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I agree, but IDK how anyone would drop Lewis either.I love Lewis but there's no way I'd drop Abdullah in any league right now
I agree, but IDK how anyone would drop Lewis either.I love Lewis but there's no way I'd drop Abdullah in any league right now
Yeah neither of these guys should be on WWs, even in 10-team leagues.I agree, but IDK how anyone would drop Lewis either.I love Lewis but there's no way I'd drop Abdullah in any league right now
I think you are about a week late to the party on that.Never thought I'd say this, but I would trade Abdullah for Lewis in redraft ...but how is your bench so loaded that you have to drop him?
I like that deal for you now. If Smith has another second-half fade like last season it's going to look like an incredible steal.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Love it.I like that deal for you now. If Smith has another second-half fade like last season it's going to look like an incredible steal.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Tried the same, they came back asking for either Julio or Gronk.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Goes to show that his value is all over the place. Some see him as a RB1 type, others view him as a hard to figure out pass catcher in a RBBC.Tried the same, they came back asking for either Julio or Gronk.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
WR2's (Smith's realistic ceiling) are a lot easier to get than a RB1 (Lewis' realistic ceiling)everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Obviously depends on your team.everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
You are so off on this that its almost impressive.well i was half right, it was blount and white that ate into lewis' production not cadet. cadet had been injured for over two months and kept getting setbacks so he was at the end of the line, the pats needed that roster spot. same thing happened to lewis in cleveland. i just cant trust a scatback that runs a 4.6 and gets caught from behind by LBs. he is forsett 2.0 being propped up by scheme and BB changes schemes weekly.
The delusion is strong with this one.well i was half right, it was blount and white that ate into lewis' production not cadet. cadet had been injured for over two months and kept getting setbacks so he was at the end of the line, the pats needed that roster spot. same thing happened to lewis in cleveland. i just cant trust a scatback that runs a 4.6 and gets caught from behind by LBs. he is forsett 2.0 being propped up by scheme and BB changes schemes weekly.
Me too. My RBs are a bunch of maybes. Liked Lewis upside and counting on smith acting like a 36 year old.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
You were right along the lines that a broke clock is right twice a day.well i was half right, it was blount and white that ate into lewis' production not cadet. cadet had been injured for over two months and kept getting setbacks so he was at the end of the line, the pats needed that roster spot. same thing happened to lewis in cleveland. i just cant trust a scatback that runs a 4.6 and gets caught from behind by LBs. he is forsett 2.0 being propped up by scheme and BB changes schemes weekly.
I think you guys are talking about different types of leagues. In redraft, Smith for Lewis makes a lot of sense. In dynasty, not so much. It's not stretching to believe Smith could have more value THIS YEAR depending on roster construction and league rules.WR2's (Smith's realistic ceiling) are a lot easier to get than a RB1 (Lewis' realistic ceiling)everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Plus most people who have Steve Smith at this point probably had him as their WR3 or WR4 going in to the year so probably don't need his production. Hard to trust your opinion when less than a week ago you stated that Cadet would eat into Lewis' production.
I was assuming redraft as Smith is retiring. Of course its not a complete stretch that Smith could outproduce in terms of raw points, but even if he does positional rarity says Lewis if more valueable.I think you guys are talking about different types of leagues. In redraft, Smith for Lewis makes a lot of sense. In dynasty, not so much. It's not stretching to believe Smith could have more value THIS YEAR depending on roster construction and league rules.WR2's (Smith's realistic ceiling) are a lot easier to get than a RB1 (Lewis' realistic ceiling)everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Plus most people who have Steve Smith at this point probably had him as their WR3 or WR4 going in to the year so probably don't need his production. Hard to trust your opinion when less than a week ago you stated that Cadet would eat into Lewis' production.
You have no one else to drop, a backup QB or even your defense while you figure things outDropping Ameer for Dion today. Dion was dropped for Blount after his performance.
I feel pretty good about it, but I also feel like someone could end up getting a wire steal in Ameer. Oh fantasy football...
Nope. I'm maxed at RB so I had to drop one to get one.
Current RB's:
CJ Anderson
Jeremy Hill
Joe Randle
Arian Foster
Dion Lewis
Karlos Williams
CJ and Hill were my 1 & 2 picks. I hated dropping Ameer but I feel they're similar players with similar situations, except Lewis is on a much better offense. I put a claim in for Karlos and got him this morning. I considered dropping him for Lewis but I'm in a bit of a win now mode and need him to start for me this week. I squeaked out 2 wins so far but I'm the 3rd lowest scoring team thus far and don't expect my luck to continue if I don't get crafty (thanks CJ and Hill).
