This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!
There is no viable counter-argument for your nonsense. Please back up your statement with some numbers.Of course, you know that you can't - so you keep blustering. My old man had a saying for guys like you:
unked:
Give numbers to prove it. Just saying a name means nothing. AND, Brady has not done it for 10+ years like Favre has.
BzzzzzzzzzzzzzWe have a loser.You aren't actually concerned with numbers, are you, or you wouldn't have posted this answer without making at least a modium of effort to see if you were right? You just spout off the top of your head & expect people here to accept your omnipotent opinion as fact. I think you'll find that on this message board that attitude quickly puts you behind the 8 ball and makes you a target of great derision. People here don't suffer fools lightly.Tom Brady, last 4 games of the season, since 2001 (or in other words, his career):7-1 at home, last 4 games.11-2 overall, home & away, last 4 games.Care to take another guess?
Here's some numbers for you, creamoftheVikes & Bearsgogglz:
Brett Favre, record, last 4 week of the season when the $$$ is on the line:
15-2 home & away since 2000, last 4 games
38-11 overall home & away career, last 4 games
9-0 at home since 2000, last 4 games
23-2 at home career, last 4 games.
Please find me another QB who can match those numbers since in the last 4 games of the year when playoff berths are on the line, both career & since 2000 - when he is allegedly washed up.
All the guy does is win when the $$$ are on the line. He's one of the top 3 2:00 minute QBs in NFL history. Apparently that isn't good enough for you. But I'll wait while you provide some QB in the history of the NFL with better numbers over such a long span and near the end of their careers.
Here we go again.....Very impressive stats, PB, but I gotta laugh at how Favre disciples such as yourself blindly rush to his defense when others dare to say he's not the greatest QB of all time. Believe me, I'm not knocking the guy -- he's a first ballot lock for the HOF, a top 7 or 8 QB for the ages. But at this point in his career, the team does not rely on him to win games for them, and he makes a lot of stupid throws for a 13 year vet.
Ummmmmmmm, let me think about this....Uh, because success in football is still predicated on the run? That a team takes less chances & can control tempo of the game by running? That this is fundamental to the game of football? Capice? (LOL)
Wow. Sorry I put a twist in your knickers by actually saying aloud that Bratt is not the bestest, most wonderful QB of all-time, PB! I merely added my 2 cents to the thread about how amusing it is that obsessed, jock sniffing fans of the guy will go to great lengths to protect him from assuming any responsiblity for his mistakes. I applaud your spray-my-shorts-with-love-for-the-guy approach which did nothing but prove my point. Great job!
Again, just to review, Favre is a great QB, but he makes more mistakes than you'd expect from a supposed all-timer. You're of the mind that he's way on the plus side the past few years between singlehandedly winning games and making 2 or 3 mistakes which keep GB from winning games they should? That's cool. I disagree. No need to blow a gasket, friend. Go back to romancing your Official Favre blow up doll and pay me no nevermind. 
ahhh have you watch NE the oh past few years? How many SB wins do both QBs have? Brady and Farve led their teams to one of the biggest upsets in recent SB history but with completely different outcomes.By the way, I have backed it up with numbers. Tell you what, who has the better playoff % record and who has more wins? Who was favored in a SB but was the losing QB? Who was the underdog in a SB and was the winning QB? Brady has more SB rings than Farve so if you want me to, we can come back to this discussion when he has as many years as Farve has played but he still will have more SB rings than Farve will ever have.By the way, come to think of it, I can't remember a time when Brady was the cause of a big time win while you can't say the same thing about Farve.Give numbers to prove it. Just saying a name means nothing. AND, Brady has not done it for 10+ years like Favre has.
Again, just to review, Favre is a great QB, but he makes more mistakes than you'd expect from a supposed all-timer. You're of the mind that he's way on the plus side the past few years between singlehandedly winning games and making 2 or 3 mistakes which keep GB from winning games they should? That's cool. I disagree. No need to blow a gasket, friend. Go back to romancing your Official Favre blow up doll and pay me no nevermind.
