Donald Jones (1 Viewer)

[doeseatplace]

Doesn't seem to exist to Football Guys anymore. I guess he is dead to them

The fact his issue hasn't been raised by other here leads me to believe perhaps he should not be on my roster

 

[Mr. Peterson]

What issue? Am I missing something? Do you mean Marcus Easly?

 

[Sweet Love]

I own him and the guy certainly had a bizarre line this past weekend...2 catches for 3 yards and a TD?

It is just one week, so in truth, we can't get much from it, but he was targeted 5 times. WW darling, Scott Chandler, was also targeted 5 times, and David Nelson and Steve Johnson were targeted 6 times. Reality is, Stevie was already on a roster and Nelson and Chandler put up better stats...on any other team, he would be considered a WW option after week 1, but the fact that his own team had two other guys come from no where, they are going to get the attention.

Personally, I felt "option #2" in the Buffalo offense would have value, I think I just bet on the wrong one.

 

[Sweet Love]

What issue? Am I missing something? Do you mean Marcus Easly?

Jones jumped in at last minute for the starting role (IIRC). I don't know the receivers there that well, but I think it had less to do with Easley being out (and he is on IR now), and more to do with the fact that he was a fit for the other startingn WR position. Again, not sure if he "beat out" Nelson, or Nelson is more of a slot guy, but there were thoughts he would be entrenched in that role.

 

[doeseatplace]

Mr. All Day--check this weeks projections and he's not listed. Also, he's zeroed out in Lineup Dominator

Sweet Love--probably wouldn't bail quite yet. another fantasy site noted that Jones played 25 more snaps than Nelson, and got 2 RZ targets to Nelson's zero, both of which are significant (at least to me). That being said, I may try and sign Nelson this week to hedge my bets, but not at the expense of signing more attrective WR options

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

What issue? Am I missing something? Do you mean Marcus Easly?

Jones jumped in at last minute for the starting role (IIRC). I don't know the receivers there that well, but I think it had less to do with Easley being out (and he is on IR now), and more to do with the fact that he was a fit for the other startingn WR position. Again, not sure if he "beat out" Nelson, or Nelson is more of a slot guy, but there were thoughts he would be entrenched in that role.

Nelson played in the slot pretty much exclusively during the preseason and I think the Bills like him in there better.Jones got the starts outside during the preseason so he has been the expected starter since the Evans trade, but I'm not really sure why as he doesn't really stand out in any way to me.His value is minimal since Fitzpatrick really doesn't throw outside that often. This is why Evans was not a good fit for this offense, IMO, and why Jones probably won't do a whole lot this year. But, he is a starting WR and will likely have a good game every once in awhile.Weird that he's not in the projections this week. I don't think that was intentional.

 

[doeseatplace]

Good insight Aaron...thanks and good luck against the Raiders this weekend

 

[loose circuits]

Donald Jones is a well kept secret. He's the WR2 in Buffalo and Stevie J and now Chandler will attract some attention. I expect him to have some big weeks here shortly. I got him dirt cheap in 2 dynasty leagues where any starter has value. There is some upside to his game and he was ahead of all those guys when the trade was made, got injured sat out, but still retained his starting gig. Keep an eye on this kid as all reports mention that he's a lunch-pail type of guy. No reason for him to be flying under the radar. He's near the bottom of starting WR's, but there is some value here

 

[wudaben]

Surprisingly Donald Jones received the most active snaps of all the skill players at 63, more than Steve Johnson's 59 and Nelson & Parish at just under 40. Despite those stats I still think Nelson is the sneaky play in this offense as he received the same number of targets and yards as Johnson and finished up last season on a positive note. Nelson's physical attributes compare at or better then Johnsons in most areas and is known as a very good route runner with good hands.

 

[steelwind]

I did a quick top 250 WR forward list and you are right. Donald Jones isn't even on there. Infact, Marcus Easley is on there and he's out for the year. Must be bad typo.

 

[jonboltz]

Fitz was raving about him in the offseason after Evans was traded. He got a concussion early in preseason, but upon his return was immediately put back into the starting lineup, so you know they saw something about him that they like. I did a fair amount of research on him, and supposedly he is a pretty good blocker, which is probably why he is on the field so much.

Buffalo might end up being a carousel for #2 targets throughout the year, but he is worth keeping an eye on in deeper leagues over the next few weeks.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

What issue? Am I missing something? Do you mean Marcus Easly?

Jones jumped in at last minute for the starting role (IIRC). I don't know the receivers there that well, but I think it had less to do with Easley being out (and he is on IR now), and more to do with the fact that he was a fit for the other startingn WR position. Again, not sure if he "beat out" Nelson, or Nelson is more of a slot guy, but there were thoughts he would be entrenched in that role.

Nelson played in the slot pretty much exclusively during the preseason and I think the Bills like him in there better.Jones got the starts outside during the preseason so he has been the expected starter since the Evans trade, but I'm not really sure why as he doesn't really stand out in any way to me.His value is minimal since Fitzpatrick really doesn't throw outside that often. This is why Evans was not a good fit for this offense, IMO, and why Jones probably won't do a whole lot this year. But, he is a starting WR and will likely have a good game every once in awhile.Weird that he's not in the projections this week. I don't think that was intentional.

