Dolphin WR thread (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

For PPR leagues Bess may be a steal. There is the chance that he becomes like Mike Thomas. Mike didn't adjust to his new role as a "#1". All though Hartline may be their #1 (I guess), Bess will garner more attention. FFC doesn't even have him as a top 62 drafted WR, so you can draft him for literally nothing and take a chance that he gets 80 receptions.

I agree. When you are selecting really late, you have to look at players in a different light. There are two reasons a guy like Bess is valuable late like that.1) As Badgers Fan mentioned, somebody is going to get some targets this season. Bess and Hartline both have journeymen level talent and wouldn't start for many, dare I say most teams. But Bess is clearly the better player. And that doesn't mean they can't have value. Bess has caught over 200 balls in the past 3 seasons. So say he catches 60 balls. That's pretty solid production from a guy you get while other teams are filling in their backup defenses, kickers, and tight ends. Hartline is bigger but I don't know that he's got the skill to hold off any challenges so I wouldn't bother with him.

2) If Bess doesn't work out, you just cut him and it won't be agonizing. Just more, meh. So you are going to have "clarity" on that situation in the first few weeks. You either hit fantasy (I don't want to say gold but perhaps silver). Or you realize he isn't worth a spot and snag this year's Antonio Brown off the wire, whomever that may be.

 

[Slapdash]

I don't think any of these guys are rosterable outside of Bess at this point.

 

[loose circuits]

I don't think any of these guys are rosterable outside of Bess at this point.

Do you understand that there are deeper leagues then what you play in? In all 3 of my 12x35 nonIDP Bess, Hartline, Fuller, Matthews, and Cunningham are owned. Likely some wont make cut to 30 in time for season, but.to blankently say they aren't worth a roster spot is ignorance IMO

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I don't think any of these guys are rosterable outside of Bess at this point.

Tend to agree at the moment

 

[loose circuits]

Rotoworld took a spin on this one making it sound like Gates was a long shot, but neglected Ireland's comments so I don't think it is as bad for Gates as they played it off...

The Dolphins drafted Gates 111th and hoped he would produce immediately, like his close friend and fellow Abilene-Christian alum Johnny Knox did when the Bears drafted him 140th in 2009. But Gates played only 155 snaps, was targeted 10 times and caught two passes for 19 yards. “The only thing I was discouraged about,” Ireland said, “was not getting him more opportunities. He has a great future.”

Gates, who has a 4.3 speed, said last year “was confusing” but that the game has started “to slow down for me” mentally. But it’s not happening for Gates as fast as some of the other receivers; Philbin said he needs work on making route adjustments based on defensive coverages.

If he doesn’t improve in that area – vital in the West Coast offense – it’s difficult to envision him beating out front-runner Legedu Naanee for the No. 3 job or even winning the No. 4 job. Gates has bigger goals than that: "I want to be an every-down receiver.''

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/2012/06/dolphins-demanding-more-from-thomas-gates-dolphins-heat-um-marlins-notes-.html#storylink=cpy

 

[IHEARTFF]

For PPR leagues Bess may be a steal. There is the chance that he becomes like Mike Thomas. Mike didn't adjust to his new role as a "#1". All though Hartline may be their #1 (I guess), Bess will garner more attention. FFC doesn't even have him as a top 62 drafted WR, so you can draft him for literally nothing and take a chance that he gets 80 receptions.

I agree. When you are selecting really late, you have to look at players in a different light. There are two reasons a guy like Bess is valuable late like that.1) As Badgers Fan mentioned, somebody is going to get some targets this season. Bess and Hartline both have journeymen level talent and wouldn't start for many, dare I say most teams. But Bess is clearly the better player. And that doesn't mean they can't have value. Bess has caught over 200 balls in the past 3 seasons. So say he catches 60 balls. That's pretty solid production from a guy you get while other teams are filling in their backup defenses, kickers, and tight ends. Hartline is bigger but I don't know that he's got the skill to hold off any challenges so I wouldn't bother with him.

2) If Bess doesn't work out, you just cut him and it won't be agonizing. Just more, meh. So you are going to have "clarity" on that situation in the first few weeks. You either hit fantasy (I don't want to say gold but perhaps silver). Or you realize he isn't worth a spot and snag this year's Antonio Brown off the wire, whomever that may be.

