belljr
Footballguy
I picture cartoon "fast noises" when he's running
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Divisional Round Game Thread - SD Chargers at Pittsburgh Steelers (1 Viewer)
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Sheesh.PIT -6O/U 33.5
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Kicking the XP here?
Stupid. You go for 2 now, that way you know whether or not to take a FG later. It's the same reason you play defense first in overtime in college football, so you know what you need. You kick the XP there and go down by 11, then you could get left kicking a FG to go down 8, then score a TD and miss the two and lose by 2.
If you go for 2 now and miss it, now you know not to bother kicking the FG and don't waste a possession with it, knowing that you should just go for it on 4th down instead.
Not that it matters because they won't come back anyway. But it really annoys me how often coaches mess this stuff up.
Stupid. You go for 2 now, that way you know whether or not to take a FG later. It's the same reason you play defense first in overtime in college football, so you know what you need. You kick the XP there and go down by 11, then you could get left kicking a FG to go down 8, then score a TD and miss the two and lose by 2.
If you go for 2 now and miss it, now you know not to bother kicking the FG and don't waste a possession with it, knowing that you should just go for it on 4th down instead.
Not that it matters because they won't come back anyway. But it really annoys me how often coaches mess this stuff up.
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Thank you. Every time they needed to blitz they didn't. Important 3rd downs and they send 3 or 4.correction "very generic"and you are exactly right.. they have NO pass rush.. all the more reason that you need to more aggressively mix up your defensive calls.. and you don't need ten fingers to count how few times SD has sent more than 4 after the QB.. not a good idea when the 4 you DO rush every play aren't getting close..They haven't been generic. SD just doesn't have a good pass rush. The last Pitt game was a bit of a fluke. I think AJ was planning on getting rid of Merriman to tell you the truth, but probably not anymore.should be a knucklebuster...I have to believe the Ravens' Dee won't be nearly as generic as SD has been..
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
rothlisburger come back in?
jonessed
Footballguy
Weddle got pancaked everytime he went in and the Steelers run offense limited blitzing opportunities outside of the obvious third and long situations.correction "very generic"and you are exactly right.. they have NO pass rush.. all the more reason that you need to more aggressively mix up your defensive calls.. and you don't need ten fingers to count how few times SD has sent more than 4 after the QB.. not a good idea when the 4 you DO rush every play aren't getting close..They haven't been generic. SD just doesn't have a good pass rush. The last Pitt game was a bit of a fluke. I think AJ was planning on getting rid of Merriman to tell you the truth, but probably not anymore.should be a knucklebuster...I have to believe the Ravens' Dee won't be nearly as generic as SD has been..
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Assuming the Iggles get in...I think AZ can give them a good game.
Alrighty, I'm done here. Good game Steelers. You gotta be happy about the way your O played today and your special teams. The two things I thought SD could controll they didn't.
Good luck next week. I really dislike the Ravens so be a good host and pound them into the dirt.
Good luck next week. I really dislike the Ravens so be a good host and pound them into the dirt.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Especially Troy. He was guessing at least a handful of times out there, and it showed. Plus, that missed tackle on Gates on third and long was vintage "bad game Troy." Trying to line him up for a knock out blow instead of just making sure he secured the tackle. Not that it really mattered by then, but it was still sloppy.Thankfully, it was in a game where the OL decided that it was time to show up. Great win, and best of all no one got dinged up. I think Roeth only got knocked down maybe once or twice. That's big only 2 weeks removed from the concussion. He looked fantastic, especially at the end of the 1st half and that entire third quarter.Only real problem I had with anything on Pittsburgh's side of the ball were the ridiculous fake punt call and the assanine call to give it to Carey Davis on 4th and inches. Everyone and their brother smelled that one coming. Just let Ben keep it and fall forward. Darnell Stapleton getting 2 false starts at home kinda chapped me too.Two things I have to mention, just cuz.....1. Darren Sproles has gotta be one of the fastest looking football players, in a straight line, I've ever seen run. Maybe that wouldn't be born out on a stopwatch, but he looks like he's breaking the sound barrier when he's going in a straight line.2. That pass that Byron Leftwich threw to Sweed(which he promptly dropped
) may have been one of the most awesome I've ever seen thrown at any level in any game. Laser beam from about 40 yards away and he put i there on-the-edge-of-a-knife perfect for Sweed to catch in stride. It didn't even look like he was trying, either. More like he just flipped it.
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timschochet
Footballguy
What a weird year it's been. Remember two months ago when the one question was who was a better team, the Giants or the Titans?
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I don't know how the Steelers do it. Defense of course, but none of the offensive or special teams pieces are really noticeable, yet they come together to have the whole equal more than the sum of its parts. That kind of team is fun to cheer for if you are a fan because it allows you to believe in all the great stuff about sport. It allows you to see teamwork, selflessness, and sometimes even love elevate play. That's good stuff.
timschochet
Footballguy
If the Steelers can get their 6th Superbowl title this year, it would accomplish several things:
1. The Steelers would be the greatest franchise of the modern football era (since the merger) surpassing the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers.
2. The Steelers would compete with New England for team of the decade.
3. Ben Roethlisberger, with two Superbowl rings, would have to be considered one of the best in the game.
1. The Steelers would be the greatest franchise of the modern football era (since the merger) surpassing the Dallas Cowboys and San Francisco 49ers.
