Widbil83
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This isn’t a thread for comments like that (as other have said up thread). And no, the Democrat candidates are much worse than what we have now.
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Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump is handling his job as president? 11/1/19 (1 Viewer)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Yeah who the Democratic candidates are has nothing to do with what trump has done or the question of this topic.
Whioe the stock market is up...other economic numbers aren't great for everyone. Including GDP and the deficit. Job numbers are ok at tomes good at times bad at others. Wages pretty flat.
He has waged trade wars on multiple fronts that have hurt American workers...and not the rich who could absorb that, but those that it really hurts.
His policies on the environment have been bad.
I suspect much of the Senate caused gridlock is on his behest.
Many of the people he has appointed all over the olace have been unqualified. In addition, how many lobbyists have been hired?
Healthcare has been ignored (other than making ACA even worse)...education has been given little attention. A temporary travel ban is still in place based mainly on religion.
Oh, and it seems at least 50% of what comes out of his mouth is just a flat out lie (my own estimate).
Thats before even getting to how he has alienated our allies while cozying up to brutal dictators and our adversaries (especially if they wrote him a nice note).
So no, I don't approve of how he has handled his job as POTUS.
Whioe the stock market is up...other economic numbers aren't great for everyone. Including GDP and the deficit. Job numbers are ok at tomes good at times bad at others. Wages pretty flat.
He has waged trade wars on multiple fronts that have hurt American workers...and not the rich who could absorb that, but those that it really hurts.
His policies on the environment have been bad.
I suspect much of the Senate caused gridlock is on his behest.
Many of the people he has appointed all over the olace have been unqualified. In addition, how many lobbyists have been hired?
Healthcare has been ignored (other than making ACA even worse)...education has been given little attention. A temporary travel ban is still in place based mainly on religion.
Oh, and it seems at least 50% of what comes out of his mouth is just a flat out lie (my own estimate).
Thats before even getting to how he has alienated our allies while cozying up to brutal dictators and our adversaries (especially if they wrote him a nice note).
So no, I don't approve of how he has handled his job as POTUS.
ren hoek
Footballguy
Disapprove mightily, also oppose impeachment on the grounds of phone call. In lieu of a serious challenge to Trump's actual policies, would prefer Democrats losing to Trump again and getting the wakeup call they never got from 2016 over a milquetoast Dem winning and everyone going to sleep again.
Wish there was a real opposition party in this country. Democrats keep handing him billions for child prison camps, billions for shootemup adventures in the middle east, have done zero to reign in surveillance state, prison state, corporate oligarchy or drug war. There's no end in sight when system is this manifestly corrupt.
Wish there was a real opposition party in this country. Democrats keep handing him billions for child prison camps, billions for shootemup adventures in the middle east, have done zero to reign in surveillance state, prison state, corporate oligarchy or drug war. There's no end in sight when system is this manifestly corrupt.
timschochet
Footballguy
Different. You didn’t like Hillary. I like Warren. I like Bernie. Warren is actually a terrific candidate, run a great campaign. I just worry that she won’t win the battleground states.
Let's follow the advice of that first sentence, shall we? I'd rather not get hooked for some time off for not following the thread topic.
Blame Trump, he's the one chasing off everyone but his base. I wanted him to do well in office, since he's the president, but he has not done so, instead, seemingly every decision a reasonable person would make, he heads in the opposite direction. Getting rid of ACA with no viable option to replace it, separating families and children at the border, sending them to camps(I remember that not working on either side in the 30s and 40s), outright asking countries to manufacture dirt on political opponents, as we saw in the memo, choosing his own property to host an international political summit, only backing down when everyone else said it was a bad idea. That's not even mentioning his demonization of anyone and everyone who doesn't fall in lock step with his ego, no matter which side of the aisle they may fall on.15%Trump vs the average national poll of 40%.
Always love these polls as it really shows how the board is tilted to the left as, over time, those on the right have been perma banned and simply left the boards.
I hoped he would do the right thing. That ship has sailed. If I had any thoughts of voting for him, those are long gone.
Widbil83
Footballguy
It really is hilarious. But honestly 15% is way up from other polls Joe has done in the past, heck I’m not sure I’ve seen him break out of single digits in one of these.15%
Always love these polls as it really shows how the board is tilted to the left as, over time, those on the right have been perma banned and simply left the boards.