 

[DawnBTVS]

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/sfl-miami-dolphins-second-impression-kelly-20120629,0,7230332.story

Clyde Gates has a ton of speed, but he's not showing much of it because he's struggling to grasp the Dolphins' new west coast offense. Maybe things change when the pads come on, but heading into camp the team's 2011 fourth-round pick is firmly positioned behind Legedu Naanee and Roberto Wallace, and is being pushed by Marlon Moore, Julius Pruitt and the rookies for the final receiver spot.

B.J. Cunningham, the Dolphins' sixth-round pick this year, struggled from a consistency standout. Right now the former Michigan State receiver, is behind Jeff Fuller, who wasn't drafted, and Rishard Matthews, a seventh-round pick, when it comes to earning a spot on the Dolphins roster.

Looks like the picture will remain muddied likely until late in the pre-season if not until the regular season opener. Now granted these are just opinions but Omar Kelly has a good dial on the Dolphins and I trust what he usually says.

 

[lbouchard]

Davone Bess is still the guy IMO

 

[squistion]

This is not encouraging news for the Gates fans in this thread:

Clyde Gates may lose his roster spot in Miami

Posted by Evan Silva on July 5, 2012, 10:08 AM EDT

Disappointing holdover players frequently feel the squeeze when new regimes take over organizations. Dolphins wide receiver Clyde Gates was drafted by returning G.M. Jeff Ireland, but he struggled as a fourth-round rookie out of Abilene Christian last year, and Miami underwent a coaching staff makeover this offseason.

In May, Ben Volin of the Palm Beach Post wrote that Gates was “certainly no lock to make the roster.”

In June, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reported that Gates was not learning new coach Joe Philbin’s offense “as fast as some of the other receivers,” and this was just before the Dolphins added Chad Ochocinco.

On Thursday morning, Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post wrote a blog post suggesting Ocho’s arrival could leave Gates as the “odd man out.”

Gates held his own as a rookie kickoff returner, but fourth-round pick Lamar Miller is also capable of handling those duties. Biggane indicated that Gates will have to make great strides as a wide receiver in order to make the final 53.

And if you can’t crack the Dolphins’ receiver corps, it probably doesn’t bode well for your NFL future.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/05/clyde-gates-may-lose-his-roster-spot-in-miami/

 

[amicsta]

The best receiver on the Dolphins is Reggie Bush. With the reports that Bush will return to a role similar to the Saints and Daniel Thomas will handle more early down work, I think that the writing is on the wall that Bush will lead the team in catches and possibly receiving yards.

 

[EBF]

I've been following the little news blurbs the last few weeks and it's all speculation at this point.

I still like Gates here because he's the only one on the team who has the potential to be above average. I guess Ochocinco does too if he can find his old legs. My concern with him is that he's getting old and was a complete non-factor for New England last season, so it's hard to expect an instant renaissance.

Bess is a good slot WR, but nothing more. The other guys on the roster are all lucky to be in the league.

 

[squistion]

I've been following the little news blurbs the last few weeks and it's all speculation at this point.

I still like Gates here because he's the only one on the team who has the potential to be above average. I guess Ochocinco does too if he can find his old legs. My concern with him is that he's getting old and was a complete non-factor for New England last season, so it's hard to expect an instant renaissance.

Bess is a good slot WR, but nothing more. The other guys on the roster are all lucky to be in the league.

Everything on this forum for players who the coaches have not indicated as having locked down a roster spot is speculation. Although here all the "speculation" about Clyde Gates is negative and is from three separate sources over a three month period:

In May, Ben Volin of the Palm Beach Post wrote that Gates was “certainly no lock to make the roster.”

In June, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald reported that Gates was not learning new coach Joe Philbin’s offense “as fast as some of the other receivers,” and this was just before the Dolphins added Chad Ochocinco.

On Thursday morning, Brian Biggane of the Palm Beach Post wrote a blog post suggesting Ocho’s arrival could leave Gates as the “odd man out.”

You can try and spin it positively, which is certainly not unexpected - as you have been touting this player ever since he made your 2011 rookie rankings list and you arguably have a vested interest that he succeeds (having listed him at #11 overall: http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=591245&st=0&p=13132395&fromsearch=1entry13132395)But one does not have to read much between the lines from what has been reported to see that he is on shaky ground and seems more likely than not to be cut - which of course is speculation on my part.

