Does Cedric Cobb have any value in Denver? (1 Viewer)

[P Boy]

"Does Cedric Cobbs have any value in Denver?"

Did Reuben Droughns have any value in Denver?.....

If lightening strikes again & DEN has 3 RBs that get hurt early & will be out a good portion of the season, then maybe you're right, you should be trying to grab Cobbs as soon as possible.This is a guy who was barely making a practice squad last year - which means 31 other teams could have plucked him off the practice squad & added him as their 5th RB on a regular roster and used him even as a wedge buster - yet no one wanted to take that opportunity. For 2 years now any team could have had him for a song or less.

Who knows, maybe he'll suddenly become a stud in DEN, but he sure looks like camp fodder to me. But maybe those 22 career carries for 50 yds over two years is just deceptive....

 

[hellavabeer]

There's a positive buzz about Cobbs out at Dove Valley. I know that Shanny wanted to draft him, but decided to take Tatum Bell in the 2nd.

IMHO he's the most complete back out of all the current Bronco backs. The reason he didn't see the field is because he was still learning the ropes. I think the fact that he held onto his job (and didn't get cut like alot of PS guys) means that coaches like what they saw out of him.

He needs to stay healthy and motivated, but I think Cobbs has plenty of value. Now if the Broncos take a RB on the first day (DeAngelo Williams?) then his value obviously takes a hit.

 

[AnonymousBob]

There's a positive buzz about Cobbs out at Dove Valley.  I know that Shanny wanted to draft him, but decided to take Tatum Bell in the 2nd. 

IMHO he's the most complete back out of all the current Bronco backs.  The reason he didn't see the field is because he was still learning the ropes.  I think the fact that he held onto his job (and didn't get cut like alot of PS guys) means that coaches like what they saw out of him. 

He needs to stay healthy and motivated, but I think Cobbs has plenty of value.  Now if the Broncos take a RB on the first day (DeAngelo Williams?) then his value obviously takes a hit.

Why is that a good posting? We seem to have conflicting reports from Denver posters as to whether there is actually any "buzz" about this guy or not.

 

[Bri]

Cedric Cobbs=Ahmad Galloway 2

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi...hanahan&spell=1

 

[Papa Georgio]

The problem with Cobbs isn't talent. He only got worse and worse while at Arkansas because of immaturity and off field activities. I doubt he will ever be mature enough to use his talent. I think he is just glad to still be getting paid to "play" football.

If he suddenly had some life changing events then he could easily be a decent NFL back.

 

[Team Legacy]

NONE of these backs were as highly touted as Cedric Cobbs before draft day...

Too bad I'm not in your dynasty league...

If you think Cobbs has any tangible value, you're damn glad I'm not in your FF league.

30 man rosters, definitely. And I welcome your challenge.

 

[Liquid Tension]

There's a positive buzz about Cobbs out at Dove Valley.  I know that Shanny wanted to draft him, but decided to take Tatum Bell in the 2nd. 

IMHO he's the most complete back out of all the current Bronco backs.  The reason he didn't see the field is because he was still learning the ropes.  I think the fact that he held onto his job (and didn't get cut like alot of PS guys) means that coaches like what they saw out of him. 

He needs to stay healthy and motivated, but I think Cobbs has plenty of value.  Now if the Broncos take a RB on the first day (DeAngelo Williams?) then his value obviously takes a hit.

I think the only one here with a positive buzz are the people who are holding out hope for Cobbs, simply because he's on the Broncos. Seriously, if this guy was on say... the Browns practice squad... would this thread even exist?Value? Value! He has no value unless you're in a 18-team, carry 8 RBs league. Has anyone ever heard of coachspeak, or do you just fall all over yourselves everytime a coach says something positive about a fantasy player?

Cedric Cobbs was cut from New England because he was a lazy, egotistical, self-proclaimed superstar who didn't think he needed to put in any work during the week in order to see the field on Sunday. Good luck with that. Tatum Bell can't do enough to impress Shanahan, but Cedric Cobbs will?

"IMHO he's the most complete back out of all the current Bronco backs."

Hey Kit I wouldn't laugh at that considering that is not setting the bar too high. I thought Cobbs was injured last year?

 

[LHUCKS]

If he suddenly had some life changing events then he could easily be a decent NFL back.

