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Do you believe a word Michael Vick says? (1 Viewer)

Sabertooth

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I'm watching his interview here and he's saying all the right things. He's putting us all on. I don't buy one word of his regret or humility. Not sure why. Just seems so phoney. Same for Big Ben. What is it with these Pennsylvania players?

 
I think he's changed, yeah. Losing a hundred million dollars will do that to a person.

Also, as an Atlanta fan I think it's easy to see how different he is. Totally different person than when he was here. Which....I don't know why some Atlanta fans still love the guy. He's outright admitted that he didn't give it his all when he was here, and betrayed the entire fanbase.

good for Philly that they have the "Good Vick" though...

 
I don't believe anyone that has a high paying job when they talk to the media, unless they later scream that they were misquoted then I believe the first statement.

 
Pretty much true for any professional athlete. They're all robots when being interviewed. The Mannings, Brady, Romo, Sanchez...I'm not sure any of them are real people.

 
Pretty much true for any professional athlete. They're all robots when being interviewed. The Mannings, Brady, Romo, Sanchez...I'm not sure any of them are real people.
Probably because any time any of them say even the slightest tinniest thing otherwise, it gets ripped and pulled apart. People like to blame that kind of thing on the media, but it's every bit as bad here.Look back at some of the threads that have been started on this board over player comments that there was absolutely nothing wrong with.
 
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I'm watching his interview here and he's saying all the right things. He's putting us all on. I don't buy one word of his regret or humility. Not sure why. Just seems so phoney. Same for Big Ben. What is it with these Pennsylvania players?
Vick paid for his crimes to the fullest extent. Guys entire life was brought down and he was in a cell for a year.I do think he is ashamed of what he did but also very pissed that with all going on in the world the government decided to throw the book at him.Guy deserves to be left alone at this point not to have his humility questioned.
 
Pretty much true for any professional athlete. They're all robots when being interviewed. The Mannings, Brady, Romo, Sanchez...I'm not sure any of them are real people.
Probably because any time any of them say even the slightest tiniest thing otherwise, it gets ripped and pulled apart. Then, people like to blame that kind of thing on the media, but it's every bit as bad here.Look back at some of the threads that have been started on this board over player comments that there was absolutely nothing wrong with.
I blame the corporatization of sports. Image is measured in dollars and these guys love their money. Now you get a lame, staged, family friendly trophy presentation on the field after the championship. I miss the times when fans went berserker on the field and the players showered each other with booze in the locker room. It's all about selling crap food, lousy beer and boner pills now.
 
I'm watching his interview here and he's saying all the right things. He's putting us all on. I don't buy one word of his regret or humility. Not sure why. Just seems so phoney. Same for Big Ben. What is it with these Pennsylvania players?
Vick paid for his crimes to the fullest extent. Guys entire life was brought down and he was in a cell for a year.I do think he is ashamed of what he did but also very pissed that with all going on in the world the government decided to throw the book at him.Guy deserves to be left alone at this point not to have his humility questioned.
:goodposting: There are worse crimes that get punished to a lesser extent. Same goes with Plaxico. An example was made of Vick and I don't necessary think that was a bad thing. These guys are world class idiots.
 
He seems genuine to me.

Comparing him to Ben seems silly. I have a feeling Ben would be more genuinely contrite had he spent a bit of time in the clink.

Funny how even a year of warm prison life (and lost millions) can change a man.

Good luck, Mike.

 
I do not think he has fought his last dog.
:yawn:
Pretty much true for any professional athlete. They're all robots when being interviewed. The Mannings, Brady, Romo, Sanchez...I'm not sure any of them are real people.
No kidding. Basically you take the words gameplan, execute & team, and arrange them as needed.
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
 
Watch this video of Vick addressing some high school students . (You can ignore the article; they bash the video they watched because it was dramatized with background music. The author is clearly referring to a different video than the embedded one.)

He seemed pretty sincere to me. :shrug:

At this point though, if you're inclined to forgive someone for past errors, you already have. If not, you probably won't, and that's ok too.