Agree 100% here. Funny but you attempt to say that a player isn't as good as people think and people throw a hissy fit and twist it around to say that you think said player stinks.Me: That player isn't AS GOOD as people make him out to be.Farve lovers: How can you say he sucks!?!?! You know nothing about football, you just signed up, you must be a young kid. Who else has done better than Farve?!?!?Me: Brady has two SB and never cost them a big game, EVER. Farve has one SB and blew big games all of his career.Farve lovers: Back that up (or excuses flow in and then time to attack me personally)
The problem is you've yet to provide any type of evidence to support your claim that Favre "loses more games than he wins." Myself and others have provided example after example after example that proves otherwise and all you can do is spout off more conjecture.Honestly, if you want to have a legitimate discussion about Favre, his place in history, whether he's over-rated or not, that's all fine and good. But bring something to the table besides loud talk because loud talk just isn't going to get it done in this case.Sorry.Again, just to review, Favre is a great QB, but he makes more mistakes than you'd expect from a supposed all-timer. You're of the mind that he's way on the plus side the past few years between singlehandedly winning games and making 2 or 3 mistakes which keep GB from winning games they should? That's cool. I disagree. No need to blow a gasket, friend. Go back to romancing your Official Favre blow up doll and pay me no nevermind.
I've brought more than plenty to the table, I can't help it that you aren't able to take those rose colored Farve glasses off your face.The problem is you've yet to provide any type of evidence to support your claim that Favre "loses more games than he wins." Myself and others have provided example after example after example that proves otherwise and all you can do is spout off more conjecture.Honestly, if you want to have a legitimate discussion about Favre, his place in history, whether he's over-rated or not, that's all fine and good. But bring something to the table besides loud talk because loud talk just isn't going to get it done in this case.Sorry.Again, just to review, Favre is a great QB, but he makes more mistakes than you'd expect from a supposed all-timer. You're of the mind that he's way on the plus side the past few years between singlehandedly winning games and making 2 or 3 mistakes which keep GB from winning games they should? That's cool. I disagree. No need to blow a gasket, friend. Go back to romancing your Official Favre blow up doll and pay me no nevermind.
and it sent me straight to the toilet
If you had actually read what I've written in this thread you'd already know that I hardly absolve Favre of his mistakes when he makes them. You really do need to keep up. It'll help what argument you hope to present.Again, you've presented nothing that proves your point of view. The link you provided didn't support your position at all and actually strengthened the opposing point of view. Now you're trying to turn this into a Favre vs. Brady debate. Meanwhile, we're still waiting for one bit of evidence that supports your claim that Favre "loses more games than he wins."He does play a later game today. Maybe you just need a little extra time?I've brought more than plenty to the table, I can't help it that you aren't able to take those rose colored Farve glasses off your face.The problem is you've yet to provide any type of evidence to support your claim that Favre "loses more games than he wins." Myself and others have provided example after example after example that proves otherwise and all you can do is spout off more conjecture.Honestly, if you want to have a legitimate discussion about Favre, his place in history, whether he's over-rated or not, that's all fine and good. But bring something to the table besides loud talk because loud talk just isn't going to get it done in this case.Sorry.Again, just to review, Favre is a great QB, but he makes more mistakes than you'd expect from a supposed all-timer. You're of the mind that he's way on the plus side the past few years between singlehandedly winning games and making 2 or 3 mistakes which keep GB from winning games they should? That's cool. I disagree. No need to blow a gasket, friend. Go back to romancing your Official Favre blow up doll and pay me no nevermind.
ahhh have you watch NE the oh past few years? How many SB wins do both QBs have? Brady and Farve led their teams to one of the biggest upsets in recent SB history but with completely different outcomes.
By the way, I have backed it up with numbers. Tell you what, who has the better playoff % record and who has more wins? Who was favored in a SB but was the losing QB? Who was the underdog in a SB and was the winning QB? No you have not
Brady has more SB rings than Farve so if you want me to, we can come back to this discussion when he has as many years as Farve has played but he still will have more SB rings than Farve will ever have.
