DJ Ware NYG RB (1 Viewer)

[kimbosliced]

Some in the media are saying that Brandon Jacobs maybe getting phased out of the backfield in NYG--maybe Coughlin has had enough of his mouth?

With Bradshaw's current injury to his same surgically repaired foot, is DJ Ware worth a flier? I guess the belongs in the banking on second string RBs thread. But, I wanted to devoted a single thread to this guy if someone with Giants knowledge can shed some more light. Thanks guys.

 

[netnalp]

The Giants haven't been very effective running the ball this year except for one game. If Bradshaw couldn't play, Jacobs would get the bulk of the carries. Ware would come in to give him a breather. Some will argue that Ware could get the passing downs and 3rd down carries, I don't think that would be the case. The Giants have shown that they are willing to throw passes to Jacobs and he does get 3rd down carries when he and Bradshaw are alternating series.

Jacobs comments don't mean much, he likes to gripe but usually doesn't have a valid argument. He claims he hasn't been used much but the ground game hasn't been very good, thus limiting how much the team runs and he's been hurt lately. He's not being phased out, the team just hasn't shown they can move the chains on the ground so there has been less opportunity.

If Bradshaw were out, I'd project Ware to get enough touches to get a combined yardage of about 40-60 yards through 7-10 carries 3-5 passing targets.

Da'Rel Scott would probably get in for 5 plays, but he could end up just blocking and wouldn't necessarily be the focus of the play.

Another argument will be, if Nicks misses time the Giants will need to run more. The problem is, again, the line hasn't been very good at opening things up for the running game.

PFF has said Diehl is the weak link on the line, but Coughlin and the beat writers have said that it looks like errors are being made by others along the line and Diehl has looked bad when he's been trying to adjust and make blocks that weren't his assignment.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/02/32-teams-32-observations-9/

New York Giants: Center Davis Baas has just a -1.0 overall rating, but that’s still good for the second best linemen on the roster.

 

[Instinctive]

Is he going by DJ or Danny this year? I want to know because I feel like it changes on all the sites year-to-year and I tend to agree with the assessment above

 

[netnalp]

Is he going by DJ or Danny this year? I want to know because I feel like it changes on all the sites year-to-year and I tend to agree with the assessment above

DJ on the official Giants site according to the roster list.

 

[Bronx Bomber]

I've heard announcers call him Danny but he should be the only NYG RB named Ware on your site (if that's what you were asking). And I agree with the posting above about the touches distribution. Nice analysis.

 

[zoonation]

I see Ware getting more carries than hypothesized above if Bradshaw is out. Jacobs is not a pass-catching back. Sure he gets one here and there, but he is not used in that role. Combine the fact that the Giants will be throwing a ton this game and I think you see Ware out there for at least 40-50% of the snaps.

 

[meatwad1]

The problem with Ware is that he sucks. Jacobs will get a shot at close to a full load and will continue to get that if he produces.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Ware will get his share of the carries from here on out depending on if Bradshaw gets shut down. He's an add right now, think about it later, type. Certainly worth a flier over the last man on your roster.

 

[shnikies]

The Jacobs who missed two weeks recently because of swelling in his knee will receive 15+ touches? Good luck with that.

 

[groin pains]

I see Ware getting more carries than hypothesized above if Bradshaw is out. Jacobs is not a pass-catching back. Sure he gets one here and there, but he is not used in that role. Combine the fact that the Giants will be throwing a ton this game and I think you see Ware out there for at least 40-50% of the snaps.

This is the point I was trying to make in another thread. I actually see a split in carries. Some fantasy sites are predicting 18-20 touches for Jacobs. I guess they do not remember that he missed two games with a bad knee and played last week with two braces. I would guess Ware would be the add. Although, if you have the room grab Scott as well and see how this plays out.

 

[Maven]

DJ Ware is the real pickup here. Jacobs is banged up, battling injuries, was uninterested in the Giants and now is interested again because of opportunity? Yeah right ... this joker will get injured again like he always does. DJ Ware is younger, has fresher legs and is healthy.

 

[kimbosliced]

I just looked at Scott's preseason stats much more impressive than both Ware and Jacobs' stats..anything to see here?

 

[Sabertooth]

 

[netnalp]

I just looked at Scott's preseason stats much more impressive than both Ware and Jacobs' stats..anything to see here?

I like Scott over Ware. I think Jacobs gets the bulk of the carries with Ware, Hynoski and Scott getting a few more touches. Most of the regular season plays Scott has been on has been as a pass protector. I think it's mainly to get him reps doing that, because it's not like Ware needed a breather with how little he touches the ball. If Bradshaw needs surgery, and with Jacobs tendency to get hurt, I think Scott has the ability to jump past Ware.

 

[steelwind]

I just looked at Scott's preseason stats much more impressive than both Ware and Jacobs' stats..anything to see here?

I like Scott over Ware. I think Jacobs gets the bulk of the carries with Ware, Hynoski and Scott getting a few more touches. Most of the regular season plays Scott has been on has been as a pass protector. I think it's mainly to get him reps doing that, because it's not like Ware needed a breather with how little he touches the ball. If Bradshaw needs surgery, and with Jacobs tendency to get hurt, I think Scott has the ability to jump past Ware.