Why couldn't he have just matured? Facing the reality of unemployment can change a person's perspective. Or just the reality of experiencing the world for a few more years can change a perspective as well.Cobbs isn't exactly set for life financially. Time and time again we've seen players like Reuben Droughns come into their own after a few non-existent years.

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

 

[Bri]

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

He was cut already by an NFL team. One could make the argument they got burned once and aren't going to again. How often do quality RBs get cut when the contract is no big deal?

 

[ConstruxBoy]

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

He was cut already by an NFL team. One could make the argument they got burned once and aren't going to again. How often do quality RBs get cut when the contract is no big deal?

You seem so persistent with this angle Bri and I'm not sure why. But I will tell you one thing: The team that he got cut by was the Patriots. Now it seems to me that the Patriots are a different breed of team than other teams, very much into the team concept and the idea that no individual is greater than the whole. That's a great concept and it certainly has worked well for them, but I would guess that it gives them a very itchy trigger finger when it comes to cutting immature RBs. So I don't quite look down on the Patriots cutting a guy because of immaturity issues as I do, say, the Raiders. We'll see if he can do anything with the Broncos.

 

[Papa Georgio]

If he suddenly had some life changing events then he could easily be a decent NFL back.

Why couldn't he have just matured? Facing the reality of unemployment can change a person's perspective. Or just the reality of experiencing the world for a few more years can change a perspective as well.Cobbs isn't exactly set for life financially. Time and time again we've seen players like Reuben Droughns come into their own after a few non-existent years.

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

That is exactly what I was saying. If he has matured then who knows what he could do. I picked him up in a deep dynasty myself. I am not expecting much but then again I doubt many people thought they'd get much from Anderson, Droughns, etc.

 

[Kit Fisto]

dumb... that was the knock according to what i read a few months ago

You're right, anyone that young who blows an opportunity to play for the champs is dumb.

You're still calling them that?

When he was on the Pats, they were.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Again, many of the folks dismissing Cobbs as nothing but a piece of garbage are probably the same ones who were saying the same things about Dayne around this time last year.

You just never know...

Did Ron Dayne do something that I missed? Pssst... Ron Dayne's no TD or Portis, and come Week 1, chances are good he won't even be the starter. Dude spent more than half of last year in street clothes. And even he wasn't on a practice squad...

Now that being said, Dayne and Bell are the guys you hold and take a chance on. Anybody holding on to hope that Cedric Friggin' Cobbs has any value in normal-sized leagues, you're drooling over the fact he's a Bronco, plain and simple. If he were third string on any other team, this thread doesn't exist, sorry.

My fantasy leagues: 12 teams, carry 6 RBs = 72 RBs. And no, Cedric Cobbs is not among the Top 72 RBs in the NFL, sorry. Every NFL starter = 32 RBs. Add in their backups/drafted rookies, = 64. Throw in some fullback-TD vultures like (ex.) Zack Crockett, Mike Sellers etc. with the hope-and-a-prayer guys that owners are still waiting on (Lee Suggs, William Green, Najeh Davenport) and you're well over 72. If you want to hold onto a guy like Cobbs in your last spot, go nuts. I prefer to draft and stash guys that are ACTUALLY ON NFL ROSTERS!

My RBs: Mostly comprised of 3-4 starting RBs with 1 or 2 handcuffs (ex. Rhodes, Morris, Henry etc...). Throw in a rookie project and you've got no room for Cobbs. Like I said in the paragraph above, if you're stashing Cedric Cobbs, chances are your team sucks.

Now before everyone jumps down my throat about this one, I know all about making the shark move BEFORE word gets out on a guy. With that I agree. It's just not gonna be this guy fellas, I'm sorry. I owned Bell and Anderson, and I wasn't worried for one second about Maurice Clarett. Saw that coming a mile away. The same can be said for Cobbs. Talented, sure. They all are, guys. It's what they do with that talent that sets college guys apart from pros.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Bowing out of this one for now, guys. I'm off to start a new "Tony Hollings: Could he start somewhere else?" thread.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Man, the Patriots fans really have it in for this guy. What did he do? Hit on your sister?

 

[zamboni]

Again, many of the folks dismissing Cobbs as nothing but a piece of garbage are probably the same ones who were saying the same things about Dayne around this time last year.

You just never know...

