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Do "dawn" and "don" rhyme? (1 Viewer)

Do "dawn" and "don" rhyme?

  • Yes

    Votes: 63 34.4%
  • No

    Votes: 120 65.6%

  • Total voters
    183
How else can you pronounce Don? My relatives in Mass would say "McDawnOwlds" but everyone outside that area knows how ridiculous that Mass accent is. Don has a "ahhh" in it. Dahhhn. It sounds nothing like Dawn (awww). The same sound it in the word "pot". It is not pronounced "pawt" it's "pahhht" with an "ahhh" sound. As in "open up and say ahhh".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Don

click the sound over and over until your ear can pick it up. Don Don Don (keep clicking) Don Don Don. Train yourself to hear how it should sound.
My ear picks it up as a mispronunciation created by your accent. Most people say Don as Don, which is how you say Dawn. You've acquired this Dahn thing that you do instead of Don, but you probably don't say dawwwwn like a New Yorker. I've chosen to acquire neither the Chicahhhgo Dahn nor the New York Dawwwwn, while also eschewing the Bostonian pahk the cahhh, because I think all of those accents sound horrendous. I understand your desire to defend your accent, but please don't try to defend it as "proper English".
 
How else can you pronounce Don? My relatives in Mass would say "McDawnOwlds" but everyone outside that area knows how ridiculous that Mass accent is. Don has a "ahhh" in it. Dahhhn. It sounds nothing like Dawn (awww). The same sound it in the word "pot". It is not pronounced "pawt" it's "pahhht" with an "ahhh" sound. As in "open up and say ahhh".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Don

click the sound over and over until your ear can pick it up. Don Don Don (keep clicking) Don Don Don. Train yourself to hear how it should sound.
My ear picks it up as a mispronunciation created by your accent. Most people say Don as Don, which is how you say Dawn. You've acquired this Dahn thing that you do instead of Don, but you probably don't say dawwwwn like a New Yorker. I've chosen to acquire neither the Chicahhhgo Dahn nor the New York Dawwwwn, while also eschewing the Bostonian pahk the cahhh, because I think all of those accents sound horrendous. I understand your desire to defend your accent, but please don't try to defend it as "proper English".
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
 
How else can you pronounce Don? My relatives in Mass would say "McDawnOwlds" but everyone outside that area knows how ridiculous that Mass accent is. Don has a "ahhh" in it. Dahhhn. It sounds nothing like Dawn (awww). The same sound it in the word "pot". It is not pronounced "pawt" it's "pahhht" with an "ahhh" sound. As in "open up and say ahhh".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Don

click the sound over and over until your ear can pick it up. Don Don Don (keep clicking) Don Don Don. Train yourself to hear how it should sound.
My ear picks it up as a mispronunciation created by your accent. Most people say Don as Don, which is how you say Dawn. You've acquired this Dahn thing that you do instead of Don, but you probably don't say dawwwwn like a New Yorker. I've chosen to acquire neither the Chicahhhgo Dahn nor the New York Dawwwwn, while also eschewing the Bostonian pahk the cahhh, because I think all of those accents sound horrendous. I understand your desire to defend your accent, but please don't try to defend it as "proper English".
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
Wait, I heard it that time. He's saying Dawn.
 
How else can you pronounce Don? My relatives in Mass would say "McDawnOwlds" but everyone outside that area knows how ridiculous that Mass accent is. Don has a "ahhh" in it. Dahhhn. It sounds nothing like Dawn (awww). The same sound it in the word "pot". It is not pronounced "pawt" it's "pahhht" with an "ahhh" sound. As in "open up and say ahhh".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Don

click the sound over and over until your ear can pick it up. Don Don Don (keep clicking) Don Don Don. Train yourself to hear how it should sound.
My ear picks it up as a mispronunciation created by your accent. Most people say Don as Don, which is how you say Dawn. You've acquired this Dahn thing that you do instead of Don, but you probably don't say dawwwwn like a New Yorker. I've chosen to acquire neither the Chicahhhgo Dahn nor the New York Dawwwwn, while also eschewing the Bostonian pahk the cahhh, because I think all of those accents sound horrendous. I understand your desire to defend your accent, but please don't try to defend it as "proper English".
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
Wait, I heard it that time. He's saying Dawn.
He's not. Your ear is off. I understand how you can hear him saying "dawn" but he's not. It's the same o that's in "pot" ahhhh. Keep clicking. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
 
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
Wait, I heard it that time. He's saying Dawn.
He's not. Your ear is off. I understand how you can hear him saying "dawn" but he's not. It's the same o that's in "pot" ahhhh. Keep clicking. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
No, I hear it. I just say Dawn that way, too. Dawn is the word he's saying with an accent, by the way. He says it like doe-uhn. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Dawn

Listen to it. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Totally unnecessary elongation of the syllable with a whiny awwww sound in it.

