Do you approve of this administration's job performance at the 7 month mark? (1 Viewer)

[GordonGekko]

No, Trump's mistakes in Afghanistan had a direct effect on the crisis we're seeing. 

Biden is currently listed on the depth chart as QB1

QB1 gets all the credit when the team wins and all the blame when the team loses.

That's the deal. That's how it works.

What's amusing to me is this soft serve rationalization, if most of you tried this at your jobs, with food on the table for your kids on the line, a large number of you would get fired.

Men in this society are judged by deliverable results.

If any of you want to do and act and say things contrary to this at your own careers/jobs, what you are doing is admitting to your bosses that you don't believe you can deliver.

 

[pecorino]

I find this administration to be wholly uninspiring and, broad strokes, below average from the Prez/VP pairings of the past 50 years, maybe bottom quartile. Given a binary choice, I'd vote disapprove. Given a different metric such as a comparison between the current pairing versus the Republican alternative from the 2020 election, it'd be impossible to quantify how pleased I am with this choice. 

 

[Rubiobot]

Biden is currently listed on the depth chart as QB1

QB1 gets all the credit when the team wins and all the blame when the team loses.

That's the deal. That's how it works.

What's amusing to me is this soft serve rationalization, if most of you tried this at your jobs, with food on the table for your kids on the line, a large number of you would get fired.

Men in this society are judged by deliverable results.

If any of you want to do and act and say things contrary to this at your own careers/jobs, what you are doing is admitting to your bosses that you don't believe you can deliver.

QB1 with a new coaching staff and front office. Was one of the worst teams in football last year. Inherited a terrible situation because of terrible decisions made by the previous regime, which was the worst regime in history.

Oh by the way, you have to win the Super Bowl this year. Not next year or 5 years from now. This year. 

THAT'S how it works.

 

[knowledge dropper]

QB1 with a new coaching staff and front office. Was one of the worst teams in football last year. Inherited a terrible situation because of terrible decisions made by the previous regime, which was the worst regime in history.

Oh by the way, you have to win the Super Bowl this year. Not next year or 5 years from now. This year. 

THAT'S how it works.

The BUT TRUMP! is strong in this one. 

 

[BladeRunner]

The BUT TRUMP! is strong in this one. 

No kidding.  Trump gets free rent every hour of every day with him.  Trump has got him wrapped around his finger so much he can't admit to ANY responsibility for ANY-thing.

 

[RCon]

The BUT TRUMP! is strong in this one. 

Given that "but Trump" is so frowned upon, I assume we've seen the last of the "if Trump had done X, the left/media would have Y" posts?

 

[Summer Wheat]

QB1 with a new coaching staff and front office. Was one of the worst teams in football last year. Inherited a terrible situation because of terrible decisions made by the previous regime, which was the worst regime in history.

Oh by the way, you have to win the Super Bowl this year. Not next year or 5 years from now. This year. 

THAT'S how it works.

The world seems much more unsafe now than it did a year ago though. I think both are bad but Biden appears to be much weaker and the lack of respect around the globe is showing. I thought after Trump the kneejerk reactions were over but Biden is trumping Trump in that area.

 

[DropKick]

I find this administration to be wholly uninspiring and, broad strokes, below average from the Prez/VP pairings of the past 50 years, maybe bottom quartile. Given a binary choice, I'd vote disapprove. Given a different metric such as a comparison between the current pairing versus the Republican alternative from the 2020 election, it'd be impossible to quantify how pleased I am with this choice. 

So, in other words, its all about you and TDS... 

 

[Rubiobot]

No kidding.  Trump gets free rent every hour of every day with him.  Trump has got him wrapped around his finger so much he can't admit to ANY responsibility for ANY-thing.

For someone that claims (more like pretends) they aren't a Trump supporter, you sure trip all over yourself to defend him. 

 

[BladeRunner]

For someone that claims (more like pretends) they aren't a Trump supporter, you sure trip all over yourself to defend him. 

