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Dodds QB rankings Brady #17... (1 Viewer)

OP: Why pay money for bad advice then complain about it? #### the advice.
I was asking for clarification from the expert I pay money to - and tried to elicit friendly conversation from the forum on a rather reasonable ?- I found the ranking somewhat unconventional.Is that ok?
Not around here. You don't go into a convent and suggest Mary was a whore and you don't question FBG's rankings
 
OP: Why pay money for bad advice then complain about it? #### the advice.
I was asking for clarification from the expert I pay money to - and tried to elicit friendly conversation from the forum on a rather reasonable ?- I found the ranking somewhat unconventional.Is that ok?
I still don't get why an extra 1.5 points in the projection was so important. It's not like there's a crystal ball in Dodds' closet, or some old man in a DeLorean gave him a sports almanac from 2015 or anything.
 
kencav said:
ROBOPUNTER said:
OP: Why pay money for bad advice then complain about it? #### the advice.
I was asking for clarification from the expert I pay money to - and tried to elicit friendly conversation from the forum on a rather reasonable ?- I found the ranking somewhat unconventional.Is that ok?
as someone said earlier, look at the projections not the rankings and you'll see Brady and Kitna are separated by around a 1 pt difference, thats like 30 yds depending what your scoring is. So you couldn't be far off starting either one.
 
Again Today. I cannot help it.

The Day: October 18th 2009

The Incident: I sat Tom Brady in favor of John Kitna due to blizzard like concerns.

The Result: 5 TD's for Brady and 2 days of upset stomach for me

Post Mordem: Never Again

 
kencav said:
ROBOPUNTER said:
OP: Why pay money for bad advice then complain about it? #### the advice.
I was asking for clarification from the expert I pay money to - and tried to elicit friendly conversation from the forum on a rather reasonable ?- I found the ranking somewhat unconventional.Is that ok?
as someone said earlier, look at the projections not the rankings and you'll see Brady and Kitna are separated by around a 1 pt difference, thats like 30 yds depending what your scoring is. So you couldn't be far off starting either one.
Yes.And people also look at Brady's last two weeks, and act like he's guaranteed fantasy money.Wasn't that long ago he threw 6 TDs in 5 games, playing defenses not as good as the Bears. If you're gonna use the rankings, use the projections as well.
 
Latest forecast:

24 degrees for a high

40% chance of snow showers

Winds at 25mph. It didn't give any details about possible wind gusts

Remember that they flexed this game to 3pm, so the temp will drop from the beginning.

 
I'm sure Dodds didn't realize you needed Brady to have a good week. PM him...I'm sure he'll change his ranking. :wall:
Pretty sarcastic answers-looking for some constructive thoughts herePS- If you always made your own decisions you would not need a forum-thanks for the help!
Actually I believe MANY people need Brady to have a good week and pay money like me and look to this website for guidance and a rationale for rankings
So you think he should be ranked higher because many people need him to have a good week?
 
I'm sure Dodds didn't realize you needed Brady to have a good week. PM him...I'm sure he'll change his ranking. :confused:
Pretty sarcastic answers-looking for some constructive thoughts herePS- If you always made your own decisions you would not need a forum-thanks for the help!
Actually I believe MANY people need Brady to have a good week and pay money like me and look to this website for guidance and a rationale for rankings
So you think he should be ranked higher because many people need him to have a good week?
Actually I would like a rationale why he was initially ranked so low- he has magically risen to #7 in spite of weather so perhaps you could explain it to me.Obviously many people own Brady and want an accurate read of his value this week taking into account multiple factorsUnderstand slick?
 
He won't finish 17 or worse on the week, Pm me for a bet if you do.17 is low, he'll likely move up closer to game time.
ya, dodds even says not to take the initial projections too seriously.
Note: These early projections are a bit rough (using mostly math models right now). We will continue to refine them through tonight. Our full second-pass projections (most accurate data) are posted on Thursday morning.
 