Aaron, on the other hand, says Don like Dahhhn, with more of a shortened but still nasal twang to it. That's every bit as grating, but I understand what he's saying.

 
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
Wait, I heard it that time. He's saying Dawn.
He's not. Your ear is off. I understand how you can hear him saying "dawn" but he's not. It's the same o that's in "pot" ahhhh. Keep clicking. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
No, I hear it. I just say Dawn that way, too. Dawn is the word he's saying with an accent, by the way. He says it like doe-uhn. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Dawn

Listen to it. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Totally unnecessary elongation of the syllable with a whiny awwww sound in it.

Aaron, on the other hand, says Don like Dahhhn, with more of a shortened but still nasal twang to it. That's every bit as grating, but I understand what he's saying.
There is an "aww" in dawn. If there wasn't it wouldn't be spelled with a W. Dawwwwwwwwn. Dahhhhhhhhhn. Awwww, look at the dawn. Don, open up and say ahhhh. Say it out loud "awww"...now say "ahhh". Back and forth. See what your mouth/face is doing? They are nowhere near the same sounds. There is no accent, no strange additions, only the way the words are meant to be said. Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.

 
Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.
:shrug:
 
Hoart Petterson said:
bostonfred said:
Hoart Petterson said:
bostonfred said:
Hoart Petterson said:
Keep clicking the guy saying it in that link. You'll hear it. Click it over and over. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
Wait, I heard it that time. He's saying Dawn.
He's not. Your ear is off. I understand how you can hear him saying "dawn" but he's not. It's the same o that's in "pot" ahhhh. Keep clicking. Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don Don
No, I hear it. I just say Dawn that way, too. Dawn is the word he's saying with an accent, by the way. He says it like doe-uhn. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Dawn

Listen to it. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Doe-uhn. Totally unnecessary elongation of the syllable with a whiny awwww sound in it.

Aaron, on the other hand, says Don like Dahhhn, with more of a shortened but still nasal twang to it. That's every bit as grating, but I understand what he's saying.
There is an "aww" in dawn. If there wasn't it wouldn't be spelled with a W. Dawwwwwwwwn. Dahhhhhhhhhn. Awwww, look at the dawn. Don, open up and say ahhhh. Say it out loud "awww"...now say "ahhh". Back and forth. See what your mouth/face is doing? They are nowhere near the same sounds. There is no accent, no strange additions, only the way the words are meant to be said. Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.
:lmao: Why would Don Knotts turn around when the director called for Maryanne???

Now you're trying to tell me don = Maryanne. Crazy.

 
Hoart Petterson said:
There is an "aww" in dawn. If there wasn't it wouldn't be spelled with a W. Dawwwwwwwwn. Dahhhhhhhhhn. Awwww, look at the dawn. Don, open up and say ahhhh. Say it out loud "awww"...now say "ahhh". Back and forth. See what your mouth/face is doing? They are nowhere near the same sounds. There is no accent, no strange additions, only the way the words are meant to be said. Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.
I know you said you pronounce Don like Dahn. I don't know how much you overpronounce the aw in Dawn. If you pronounce it like Aaron, you're pronouncing it like I say Don. If you pronounce it like a New Yorker, then you say Doe-uhn, and both of your pronunciations for Dawn and Don are different from my Don, which is identical to my Dawn. The important thing to realize is that, in all of these scenarios, we're busily talking about which accent you use, and trying to understand the confusion people might have because of that accent, or the confusion you would have because you believe that your accent, and not Aaron's, or Otis', or Ignoratio's, or the homeless volunteer from freedictionary.com, is the right one. My Don and Dawn don't cause confusion, except among people like you who choose to make them sound different from one another. Your choice to make the words sound that way is causing you difficulty. I don't see how that's a compelling reason for me to think that this is proper English.
 
Hoart Petterson said:
There is an "aww" in dawn. If there wasn't it wouldn't be spelled with a W. Dawwwwwwwwn. Dahhhhhhhhhn. Awwww, look at the dawn. Don, open up and say ahhhh. Say it out loud "awww"...now say "ahhh". Back and forth. See what your mouth/face is doing? They are nowhere near the same sounds. There is no accent, no strange additions, only the way the words are meant to be said. Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.
I know you said you pronounce Don like Dahn. I don't know how much you overpronounce the aw in Dawn. If you pronounce it like Aaron, you're pronouncing it like I say Don. If you pronounce it like a New Yorker, then you say Doe-uhn, and both of your pronunciations for Dawn and Don are different from my Don, which is identical to my Dawn. The important thing to realize is that, in all of these scenarios, we're busily talking about which accent you use, and trying to understand the confusion people might have because of that accent, or the confusion you would have because you believe that your accent, and not Aaron's, or Otis', or Ignoratio's, or the homeless volunteer from freedictionary.com, is the right one. My Don and Dawn don't cause confusion, except among people like you who choose to make them sound different from one another. Your choice to make the words sound that way is causing you difficulty. I don't see how that's a compelling reason for me to think that this is proper English.
If you say "don" the way Aaron says "dawn" then you have a Mass accent. The vowel sound in Don is EXACTLY the same as the vowel sound in "pot" or "hot". It's an "ahhh". Take a deep breath and relax and let out a nice "ahhhh". There, you got it.
 