 

[EBF]

There were quotes from one of the Dolphin execs earlier in the offseason saying they expected big things from him.

None of it really means anything right now. What matters is who's on the field when the games start.

 

[Xue]

Gates doesn't fit the offense. They don't need a burner. If they're willing to trade Brandon Marshall, what makes one think they actually value Gates?

 

[squistion]

There were quotes from one of the Dolphin execs earlier in the offseason saying they expected big things from him.

None of it really means anything right now. What matters is who's on the field when the games start.

Um, in my world if you can't make the roster, then you literally can't be on the field when the games starts.But I do vaguely remember the Miami Execs quotes you refer to for Clyde Gates, although not quite as rosy as you suggest. Weren't they more like "We have high hopes for him, but he has to show us something."

And also, weren't they before OTAs? If so, file those quotes under "That was then, this is now,"

And meanwhile, the news is not getting any better for poor Clyde - from Rotoworld earlier today:

http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/nfl/6583/clyde-gates

The Palm Beach Post reiterates that Clyde Gates' roster spot is in serious jeopardy.

Gates will enter camp behind the likes of Chad Ochocinco, Legedu Naanee and Roberto Wallace. He's struggled to pick up new coach Joe Philbin's offense and could lose his kickoff returner job to rookie Lamar Miller. At this point, all Gates brings to the table is raw 4.37 speed. Jul 5 - 10:35 AM

 

[bonesman]

B.J. Cunningham - WR - Dolphins

After a rough start in rookie minicamp, sixth-round WR B.J. Cunningham reportedly "performed at a high level the rest of the way" in offseason practices.

Despite setting Michigan State's receiving record, Cunningham dropped in the draft due to a 4.59 forty and questions about his ability to separate from NFL corners. If he follows his strong spring showing with a stellar training camp, Cunningham could climb a shallow depth chart to contribute in multi-wide sets.

Source: Sporting News

Jul 5 - 7:47 PM

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

B.J. Cunningham - WR - DolphinsAfter a rough start in rookie minicamp, sixth-round WR B.J. Cunningham reportedly "performed at a high level the rest of the way" in offseason practices.Despite setting Michigan State's receiving record, Cunningham dropped in the draft due to a 4.59 forty and questions about his ability to separate from NFL corners. If he follows his strong spring showing with a stellar training camp, Cunningham could climb a shallow depth chart to contribute in multi-wide sets.Source: Sporting NewsJul 5 - 7:47 PM

! signs of hope!

 

[scothawk]

I just cut Clyde Gates. 45 player rosters and very active owners. If you throw anything with an ounce of value onto the wire it goes in minutes.

24 hours later he still sits there.

His reports are getting weaker and it seems some of the others are stepping up. Final straw was reading that he didnt get the system. His best shot now is WR5 but even then I think they might look to bring in a west coast vet instead.

Ah well, I paid nada for him so nothing lost.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

1. Davone Bess

2. Chad OchoCinco...wasn't buying it at first but he is going to play and be part of the starting trio or rotation.

3. Brian Hartline

4. Whatever

5. Whatever

6.Whatever

In 2013 Miami will likely upgrade at WR through the draft and I only see Bess carving out a nitch for himself the next 3-4 years if we are talking dynasty. Bess really at most is about 80/800/5...that's really the upside IMO.

Ocho is 34, couldn't make it with Brady, doubt he reels in more than 50-60 receptions tops but he might end up with 50/650/4...I don't see a lot of upside here.

I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now.

In 2012, take Bess late, maybe take Ocho as a late flyer but leave the rest of this alone.

Reggie Bush is going to see a lot of receptions, he openly spoke about it. i would pencil in Bush for about 50-65 receptions although the QB play cannot be discounted, don't go too crazy on Reggie's projections. It's gonna be spread around and I don't expect much from this team in 2012.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

1. Davone Bess2. Chad OchoCinco...wasn't buying it at first but he is going to play and be part of the starting trio or rotation. 3. Brian Hartline4. Whatever5. Whatever6.WhateverIn 2013 Miami will likely upgrade at WR through the draft and I only see Bess carving out a nitch for himself the next 3-4 years if we are talking dynasty. Bess really at most is about 80/800/5...that's really the upside IMO. Ocho is 34, couldn't make it with Brady, doubt he reels in more than 50-60 receptions tops but he might end up with 50/650/4...I don't see a lot of upside here. I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now. In 2012, take Bess late, maybe take Ocho as a late flyer but leave the rest of this alone. Reggie Bush is going to see a lot of receptions, he openly spoke about it. i would pencil in Bush for about 50-65 receptions although the QB play cannot be discounted, don't go too crazy on Reggie's projections. It's gonna be spread around and I don't expect much from this team in 2012.