Did Ron Dayne do something that I missed? Pssst... Ron Dayne's no TD or Portis, and come Week 1, chances are good he won't even be the starter. Dude spent more than half of last year in street clothes. And even he wasn't on a practice squad...

Now that being said, Dayne and Bell are the guys you hold and take a chance on. Anybody holding on to hope that Cedric Friggin' Cobbs has any value in normal-sized leagues, you're drooling over the fact he's a Bronco, plain and simple. If he were third string on any other team, this thread doesn't exist, sorry.

My fantasy leagues: 12 teams, carry 6 RBs = 72 RBs. And no, Cedric Cobbs is not among the Top 72 RBs in the NFL, sorry. Every NFL starter = 32 RBs. Add in their backups/drafted rookies, = 64. Throw in some fullback-TD vultures like (ex.) Zack Crockett, Mike Sellers etc. with the hope-and-a-prayer guys that owners are still waiting on (Lee Suggs, William Green, Najeh Davenport) and you're well over 72. If you want to hold onto a guy like Cobbs in your last spot, go nuts. I prefer to draft and stash guys that are ACTUALLY ON NFL ROSTERS!

My RBs: Mostly comprised of 3-4 starting RBs with 1 or 2 handcuffs (ex. Rhodes, Morris, Henry etc...). Throw in a rookie project and you've got no room for Cobbs. Like I said in the paragraph above, if you're stashing Cedric Cobbs, chances are your team sucks.

Now before everyone jumps down my throat about this one, I know all about making the shark move BEFORE word gets out on a guy. With that I agree. It's just not gonna be this guy fellas, I'm sorry. I owned Bell and Anderson, and I wasn't worried for one second about Maurice Clarett. Saw that coming a mile away. The same can be said for Cobbs. Talented, sure. They all are, guys. It's what they do with that talent that sets college guys apart from pros.

Dayne sure did something on Thanksgiving Day last year, and while it's a small sample size and he may revert to the bust he was, he seemingly did enough to make Shanahan take notice. I respect your judgment, but I'm going to have to side with the coach's opinion here. As for Cobbs, I think there's always room for projects like him in deep leagues (I play in a 12 team, 20 roster set-up). I'd much rather a potential (albeit small) chance at a Denver starting RB than a Mike Sellers-type.

 

[Bri]

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

He was cut already by an NFL team. One could make the argument they got burned once and aren't going to again. How often do quality RBs get cut when the contract is no big deal?

You seem so persistent with this angle Bri and I'm not sure why. But I will tell you one thing: The team that he got cut by was the Patriots. Now it seems to me that the Patriots are a different breed of team than other teams, very much into the team concept and the idea that no individual is greater than the whole. That's a great concept and it certainly has worked well for them, but I would guess that it gives them a very itchy trigger finger when it comes to cutting immature RBs. So I don't quite look down on the Patriots cutting a guy because of immaturity issues as I do, say, the Raiders. We'll see if he can do anything with the Broncos.

they needed a RB and cut him though. I mean most mocks have them again drafting a Dillon heir this year. eh well we'll see

 

[ConstruxBoy]

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

He was cut already by an NFL team. One could make the argument they got burned once and aren't going to again. How often do quality RBs get cut when the contract is no big deal?

You seem so persistent with this angle Bri and I'm not sure why. But I will tell you one thing: The team that he got cut by was the Patriots. Now it seems to me that the Patriots are a different breed of team than other teams, very much into the team concept and the idea that no individual is greater than the whole. That's a great concept and it certainly has worked well for them, but I would guess that it gives them a very itchy trigger finger when it comes to cutting immature RBs. So I don't quite look down on the Patriots cutting a guy because of immaturity issues as I do, say, the Raiders. We'll see if he can do anything with the Broncos.

they needed a RB and cut him though. I mean most mocks have them again drafting a Dillon heir this year. eh well we'll see

True. But in a 12 man Zealot league with a current 60 man roster and everyone having 8-10 RBs, I think he has some value, no? FWIW, I don't even have him, Barry Jive does.

 

[Team Legacy]

for future potential ribbing exercises...

 

[Bri]

they needed a RB and cut him though. I mean most mocks have them again drafting a Dillon heir this year.

eh well we'll see

True. But in a 12 man Zealot league with a current 60 man roster and everyone having 8-10 RBs, I think he has some value, no? FWIW, I don't even have him, Barry Jive does.