Go deep said:
tonydead said:
Am I missing something here or is this way off base. I have Brady and Kitna for my first rd playoff game and this is making me seriously paranoid about my start of Brady...

If Brady were only cleaning up against the likes of Detroit that would be one thing but he has beaten up on the Steelers and Jets as well..

Brady at #17 and Kitna at #5- is this the way we see it going down? :confused:

Opinions...please!
You are right to question this. Don't listen to the FBG fanboys. Always start your studs. Kitna's only a fill-in.Brady #7

Kitna #22
I have a different theory, "always start the player you think will get the most points that week".
:goodposting:
 
Go deep said:
tonydead said:
Am I missing something here or is this way off base. I have Brady and Kitna for my first rd playoff game and this is making me seriously paranoid about my start of Brady...

If Brady were only cleaning up against the likes of Detroit that would be one thing but he has beaten up on the Steelers and Jets as well..

Brady at #17 and Kitna at #5- is this the way we see it going down? :confused:

Opinions...please!
You are right to question this. Don't listen to the FBG fanboys. Always start your studs. Kitna's only a fill-in.Brady #7

Kitna #22
I have a different theory, "always start the player you think will get the most points that week".
:goodposting:
2nd'd, but brady over kitna is a no brainer.
 
I'm sure Dodds didn't realize you needed Brady to have a good week. PM him...I'm sure he'll change his ranking. :confused:
Pretty sarcastic answers-looking for some constructive thoughts herePS- If you always made your own decisions you would not need a forum-thanks for the help!
Actually I believe MANY people need Brady to have a good week and pay money like me and look to this website for guidance and a rationale for rankings
So you think he should be ranked higher because many people need him to have a good week?
Actually I would like a rationale why he was initially ranked so low- he has magically risen to #7 in spite of weather so perhaps you could explain it to me.Obviously many people own Brady and want an accurate read of his value this week taking into account multiple factorsUnderstand slick?
And I'll bet anything that if Kitna outproduces Brady this week you're going to complain about these new rankings.Again, look at the projections themselves, rather than rankings, and you'll notice again that there really isn't much of a difference between the two projections.Also, you are totally allowed to choose whoever you want, you don't need to even go by some guy's rankings. But if you need validation, these new rankings should make you feel much more comfortable with the decision you apparently already made before looking at any projections this week.
 
Good thread kencav, LMAO at all the attitudes and self proclaimed sharks now Dodds reversed his rankings at what was really a no brainer to begin with.

 
Actually I would like a rationale why he was initially ranked so low- he has magically risen to #7 in spite of weather so perhaps you could explain it to me.
He didn't rise. Some of the 10 QBs who were projected to be above him were reduced by 1.6 points and fell below him. So Brady himself didn't really change. He's projected to score within a point of what the first projection was. So what's your point? So what's the big deal? Nothing changed for Brady, so why are you happy now?
 
Actually I would like a rationale why he was initially ranked so low- he has magically risen to #7 in spite of weather so perhaps you could explain it to me.
He didn't rise. Some of the 10 QBs who were projected to be above him were reduced by 1.6 points and fell below him. So Brady himself didn't really change. He's projected to score within a point of what the first projection was. So what's your point? So what's the big deal? Nothing changed for Brady, so why are you happy now?
Happy?.....I have been bludgeoned by a bunch of heavy handed blowhards for 2 days for starting a reasonable topic.How do you infer that I "am happy"- is my tiny generic avatar smiling? :shock: That being said early reports of snow are one thing, and current reports of snow with 35 mph winds are another- I plan to adjust "my" rankings accordingly
 
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Actually I would like a rationale why he was initially ranked so low- he has magically risen to #7 in spite of weather so perhaps you could explain it to me.
He didn't rise. Some of the 10 QBs who were projected to be above him were reduced by 1.6 points and fell below him. So Brady himself didn't really change. He's projected to score within a point of what the first projection was.

