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Did Jordy's drop affect your playoff/championship. (1 Viewer)

Did Jordy's drop affect your playoff/championship?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 41.7%
  • No

    Votes: 38 39.6%
  • Depends what happens tonight

    Votes: 18 18.8%

  • Total voters
    96
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.
I agree, he would have scored from the looks of it, but the point I am making is nothing is a given and any of those I suggested could have happened. What ifs are all over the place in fantasy. What if McCoy runs those two TDs in last night and not Polk? What ifs are everywhere.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.
I agree, he would have scored from the looks of it, but the point I am making is nothing is a given and any of those I suggested could have happened. What ifs are all over the place in fantasy. What if McCoy runs those two TDs in last night and not Polk? What ifs are everywhere.
McCoy couldn't score from the sidelines. A coach's decision vs. a drop is not a great comp.

 
Jordy and Rodgers owners both out of the playoffs as of week 15. Voted "no" but FYI in case your point was "of the teams that had Nelson/Rodgers ... "

EDIT: Pretty much what Jerry Curl said. It's fun to play coulda-woulda though.

 
If Jordy makes that catch and completes the touchdown run, my opponent would have an additional 10 points for Rodgers. So I am very thankful for that drop.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.
I agree, he would have scored from the looks of it, but the point I am making is nothing is a given and any of those I suggested could have happened. What ifs are all over the place in fantasy. What if McCoy runs those two TDs in last night and not Polk? What ifs are everywhere.
McCoy couldn't score from the sidelines. A coach's decision vs. a drop is not a great comp.
McCoy was in the play before they reviewed the Maclin play at the GL and it was handed to him on the snap. After the review he went out, what if no review, he scores and Polk dont? Better? What ifs - everywhere, you can do it all day for every player. That is the point I am making.

For the OP, Nelson didnt end up costing me in the league I am alive in where I own him and did not play against him in any league this week.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.
I agree, he would have scored from the looks of it, but the point I am making is nothing is a given and any of those I suggested could have happened. What ifs are all over the place in fantasy. What if McCoy runs those two TDs in last night and not Polk? What ifs are everywhere.
McCoy couldn't score from the sidelines. A coach's decision vs. a drop is not a great comp.
McCoy was in the play before they reviewed the Maclin play at the GL and it was handed to him on the snap. After the review he went out, what if no review, he scores and Polk dont? Better? What ifs - everywhere, you can do it all day for every player. That is the point I am making.

For the OP, Nelson didnt end up costing me in the league I am alive in where I own him and did not play against him in any league this week.
Of course you can what-if all over the place, but the ones that are as cut-and-dry as the Jordy drop stick out in our minds. If you get bonus points for the length of the TD catch then it could be even more of a swing.

It was a big play, right in our face, that was borked. Of course us hardcore FFs are "Holy shi***ng" ourselves all over the house if we owned or were playing against him.

 
Had Rodgers and get pts per completion, yardage, and TD. It would have been at least 8 points and I'm going into tonight down 9 with Bennett left and he has Alshon.

 
Very big deal. Down 4 with Alshon, going against Bennett instead of up 11 with the same scenario. Crushing drop.
Exact opposite scenario for me (opponent had Nelson). Up 10 with Graham vs. Bennett instead of down 5. The way Graham's been going, I'll probably lose anyway :shrug:

 
Just one of many significant players to perform well under their seasonal average. I had a few. I am going down, though I will likely still maintain the total points lead in my league. It sucks, but it happens. You give yourself a likelihood of winning if you are good at FF, but variance is a #####. I could still win if Cutler has a career game. I have already resigned myself to the loss.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
C'mon, 99% chance he's out the gate if he hauls that in. We've seen that play out of him a million times. The safety took a terrible angle. He had no shot.
I agree, he would have scored from the looks of it, but the point I am making is nothing is a given and any of those I suggested could have happened. What ifs are all over the place in fantasy. What if McCoy runs those two TDs in last night and not Polk? What ifs are everywhere.
McCoy couldn't score from the sidelines. A coach's decision vs. a drop is not a great comp.
McCoy was in the play before they reviewed the Maclin play at the GL and it was handed to him on the snap. After the review he went out, what if no review, he scores and Polk dont? Better? What ifs - everywhere, you can do it all day for every player. That is the point I am making.