I don't but can see the other side of the argument with him playing for Denver's RB machine. For me, I'd have grabbed him with the Pats, watched him NOT get time with Denver and gone onto the next young RB. 3rd or 4th guy on another team's depth chart for example. There's no shortage of them really and the NFL's about to get it's annual influx of them soon too. IMO It's a pretty solid theory to roll with NFL cut=cut from your FF team.(for young RBs)Couple examples I can remember receiving similar high praise. Antoine Womack went high in dynasty drafts and some insisted he'd latch on elsewhere.

Doug Chapman with Minny, Jesse Chatman in SD.

Travis Prentice might be a good one. He became "nothing" real fast in Minny

We're not scouts, we're not coaches deciding what opportunity players will get. IMO In this instance, we have to follow their lead.

Previously I mentioned Ahmad Galloway. I forget which team he started for SD or Denver. He was with one and was cut. He went to NFLE and did well. Now, IMO, with NFLE he earned another shot. He was cut again but....

There's guys like Tony Richardson cut from Dallas but generally it's a very sound theory. So I'd say to you axe Cobbs and take some other teams young hopeful RB or grab one after the draft to replace him.

Sorry messed up some quoting

 

[ConstruxBoy]

they needed a RB and cut him though. I mean most mocks have them again drafting a Dillon heir this year.

eh well we'll see

True. But in a 12 man Zealot league with a current 60 man roster and everyone having 8-10 RBs, I think he has some value, no? FWIW, I don't even have him, Barry Jive does.

I don't but can see the other side of the argument with him playing for Denver's RB machine. For me, I'd have grabbed him with the Pats, watched him NOT get time with Denver and gone onto the next young RB. 3rd or 4th guy on another team's depth chart for example. There's no shortage of them really and the NFL's about to get it's annual influx of them soon too. IMO It's a pretty solid theory to roll with NFL cut=cut from your FF team.(for young RBs)Couple examples I can remember receiving similar high praise. Antoine Womack went high in dynasty drafts and some insisted he'd latch on elsewhere.

Doug Chapman with Minny, Jesse Chatman in SD.

Travis Prentice might be a good one. He became "nothing" real fast in Minny

We're not scouts, we're not coaches deciding what opportunity players will get. IMO In this instance, we have to follow their lead.

Previously I mentioned Ahmad Galloway. I forget which team he started for SD or Denver. He was with one and was cut. He went to NFLE and did well. Now, IMO, with NFLE he earned another shot. He was cut again but....

There's guys like Tony Richardson cut from Dallas but generally it's a very sound theory. So I'd say to you axe Cobbs and take some other teams young hopeful RB or grab one after the draft to replace him.

Sorry messed up some quoting

You make some excellent points. I think it's just up to the risk-aversion level of an individual owner to decide whether to pick up a guy like Cobbs in the first place and then how long to hold him.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Two pages on Cobbs in April, now you know that this Shark Pool is deep waters....

Yes, Cobbs has value - all everyone here is debating the extent of that value.

He is best classified as a "project" or someone akin to Samkon Gado. Given the right opportunity or performance in camp, or an injury, or preseason excelling, you will know to snag him.

The question is risk / reward. He's dirt cheap now. He could be the starting RB in Denver, with a non-zero chance of that happening. It could be 100-1, but that would have been Gado's odds (or worse) this time last year.

Now you know a player to watch. We're all looking for the next Gado before the others in our league find him.

As for dynasty, if you can compete in the next couple of years and have room to stash a project RB, he's worth a flyer.

 

[Bri]

He is best classified as a "project" or someone akin to Samkon Gado.

2005 gnb | 8 | 143 582 4.1 6 | 10 77 7.7 1 |2004 nwe | 3 | 22 50 2.3 0 | 0 0 0.0 0

 

[ConstruxBoy]

He's no Nall

 

[ConstruxBoy]

He is best classified as a "project" or someone akin to Samkon Gado.

2005 gnb | 8 | 143 582 4.1 6 | 10 77 7.7 1 |2004 nwe | 3 | 22 50 2.3 0 | 0 0 0.0 0

Bri, he was talking about Gado before 2005. What is Gado's stat line for 2004?

 

[Kit Fisto]

Man, the Patriots fans really have it in for this guy. What did he do? Hit on your sister?

No, he just sucked then as he sucks now.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Man, the Patriots fans really have it in for this guy. What did he do? Hit on your sister?