No hope for BJ Cunningham?

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

this is a longer thread than I would've imagined

 

[Ministry of Pain]

1. Davone Bess2. Chad OchoCinco...wasn't buying it at first but he is going to play and be part of the starting trio or rotation. 3. Brian Hartline4. Whatever5. Whatever6.WhateverIn 2013 Miami will likely upgrade at WR through the draft and I only see Bess carving out a nitch for himself the next 3-4 years if we are talking dynasty. Bess really at most is about 80/800/5...that's really the upside IMO. Ocho is 34, couldn't make it with Brady, doubt he reels in more than 50-60 receptions tops but he might end up with 50/650/4...I don't see a lot of upside here. I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now. In 2012, take Bess late, maybe take Ocho as a late flyer but leave the rest of this alone. Reggie Bush is going to see a lot of receptions, he openly spoke about it. i would pencil in Bush for about 50-65 receptions although the QB play cannot be discounted, don't go too crazy on Reggie's projections. It's gonna be spread around and I don't expect much from this team in 2012.

No hope for BJ Cunningham?

6th round pick, lot of bodies right now, if he makes the team it will likely be as a WR5/6 type. You see him growing into the WR1 roles on this team?

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

1. Davone Bess2. Chad OchoCinco...wasn't buying it at first but he is going to play and be part of the starting trio or rotation. 3. Brian Hartline4. Whatever5. Whatever6.WhateverIn 2013 Miami will likely upgrade at WR through the draft and I only see Bess carving out a nitch for himself the next 3-4 years if we are talking dynasty. Bess really at most is about 80/800/5...that's really the upside IMO. Ocho is 34, couldn't make it with Brady, doubt he reels in more than 50-60 receptions tops but he might end up with 50/650/4...I don't see a lot of upside here. I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now. In 2012, take Bess late, maybe take Ocho as a late flyer but leave the rest of this alone. Reggie Bush is going to see a lot of receptions, he openly spoke about it. i would pencil in Bush for about 50-65 receptions although the QB play cannot be discounted, don't go too crazy on Reggie's projections. It's gonna be spread around and I don't expect much from this team in 2012.

No hope for BJ Cunningham?

6th round pick, lot of bodies right now, if he makes the team it will likely be as a WR5/6 type. You see him growing into the WR1 roles on this team?

Probably not, I think he has the talent to become a solid #2 in the NFL though, but from what I've heard, looks like this is just a rag tag group alltogether

 

[todisco1]

this is a longer thread than I would've imagined

It's a loooong offseason.

 

[loose circuits]

Anyone think Tori Gurley (or Borel) could end up on Miami if he gets caught in #'s game? Philbin knows them well and if the hype is accurate they are better then anything in Miami

 

[DawnBTVS]

I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now.

For me, personally, it's more about playing in deep leagues and just exploring options at the moment in terms of WR3/4/5 spots. The HC came from an explosive passing attack at GB and the OC, Mike Sherman, has also had success offensively in Green Bay in years past so there is some potential upside if the team is forced to throw to catch up in games.The QB situation could generate some flex value at the position as Garrard has been effective in the past and Matt Moore was solid enough last year.Leave no stones unturned essentially.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think my question to people watching this situation is why are you even looking here with such a terrible QB situation at the moment? I can see folks maybe rolling the dice on TY Hilton from FIU who was drafted by Indy...that I get with the arm of Luck but what is the pay off here right now? Whoever the WR1 in 2014/2015/2016 is...they're not here right now.

For me, personally, it's more about playing in deep leagues and just exploring options at the moment in terms of WR3/4/5 spots. The HC came from an explosive passing attack at GB and the OC, Mike Sherman, has also had success offensively in Green Bay in years past so there is some potential upside if the team is forced to throw to catch up in games.The QB situation could generate some flex value at the position as Garrard has been effective in the past and Matt Moore was solid enough last year.Leave no stones unturned essentially.