Trading Smith for Lewis makes even more sense in dynasty than it does in redraft.I think you guys are talking about different types of leagues. In redraft, Smith for Lewis makes a lot of sense. In dynasty, not so much. It's not stretching to believe Smith could have more value THIS YEAR depending on roster construction and league rules.WR2's (Smith's realistic ceiling) are a lot easier to get than a RB1 (Lewis' realistic ceiling)Plus most people who have Steve Smith at this point probably had him as their WR3 or WR4 going in to the year so probably don't need his production. Hard to trust your opinion when less than a week ago you stated that Cadet would eat into Lewis' production.everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Absolutely. But it helps to show readonable value.I think you guys are talking about different types of leagues. In redraft, Smith for Lewis makes a lot of sense. In dynasty, not so much. It's not stretching to believe Smith could have more value THIS YEAR depending on roster construction and league rules.WR2's (Smith's realistic ceiling) are a lot easier to get than a RB1 (Lewis' realistic ceiling)Plus most people who have Steve Smith at this point probably had him as their WR3 or WR4 going in to the year so probably don't need his production. Hard to trust your opinion when less than a week ago you stated that Cadet would eat into Lewis' production.everyone knows lewis was a waiver claim and with blounts 3 TDs people arent willing to pay much for him yet in my leagues. getting offers of benjamin and matt jones and other waiver wonders. i would trade away lewis for steve smith in a heartbeat though, lewis has the higher floor but wont touch smiths ceiling, with perriman having knee surgery smith could end with 35% of the ravens targets this season.Just dealt Steve Smith Sr. for Lewis straight up.
Lol sounds like a fun leaguecowboys88 said:Dropping Ameer for Dion today. Dion was dropped for Blount after his performance.
I feel pretty good about it, but I also feel like someone could end up getting a wire steal in Ameer. Oh fantasy football...
ConnSKINS26 said:You are so off on this that its almost impressive.Rimez said:well i was half right, it was blount and white that ate into lewis' production not cadet. cadet had been injured for over two months and kept getting setbacks so he was at the end of the line, the pats needed that roster spot. same thing happened to lewis in cleveland. i just cant trust a scatback that runs a 4.6 and gets caught from behind by LBs. he is forsett 2.0 being propped up by scheme and BB changes schemes weekly.
 Wow. Glad I don't pay any attention to their rankings. I'm thinking they are probably asleep at the wheel when updating dynasty rankings in season. I can't fathom two "pros" ranking Christine Michael higher.Four Footballguys staff have recent dynasty RB rankings up.
One guy has Lewis ranked RB36 (rankings done after Week 2)
Three have him at RB44, RB41, RB17 (rankings done after Week 3)
Composite is RB31.
I don't know that my ranking is better than theirs, only time will tell. Just putting them all out there for some perspective.Wow. Glad I don't pay any attention to their rankings. I'm thinking they are probably asleep at the wheel when updating dynasty rankings in season. I can't fathom two "pros" ranking Christine Michael higher.Four Footballguys staff have recent dynasty RB rankings up.
One guy has Lewis ranked RB36 (rankings done after Week 2)
Three have him at RB44, RB41, RB17 (rankings done after Week 3)
Composite is RB31.
Kudos to you for have him at 17, I know Adam & Sig are pounding the table for him now on Twitter.
Anything can happen sure, but to say there are 40+ RBs that are better assets in dynasty is just absurd. I'd like to know their process for rankings.I don't know that my ranking is better than theirs, only time will tell. Just putting them all out there for some perspective.
In a month the #17 might look like a joke, but he's definitely getting the touches and performing well, and seems to have the trust of his coaches. He's 25 and the RB1 for the best offense so far in the league.
I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
I can agree with 40+ RBs being more valuable than Lewis. I certainly wouldn't say that it is absurd. Weren't Jonas Gray and James White both getting similar production on a week to week basis at one point?Anything can happen sure, but to say there are 40+ RBs that are better assets in dynasty is just absurd. I'd like to know their process for rankings.I don't know that my ranking is better than theirs, only time will tell. Just putting them all out there for some perspective.
In a month the #17 might look like a joke, but he's definitely getting the touches and performing well, and seems to have the trust of his coaches. He's 25 and the RB1 for the best offense so far in the league.
It's either willfully ignorant, or a deliberate attempt to misdirect.ConnSKINS26 said:You are so off on this that its almost impressive.Rimez said:well i was half right, it was blount and white that ate into lewis' production not cadet. cadet had been injured for over two months and kept getting setbacks so he was at the end of the line, the pats needed that roster spot. same thing happened to lewis in cleveland. i just cant trust a scatback that runs a 4.6 and gets caught from behind by LBs. he is forsett 2.0 being propped up by scheme and BB changes schemes weekly.![]()
 Fair point. I missed a lot of the discussion. Hopefully, I didn't get beat up too bad on the trades I made, lol.I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
They do pass a bit more, but that will only help keep Lewis on the field.