Hoart Petterson said:
There is an "aww" in dawn. If there wasn't it wouldn't be spelled with a W. Dawwwwwwwwn. Dahhhhhhhhhn. Awwww, look at the dawn. Don, open up and say ahhhh. Say it out loud "awww"...now say "ahhh". Back and forth. See what your mouth/face is doing? They are nowhere near the same sounds. There is no accent, no strange additions, only the way the words are meant to be said. Maryanne and Ralph Furley did a Love Boat once. When the director called out for MaryAnne (Dawn Wells) did Ol' RF (Don Knotts) turn around too? Only if he was almost deaf which is entirely possible. If he wasn't, he wouldn't have turned around and would have kept gazing into the fake ocean.
I know you said you pronounce Don like Dahn. I don't know how much you overpronounce the aw in Dawn. If you pronounce it like Aaron, you're pronouncing it like I say Don. If you pronounce it like a New Yorker, then you say Doe-uhn, and both of your pronunciations for Dawn and Don are different from my Don, which is identical to my Dawn. The important thing to realize is that, in all of these scenarios, we're busily talking about which accent you use, and trying to understand the confusion people might have because of that accent, or the confusion you would have because you believe that your accent, and not Aaron's, or Otis', or Ignoratio's, or the homeless volunteer from freedictionary.com, is the right one. My Don and Dawn don't cause confusion, except among people like you who choose to make them sound different from one another. Your choice to make the words sound that way is causing you difficulty. I don't see how that's a compelling reason for me to think that this is proper English.
If you say "don" the way Aaron says "dawn" then you have a Mass accent. The vowel sound in Don is EXACTLY the same as the vowel sound in "pot" or "hot". It's an "ahhh". Take a deep breath and relax and let out a nice "ahhhh". There, you got it.
You can hear exactly how I say Dawn and Don. I replied directly to you with a youtube of it. That is not a Massachusetts accent. It is proper English, as spoken by people around the country. I don't pahk the cah in Hahvahd Yahd, I don't say Doe-uhn like a New Yorker, and I don't say Dahn like a Chicagonian. I say the o in pot the same as the o in don, and the aw in dawn, because they are the same sound in unaccented English.
 
This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
 
This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
Interesting, but I've got a secret for you. I said Don and Don. I didn't say Don and Dawn. So if you perceive a difference, it's because you want to hear it.
 
This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
Interesting, but I've got a secret for you. I said Don and Don. I didn't say Don and Dawn. So if you perceive a difference, it's because you want to hear it.
You keep believing that. You eased up on the "w" in don whether it was intentional or not. It comes back out when you say Lawn. You may have attempted to say the same thing but you didn't. The unconscious mind always wins....and your accent is thicker than you believe it is. It may not sound like the people you grew up with but to someone with perfect diction, it's sounds like Rocky Balboa addressing Parliament.
 
This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
Interesting, but I've got a secret for you. I said Don and Don. I didn't say Don and Dawn. So if you perceive a difference, it's because you want to hear it.
You keep believing that. You eased up on the "w" in don whether it was intentional or not. It comes back out when you say Lawn. You may have attempted to say the same thing but you didn't. The unconscious mind always wins....and your accent is thicker than you believe it is. It may not sound like the people you grew up with but to someone with perfect diction, it's sounds like Rocky Balboa addressing Parliament.
The only part that changed was I said A, and B. A, and B. A.... A, and B... That's it. But you've got the Italian and Philadelphian parts nailed. The name bostonfred didn't fool you for a second.
 
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This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
Interesting, but I've got a secret for you. I said Don and Don. I didn't say Don and Dawn. So if you perceive a difference, it's because you want to hear it.
:lmao: bostonfred is doing the lord's work here.
 
This is me. Listen to how I say Don. It's almost identical to hers. Aaron makes the case I should say it with a little more a in it, and I disagree with it.
OK. Got it. You say them fine. You just can't even hear the difference even when you say it yourself. You're saying Don and Dawn differently in that video. It's a little more subtle just given your accent (and you DO have one), but the difference is most certainly there. /thread
Interesting, but I've got a secret for you. I said Don and Don. I didn't say Don and Dawn. So if you perceive a difference, it's because you want to hear it.
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GDogg said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
WTF is wrong with you people?Harry does not rhyme with hairy.
I can't even fathom a way these two words would sound different.
Hairy = Hair reeHarry = Ha(ve) reeMarry and Mary are the exact same. No two ways about it.
Harry is a nickname for Harold (pronounced "hair old"). Why would you suddenly change the pronunciation of the Har in Harold when going with the nickname?
You prounounce Harold like Herald?
 