Brony
Footballguy
this board tends to have more college educated members and his approval ratings among educated folk are lower than non college people. Explains some of the difference.15%
Always love these polls as it really shows how the board is tilted to the left as, over time, those on the right have been perma banned and simply left the boards.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Not even close to 15% though. Especially if you look at college educated white males which is the majority on these boards.
zoonation
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Obama put kids in cages before Trump ever thought about it. I don't recall the democrat outrage at that time.
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Couldn't tell you, since I'm not a Democrat, but he was wrong for that too. Even Obama's other policies, most if which I don't care for, pale in comparison to Trump's hack job.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I’m kind of the opposite, the things I care most about he is doing well and those I care less about he is doing very poorly.
an uneven scorecard to say the least.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Trump is just doing what Trump has done his whole life. He is trying to buy your votes by propping up your 401k's and other investments. He is doing what he needs to do to make that happen while robbing the voters, even his base, of anything substantial in the long term. Once Trump leaves office, be in 2020 or 2024, his base may relish in their 401k's but how many will be left to foot the bill for the millionaires and billionaires that are continuing to lap the American public with their increasing wealth at the cost of us. Short term gains will have huge long term losses yet people see that 20% gain this year and cherish the wolf in the hen house.
Plans like Warren's and Bernie's, while a possible short term loss, are much more long term focused. Republicans today have no interest in the long term gains of our country if it costs us those 20% gains. They won't give credit to Obama but the economy on a slow rise is much better than an economy of a fast rise. Trump has created bubbles his whole life... this is his current bubble. Get out of the way before it pops. Trump is just doing what Trump does.
Plans like Warren's and Bernie's, while a possible short term loss, are much more long term focused. Republicans today have no interest in the long term gains of our country if it costs us those 20% gains. They won't give credit to Obama but the economy on a slow rise is much better than an economy of a fast rise. Trump has created bubbles his whole life... this is his current bubble. Get out of the way before it pops. Trump is just doing what Trump does.
Gopher State
Footballguy
And most of us are extremely liberal and don’t approve of Trump and never have voted for a GOP candidate . I don’t think their are more then 10 Trump supporters on this board, different then in the real world. Don’t get me wrong I am all in for Biden, not so much for Warren and the rest of our B squad candidates
timschochet
Footballguy
Here’s one guy who doesn’t approve: Sean Doolittle, pitcher for the Washington Nationals:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/02/politics/sean-doolittle-nationals-trump-white-house-visit/index.html
He’s not going tomorrow. Says he just can’t do it. He has friends in the LGBTQ community, a family member with autism, minorities- he couldn’t face them if he shook Trump’s hand.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/02/politics/sean-doolittle-nationals-trump-white-house-visit/index.html
He’s not going tomorrow. Says he just can’t do it. He has friends in the LGBTQ community, a family member with autism, minorities- he couldn’t face them if he shook Trump’s hand.
D_House
Footballguy
Strongly disapprove.
Ignoring policy and not touching on his ugly rhetoric, his moral failings, or his tweeting - for me the most striking difference between President Trump and all of his predecessors is the appearance that a good deal of what he does (particularly WRT foreign relations) is for his own benefit rather than that of the nation.
Even setting aside his actions with respect to the Russian election tampering investigation and withholding the Ukraine military aid he’s shown that he will pursue his own interests over those of the nation.
One recent example forgotten with the impeachment investigations is the sudden cancellation of a planned trip to Denmark because of Denmark’s refusal to consider selling Greenland and because the Danish PM had been ‘nasty’ to him. So as a response to a perceived personal slight he insults an allied nation, disrupts all the planning that went into the meeting, and sets back diplomatic relations.
Ignoring policy and not touching on his ugly rhetoric, his moral failings, or his tweeting - for me the most striking difference between President Trump and all of his predecessors is the appearance that a good deal of what he does (particularly WRT foreign relations) is for his own benefit rather than that of the nation.
Even setting aside his actions with respect to the Russian election tampering investigation and withholding the Ukraine military aid he’s shown that he will pursue his own interests over those of the nation.
One recent example forgotten with the impeachment investigations is the sudden cancellation of a planned trip to Denmark because of Denmark’s refusal to consider selling Greenland and because the Danish PM had been ‘nasty’ to him. So as a response to a perceived personal slight he insults an allied nation, disrupts all the planning that went into the meeting, and sets back diplomatic relations.
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