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Dez Bryant Possibly Out for the Season (1 Viewer)

What's wrong with you guys? Who bickers on fantasy football forums? Look at yourselves in the mirror here guys, grow up. Can anyone give any insight to Dez right now? Anyone talk to his doc after the appt? lol

 
'cobalt_27 said:
'thehornet said:
'Billy Bats said:
'Wadsworth said:
'death of the cool said:
one would think dez's agent would jump in here. this is a crummy move by a classless owner. dez is all heart and he is being manipulated.
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Oh good god.....Has anyone looked at the hands of most former WR's in the NFL. Go take a look at Torry Holt's hands...the have crooked fingers all over. You act like he could die on the field or his career could be over. That's not the case. At worse his finger may never go back straight, well welcome to reality to many people that have caught passes playing football.
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I broke a finger catching a football. I thought I had just jammed it and while it hurt like crazy I taped it up and kept playing. Continuing to play caused the break to spider fracture and I had to get pins put in to secure the bone. I can move the finger now but with significantly limited range of motion. It does not really effect me in my normal life, but if I was an NFL WR I can see how it would limit my production.This is not a "tough-guy" type of decision. If playing could do permanent damage that could limit his ability in the future then he should give serious consideration to having the surgery now. Being tough is cool, but not at the cost of being stupid.
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Limit his ability to do what?? Pick his nose? My god it's a finger, how horrible will his life be with limited use of one finger? Tape it up and get out there and get your team in the playoffs.
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no polite way to say it....you're dumb.
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Perhaps. Perhaps not. Seems strange for you to comment on this, though. Seems to be a pretty universal sentiment about you.
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true. very good point.
 
'donkshow said:
'Clifford said:
'Neo said:
Sorry there is no way I'm benching Dez because of 1 finger if he plays. Not concerned one bit.
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This. I can live with playing him and losing because he stunk. But I can't live with losing because I left him on my bench and he blew up.
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Exactly. Considering who my replacements are (Hilton or D. Moore), I'd rather risk it with Dez and have him go 2/11/0 in my lineup rather than go 7/110/1 on my bench.I already experienced it in Week 1 of the playoffs with DX on my bench and almost losing because of it. #### me if I'll let that happen again.
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To a degree, I've never really understood this line of thought beyond the obvious that some people have the gambler's mentality.But in a practical sense, here you are, after three months, and you are in the playoffs, likely one game away from the title. Whether you play for the fun, the sense of accomplishment, or the money, the goal is the same (win your league).

So here you are now, playing in weeks where just a couple of points here or there usually represents the difference between moving on or ending your season and you adopt a mentality that you would rather lose and be eliminated than be anguished should a player on your bench have a big game. It's not personal. There are legit warning flags suggesting it might be a good idea to sit Dez IF you have other viable options.

I'm not saying either way is right or wrong (again, just saying its hard for me to buy into the thought, given what is at stake). I guess I'm more in the vein of thought that "yes, I could sit a player and that player blow up. But I could also play that player and basically guarantee I give away points that a safer, yet not as flashy player, would have generated." I'd like to make the gutsy call and be right and Dez blow up but at the end of the day what I really want is to be playing next week. So I'm more inclined to go with "just a guy". Somebody that will contribute a few more points to the aggregate for the team.

I guess I see it as if you sit him and he does well, its understandable. Its reasonable why you sat him. People wouldn't think you were stupid (not that anyone cares about your fantasy football team enough to truly take notice anyways). But if you start him and he goose-eggs, you're actually more likely to beat yourself up more if you lose a close game than had you just done what is practical.

Best of luck to everyone with this decision, either way you go. Just don't overthink it.

 
What's "practical" is to start the guy who scored a TD last week, which he scored after the injury that is in question. Dez has been on fire: he plays, he's in my lineup.