 
Don't blame the media. Its their job to find that someone said something wrong or try to get past the I'm here to do my best and I just want to help the team win type stuff or I've learned my lesson. Gotcha type jounalism sells papers and makes carrers. Dirty Laundry ala Don Henley is pretty much true but don't blame the jouralists, blame the public for craving this type of reporting.

"Bubble Headed Bleach Blond Comes on at 5, she'll tell ya 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye........" is till pretty funny.

 
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
 
Forgiveness is one thing. For as long as Vick continues to say and do the right things, I will continue forgive him.

Trust is another. Take five minutes to research exactly what Vick personally did to those poor dogs and you'll maybe understand why I find it hard to trust him. He has every incentive to deceive us, so logic tells me that his sincerity is at least questionable.

That said, I do wish for him to have changed and to continue to be an example for change. I just wouldn't bet on it.

He's a helluva football player, though.

 
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.

The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
:lmao: Funniest thing I've read all day. Don't treat me like a child when I'm playing pretend!
 
Trust is another. Take five minutes to research exactly what Vick personally did to those poor dogs and you'll maybe understand why I find it hard to trust him. He has every incentive to deceive us, so logic tells me that his sincerity is at least questionable.
You have now stated "personally" twice as if it gives gravity to the situation. If it was #### fighting NOBODY WOULD CARE, but because Fido at home is so cute when he fetches your slippers you are incapable of believing Vick is remorseful.
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.

The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
:lmao: Funniest thing I've read all day. Don't treat me like a child when I'm playing pretend!
FF is gambling not D & D
 
Trust is another. Take five minutes to research exactly what Vick personally did to those poor dogs and you'll maybe understand why I find it hard to trust him. He has every incentive to deceive us, so logic tells me that his sincerity is at least questionable.
You have now stated "personally" twice as if it gives gravity to the situation. If it was #### fighting NOBODY WOULD CARE, but because Fido at home is so cute when he fetches your slippers you are incapable of believing Vick is remorseful.
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.

The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
:lmao: Funniest thing I've read all day. Don't treat me like a child when I'm playing pretend!
FF is gambling not D & D
I'm sure there are guys laying money down on D & D somewhere, spinning their 16 sided dice. It's not a big deal, it's funny.
 
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.

The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
:lmao: Funniest thing I've read all day. Don't treat me like a child when I'm playing pretend!
Really? Funniest thing you've read all day? Congrats on being so easily amused...glad I could bring a smile to your face.

FF is a game, like sports or cards. A game that many grown-ups even put money into. I was stating that I, as a grown-up, prefer to not have a Big Brother over my shoulder telling who I can and can't draft, or how to manage my team.

 
He's a piece of garbage. I still had to unsuspend him this year due to a league vote. I'm not happy about it.
League vote? What kind of lame dictatorship are you running???
Lol, exactly my thought.

The day I have to vote so that my holier-than-thou commissioner will allow the league to draft the best QB in fantasy football is the day I look for a less phony-baloney, judgmental league.

Maybe it's just me, but I prefer to NOT be treated like a child when playing ff.
:lmao: Funniest thing I've read all day. Don't treat me like a child when I'm playing pretend!
Really? Funniest thing you've read all day? Congrats on being so easily amused...glad I could bring a smile to your face.

FF is a game, like sports or cards. A game that many grown-ups even put money into. I was stating that I, as a grown-up, prefer to not have a Big Brother over my shoulder telling who I can and can't draft, or how to manage my team.
Settle down. It sounded funny to me, no harm meant. Lets not take this stuff too seriously. It is pretend football after all.
 
You have now stated "personally" twice as if it gives gravity to the situation. If it was #### fighting NOBODY WOULD CARE, but because Fido at home is so cute when he fetches your slippers you are incapable of believing Vick is remorseful.
It does add gravity for me. Big time. What kind of person does those things? Especially with his OWN hands.And being able to do it to it to his family dogs makes it even worse because it feels like a step below child abuse. Especially when you consider that by all accounts, he took specific and meditated pleasure in their torture.Sorry dude. Like I said, I have and do forgive him for as long as he continues to do the right thing. But it's hard to completely believe and not mistrust what would be a very dramatic turnaround in character. He's got a long way to go before I trust him again.
 