GDogg said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
WTF is wrong with you people?Harry does not rhyme with hairy.
I can't even fathom a way these two words would sound different.
Hairy = Hair reeHarry = Ha(ve) reeMarry and Mary are the exact same. No two ways about it.
Harry is a nickname for Harold (pronounced "hair old"). Why would you suddenly change the pronunciation of the Har in Harold when going with the nickname?
You prounounce Harold like Herald?
You pronounce herald 'hairald'?
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
bostonfred said:
So I contend that my way - saying them the same - is ... functionally preferable.
I defy you to defend this.
The guy and girl sounding the same...in what world is that more ***tional than the distinguised way?
 
bostonfred said:
Hoart Petterson said:
How else can you pronounce Don? My relatives in Mass would say "McDawnOwlds" but everyone outside that area knows how ridiculous that Mass accent is. Don has a "ahhh" in it. Dahhhn. It sounds nothing like Dawn (awww). The same sound it in the word "pot". It is not pronounced "pawt" it's "pahhht" with an "ahhh" sound. As in "open up and say ahhh".

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Don

click the sound over and over until your ear can pick it up. Don Don Don (keep clicking) Don Don Don. Train yourself to hear how it should sound.
My ear picks it up as a mispronunciation created by your accent. Most people say Don as Don, which is how you say Dawn. You've acquired this Dahn thing that you do instead of Don, but you probably don't say dawwwwn like a New Yorker. I've chosen to acquire neither the Chicahhhgo Dahn nor the New York Dawwwwn, while also eschewing the Bostonian pahk the cahhh, because I think all of those accents sound horrendous. I understand your desire to defend your accent, but please don't try to defend it as "proper English".
My accent is Irish...Dawn has a long aww sound. Don has a short on sound.
 
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
bostonfred said:
So I contend that my way - saying them the same - is ... functionally preferable.
I defy you to defend this.
The guy and girl sounding the same...in what world is that more ***tional than the distinguised way?
Oh I don't know, perhaps using context to determine meaning, like most were taught in grammar school.
I already have three Dons. I don't need to lose a Dawn in there too.
 
GDogg said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
I can't even fathom a way these two words would sound different.
Hairy = Hair reeHarry = Ha(ve) reeMarry and Mary are the exact same. No two ways about it.
Harry is a nickname for Harold (pronounced "hair old"). Why would you suddenly change the pronunciation of the Har in Harold when going with the nickname?
You prounounce Harold like Herald?
You pronounce herald 'hairald'?
Yes. And HArold like a pirate arrr sound. Harrrrrold. :confused: Yes
 
GDogg said:
Aaron Rudnicki said:
Ignoratio Elenchi said:
WTF is wrong with you people?Harry does not rhyme with hairy.
I can't even fathom a way these two words would sound different.
Hairy = Hair reeHarry = Ha(ve) reeMarry and Mary are the exact same. No two ways about it.
Harry is a nickname for Harold (pronounced "hair old"). Why would you suddenly change the pronunciation of the Har in Harold when going with the nickname?
You prounounce Harold like Herald?
I wrote my pronunciation in the previous post, but now that you mention it, I do pronounce them more or less the same.
 
Let's say you happen to have kids and name your son Don and your daughter Dawn. One day your wife comes home and says "where are the kids?"

Your response: "Dawn is at the movies and might need a ride later. Don is shopping."

If you pronounce them exactly the same, your wife has no idea who needs a ride.

 
Let's say you happen to have kids and name your son Don and your daughter Dawn. One day your wife comes home and says "where are the kids?"Your response: "Dawn is at the movies and might need a ride later. Don is shopping."If you pronounce them exactly the same, your wife has no idea who needs a ride.
That's the least of your problems. Your kids hate you because you are bad parents, and your wife is as dumb as you are. I don't see a lot of good outcomes for you in life, so a one time confusion about the location of two children who are apparently old enough to go off on their own to the mall or the movies really is the least of your concern.
 
Let's say you happen to have kids and name your son Don and your daughter Dawn. One day your wife comes home and says "where are the kids?"Your response: "Dawn is at the movies and might need a ride later. Don is shopping."If you pronounce them exactly the same, your wife has no idea who needs a ride.
Sure she does. The one at the movies needs a ride. Doesn't really matter which one. You think she's going to pull up to the movie theater looking for Don but when she only sees Dawn she's going to drive away without letting her in?
 

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