'Shutout said:
'donkshow said:
'Clifford said:
'Neo said:
Sorry there is no way I'm benching Dez because of 1 finger if he plays. Not concerned one bit.
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This. I can live with playing him and losing because he stunk. But I can't live with losing because I left him on my bench and he blew up.
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Exactly. Considering who my replacements are (Hilton or D. Moore), I'd rather risk it with Dez and have him go 2/11/0 in my lineup rather than go 7/110/1 on my bench.I already experienced it in Week 1 of the playoffs with DX on my bench and almost losing because of it. #### me if I'll let that happen again.
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To a degree, I've never really understood this line of thought beyond the obvious that some people have the gambler's mentality.But in a practical sense, here you are, after three months, and you are in the playoffs, likely one game away from the title. Whether you play for the fun, the sense of accomplishment, or the money, the goal is the same (win your league).

So here you are now, playing in weeks where just a couple of points here or there usually represents the difference between moving on or ending your season and you adopt a mentality that you would rather lose and be eliminated than be anguished should a player on your bench have a big game. It's not personal. There are legit warning flags suggesting it might be a good idea to sit Dez IF you have other viable options.

I'm not saying either way is right or wrong (again, just saying its hard for me to buy into the thought, given what is at stake). I guess I'm more in the vein of thought that "yes, I could sit a player and that player blow up. But I could also play that player and basically guarantee I give away points that a safer, yet not as flashy player, would have generated." I'd like to make the gutsy call and be right and Dez blow up but at the end of the day what I really want is to be playing next week. So I'm more inclined to go with "just a guy". Somebody that will contribute a few more points to the aggregate for the team.

I guess I see it as if you sit him and he does well, its understandable. Its reasonable why you sat him. People wouldn't think you were stupid (not that anyone cares about your fantasy football team enough to truly take notice anyways). But if you start him and he goose-eggs, you're actually more likely to beat yourself up more if you lose a close game than had you just done what is practical.

Best of luck to everyone with this decision, either way you go. Just don't overthink it.
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'Shutout said:
To a degree, I've never really understood this line of thought beyond the obvious that some people have the gambler's mentality.But in a practical sense, here you are, after three months, and you are in the playoffs, likely one game away from the title. Whether you play for the fun, the sense of accomplishment, or the money, the goal is the same (win your league). So here you are now, playing in weeks where just a couple of points here or there usually represents the difference between moving on or ending your season and you adopt a mentality that you would rather lose and be eliminated than be anguished should a player on your bench have a big game. It's not personal. There are legit warning flags suggesting it might be a good idea to sit Dez IF you have other viable options. I'm not saying either way is right or wrong (again, just saying its hard for me to buy into the thought, given what is at stake). I guess I'm more in the vein of thought that "yes, I could sit a player and that player blow up. But I could also play that player and basically guarantee I give away points that a safer, yet not as flashy player, would have generated." I'd like to make the gutsy call and be right and Dez blow up but at the end of the day what I really want is to be playing next week. So I'm more inclined to go with "just a guy". Somebody that will contribute a few more points to the aggregate for the team. I guess I see it as if you sit him and he does well, its understandable. Its reasonable why you sat him. People wouldn't think you were stupid (not that anyone cares about your fantasy football team enough to truly take notice anyways). But if you start him and he goose-eggs, you're actually more likely to beat yourself up more if you lose a close game than had you just done what is practical. Best of luck to everyone with this decision, either way you go. Just don't overthink it.
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I definitely understand where you are coming from. It's tongue-in-cheek because of course, I just want whoever has the best day to be in my lineup.
 
I dont see the problem. Nothing wrong with his wheels. The only issue could be catching the ball. Prolly gonna hurt, but again, they are in the playoff hunt. My gut tells me he plays and has a pretty solid day vs. a banged up Steelers secondary.

 
'Neo said:
Just reported on ESPN that Dez Bryant will "try to" play on Sunday....
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:goodposting: From ESPN:
After meeting with a hand specialist who confirmed a fractured left index finger requiring surgery, Dez Bryant has informed the Dallas Cowboys that he intends to delay the operation and will attempt to play Sunday against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a source said.
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We'll have a better idea after today's practice and how he does catching some passes.
 