You are unaware of Coach Caughlin's tendencies. I'll enlighten you. Giants coach never trusts a rookie. It's been like that ever since he became head coach. Last year he had an opportunity to stick Victor Cruz in the lineup when Steve Smith went down. Nope. This year, Cruz no longer a rookie, is finally getting playing time. The pecking order is Jacobs, Ware then someone off the street if Bradshaw misses time. We'll see Scott next year for you dynasty leagues.

 

[PahtyTom]

I just looked at Scott's preseason stats much more impressive than both Ware and Jacobs' stats..anything to see here?

I like Scott over Ware. I think Jacobs gets the bulk of the carries with Ware, Hynoski and Scott getting a few more touches. Most of the regular season plays Scott has been on has been as a pass protector. I think it's mainly to get him reps doing that, because it's not like Ware needed a breather with how little he touches the ball. If Bradshaw needs surgery, and with Jacobs tendency to get hurt, I think Scott has the ability to jump past Ware.

You are unaware of Coach Caughlin's tendencies. I'll enlighten you. Giants coach never trusts a rookie. It's been like that ever since he became head coach. Last year he had an opportunity to stick Victor Cruz in the lineup when Steve Smith went down. Nope. This year, Cruz no longer a rookie, is finally getting playing time. The pecking order is Jacobs, Ware then someone off the street if Bradshaw misses time. We'll see Scott next year for you dynasty leagues.

Jacobs had 7 TDs as a rookie. As a rookie in 2007, Bradshaw had 48 carries in the 4 postseason games (including the super bowl). That sounds pretty trusting.

 

[netnalp]

I just looked at Scott's preseason stats much more impressive than both Ware and Jacobs' stats..anything to see here?

I like Scott over Ware. I think Jacobs gets the bulk of the carries with Ware, Hynoski and Scott getting a few more touches. Most of the regular season plays Scott has been on has been as a pass protector. I think it's mainly to get him reps doing that, because it's not like Ware needed a breather with how little he touches the ball. If Bradshaw needs surgery, and with Jacobs tendency to get hurt, I think Scott has the ability to jump past Ware.

You are unaware of Coach Caughlin's tendencies. I'll enlighten you. Giants coach never trusts a rookie. It's been like that ever since he became head coach. Last year he had an opportunity to stick Victor Cruz in the lineup when Steve Smith went down. Nope. This year, Cruz no longer a rookie, is finally getting playing time. The pecking order is Jacobs, Ware then someone off the street if Bradshaw misses time. We'll see Scott next year for you dynasty leagues.

I'll enlighten you. Cruz was placed on season ending IR Oct. 16th last year, S. Smith didn't miss a game till week 10 last year. JPP played last season as a rookie. In 2007 during the playoff run, Bradshaw, Boss and Alford all rookies made big contributions. Aaron Ross started 9 games as a rookie in 2007. Nicks started 6 games and played in 14 his rookie year. Kenny Phillips started 3 games and played in 16 his rookie year. Kiwanuka started 9 games, played 16 as a rookie. Prince should be on the field this week or the next and could get significant playing time as a rookie.Seems you might be confusing Coughlin's not having the need to start a rookie with an unwillingness to do so. In most cases, except for Nicks and Phillips, there were more talented players in the starting spots at the time.I don't recall there being times during Coughlin's tenure (2004-present) where he has sat a more talented rookie and played a lesser talented veteran. I don't recall any situations like Charles had in KC sitting behind T. Jones.

 

[packersfan]

If Bradshaw were out, I'd project Ware to get enough touches to get a combined yardage of about 40-60 yards through 7-10 carries 3-5 passing targets.

That looks like a decent RB3 in PPR leagues. The matchup would appear to favor the possibility Ware contributes in the passing game. The Patriots' defense has shown the ability at times to slow down the run but they can't stop the pass at all. The Giants might be down Nicks but they could still look to throw a lot Sunday and if that's the case, I'd guess Ware would be more involved in the passing game than Jacobs. That's just a hunch based primarily on Jacobs not being much of a threat there in my opinion.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Looks like a 3way RBBC to me with Jacobs getting the most, 12-15 carries per game

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Scott > Ware by a large margin in dynasty leagues and may even end up more valuable in redrafts as well.

 

[Whitney26]

Ware would get the first without a doubt. Scott, however, is far more talented. Hopefully, he'll get an opportunity to do something. It's me, but I'll take my chance on the guy with the upside....Scott.

 

[habsfan]

Ware would get the first without a doubt. Scott, however, is far more talented. Hopefully, he'll get an opportunity to do something. It's me, but I'll take my chance on the guy with the upside....Scott.

So if you need help in the short term (for the short term) grab Ware. If you can take a longer view, grab Scott.

 

[packersfan]

Bradshaw ruled out today so Ware's the No. 2 RB. Any projections for how he may do tomorrow against the Pats?

 

[ldizzle]

So jacobs has a hammy issue that was reported and brashaw is playing with a broken foot. I havent seen him so dont know if hes looked good or not but he could be a good desperate pickup for those needy of a rb

 

[Bronx Bomber]

If Jacobs is limited or inactive than it will be the Bradshaw show assuming his foot is not an issue.

Ware will come in to give Bradsaw rest but prob won't get more than what he has been getting these past few weeks.