I understand but in terms of 32 starting QBs in the NFL, where does Miami rank? I know Moore was OK last year but honestly they have to be in the bottom 5 right now. They traded away a very good WR who can anchor the WR1 role on most teams. Philbin is largely unproven. I would love if GB falls flat on their face because I have never liked Mike McCarthy but I tend to think Philbin was not the main cog there. I just smell a little Cam Cameron here but I hope I am wrong. Miami is going to be hard pressed to win 4 or 5 games this year.

 

[loose circuits]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

 

[MAC_32]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

 

[jurb26]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

They are saying he is the #1, not #2. That's a bit different, no?

 

[EBF]

Naanee is a proven mediocrity. I'd be surprised if he suddenly emerged this late in his career.

Chad looked quick on Hard Knocks. If he's anywhere near what he was in his peak then he seems like the guy to get here.

I still think Gates has a lot of upside. Certainly more than Naanee, Hartline, or the rookies. Hard to show that when you're always injured though.

 

[jurb26]

Naanee is a proven mediocrity. I'd be surprised if he suddenly emerged this late in his career.Chad looked quick on Hard Knocks. If he's anywhere near what he was in his peak then he seems like the guy to get here. I still think Gates has a lot of upside. Certainly more than Naanee, Hartline, or the rookies. Hard to show that when you're always injured though.

Upside isnt a word I'd use to discribe anyone in that group. The only hope is that on of these average to bellow average WRs gets enough opportunity to produce something of value. Chad looked awful in NE last year so I'm not sure I'd expect much more in Mia where the entire surrounding cast is significantly worse. What bothered me most about Chad was that he couldn't even pick up the pay book. Now hes got to learn another.

 

[MAC_32]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

They are saying he is the #1, not #2. That's a bit different, no?

Nah, he had a lot of targets last year and didn't do much with them.

 

[Tau837]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Not seeing it. It seems like every offseason for the past few years, people have been calling for Naanee to break out. It didn't happen when he played with Rivers in Norv Turner's offense, so it seems unlikely he's going to do it in Miami with Tannehill.It goes beyond having health issues. Just look at the numbers he's posted in his career. He has 4 TDs in 69 career games. He has never even averaged 40 receiving yards per game in a season. His career ypr is just 11.3. What's to like?

 

[loose circuits]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

They are saying he is the #1, not #2. That's a bit different, no?

Nah, he had a lot of targets last year and didn't do much with them.

Not sure 76 is a lot? Has to be on the tail end for starters

 

[MAC_32]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

They are saying he is the #1, not #2. That's a bit different, no?

Nah, he had a lot of targets last year and didn't do much with them.

Not sure 76 is a lot? Has to be on the tail end for starters

Snaps dwindled as the season went on. 51 in first 9 games, 25 in last 6 (didn't play final game). It's because he's not any good.

 

[jurb26]

I haven't followed Naane all that much but the article stats that he has battled injuries every year. Was that an issue last season?

 

[Tau837]

Im startting to warm to Naane

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/08/08/2938268/receiver-legedu-naanee-making.html

Just like last year when he was the #2 by default this is not meaningful for fantasy, desperation waiver play only.I'm dropping Gates at first FAAB before season starts.

They are saying he is the #1, not #2. That's a bit different, no?

Nah, he had a lot of targets last year and didn't do much with them.

Not sure 76 is a lot? Has to be on the tail end for starters

Snaps dwindled as the season went on. 51 in first 9 games, 25 in last 6 (didn't play final game). It's because he's not any good.

 

[spider321]

Ryan Tannehill is the Dolphins' best WR.

 

[ShaHBucks]

Hartline is off to a bad start but I think he's the best of the group. I was listing to the Audible talking about Miami and they said he doesn't have deep speed which is bull. They said he was the fastest guy on the team and I seen interviews of him talking about running against Ted Ginn in hurdles in high school state finals and things like that. And lets not mention he led the team in ypc at 15.7 so who know what he can do with wr1-2 targets. After an appendectomy and a calf injury I'll pass on him, maybe later in the season I'll revisit this topic.