'rascal said:
Debating between Leshoure, Bell, Short, and Dez if Bradshaw suits up.
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I'm riding Gordon and Givens over Dez in two different leagues. I just don't trust it with the exposure that injury has gotten. What do you want to bet on the first play the CB jams him on the line and grabs and squeezes his hand multiple times? It happens all the time.
 
benching him even if he plays but I have a good option in Cobb....if I didnt have such a good alternative I would be tempted to roll the dice with him....good luck guys!

 
'Kiddnets said:
benching him even if he plays but I have a good option in Cobb....if I didnt have such a good alternative I would be tempted to roll the dice with him....good luck guys!
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Facing a similar situation. My opponent has Green going tonight and a stronger team overall. If Green goes off I will consider starting Dez because I consider him to have more potential to put up a big game. Which I might need due to other injuries and facing a guy with a stacked, healthy line up.
 
'Manster said:
I dont see the problem. Nothing wrong with his wheels. The only issue could be catching the ball. Prolly gonna hurt, but again, they are in the playoff hunt. My gut tells me he plays and has a pretty solid day vs. a banged up Steelers secondary.
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I am seeing him used more of a decoy if anything, I am not feeling as good about it as you are...we'll see how the practice reports come out the next two days. I am more worried he jams or bangs that finger good and he's out of the game after that.
 
This just keeps getting more difficult. LOL. If he was going to sit, at least you can move on and say "well, I never had the option."

But now, trying to weigh going with the guy because he's been so hot...against a secondary that has issues....

Or, does this become a situation where he is a decoy? Or maybe he's legitimately in the flow of things but simply can't be effective (or worse, catches a ball and immediately goes to the sideline because the finger is hurting).

OR...game is close and Romo feels better going to Witten or Austin, knowing Dez may have a difficult time catching.

:cry: :excited:

 
'Manster said:
I dont see the problem. Nothing wrong with his wheels. The only issue could be catching the ball. Prolly gonna hurt, but again, they are in the playoff hunt. My gut tells me he plays and has a pretty solid day vs. a banged up Steelers secondary.
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The bolded is untrue. You have to use your hands violently to get off the jam. He's going to get pressed hard I would think.
 
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Blocking could be a problem as well, which limits his snaps and opportunity in the play action game.

But its Dez or Fitz for me.... ughh.

 
If Cecil Shorts is able to play I'm going to plug him in over Bryant in one league. In the other I'm playing Britt over him. Just don't trust him enough with a broken finger. Good chance I'll be proven wrong, and good for Bryant if I am, but if I have any semi-decent option I'd sit him.

 
(KFFL)Dallas Cowboys head coach Jason Garrett said the team is giving WR Dez Bryant (finger) every chance to play in Week 15 against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bryant hasn't caught passes this week and won't do so Thursday, Dec. 13, because his finger is still swollen. The club is confident that he can play this weekend because he caught a touchdown pass last week after fracturing his finger and having it taped together with his middle finger.
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my WR options are sad right now:

[*]Dez - broken finger

[*]Nicks - bum knee and foot

[*]Greg Jennings - hasnt done much since beingback

[*]steve johnson - always seemingly injured but still produces decent numbers

I have to pick 2 from that injury riddled unit... LOL, I just may start Dez

 
Given the information, I'm surprised the Cowboys would let him play. If he does cause permanent damage to his finger, I smell lawsuit.

 
'Dark Matter said:
'Manster said:
I dont see the problem. Nothing wrong with his wheels. The only issue could be catching the ball. Prolly gonna hurt, but again, they are in the playoff hunt. My gut tells me he plays and has a pretty solid day vs. a banged up Steelers secondary.
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The bolded is untrue. You have to use your hands violently to get off the jam. He's going to get pressed hard I would think.
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Ok, so splint, tape, good to go!
 
The Steelers got a little bit of good news on the injury front: starting CB Keenan Lewis was a full participant at practice yesterday and is expected to play against the Cowboys. The Steelers were looking at the possibility of starting both Curtis Brown, who was bench for ineffectiveness last week and Josh Victorian who played in his first NFL game last week against the Chargers.

Also LB LaMarr Woodley made it through his second day of practice and barring any setbacks will start on Sunday.