For the OP, Nelson didnt end up costing me in the league I am alive in where I own him and did not play against him in any league this week.
RaiderNation is 100% correct. Jordy makes that play 99+% of the time. Even if McCoy is in on the 1 he doesn't score a TD 99% of the time in that scenario.

 
Would have been a huge swing for me, as I own Jordy in my semi-final match. Yardage on the play, 6 for the TD, plus it would have put him over 100 yd on the day for 5 bonus points. I ended up winning anyway so ultimately no effect, but at the time my opponent still had Calvin, CJ Anderson, Gates, and Wilson to go so I was definitely cursing Jordy when it happened.

 
Would have been tackled around the Bills 40 IMO. Could he have scored? Sure but the that safety likely would have at least gotten his hands on him just past mid field. Jordy was going to have to angle back toward the sideline as soon as he hauled it in to avoid the safety.

 
http://gamedayr.com/lifestyle/twitter-reactions-lifestyle/jordy-nelson-drops-pass-infuriates-fantasy-owners-128005/

Depending on your rules that could be a major swing. I was just curious how big a deal was it.
Oh wow.

Thanks a lot, I did not realize that happened.

Uhm, yes that cost me a lot.
Man the tweets from those people are not even reasonable.

One guy says he is never drafting Nelson again and another said he was cutting him.

Internet is full of some wise people.

 
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The drop helped me survive starting Manziel. The drop lost the other semi final game for Rodgers owner.

 
I'm in a dogfight tonight (opponent has Graham & Forte, I have Cutler), that Jordy play likely (I assume a TD since the safety had bad angle) cost me 15.5 pts. He's been such a reliable stud this year, so I'm not hatin' on him, but man, this could hurt badly. ODB carried my WRs this week, but a big play like Jordy's drop would've been huge.

 
That drop probably cost me 20-30% of win equity. I have about a 15% chance of winning now instead of maybe 40% chance.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
:goodposting:

It appears that Williams has an angle and good chance to catch Nelson. Big assumption that he scores on that.

 
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
:goodposting:

It appears that Williams has an angle and good chance to catch Nelson. Big assumption that he scores on that.
I think it's a bigger assumption that Williams catches him. Nelson is fast and was in stride. I don't think most people know how fast Jordy is.

 
Alkahsu said:
32 Counter Pass said:
Jerry Curl said:
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
:goodposting:

It appears that Williams has an angle and good chance to catch Nelson. Big assumption that he scores on that.
I think it's a bigger assumption that Williams catches him. Nelson is fast and was in stride. I don't think most people know how fast Jordy is.
Have you met Pythagoras?

 
Jerry Curl said:
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
Exactly. It was far from a guaranteed TD even if he'd caught it.

Players drop passes all the time. Your fantasy score is a combination of 8-9 players, not one drop by one guy.

 
Killed me.....Among many other things. But I lost by less than a point.

All I wanted was the catch. Or a couple of plays in the 2 minute drill before that strip/sack and ####### Safety.

By the way, the Holy Roller rule was an overreaction and outdated. Among several dumb rules in the NFL.

 
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With Cutler crapping all over the field, the missed Jordy catch, even if it wouldn't have been a TD (hell, I'd take a 50-60 yd gain), will be the cause of my loss as soon as Forte starts getting fed lots of worthless little dump offs in the 4th quarter. A TD by either Forte or Graham will be the end of me. Why Jordy, why? I count on you...to save me from Cutler.

 
With Cutler crapping all over the field, the missed Jordy catch, even if it wouldn't have been a TD (hell, I'd take a 50-60 yd gain), will be the cause of my loss as soon as Forte starts getting fed lots of worthless little dump offs in the 4th quarter. A TD by either Forte or Graham will be the end of me. Why Jordy, why? I count on you...to save me from Cutler.
I have to confess you guys crack me up.

Do you watch ever snap of every player on your team? Are you charting every drop? What about a guy who could have made a cut an gained an extra five yards? What about a bad pass by the QB when your guy was open?