No, he just sucked then as he sucks now.

I thought you were staying out of this thread?

 

[Kit Fisto]

Again, many of the folks dismissing Cobbs as nothing but a piece of garbage are probably the same ones who were saying the same things about Dayne around this time last year.

You just never know...

Did Ron Dayne do something that I missed? Pssst... Ron Dayne's no TD or Portis, and come Week 1, chances are good he won't even be the starter. Dude spent more than half of last year in street clothes. And even he wasn't on a practice squad...

Now that being said, Dayne and Bell are the guys you hold and take a chance on. Anybody holding on to hope that Cedric Friggin' Cobbs has any value in normal-sized leagues, you're drooling over the fact he's a Bronco, plain and simple. If he were third string on any other team, this thread doesn't exist, sorry.

My fantasy leagues: 12 teams, carry 6 RBs = 72 RBs. And no, Cedric Cobbs is not among the Top 72 RBs in the NFL, sorry. Every NFL starter = 32 RBs. Add in their backups/drafted rookies, = 64. Throw in some fullback-TD vultures like (ex.) Zack Crockett, Mike Sellers etc. with the hope-and-a-prayer guys that owners are still waiting on (Lee Suggs, William Green, Najeh Davenport) and you're well over 72. If you want to hold onto a guy like Cobbs in your last spot, go nuts. I prefer to draft and stash guys that are ACTUALLY ON NFL ROSTERS!

My RBs: Mostly comprised of 3-4 starting RBs with 1 or 2 handcuffs (ex. Rhodes, Morris, Henry etc...). Throw in a rookie project and you've got no room for Cobbs. Like I said in the paragraph above, if you're stashing Cedric Cobbs, chances are your team sucks.

Now before everyone jumps down my throat about this one, I know all about making the shark move BEFORE word gets out on a guy. With that I agree. It's just not gonna be this guy fellas, I'm sorry. I owned Bell and Anderson, and I wasn't worried for one second about Maurice Clarett. Saw that coming a mile away. The same can be said for Cobbs. Talented, sure. They all are, guys. It's what they do with that talent that sets college guys apart from pros.

Dayne sure did something on Thanksgiving Day last year, and while it's a small sample size and he may revert to the bust he was, he seemingly did enough to make Shanahan take notice. I respect your judgment, but I'm going to have to side with the coach's opinion here. As for Cobbs, I think there's always room for projects like him in deep leagues (I play in a 12 team, 20 roster set-up). I'd much rather a potential (albeit small) chance at a Denver starting RB than a Mike Sellers-type.

One game does not a fantasy player make. Ask Maurice Smith. But yes, I'll agree with you for argument's sake that Shanahan took notice. I don't like Dayne, and Cedric Cobbs can't even touch Dayne.I'll also agree that in deep, deep leagues... sure, take a flyer, why not? But to disregard a guy like Mike Sellers and chase guys like Cobbs is foolish. Mike Sellers finished with 8 TDs last year. (Yards, not so much, so I'll concede league format does play into this thread.) He scored more TDs than the likes of... Brian Westbrook, Chris Brown, Domanick Davis, Tatum Bell, Willie Parker, Cadillac Williams, Warrick Dunn, Ronnie Brown, TJ Duckett, Willis McGahee, Julius Jones, Jamal Lewis, Fred Taylor, Kevin Jones, Curtis Martin, Reuben Droughns, JJ Arrington, and even the great RON DAYNE!

It's guys like Sellers (Crockett, too) that serve as great bye-week and injury fill-ins (in TD leagues), rather than chasing guys like Cobbs who don't even dress. They may not be as "sexy" or have as good of a chance of becoming the full-time starter, but who does? I'm intersted in collecting wins, not having a great "on paper" team. Sure, you want to be the guy to pick up the "next" Sam Gado or Willie Parker, but you don't go about it by picking up every 3rd-stringer a coach says something positive about.

But like you say Zamboni, you'd rather have a small chance of acquiring a DENVER RB than carrying someone else. And that is the crux of my arguement. If he was on any other team other than the Broncos, we would not be talking about him, in any capacity.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Man, the Patriots fans really have it in for this guy. What did he do? Hit on your sister?

No, he just sucked then as he sucks now.

I thought you were staying out of this thread?

Couldn't help myself.