So what's your point? So what's the big deal? Nothing changed for Brady, so why are you happy now?
Happy?.....I have been bludgeoned by a bunch of heavy handed blowhards for 2 days for starting a reasonable topic.How do you infer that I "am happy"- is my tiny generic avatar smiling? :shock:

That being said early reports of snow are one thing, and current reports of snow with 35 mph winds are another- I plan to adjust "my" rankings accordingly
I meant, why are you pleased with Brady moving from 17 to 7 when his total projected points barely changed? Brady didn't "move up" as much as the people around him moved. Brady's projections didn't improve, yet you seem satisfied that 7 is better than 17. I don't get why.

 
No thoughts from here on the weekly rankings, as I missed the playoffs in my league and haven't looked at them anyway...I also know how NCPantherFan feels--when you don't play the ones that brung ya there a bad game hurts twice as much. That said--I had Brady on my squad in 2007 when he scored 50 td's, and the way I was outscoring anybody and everybody in that league it was a real slam when he ran into this kind of weather playing the Jets in week 15--and scored 5 fantasy points in our system. There's no guarantees in this game.

 
What in God's name is wrong with you people? The beating the OP is taking here is completely ridiculous.

The guy asked a question about why one of the very best "real" and fantasy QB's in history was ranked 17 this week. What the heck is wrong with that? Who cares about the number differences and point differences. Dodds had 16 guys, including Kitna, doing better than Brady this week. Why is it so wrong for the OP to bring this up for discussion?

If we aren't supposed to use the rankings and we should "make our own decisions," why does FBG's even do them? Of course we look at them. Of course we compare the rankings to what we think is going on in our heads. And of course, at the end of the day, we make our own decisions. People should not be ridiculed and belittled for starting a perfectly good thread and asking a perfectly legitimate question.

If this is what happens in the "shark" pool when good questions are asked, I dread to see what is going to happen to this place in the next few years.

 
When I see this ranking I immediately think of 2007 Week 15. You know that guy in your league who had the Brady+Moss combo, smugass look on his face and he stormed into the playoffs with the #1 seed.

14/27 for 140 YDS, 0 TD, 1 INT

 
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When I see this ranking I immediately think of 2007 Week 15. You know that guy in your league who had the Brady+Moss combo, smugass look on his face and he stormed into the playoffs with the #1 seed. 14/27 for 140 YDS, 0 TD, 1 INT
Well thank god its 2010.
 
When I see this ranking I immediately think of 2007 Week 15. You know that guy in your league who had the Brady+Moss combo, smugass look on his face and he stormed into the playoffs with the #1 seed. 14/27 for 140 YDS, 0 TD, 1 INT
:goodposting: I beat that guy that week :unsure:
 
Seriously?

Seriously, no one would have predicted a first half beatdown of this magnitude

Brady for the rest of this year is unbenchable, and not ranking him in the top 10 in any situation is unwarranted.

 
Seriously?Seriously, no one would have predicted a first half beatdown of this magnitudeBrady for the rest of this year is unbenchable, and not ranking him in the top 10 in any situation is unwarranted.
but he is playing in a blizzard :unsure:
 
Brady for the rest of this year is unbenchable, and not ranking him in the top 10 in any situation is unwarranted.
Because he's been benchable before or is it just that this is his first good week? I don't get this
 
Brady for the rest of this year is unbenchable, and not ranking him in the top 10 in any situation is unwarranted.
Because he's been benchable before or is it just that this is his first good week? I don't get this
first good week? in my league he has scored 40+ PTs 3 out of the last 4 games
I'm aware of Brady's stats. I didn't understand the post. Now he's unbenchable for me insinuates before he was benchable so I was asking what he meant
 
Seriously?Seriously, no one would have predicted a first half beatdown of this magnitudeBrady for the rest of this year is unbenchable, and not ranking him in the top 10 in any situation is unwarranted.
That's not true. They blew out the Jets just like this LAST week and as far as playing in the snow, Brady threw 6 Tds last year against the Titans.
 

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