 
For all the tough guys saying Dez should just tape it up and get over it:

"The concern with such injuries is the long term alignment and function of the finger. If the tendon has been completely disrupted, it will be impossible for Bryant to extend (or flex, depending on the tendon injured) his finger joint. If not repaired immediately, the injury may never be able to be repaired in an anatomically correct position. That could have a major effect on Bryant's ability to catch passes in the future"

From Jene Bramel, Second Opinion.

The choice to play this week is not only a decision that could cost Dez a lot of money, but also could effect the Cowboys for year to come. This is not a simple, sucks it up and be a man situation.

 
'Wadsworth said:
For all the tough guys saying Dez should just tape it up and get over it:

"The concern with such injuries is the long term alignment and function of the finger. If the tendon has been completely disrupted, it will be impossible for Bryant to extend (or flex, depending on the tendon injured) his finger joint. If not repaired immediately, the injury may never be able to be repaired in an anatomically correct position. That could have a major effect on Bryant's ability to catch passes in the future"

From Jene Bramel, Second Opinion.

The choice to play this week is not only a decision that could cost Dez a lot of money, but also could effect the Cowboys for year to come. This is not a simple, sucks it up and be a man situation.
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All things pointing to Dez being a full go, per RW @ http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5558/dez-bryant:
According to ESPN's Ed Werder, the Cowboys now have solution to protect Dez Bryant's broken finger while allowing him to catch passes.

Werder cautions, however, that it will be a "painful" game for Bryant. The Cowboys will monitor Dez as a blocker and receiver in pregame warmups Sunday to make sure he can function well enough to be an asset against the Steelers. Although Bryant's status is unlikely to be officially announced until game day, all signs point toward the streaking receiver getting the green light.

Source: Ed Werder on Twitter Dec 14 - 12:22 PM
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'letter_j said:
'Wadsworth said:
For all the tough guys saying Dez should just tape it up and get over it:

"The concern with such injuries is the long term alignment and function of the finger. If the tendon has been completely disrupted, it will be impossible for Bryant to extend (or flex, depending on the tendon injured) his finger joint. If not repaired immediately, the injury may never be able to be repaired in an anatomically correct position. That could have a major effect on Bryant's ability to catch passes in the future"

From Jene Bramel, Second Opinion.

The choice to play this week is not only a decision that could cost Dez a lot of money, but also could effect the Cowboys for year to come. This is not a simple, sucks it up and be a man situation.
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All things pointing to Dez being a full go, per RW @ http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5558/dez-bryant:
According to ESPN's Ed Werder, the Cowboys now have solution to protect Dez Bryant's broken finger while allowing him to catch passes.

Werder cautions, however, that it will be a "painful" game for Bryant. The Cowboys will monitor Dez as a blocker and receiver in pregame warmups Sunday to make sure he can function well enough to be an asset against the Steelers. Although Bryant's status is unlikely to be officially announced until game day, all signs point toward the streaking receiver getting the green light.

Source: Ed Werder on Twitter Dec 14 - 12:22 PM
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man this smells like a decoy type game or a low performance game if he can catch it.

I mean is Romo going to throw him the deep ball after he drops one that he'd normally catch?

 
'Dentist said:
man this smells like a decoy type game or a low performance game if he can catch it.I mean is Romo going to throw him the deep ball after he drops one that he'd normally catch?
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Yep, it reeks of decoy game with Witten/Austin being the likely beneficiary. Not sure if I have the stones to start Miles though.
 
The latest, per RW @ http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5558/dez-bryant:

Dez Bryant (questionable, finger) played catch with DeMarco Murray prior to the Cowboys' Friday practice.