By the way, come to think of it, I can't remember a time when Brady was the cause of a big time win while you can't say the same thing about Farve.:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
you are such a hammer
Well, it started out on topic, but the Favre apologists take anything not John Madden-esque that's said about The Emperor of Green Bay and run with it!So much for keeping this thread on track
Hmmmm. I guess today's game might've put a crimp in those impressive stats, eh PB? Maybe now you'll begin to understand what I was talking about earlier -- bad decisions at critical junctures of the game by Favre certainly prohibit GB from winning games. It really does happen, but you only notice it if you take off the green/yella glasses. I know, I know, there were other players and/or coaching decisions at fault; I'm sure you've got a laundry list of 'em, along with a ton of other excuses. But the bottom line is that Favre made enough miscues today to seriously hamper the team's ability to win. Now, the refs sure did their damnedest to help GB along, what with picking up that flag after Bratt pegged the ref with the ball (only after he batted his eyelashes at them, though), and then that horse#### pass interference call immediately thereafter. Wasn't quite enough, though. Ah well. It's all over 'cept for your
One game doesn't make your case but keep trying, BearcrapplzHmmmm. I guess today's game might've put a crimp in those impressive stats, eh PB? Maybe now you'll begin to understand what I was talking about earlier -- bad decisions at critical junctures of the game by Favre certainly prohibit GB from winning games. It really does happen, but you only notice it if you take off the green/yella glasses. I know, I know, there were other players and/or coaching decisions at fault; I'm sure you've got a laundry list of 'em, along with a ton of other excuses. But the bottom line is that Favre made enough miscues today to seriously hamper the team's ability to win. Now, the refs sure did their damnedest to help GB along, what with picking up that flag after Bratt pegged the ref with the ball (only after he batted his eyelashes at them, though), and then that horse#### pass interference call immediately thereafter. Wasn't quite enough, though. Ah well. It's all over 'cept for your
And you call the Packer fans in this thread biased. :rotflmao: But yup, Favre's 2 INTs were huge plays in the game -- especially the one in the Red Zone. That was an absolute killer and a huge turning point in the game. No doubt about it.
LOL at you not able to read my previous posts and still don't get it. Shocked you can't see this.LOL at anything you attempt since you can't produce the facts to base your claim that Favre loses more games than he wins.Do you still wear protective head gear or did you give it up because the damage is already done?
Not this season. Coming into today, Favre had thrown just 1 INT inside the 10-yard line. Oh, that info came courtesy of the link you provided, so thanks for that.
Also, that INT was his first in 161 pass attempts at Lambeau this season, so he clearly hasn't been throwing many INTs lately at home. And I notice you still are unable to prove he "loses more games than he wins."
No...you don't get it. Produce the facts that show Favre has lost more games than he has won. You are the tool that stated it was a fact but you can't seem to produce the numbers to support your claim.I'm done with your pathetic fishing trip. Find another board to troll.LOL at you not able to read my previous posts and still don't get it. Shocked you can't see this.LOL at anything you attempt since you can't produce the facts to base your claim that Favre loses more games than he wins.Do you still wear protective head gear or did you give it up because the damage is already done?
Considering you are saying Favre isn't a HOF QB, I'd say, quit bashing and learn something about football. Your man C-Pep will never ever accomplish the MVP's, nor will he ever win a Super Bowl..EverSo if I say a QB who has more or less than Farve means what to this topic?So how many Super Bowl victories and MYP's does your QB have??????:crickets:
This is ridiculous to even argue with a 12yr old mentality like yours
Damn, I thought he was only 7.Considering you are saying Favre isn't a HOF QB, I'd say, quit bashing and learn something about football. Your man C-Pep will never ever accomplish the MVP's, nor will he ever win a Super Bowl..EverSo if I say a QB who has more or less than Farve means what to this topic?So how many Super Bowl victories and MYP's does your QB have??????
Question:Who has the second most INT in the redzone since 1991?Not this season. Coming into today, Favre had thrown just 1 INT inside the 10-yard line. Oh, that info came courtesy of the link you provided, so thanks for that.
When has Farve been GREAT more times than not in big time games? Start with career postseason games and don't post records against the likes of Chicago / Detroit etc. Speaking of Chicago and TEN, tow bottom feeders, where was Farve in those games as well vs those GREAT teams? I've answered it DeCheater
Umm... Favre??Question to you.What other QB in the league today has been playing since 1991?? 2nd part... How many games has the next QB, other than Favre, played in that time??Your question is flawed because there is only one answer... you repeat making as #### of yourself so keep it up.In reply to your other post quoting me... I admit Favre had a bad game but can you honestly say most of the first half calls the refs made on the Packers defense were fair?? They were some of the worst calls I have seen. Plus they did not call some penalties on the Jaguar defense in the first half that should have been called. Believe me, I was there and saw the crap go down. From me and others in this thread you have been so
I think you rank up there with the Matrix's of this board.
