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Dolphin Players bullied Jonathan Martin, Richie Incognito SUSPENDED (1 Viewer)

fatness said:
If he appears to be staying calm and not doing things like Twitter wars and car beatups, I think someone will give him a shot later in the offseason. Not the Dolphins, though.
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The free-agent guard who was at the center of last year's Miami Dolphins bullying scandal is visiting the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Monday, two people with knowledge of the visit confirmed to USA TODAY Sports on Monday.
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/buccaneers/2014/08/25/richie-incognito-visiting-tampa-bay/14566401/

edit: Tango beat me to it.

 
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Martin makes the 9ers roster. And the Bucs choose to make a trade instead of signing Incognito.

The over/under on starts this season may be higher than most of us expected for Martin.

 
The 49ers’ initial 53-player roster has just seven available offensive linemen — five starters and two backups. One of those reserves is ex-Dolphin Jonathan Martin, who will back up both tackle spots and could also be asked to play guard in a pinch.

In a conference call with media on Saturday, 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh called Martin an “example of someone who’s really earned the position” on the club’s roster.

“He’s been mainly playing tackle, but he has the ability to play guard and going forward that will be something that he’ll continue to learn and be good at,” Harbaugh said, according to an interview transcript from the club. “I feel very good about it. He’s done an excellent job of getting the job done.”
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/harbaugh-jonathan-martin-has-done-an-excellent-job-of-getting-the-job-done/

 
Limp Ditka said:
RBM said:
Limp Ditka said:
RBM said:
proninja said:
Todem said:
Martin was a victim.

Case closed. My speculation was wrong in regards to the severity of the taunts and bullying. And I based it on my own experience in high school and college baseball.

This was some brutal treatment.......you should not have to be subjected to this on a daily basis. A metally weak person would crumble. And a person who is head strong and confident......would not deal with this either. It came down to situation of how are you going to handle this? I always felt martin should have dealt with it internally first....I mean really pursue that and keep it in house.

He did not.

Because of that....a lot of players would never trust him. And trust is the cornerstone to being a teammate. Even though it was wrong, and now after reading a lot of this report.....I am disgusted with my favorite NFL team to allow this to go on for so long.....Martin's career is on thin ice as well.

In any case.....no question now. Martin was a victim here and Incognito the ring leader.

Let's move on now......let's start talking about footbal again everyone.
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Glad to hear you admit you were wrong. Lots of people would keep on slamming Martin.

I think you're still wrong with the "players won't trust him because he didn't keep it in house" thing too though. Seems like the only reason to worry about that is if you're the type of locker room that has that crap going on in it. If you run a locker room where players are treated like humans, there's really nothing to worry about.

I'm interested if he's actually any good or not, because I think Seattle would be the perfect landing spot for him. He's got a couple Stanford teammates here, Baldwin has been vocally supportive of him, and if Sherm's got your back, nothing bad is going to happen to you. It's a progressive town, and Carroll is as supportive of players and taking care of them how they need to be as any coach in the league. I can't say for sure this kind of stuff doesn't go on here, but it would shock me. But if he's not good enough as a player, it's a moot point.
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:lmao: Lots of rainbows and butterflies in your version of the NFL. Jeez man c'mon.This is a brutal, violent sport played by nut jobs. It is no place for a guy like Martin.
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speaking of brutal and nut jobs, I present to you, RBM!

The NFL is about to change. Something tells me you won't like where it ends up.
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New kinder, softer NFL? :lmao: You can't be serious can you?

How will you handle it if Incognito gets a job before Martin? You realize a lot of bad men have played in this league right? Incognito with his big, dumb mouth had nothin on guys like Leonard Little and Ray Ray.
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How's this logic treating you?
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update?

 
Limp Ditka said:
Limp Ditka said:
RBM said:
Limp Ditka said:
RBM said:
proninja said:
Todem said:
Martin was a victim.

Case closed. My speculation was wrong in regards to the severity of the taunts and bullying. And I based it on my own experience in high school and college baseball.

This was some brutal treatment.......you should not have to be subjected to this on a daily basis. A metally weak person would crumble. And a person who is head strong and confident......would not deal with this either. It came down to situation of how are you going to handle this? I always felt martin should have dealt with it internally first....I mean really pursue that and keep it in house.

He did not.

Because of that....a lot of players would never trust him. And trust is the cornerstone to being a teammate. Even though it was wrong, and now after reading a lot of this report.....I am disgusted with my favorite NFL team to allow this to go on for so long.....Martin's career is on thin ice as well.

In any case.....no question now. Martin was a victim here and Incognito the ring leader.

Let's move on now......let's start talking about footbal again everyone.
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Glad to hear you admit you were wrong. Lots of people would keep on slamming Martin.

I think you're still wrong with the "players won't trust him because he didn't keep it in house" thing too though. Seems like the only reason to worry about that is if you're the type of locker room that has that crap going on in it. If you run a locker room where players are treated like humans, there's really nothing to worry about.

I'm interested if he's actually any good or not, because I think Seattle would be the perfect landing spot for him. He's got a couple Stanford teammates here, Baldwin has been vocally supportive of him, and if Sherm's got your back, nothing bad is going to happen to you. It's a progressive town, and Carroll is as supportive of players and taking care of them how they need to be as any coach in the league. I can't say for sure this kind of stuff doesn't go on here, but it would shock me. But if he's not good enough as a player, it's a moot point.
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:lmao: Lots of rainbows and butterflies in your version of the NFL. Jeez man c'mon.This is a brutal, violent sport played by nut jobs. It is no place for a guy like Martin.
Click to expand...
speaking of brutal and nut jobs, I present to you, RBM!

The NFL is about to change. Something tells me you won't like where it ends up.
Click to expand...
New kinder, softer NFL? :lmao: You can't be serious can you?

How will you handle it if Incognito gets a job before Martin? You realize a lot of bad men have played in this league right? Incognito with his big, dumb mouth had nothin on guys like Leonard Little and Ray Ray.
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How's this logic treating you?
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update?
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I'd be absolutely fine with Incognito in the league.

Ray Rice, not so much.

 
Incognito has to be wishing this waited a year before coming out. Compared to the wife beaters and child abusers his verbal sparring with a 350 pound man seems pretty damn minor. Even more interesting is that teams were ready to put Rice and Peterson back out on the field asap until the public outrage but Incognito still sits on the sidelines shunned. Is it that the Dolphins were ahead of the curve (something they aren't often accused of) in sitting Incognito last year and avoiding public backlash or is it that NFL teams really don't care what you do off the field (until sponsors start speaking) but if you upset the locker room dynamic you are gone ?

 
SwampDawg said:
Incognito has to be wishing this waited a year before coming out ... Is it that the Dolphins were ahead of the curve (something they aren't often accused of) in sitting Incognito last year and avoiding public backlash or is it that NFL teams really don't care what you do off the field (until sponsors start speaking) but if you upset the locker room dynamic you are gone ?
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It's all case-by-case. These situations are being responded to on an ad hoc basis, and aren't necessarily being compared to one another to establish precedent.

 
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