Bryant primarily threw the ball back and forth with his right hand. Dez is a southpaw. Bryant did catch "a few passes" in Thursday's practice and was expected to do more on Friday. His participation in team drills was officially listed as limited. "His mindset is to play in the game," said coach Jason Garrett, "and we're excited about that. And we'll continue to evaluate him." Dec 14 - 2:03 PM

Source: ESPN Dallas
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Some interesting thoughts on Dez from Evan Silva, per RW @ http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42118/179/matchups-uncorking-kap?pg=4:

Dez Bryant secured 2-of-2 targets for 36 yards and a touchdown after fracturing his index finger in the fourth quarter of last week's win over the Bengals. That in and of itself would be enough for me personally to start a red-hot Bryant against Pittsburgh's beat-up secondary, but the possibility exists that Dez will be used mostly as a decoy while playing with a "hard splint" on his left hand. ESPN's Ed Werder explored the latter notion on Mike & Mike Thursday. "Even if he doesn't catch the ball effectively, they could put him on the field ... and the Steelers not know that. And still command a lot of double coverage," Werder suggested. "Because he can still run. So if he's ineffective in the game and Romo doesn't throw to him, the Steelers and **** LeBeau might think it's because the coverage they're playing on him isn't making him available to Romo. This is an injury they can conceal, at least maybe for a game, how detrimental it might be to him catching a football." The best fantasy advice I can give is to trust your gut. Mine says to start Dez, especially after Werder reported Friday that the Cowboys have found a "solution" to protect Bryant's broken finger, allowing him to catch footballs.
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I have gone through a similar thought process, and, as such, am leaning this way too, with Dez starting over Michael Crabtree and Miles Austin.
 
I feel like I just got a gift. I have an 11-3 team that is fading. My WRs were Green, Wallace, Djax, Blackmon, Bowe, and Amendola, so basically down to Green, Wallace, and Blackmon as my 3 starting WR. Someone dropped Miles Austin and I got him on waivers. I am a Steelers homer and don't see any way they stop him. If Bryant plays, he will see a lot of Keenan Lewis. That leaves potentially Brown, Victorian, and Van Dyke to cover Austin, most likely with safety help. He should have a field day. And I don't think Dallas will be able to run the ball.

 
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'Clorox said:
I feel like I just got a gift. I have an 11-3 team that is fading. My WRs were Green, Wallace, Djax, Blackmon, Bowe, and Amendola, so basically down to Green, Wallace, and Blackmon as my 3 starting WR. Someone dropped Miles Austin and I got him on waivers. I am a Steelers homer and don't see any way they stop him. If Bryant plays, he will see a lot of Keenan Lewis. That leaves potentially Brown, Victorian, and Van Dyke to cover Austin, most likely with safety help. He should have a field day. And I don't think Dallas will be able to run the ball.
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How does Keenan Lewis matchup with a 100% Dez do you think? I don't know my DBS real well.
 
'TimTebow said:
How does Keenan Lewis matchup with a 100% Dez do you think? I don't know my DBS real well.
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Lewis has had an up and down season. He's a big, physical CB who plays aggressively. Whereas you don't hear Ike Taylor's name a lot during games, you see more of Lewis (good and bad). I believe he's among the league leaders in passes defended. Anyway, in a perfect world you have Ike on Dez and Keenan on Miles. Ike probably keeps Dez somewhat in check. But I think Lewis matches up well with Bryant again because he is physical and likes to jam. If Dallas is smart tomorrow, they target whoever Lewis is not covering. Ryan Clark will also play a huge role with coverage over the top.ETA - bottom line is losing Ike and Cortez Allen hurts the Steelers badly. Denario Alexander and Michael freaking Spurlock carved the Steelers up last week. I think Dez is a bit of a decoy (but maybe catches a TD), Witten doesn't have the big game most are expecting, and Austin and the other no-name WRs have above average games (using their past performance as a baseline) because of the above.
 
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'ImTheScientist said:
'noneother said:
I honestly think they will go Bryant a LOT. But I also think it won't be until the 3rd qtr
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Blind optimism at its best.
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There is something to be said for the idea that the Cowboys might try to win the game without focusing on Bryant early. If they fall behind or the game is close they might then give Bryant some more targets. But overall this just screams a decoy game for Dez. From what the Steeler homers seem to be saying Pitt might only be able to start one CB that has proven anything. If they lock up Dez with that CB, then the Cowboys might just focus on other receiving options. But what do the Cowboys do if the Steelers roll coverage to Austin? There are so many unknowns in this situation. Starting Dez if you have any other reasonable options is a big leap of faith at this point.
 
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