Did ATL D/ST get credit for a Safety? (1 Viewer)

[ridleyman]

I'm manually managing our playoff league scoring, but didn't know if Atlanta's D/ST should get 2 points for a safety since it was a penalty that lead to it. I know they don't receive a Sack because it was an intentional grounding penalty, but does the official scoring reward them with a Safety? It may seem obvious, but the penalty is throwing me for a loop.

 

[rizzler]

2 points on the board = safety, my friend

 

[Reepicheep]

Interesting question. My first inclination is to say yes, but it is strange, because Atlanta did not actually record a tackle in the endzone. Assuming the answer to OP's question is yes, are there any other penalties that can result in fantasy scoring?

 

[GregR]

Interesting question. My first inclination is to say yes, but it is strange, because Atlanta did not actually record a tackle in the endzone. Assuming the answer to OP's question is yes, are there any other penalties that can result in fantasy scoring?

Committing a palpably unfair act, such as a bench player going on the field to tackle a runner heading for the end zone, could result in a touchdown being awarded. Not sure if official stats would give it to the offensive player or not though.

 

[Joe Summer]

All Safeties are credited to the D/ST, by definition. If Manning had intentionally taken a knee in the endzone, the Atlanta D/ST still would be credited with a Safety.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=OPP&offensiveStatisticCategory=null&defensiveStatisticCategory=SCORING&season=2011&seasonType=POST&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?archive=false&conference=null&role=TM&offensiveStatisticCategory=SCORING&defensiveStatisticCategory=null&season=2011&seasonType=POST&tabSeq=2&qualified=true&Submit=Go

 

[Reepicheep]

Interesting question. My first inclination is to say yes, but it is strange, because Atlanta did not actually record a tackle in the endzone. Assuming the answer to OP's question is yes, are there any other penalties that can result in fantasy scoring?

Committing a palpably unfair act, such as a bench player going on the field to tackle a runner heading for the end zone, could result in a touchdown being awarded. Not sure if official stats would give it to the offensive player or not though.

Wow, I never knew that was possible. You are a real asset to the SP. Any idea if a TD has ever been awarded for a "palpably unfair act" in the history of the NFL? I would like to hear a referee use the phrase "palpably unfair act" before I die. The only thing is if someone did something bad enough to warrant this, it would likely result in a bench-clearing brawl and untangling the mess of penalties and ejections would be quite a chore.

 

[Joe Summer]

Interesting question. My first inclination is to say yes, but it is strange, because Atlanta did not actually record a tackle in the endzone. Assuming the answer to OP's question is yes, are there any other penalties that can result in fantasy scoring?

Committing a palpably unfair act, such as a bench player going on the field to tackle a runner heading for the end zone, could result in a touchdown being awarded. Not sure if official stats would give it to the offensive player or not though.

Wow, I never knew that was possible. You are a real asset to the SP. Any idea if a TD has ever been awarded for a "palpably unfair act" in the history of the NFL? I would like to hear a referee use the phrase "palpably unfair act" before I die. The only thing is if someone did something bad enough to warrant this, it would likely result in a bench-clearing brawl and untangling the mess of penalties and ejections would be quite a chore.

It has never happened in the NFL but it has happened in college a few times (the most famous example being the
.)

 

[zed2283]

Holding in the end zone is a safety also. All safeties are awarded to the D/ST.

 

[Joe Summer]

Holding in the end zone is a safety also. All safeties are awarded to the D/ST.

It is possible for the offense to score a safety, but I've never seen it happen and I don't know how it would be scored.

 

[GregR]

Holding in the end zone is a safety also. All safeties are awarded to the D/ST.

It is possible for the offense to score a safety, but I've never seen it happen and I don't know how it would be scored.

The offense scores a safety when the ball is in the field of play and the defense provides the impetus to send it into their own end zone, and then either the ball goes out of bounds or the defense recovers it in the end zone. If it happens on a normal play it is a 2 point score for the offense. If it happens on an extra point it is a 1 point safety. Here is a writeup with the text of the rules on it.

Edit to add: If I remember right, the ball that Troy Polamalu punched early in the season should have been a defensive safety. He punched it into his own end zone and it ended up going out of bounds IIRC. However, the refs did not call the illegal batting when he punched it, so it wasn't ruled a safety.

 

[GregR]

Interesting question. My first inclination is to say yes, but it is strange, because Atlanta did not actually record a tackle in the endzone. Assuming the answer to OP's question is yes, are there any other penalties that can result in fantasy scoring?

Committing a palpably unfair act, such as a bench player going on the field to tackle a runner heading for the end zone, could result in a touchdown being awarded. Not sure if official stats would give it to the offensive player or not though.

Wow, I never knew that was possible. You are a real asset to the SP. Any idea if a TD has ever been awarded for a "palpably unfair act" in the history of the NFL? I would like to hear a referee use the phrase "palpably unfair act" before I die. The only thing is if someone did something bad enough to warrant this, it would likely result in a bench-clearing brawl and untangling the mess of penalties and ejections would be quite a chore.

Not aware of it being called in the NFL, but one place it has made an impact on the game is that some players used to block long field goals by jumping up in front of the goal post and blocking the kick before it made it to the crossbar. There was a guy named Morris Stroud who did it enough that when the NFL made it a palpably unfair act (which would result in 3 points being given to the kicking team), it became known as the Stroud Rule.