How can he feel bad about something he does not feel is wrong? Real legitimate dog fighters are no different than any other performance animal enthusiast in that they truly believe their animals were born to do what they do.

In the case of a Game Bred fighting dog... the thing that it does best (in the eyes of a dog fighter) is fight.

I think he is sorry he got caught and very ashamed by it... but no way is he remorseful for taking part in the activity (imo).

I wont hold that against him though. Different strokes for different folks. Had I grown up in or around that sort of thing, who knows, maybe I would feel the same way. Not everyone is wired to value the life of a dog as much or even close to that of a human. Right or wrong, thats just the way it is.

 
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Do you believe a word Michael Vick says?
A better question is "Do you even care what Michael Vick says?". He's a football player. He plays football. So do a lot of people. Very little of what is said by football players makes any difference at all. Do you believe what Snooki says? Equally relevant.
 
'FreeBaGeL said:
'Hoart Petterson said:
Pretty much true for any professional athlete. They're all robots when being interviewed. The Mannings, Brady, Romo, Sanchez...I'm not sure any of them are real people.
Probably because any time any of them say even the slightest tinniest thing otherwise, it gets ripped and pulled apart. People like to blame that kind of thing on the media, but it's every bit as bad here.Look back at some of the threads that have been started on this board over player comments that there was absolutely nothing wrong with.
:goodposting: This is the most sane thing I've read on this board in awhile. We hate what we create. Our media has trained a loud minority of our society to be so hypersensitive to anything slightly off kilter that most public figures are accustomed to becoming robots in interviews. Vick and others tiptoe through their responses like a guy walking through a minefield. These answers are probably taken directly from some kind of 'dealing with the press for dummies' handbook...anything else and that small group of us will be 'appalled' and demand apologies or organize boycotts, etc.

This is basically what we all do in any work setting...As public figures and representatives of the NFL, players are always in a work setting so to speak. I would guess it's probably pretty tough to not crack the facade, especially with so many media, fans, 'friend's and hangers on just waiting for them to do just that on a daily basis. All so they can make their name on twitter, facebook, a blog, et al with the latest 'scandalous' news about said player.

 
No.

But I also don't care. He's not sorry but he did his time and deserves his second chance.

 
'Sabertooth said:
I believe he feels sorry that he lost out on a lot of money and had to sit in jail. I do not think he has fought his last dog.
:goodposting:I despise him and will not have him on my fantasy team.
 
i don't know that he feels what he did was truly wrong to the point that people are reacting to it to this extent. his responses definitely seem scripted. i agree with some of you that whether he realizes it or not is not relevant, he paid for it and he is a good football player. but i gotta say, i worry that the current success will again go to his head. he's already made statements that dog fighting is a cultural thing, on a local radio show I even heard a caller compare it to hunting for white people... :shock: you can take a boy out of the hood but... you know the rest.

 
'Sabertooth said:
I'm watching his interview here and he's saying all the right things. He's putting us all on. I don't buy one word of his regret or humility. Not sure why. Just seems so phoney. Same for Big Ben. What is it with these Pennsylvania players?
meh whatever.
 
'Not Sure said:
I thought this interview with the current owner of one of Vick's dogs was interesting. It was regarding Vick's GQ interview: http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/audioplayer/?id=http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/?p=5699
GREAT LINK here. Very revealing that Vick says in the G.Q. interview that he wishes he could get dogs for his children and that they are being hurt because he is banned from dog ownership: BUT as the interviewee on the link reveals, the publicly available court transcripts show that on two separate occasions Vick actually threw his childrens' family pets (not fighting dogs, his kids' family pets) into the dog fighting pits and watched them being torn apart.

So that's why Vick is not allowed to get dogs as pets for his kids. Huh.

 

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