Chad looked lost in NE. I'm sure he can still beat guy one on one but I doubt he will light it up as the focal point of the offense at this stage of his career.

Bess is Bess. You already know what your getting from him.

 

[loose circuits]

The thing about Naane is last year was really his first full year as a starting wr since he was more of a utility man in college. He has room for improvement despite being older. Seems like hes starting for sure now

 

[Sabertooth]

The thing about Naane is last year was really his first full year as a starting wr since he was more of a utility man in college. He has room for improvement despite being older. Seems like hes starting for sure now

Somebody is going to emerge. I have a question, who was the worst fantasy wideout last year who led their team in wide receiver targets? You'd have to take that as a baseline. Greg Little maybe? Mike Thomas? I don't think Tannehill or Moore will be as bad as Gabbert.

 

[loose circuits]

The thing about Naane is last year was really his first full year as a starting wr since he was more of a utility man in college. He has room for improvement despite being older. Seems like hes starting for sure now

Somebody is going to emerge. I have a question, who was the worst fantasy wideout last year who led their team in wide receiver targets? You'd have to take that as a baseline. Greg Little maybe? Mike Thomas? I don't think Tannehill or Moore will be as bad as Gabbert.

No way they are as bad as Gabbert. Roberto Wallace seems to be emerging as well. They also like the TEs

 

[Penguin]

The thing about Naane is last year was really his first full year as a starting wr since he was more of a utility man in college. He has room for improvement despite being older. Seems like hes starting for sure now

Somebody is going to emerge. I have a question, who was the worst fantasy wideout last year who led their team in wide receiver targets? You'd have to take that as a baseline. Greg Little maybe? Mike Thomas? I don't think Tannehill or Moore will be as bad as Gabbert.

No way they are as bad as Gabbert. Roberto Wallace seems to be emerging as well. They also like the TEs

 

[werdnoynek]

The thing about Naane is last year was really his first full year as a starting wr since he was more of a utility man in college. He has room for improvement despite being older. Seems like hes starting for sure now

Somebody is going to emerge. I have a question, who was the worst fantasy wideout last year who led their team in wide receiver targets? You'd have to take that as a baseline. Greg Little maybe? Mike Thomas? I don't think Tannehill or Moore will be as bad as Gabbert.

No way they are as bad as Gabbert. Roberto Wallace seems to be emerging as well. They also like the TEs

wallace looked good during the preseason game. i think charles clay will be a major beneficiary of the lack of WR talent. he looked great during the game as well.

 

[Xue]

As I have been saying all along, Rishard Matthews is the WR to own on the Dolphins.https://twitter.com/ckparrot/status/241007270371135490

It's pretty clear that Rishard Matthews has outplayed every WR on the Dolphins roster other than Davone Bess, this preseason.

The WRs I would keep are Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Rishard Matthews and Marlon Moore. Cut the rest. Add a guy from somewhere else.

While Hartline is still hurt, Rishard Matthews and Clyde Gates on the outside, Davone Bess in the slot, Marlon Moore on STs and in rotation.

 

[EBF]

It's a trick question.

There is no WR to own on the Dolphins.

My boy Gates sure went down in flames though. Seems like he will be cut. He must be horrible at football to not make the team, given that he's practically got world class speed and hops. If you can't make the 53 man roster competing against this group of terrible WRs then you're not gonna make it anywhere in the league.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I think Bess will be a very productive WR4/5 for someone.

 

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Soley based on the pre-season

Bess

Matthews

Were clearly far and above everyone else.

My prediction for 5 for the final 53 man roster is:

Bess

Matthews

Naane

Hartline (if he can sell it to the coaches)

Marlon Moore (special teams gunner)

50/50 shot the Fins trade for James Jones this week.

 

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Soley based on the pre-seasonBessMatthewsWere clearly far and above everyone else.My prediction for 5 for the final 53 man roster is:BessMatthewsNaaneHartline (if he can sell it to the coaches)Marlon Moore (special teams gunner)50/50 shot the Fins trade for James Jones this week.

Also rumors circulating now that Oakland could be wheeling and dealing too. They might be wanting to get rid of DHB who is on the old rookie salary scale. Oakland may be ready to roll with Streater, Moore, Criner, Ford, DHB being dealt makes sense. I don't think it would be a great move for Miami though.