2. The Steelers would compete with New England for team of the decade.
3. Ben Roethlisberger, with two Superbowl rings, would have to be considered one of the best in the game.
Idiot Boxer
Footballguy
Hey. Its my birthday too. Sorry you didn't get your wish, but I did.Hoping for a Chargers upset win for my birthday. Hoping for a good game from both sides (every other game has been so sloppy).Hoping both Bolt fans and Steeler fans keep it civil in this thread today!Good luck gents, let's get it on!
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
The offensive line was just terrific today. My sincere hope is that they've finally gelled and not simply that San Diego's front was that miserable, but there were huge holes for Willie to run through and Ben had all day to throw on almost every drop-back. This offense looked like the Steelers offense I know for about the first time all year.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
They were and it did, and I don't think/sincerely hope it was an accident necessarily.I haven't rewatched any of the game again yet, but did anyone else notice, or at least think, that there were more plays being run out of the I-formation? Parker has politicked for more of that since they stopped using it so much going back to last year. Maybe they're finally giving in some and realizing that they just aren't built to run the lion's share of their running plays using Arians' ZBS. They aren't really a "power" running OL anymore either, but they're a helluva a lot closer to that than they are to a ZBS OL.They still left some plays out there again in the running game, but nowhere near like they've been doing. When's the last time we've seen Parker get to the corner with a head of steam? Saw it two or three times today. Hell, maybe it's just because he's finally healthy again and they're running the same plays they have been all year. Who knows?They have GOT to do better in short yardage at the GL though. No two ways about that.
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treat88
Footballguy
Arians called a great second half.Trusting Carey Davis in key situations was not a part of it. That is as bad as it gets.We need a mid round pick at the FB/H-back position.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Props to SD and their fans.....I've never had any beef with the org or their fans... after going 4-8, but then winning out and then knocking off Indy in OT.... I know it's small consolation now, but that's a nice run to end your season.
Bring on the Ravens....I expect a level 11 brawl next week.
Bring on the Ravens....I expect a level 11 brawl next week.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Outside of that one call, and the fake punt(which I assume would come from Tomlin anyway), he DID do a far better job than he has most of this year. Even his redzone calls, especially at the end of the first half, weren't his typical head-scratching stuff. He totally screwed the pooch on that 4th and inches call though. Practically EVERYONE who was watching here called it too, SD and Steeler fans alike, almost jokingly. "Watch him get cute and try giving it to Davis."You needed 2 damn inches and your QB weighs about 250. If there's a better time to call his # I don't know what it is.
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Reg Lllama of Brixton
Footballguy
Get it? No 'D', no 'O'?Reg Lllama of Brixton said:
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
stick with the poop jokes, groucho.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
UGH!!!!!!
BoltBacker
Footballguy
Well, if it had to end somewhere there's certainly no shame in losing in PIT. Congratulation Steeler fans and good luck moving forward.
The season was a disappointment(really, it is for 31 teams every year) but I'd like to come away from it thinking SD has a solid chance to contend if they can just put some more solid pieces around Rivers. Gates starting next season healthy would be a huge part of that equation and is probable imo.
The season was a disappointment(really, it is for 31 teams every year) but I'd like to come away from it thinking SD has a solid chance to contend if they can just put some more solid pieces around Rivers. Gates starting next season healthy would be a huge part of that equation and is probable imo.
Hey. Its my birthday too. Sorry you didn't get your wish, but I did.Hoping for a Chargers upset win for my birthday. Hoping for a good game from both sides (every other game has been so sloppy).Hoping both Bolt fans and Steeler fans keep it civil in this thread today!Good luck gents, let's get it on!
I told my family at dinner that there must have been more Steeler fans with birthday's today than Charger fans.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I think anyone who with two eyes, and who is actually objective, knows this already.
24 points allowed. That already is gonna make it tough to match the overall points allowed numbers of the defenses oft-considered the best of all-time.Ghost Rider said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
the score was 28 - 10. even the best off all time allow garbage time pointsI think anyone who with two eyes, and who is actually objective, knows this already.24 points allowed. That already is gonna make it tough to match the overall points allowed numbers of the defenses oft-considered the best of all-time.Ghost Rider said:15 yards rushing.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Wille Parker being healthy makes all the difference in the world.
Steelers4Life
Footballguy
Exactly. The Chargers got the early TD, and did nothing else at all on offense until the middle of the 4th quarter except a 20 yard drive for a field that started in Pittsburgh territory because of the muffed fake punt.Garbage points still count, but the defense played a tremendous game yesterday until the game was far out of reach.the score was 28 - 10. even the best off all time allow garbage time pointsI think anyone who with two eyes, and who is actually objective, knows this already.24 points allowed. That already is gonna make it tough to match the overall points allowed numbers of the defenses oft-considered the best of all-time.Ghost Rider said:15 yards rushing.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I have to think that holding a team to less than 20 seconds TOP in a quarter is a record.
The Jerk
Footballguy
I don't care all that much about the "all-time greatest defense" debates in the middle of the playoff season, but since you bring it up, surely there is a little more to the argument then just how many points are allowed in playoff games. Certainly points allowed would be an important statistic in an analysis of this sort, but the quality of the opposition should matter, too, as should the margin of victory especially in a pass-friendly era.Really, the argument for being an all-time great defense starts with a championship. Then it progresses to observations of why a team was successful, i.e. did the defense carry the team? Finally, statistics can be analyzed to consider a place in history.Of course, exactly what is meant by AN all-time great defense but not THE all-time greatest defense matters, too.
treat88
Footballguy
Not to mention 15 yards rushing. Total.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Detroit Lions has like -2 yards rushing VS. Green Bay in a playoff game with Barry Sanders once