I think you should go back to about page 8 or so, good discussion as to why he's not Jonas Gray, James White or even Shane Vereen.Fair point. I missed a lot of the discussion. Hopefully, I didn't get beat up too bad on the trades I made, lol.I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
They do pass a bit more, but that will only help keep Lewis on the field.
There are plenty of ?'s around some of the names in that area that have not shown the production capacity or talent level of Lewis. Agree to disagree I guess, rankings are subjective. I'd be curious to see where Adam & Sig have him ranked for dynasty purposes.I don't think 35-40 or so is unrealistic for Lewis in Dynasty. I love him in redraft leagues the rest of this season but long-term I have no idea how things could shake out. The picture could get much clearer as the season goes on but right now I'd be reluctant to rank him too high in Dynasty.
Dion Lewis for Marshawn Lynch (ppr)I think you should go back to about page 8 or so, good discussion as to why he's not Jonas Gray, James White or even Shane Vereen.Fair point. I missed a lot of the discussion. Hopefully, I didn't get beat up too bad on the trades I made, lol.I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
They do pass a bit more, but that will only help keep Lewis on the field.
What kind of trades did you make for market clarity, of course.
Apparently notThe FBG dynasty rankings use PPR as the base assumption by the way. That gives Lewis a boost.
 LOL, well, for me I meant.Apparently notThe FBG dynasty rankings use PPR as the base assumption by the way. That gives Lewis a boost.![]()
 Trying to get Lewis (keepers league):I think you should go back to about page 8 or so, good discussion as to why he's not Jonas Gray, James White or even Shane Vereen.Fair point. I missed a lot of the discussion. Hopefully, I didn't get beat up too bad on the trades I made, lol.I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
They do pass a bit more, but that will only help keep Lewis on the field.
What kind of trades did you make for market clarity, of course.
It can be hard to trade for guys like Lewis right now - many owners who have them are patting themselves on the back, looking at Lewis like a proud son of theirs because they had the foresight to grab him. They often overvalue him..Trying to get Lewis (keepers league):I think you should go back to about page 8 or so, good discussion as to why he's not Jonas Gray, James White or even Shane Vereen.Fair point. I missed a lot of the discussion. Hopefully, I didn't get beat up too bad on the trades I made, lol.I did the splits on Vereen/Blount/Ridley from 2012-2014 about 5-10 pages ago because the cold weather narrative came up. Spoiler: the numbers don't back it up.I didn't keep up with this entire conversation, but are people overlooking how Belicheck uses running backs differently towards the end of the season? I think Lewis is a guy you can use right now, but will diminish as the season progresses.
I only have Lewis in redraft leagues, so I'm not sure of the dynasty implications, but I sold Lewis in all leagues this week. I'm not sure when Belicheck is going to start changing up his backs, but I think it's a matter of when, not if it will happen. Feel free to disagree.
I was able to get Gore, Forsett, and Marshawn Lynch in the three leagues where I traded him.
They do pass a bit more, but that will only help keep Lewis on the field.
What kind of trades did you make for market clarity, of course.
Tyrod Taylor for Dion Lewis (he has Bridgewater, Cousins and Romo) ---> Denied
Tyrod Taylor and P Dorsett for Dion Lewis ----> Denied
Tyrod Taylor and Ivory for D Lewis -----> Denied
Kind of like how many non-owners have been looking at Lewis like a scorned ex-lover. They often undervalue him.many owners who have them are patting themselves on the back, looking at Lewis like a proud son of theirs because they had the foresight to grab him. They often overvalue him..
It's comments like these that turn threads adversarial instead of informative. I like hearing what other people are offering and are being offered for him.Kind of like how many non-owners have been looking at Lewis like a scorned ex-lover. They often undervalue him.many owners who have them are patting themselves on the back, looking at Lewis like a proud son of theirs because they had the foresight to grab him. They often overvalue him..
I agree, little too caffeinated this morning. Sorry.It's comments like these that turn threads adversarial instead of informative. I like hearing what other people are offering and are being offered for him.Kind of like how many non-owners have been looking at Lewis like a scorned ex-lover. They often undervalue him.many owners who have them are patting themselves on the back, looking at Lewis like a proud son of theirs because they had the foresight to grab him. They often overvalue him..
As a Dion owner (redraft, non-ppr) I worry that I am overvaluing him (same with Karlos Williams).
I think I'm undervaluing Lewis because of the opportunity cost. I didn't use a high draft pick on him - just a waiver pickup. Maybe I'm not in the majority, though.It can be hard to trade for guys like Lewis right now - many owners who have them are patting themselves on the back, looking at Lewis like a proud son of theirs because they had the foresight to grab him. They often overvalue him..