 

[Bri]

He is best classified as a "project" or someone akin to Samkon Gado. 

2005 gnb | 8 | 143 582 4.1 6 | 10 77 7.7 1 |2004 nwe | 3 | 22 50 2.3 0 | 0 0 0.0 0

Bri, he was talking about Gado before 2005. What is Gado's stat line for 2004?

Gained a career-high 901 yards, on 138attempts, as a senior, including a team-high 11 touchdowns. Won four letters at Division I-AA Liberty

University (2001-04)

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Man, the Patriots fans really have it in for this guy. What did he do? Hit on your sister?

No, he just sucked then as he sucks now.

I thought you were staying out of this thread?

Couldn't help myself.

I appreciate your passion about the subject and you certainly have some good points.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

He is best classified as a "project" or someone akin to Samkon Gado.

2005 gnb | 8 | 143 582 4.1 6 | 10 77 7.7 1 |2004 nwe | 3 | 22 50 2.3 0 | 0 0 0.0 0

Bri, he was talking about Gado before 2005. What is Gado's stat line for 2004?

Gained a career-high 901 yards, on 138attempts, as a senior, including a team-high 11 touchdowns. Won four letters at Division I-AA Liberty

University (2001-04)

Nice job. I had actually heard about him as my cousin went to Liberty with him.

 

[Barry Jive and The Uptown Five]

To say Cobbs isn't worth a flier in deep leagues is misguided IMHO.

He was cut already by an NFL team. One could make the argument they got burned once and aren't going to again. How often do quality RBs get cut when the contract is no big deal?

You seem so persistent with this angle Bri and I'm not sure why. But I will tell you one thing: The team that he got cut by was the Patriots. Now it seems to me that the Patriots are a different breed of team than other teams, very much into the team concept and the idea that no individual is greater than the whole. That's a great concept and it certainly has worked well for them, but I would guess that it gives them a very itchy trigger finger when it comes to cutting immature RBs. So I don't quite look down on the Patriots cutting a guy because of immaturity issues as I do, say, the Raiders. We'll see if he can do anything with the Broncos.

they needed a RB and cut him though. I mean most mocks have them again drafting a Dillon heir this year. eh well we'll see

True. But in a 12 man Zealot league with a current 60 man roster and everyone having 8-10 RBs, I think he has some value, no? FWIW, I don't even have him, Barry Jive does.

Eyeing that #1 rookie pick in 2007, I am.....

 

[waveman]

The problem with Cobbs isn't talent. He only got worse and worse while at Arkansas because of immaturity and off field activities. I doubt he will ever be mature enough to use his talent. I think he is just glad to still be getting paid to "play" football.

If he suddenly had some life changing events then he could easily be a decent NFL back.

As an Arkansas fan who has seen him play, it seemed like he didn't have his heart in it and he was just getting by toward the end of his collegiate career. After he got his first big injury (I think it was his sophomore year when he was on the cover of SI) he played not to get hurt. I knew when he went to NE, he would be a bust. He also had injury problems the last three years in college, and the reason he got as many yards as he did, is Arkansas was a run first team.

 

[aussiehockeyfan]

I think Cedric Cobbs would be embarassed that a 85-post (and rising) thread has been created contemplating whether or not he has any fantasy value.

 

[waveman]

I think Cedric Cobbs would be embarassed that a 85-post (and rising) thread has been created contemplating whether or not he has any fantasy value.

He should be embarassed that he hasn't had any fantasy value yet

 

[P Boy]

I think Cedric Cobbs would be embarassed that a 85-post (and rising) thread has been created contemplating whether or not he has any fantasy value.

I think if Cobbs actually had any pride (precluding his embarrassment) or desire to make beaucoup $$$ for playing a game, he'd put even a modicum of effort into his play. Because he doesn't, it speaks volumes for his character. Even if he did have more talent than Dayne and/or Bell - which I would dispute - he seems completely unwilling to tap that talent and apparently has a mindset much like Maurice Clarett did - "hey, I'm great, you're stupid for not recognizing it, because I'm so great I don't need to practice hard, but I expect you to give me the rock 25 times every Sunday & pay me major scratch for it."Good luck if you're a Cobbs owner. I've been wrong planty before *cough* Justin Fargas *cough* and I could be wrong this time. But I don't see anything from Cobbs that a Dayne/Bell duo wouldn't supercede by a wide margin.