeah, its a late game. Dez had been so hot that I'd say a lot of people probably would have just left him in regardless, if it was known he would play but there ahve a been a good number of people posting that they really didn't like the matchup to start with and may have left him on the bench. so maybe this is one of those things that takes the decision away for those who were on the fence (if Dez is ruled out).
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I'd be starting him this week if he was healthy, matchup be damned. Oh well, hoping some solid news comes sooner rather than later.
 
Permanent finger stiffness > lack of 2nd contract

jussayin...

 
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'The General said:
'cobalt_27 said:
'The General said:
What do people think this does to Romo?
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Um... Really?
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I don't get this. Is this a weird question to ask on a Fantasy Football board?If Dez is out for rest of the season what do people who follow this team much closer than I do think this does to Romo's stats this weekend against Pittsburgh.
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It hurts him, greatly. Dez is the only NFL level WR1 on the roster right now. Austin is not the same guy he has been and is only playing like a solid NFL WR2 right now. Teams had to pay so much attention on Dez; if they don't have to do that, they can redirect it elsewhere. Whether that is double teaming Austin, or sending extra guys on blitzes, or stacking the box. It REALLY hurts Romo from a fantasy aspect, and the Cowboys in general.
 
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'The General said:
'cobalt_27 said:
'The General said:
What do people think this does to Romo?
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Um... Really?
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I don't get this. Is this a weird question to ask on a Fantasy Football board?If Dez is out for rest of the season what do people who follow this team much closer than I do think this does to Romo's stats this weekend against Pittsburgh.
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Agree, Romo's my starting Qb in two semi-finals games, I have no prob asking this question - though maybe the post was trying to state that it's obvious it hurts Romo a lot? Dunno.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
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With this type of injury you would think that they would say he's good to go or end his season and not go the GTD route.
 
'The General said:
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
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With this type of injury you would think that they would say he's good to go or end his season and not go the GTD route.
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I would think so too. I think it would be at a point they either say "he can play with this" or "he can't play with this". I don't think its a degree of injury or tollerance type thing. With that being said, my biggest concern if I start Dez is that he catches a laser during the course of the game and hurts it further and leaves the game.
 
'Ignoratio Elenchi said:
'Dentist said:
So in my bye week i lose RG3 (most likely) and my best WR (most likely)
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Same boat here, and I lost Gronk a couple weeks ago. This game is a #####.

Looks like Dallas is a late game on Sunday. Hope this doesn't turn into a game-time decision as that could limit our options as Dez owners.
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Agreed. If I knew he was out Saturday, I can start TY Hilton. If I have to wait until GTD, I luckily have DMoore in a late time slot.Still, I'd much rather use Dez, bummed finger or not.

 
'Ace zero1 said:
Are you guys still starting him even with the injury if he does play?
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I've got Danario Alexander on my bench...I think at least for this week, I'll likely roll with him over Dez vs. the stingy Pittsburgh Def.Without Danario in the equation, I'd totally start Dez.
 
'Ace zero1 said:
Are you guys still starting him even with the injury if he does play?
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All depends who you have on the bench. If he goes I'll be starting him over K. Moreno and BJGE I think.He caught the TD last week after he injured it I believe, and Pittsburgh just got lit up at home by Rivers.I'll probably change my mind 10 times though.
 
'Ace zero1 said:
Are you guys still starting him even with the injury if he does play?
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It's either him or Chris Givens (or whatever else I can find on the waiver wire). I'll make that decision later this week I guess.
 
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