To declare definitively you won or lost a game because of one play or missed play by one guy is silly.

 
ended up losing by 7 points.....so yes, the Nelson drop didn't help at all (ODB helped to make it close, but still go home with the "L")

 
With Cutler crapping all over the field, the missed Jordy catch, even if it wouldn't have been a TD (hell, I'd take a 50-60 yd gain), will be the cause of my loss as soon as Forte starts getting fed lots of worthless little dump offs in the 4th quarter. A TD by either Forte or Graham will be the end of me. Why Jordy, why? I count on you...to save me from Cutler.
Sounds like he saved you one too many times and your luck ran out.

 
I disagree it would've been a certain TD. I just watched the replay & I think Jordy gets caught. The defender was about 3 yards farther up field & had a decent angle. Jordy would've had to break the tackle to score, IMO.

 
Far from a certain thing that he scores, but even if defender cuts him off I could see Jordy cutting back and running diagonally across the field for the score. I think more times than not he scores, but it is far from a sure thing. Just thankful I escaped with a narrow victory even though Rodgers killed me.

 
I disagree it would've been a certain TD. I just watched the replay & I think Jordy gets caught. The defender was about 3 yards farther up field & had a decent angle. Jordy would've had to break the tackle to score, IMO.
I'll respectfully disagree with your disagreement. Jordy is faster than Aaron Williams (4.51 vs. 4.55) and he's barely in the picture at the point the ball would have been caught.

 
Alkahsu said:
32 Counter Pass said:
Jerry Curl said:
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
:goodposting:

It appears that Williams has an angle and good chance to catch Nelson. Big assumption that he scores on that.
I think it's a bigger assumption that Williams catches him. Nelson is fast and was in stride. I don't think most people know how fast Jordy is.
Have you met Pythagoras?
You might want to go brush up on your 7th grade geometry if you think the Pythagorean Therom applies here. Not only does the equation not account for speed, but the hypotenuse ( the diagonal) is the longest side of the triangle.

 
I won my game easily without the catch, but as a Packers fan it was hard to watch. So used to Jordy catching everything and making so many big plays, it was tough to watch, but I am sure it was a lot harder for Jordy than it was for us.

 
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Alkahsu said:
32 Counter Pass said:
Jerry Curl said:
Everything is a thread now n days, but since you asked you are assuming you know the end result of the play even if he catches it. Could have been tackled, fumbled or a penalty after the catch. Nothing is a given, you can create a thread like this for every player thats why they are pointless except for those who suffered to come grieve.
:goodposting:

It appears that Williams has an angle and good chance to catch Nelson. Big assumption that he scores on that.
I think it's a bigger assumption that Williams catches him. Nelson is fast and was in stride. I don't think most people know how fast Jordy is.
Have you met Pythagoras?
You might want to go brush up on your 7th grade geometry if you think the Pythagorean Therom applies here. Not only does the equation not account for speed, but the hypotenuse ( the diagonal) is the longest side of the triangle.[/

LOL.......don't ever try to look like the smartest guy in the room Alkahsu there is always someone smarter......

That being said Jordy scores he was a 100 meter sprint champ people seem to forget that and he has cut back on DB's many times in the past on these long TD's.
 
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That drop - assuming Nelson scored - affected BOTH semifinal games. In one game, it was the absolute difference - guy with Jordy lost by 4. In the other game it wound up not making a difference for the Rodgers owner who lost by 20.....but who knows how that game would have turned out. Rodgers wound up with -2, they hit that catch he is at least at +9 and the game plays out differently.

 
Cobb got in on the act as well - getting cut down at the 1 on a 72 yard catch and run. Poor Aaron Rodgers.
Are you sure that happened? I remember Cobb getting tackled on the 1 on like a 10 yard catch, but not 72.
I actually looked this up too because I couldn't remember it happening. Cobb had 7-96 with a long reception of 20 yards. Not sure what he's talking about. I do recall the play you're talking about, it was an 11-yard pass to set up the Lacy TD in the 2nd quarter.

 
He's like a coach on the field. Such a precise route runner and does all the little things so well. Brings his lunchpail every Sunday.

 
I would bet that Jordy won you more games than he lost for you this season (as he did for me), but that drop did hurt. I definitely can't be too mad at the guy though because I would have had a much tougher time getting into the playoffs without him.

 

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