How is that supporting Trump?  That post was an observation on your constant usage of Trump to absolve your side from ANY kind of responsibility and accountability.

You, your side, The democrats and Biden all own this together.  It has ZERO to do with Trump.

 

[pecorino]

So, in other words, its all about you and TDS... 

I don't even know what that means. For me, it is about truth and integrity. But this is not about me, this is about the Biden administration, their work, and our alternatives. I'm not thrilled with any of those.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So he deserves the blame for Trump entering into a withdrawal agreement that excluded the Afghan government?   He deserves the blame for Trump releasing 5,000 Taliban fighters?  He deserves the blame for Trump reducing our troop presence from 13,000 to 2,500, with no plan to remove the final 2,500?

The Afghan government collapsed and fled, because Trump handed the country to the Taliban.  The Afghan military in many cases refused to fight.  

They both screwed this up.   They both deserve blame and criticism.   

The Trump-Taliban withdraw agreement was contingent a number of things, one being the Taliban and the Afgan Government negotiating a permanent cease fire.  Unless and until the agreement stipulations were met, the United States was under no obligation to withdraw.  Also, Biden being Commander-in-Chief could have, at any time in the 8 months he was President inserted more troops.  Especially after the Trump agreement conditions weren't met by the deadline.  If you want to blame Trump it would be 1% Trump and 99% Biden.

 

[Rubiobot]

The Trump-Taliban withdraw agreement was contingent a number of things, one being the Taliban and the Afgan Government negotiating a permanent cease fire.  Unless and until the agreement stipulations were met, the United States was under no obligation to withdraw.  Also, Biden being Commander-in-Chief could have, at any time in the 8 months he was President inserted more troops.  Especially after the Trump agreement conditions weren't met by the deadline.  If you want to blame Trump it would be 1% Trump and 99% Biden.

If Biden put troops back after withdrawng down to 2500 and after Trumps idiotic agreement with the Taliban it would have been a bloodbath.

 

[Snotbubbles]

If Biden put troops back after withdrawng down to 2500 and after Trumps idiotic agreement with the Taliban it would have been a bloodbath.

Speculation here.  You have no idea the effects.  Inserting more troops could have just as easily pushed the Taliban to negotiate with the Afgan government on a cease fire.  You see we can speculate all day long.  

 

[Rubiobot]

Speculation here.  You have no idea the effects.  Inserting more troops could have just as easily pushed the Taliban to negotiate with the Afgan government on a cease fire.  You see we can speculate all day long.  

Come on now...you can't possibly believe that. Regardless, there is no speculating how stupid it was to only leave 2500 troops to get everyone out, nor is there speculating how idiotic Trump's agreement was with the Taliban. 

 

[Snotbubbles]

Come on now...you can't possibly believe that. Regardless, there is no speculating how stupid it was to only leave 2500 troops to get everyone out, nor is there speculating how idiotic Trump's agreement was with the Taliban. 

Sure that speculation as well.  The US military had zero casualties in Afganistan for over a year.  If only the withdrawal had been handled properly...

 

[tonydead]

Come on now...you can't possibly believe that. Regardless, there is no speculating how stupid it was to only leave 2500 troops to get everyone out, nor is there speculating how idiotic Trump's agreement was with the Taliban. 

There is no need to speculate at all.  Trump's drawdown was only completed 5 days before Biden took office.  Biden could have reversed course, or took any course of his choosing at any time.  He decided to keep it at 2500, then continued the drawdown starting May 1st - three full months later.  He left Bagram before all civilians and allies were out.  His choices got people murdered and 300+ Americans and 1000s of allies left behind.

 

[Max Power]

If Biden put troops back after withdrawng down to 2500 and after Trumps idiotic agreement with the Taliban it would have been a bloodbath.

I keep hearing this and don't understand the thinking behind it. Why would Biden put in more troops and why would that be bad? Can you walk me through the thinking?

 

[Snotbubbles]

I keep hearing this and don't understand the thinking behind it. Why would Biden put in more troops and why would that be bad? Can you walk me through the thinking?