So your best guess on whom is the guy to own outside of Steve Johnson?

 

[GroveDiesel]

What issue? Am I missing something? Do you mean Marcus Easly?

Jones jumped in at last minute for the starting role (IIRC). I don't know the receivers there that well, but I think it had less to do with Easley being out (and he is on IR now), and more to do with the fact that he was a fit for the other startingn WR position. Again, not sure if he "beat out" Nelson, or Nelson is more of a slot guy, but there were thoughts he would be entrenched in that role.

Nelson played in the slot pretty much exclusively during the preseason and I think the Bills like him in there better.Jones got the starts outside during the preseason so he has been the expected starter since the Evans trade, but I'm not really sure why as he doesn't really stand out in any way to me.His value is minimal since Fitzpatrick really doesn't throw outside that often. This is why Evans was not a good fit for this offense, IMO, and why Jones probably won't do a whole lot this year. But, he is a starting WR and will likely have a good game every once in awhile.Weird that he's not in the projections this week. I don't think that was intentional.

So your best guess on whom is the guy to own outside of Steve Johnson?

I don't think there is one. Stevie Stylz is talented enough he'll get his no matter what. The other guys are all decent receivers that bring different strengths. From game to game it's going to change depending on the opponent's defense and what looks they're getting. Some games they may be taking advantage of weak coverage LBs by throwing to the TE up the seam. Other games it may be the 2nd or 3rd corner that they work on and Jones, Nelson and Spiller may have a lot of receptions. For this week, the Raiders are pretty thin at CB and pretty decent at LB. It wouldn't surprise me if Nelson and Jones have nice weeks.

 

[wudaben]

I don't think there is one. Stevie Stylz is talented enough he'll get his no matter what. The other guys are all decent receivers that bring different strengths. From game to game it's going to change depending on the opponent's defense and what looks they're getting. Some games they may be taking advantage of weak coverage LBs by throwing to the TE up the seam. Other games it may be the 2nd or 3rd corner that they work on and Jones, Nelson and Spiller may have a lot of receptions.

For this week, the Raiders are pretty thin at CB and pretty decent at LB. It wouldn't surprise me if Nelson and Jones have nice weeks.

For what it's worth I posted the following information in the WW Receivers's thread showing a comparison of Nelson and Johnson's stats over the last several games that they played back to last year. During this consecutive stretch of games through Week 1 Nelson has produced numbers largely similar to Johnson.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611366&view=findpost&p=13543488

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=611366&view=findpost&p=13543697

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

early last year, Roscoe was the guy to get. After he went out, Nelson's production picked up. Roscoe missed the preseason and it seems like Nelson may be ahead of him right now so that's where I'd look.

Evans is much better than Donald Jones and he still wasn't really startable last year.

This offense favors guys who run short and intermediate routes, preferably over the middle.

Johnson is clearly the #1 target, but after that Fitz will look for whoever is open and they will often be working out of 3 or 4 wide formations. Being on the field for all those running downs isn't going to help Jones much.

 

[jonboltz]

This offense favors guys who run short and intermediate routes, preferably over the middle.

In all the scouting reports I read on Jones, this was likely his role, and none appeared to indicate he would be a vertical receiver. Is that not the case from what you've heard locally?

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

This offense favors guys who run short and intermediate routes, preferably over the middle.

In all the scouting reports I read on Jones, this was likely his role, and none appeared to indicate he would be a vertical receiver. Is that not the case from what you've heard locally?

I definitely don't consider him a deep threat as I don't think he has the wheels.I'm not really sure how they are going to use him. He just hasn't shown enough yet to really get much of a feel one way or the other.But lining up as the outside receiver just seems to me like it will be tough for him to get involved in the offense. Last week, Fitz definitely seemed to focus more on Johnson, Chandler, and Nelson which made him the 4th or 5th target despite all those snaps he played. Not a great sign but it's early.

 

[Resident A]

Though Jones is listed as Buffalo's WR2, he really isn't. The Bills run mostly 3WR & 4WR sets, and Jones is really the 4th option behind Johnson, Parrish, & Nelson. It also looks like Chandler is going to get more targets too.

Everyone in Buffalo expected Marcus Easley to beat Jones out for the starting spot, possibly even before Week 1, but Easley now has an unknown illness that sent him to IR. So you'd expect Jones to have some promise this year by default, but he may end up 5th in targets among the WR/TEs.

 

[loose circuits]

Though Jones is listed as Buffalo's WR2, he really isn't. The Bills run mostly 3WR & 4WR sets, and Jones is really the 4th option behind Johnson, Parrish, & Nelson. It also looks like Chandler is going to get more targets too.Everyone in Buffalo expected Marcus Easley to beat Jones out for the starting spot, possibly even before Week 1, but Easley now has an unknown illness that sent him to IR. So you'd expect Jones to have some promise this year by default, but he may end up 5th in targets among the WR/TEs.

Easley's illness isn't unknown, it's a heart ailment