I curious as well.  The bombing last week was the deadliest for the US military in over 10 years.  Who was looking at a bloodbath, the Taliban?  

 

[shadrap]

There is no need to speculate at all.  Trump's drawdown was only completed 5 days before Biden took office.  Biden could have reversed course, or took any course of his choosing at any time.  He decided to keep it at 2500, then continued the drawdown starting May 1st - three full months later.  He left Bagram before all civilians and allies were out.  His choices got people murdered and 300+ Americans and 1000s of allies left behind.

people keep bringing up the bad Trump plan.  whatever plan Trump devised could have been scrapped by Biden just like the 27 executive orders Biden did in his 1st day in office.  I realize it's all Biden supporters have, but come on, get real.  I mean if there are complaints that Trump left too little troops there then send some in.  how about 50,000 more?  done in about 5 days.

This Trump plan complaint is wearing very thin.

 

[Rubiobot]

people keep bringing up the bad Trump plan.  whatever plan Trump devised could have been scrapped by Biden just like the 27 executive orders Biden did in his 1st day in office.  I realize it's all Biden supporters have, but come on, get real.  I mean if there are complaints that Trump left too little troops there then send some in.  how about 50,000 more?  done in about 5 days.

This Trump plan complaint is wearing very thin.

It has to wear thin to Trump supporters because its true. 

 

[DropKick]

It has to wear thin to Trump supporters because its true. 

duh?

 

[Max Power]

If you were wondering what Kamala Harris even does, it's apparently campaigning for Gavin Newsome in the middle of multiple crises.  Odd because she isn't even liked very much in California, but they still think this is the best use of her time. 

 

[Max Power]

Slammed by the crisis, his overall job approval rating in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, is down to 44%, with 51% disapproving – down 6 percentage points in approval and up 9 in disapproval since late June. Intensity has moved decidedly negative: Many more now strongly disapprove, 42%, than strongly approve, 25%.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bidens-job-approval-drops-44-amid-broad-criticism/story?id=79791303

Shocked to see 25% strongly approve of Joe Biden's Job performance. 

 

[Insein]

Shocked to see 25% strongly approve of Joe Biden's Job performance. 

I'm not. If you take people that still get their news from CNN, MSNBC and NYT, they would see the country as going great right now and anything that isn't great is Trumps fault. 

 

[Insein]

If you were wondering what Kamala Harris even does, it's apparently campaigning for Gavin Newsome in the middle of multiple crises.  Odd because she isn't even liked very much in California, but they still think this is the best use of her time. 

Ironically, it probably is the best use of her time for them. 

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Shocked to see 25% strongly approve of Joe Biden's Job performance. 

Remember the people in the Afghanistan thread who popped in to assure us that it's like, totally normal for the US to leave its own citizens behind when evacuating an occupied country?  Those folks make up around 25% or so of the population.

 

[GordonGekko]

Shocked to see 25% strongly approve of Joe Biden's Job performance. 

One of the tricks to cook polling numbers is to concentrate on single issue voters.

For example, while there is a Pro 2A crowd, there is also a hardened no holds barred anti-gun crowd where that overwhelms any other policy issue for that person. If you simply throw random assignment and random sampling out the door and poison your question list, you can start to shift the responses you get by manipulation.

The point being, Biden's numbers are very likely even worse. There are many Conservatives and Republicans who refuse to talk to pollsters no matter what. And some of them simply lie and say the exact opposite for sport ( I don't agree with that, but it happens)  Then there's the standard home cooking with the spread sheets to make the numbers sing a certain way.

There is now too much trepidation to talk politics to strangers or in public or both. The term "Shy Trump Voter" is actually insulting. You can't keep talking about putting people on lists and have people see others lose their careers and jobs by an aggressive hunting strategy to stop dissent and then expect them to want to talk about their political viewpoints to random people. The people more likely to talk are going to lean on the extreme edge of the spectrum.

Professional pollsters might as well be making buggy whips right now. What a completely tanked industry.