Downgrade Forte? (1 Viewer)

[ponchsox]

Matt Forte, RB, CHI

News: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

 

[eoMMan]

Yes, I would definitely downgrade him. He won't get you many points by not playing.

 

[Jack White]

Yes, I would definitely downgrade him. He won't get you many points by not playing.

Pretty sure this thread started before the game.But thanks for your keen insight.

 

[Bayhawks]

Does the signing of Bell suggest that the Bears have injury concerns about M. Bush? If Bush somehow gets injured in a few weeks, does that serve as "evidence" that the Bears do, indeed, have such concerns?

 

[SameSongNDance]

Does the signing of Bell suggest that the Bears have injury concerns about M. Bush? If Bush somehow gets injured in a few weeks, does that serve as "evidence" that the Bears do, indeed, have such concerns?

It more so has to do with the ineptitude of Allen. Every team needs some type of backfield depth. Without this signing, in the event Bush went down, they'd be screwed. Bell is just insurance IMO, who's role couldn't expand past "change of pace" for as long as Bush is healthy.

 

[Bayhawks]

Does the signing of Bell suggest that the Bears have injury concerns about M. Bush? If Bush somehow gets injured in a few weeks, does that serve as "evidence" that the Bears do, indeed, have such concerns?

It more so has to do with the ineptitude of Allen. Every team needs some type of backfield depth. Without this signing, in the event Bush went down, they'd be screwed. Bell is just insurance IMO, who's role couldn't expand past "change of pace" for as long as Bush is healthy.

I agree.

 

[Da Guru]

Matt Forte, RB, CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

Da Bears should have just kept Forte tagged on a one year deal.

 

[zandbak]

Matt Forte, RB, CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

Da Bears should have just kept Forte tagged on a one year deal.

Yes, duh, why didn't they predict a high ankle sprain in week 2? What a bunch of slouches!

 

[Jack White]

Matt Forte, RB, CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

Da Bears should have just kept Forte tagged on a one year deal.

Forte's deal was team-friendly. It's really just a two-year deal.If Ray Rice suffers a freak injury this week, will you say the same about the Ravens?

 

[shnikies]

Matt Forte, RB, CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

Da Bears should have just kept Forte tagged on a one year deal.

Forte's deal was team-friendly. It's really just a two-year deal.If Ray Rice suffers a freak injury this week, will you say the same about the Ravens?

Mr. White, sometimes it's best to ignore stupid comments.

 

[Jack White]

Matt Forte, RB, CHINews: The Chicago Sun-Times reports that Bears running back Matt Forte, who suffered a high ankle sprain Thursday night in the Week 2 loss to Green Bay, could miss 2-6 weeks of action. Chicago is giving Steve Slaton a tryout and Michael Bush is expected to start in Forte's absence.

Da Bears should have just kept Forte tagged on a one year deal.

Forte's deal was team-friendly. It's really just a two-year deal.If Ray Rice suffers a freak injury this week, will you say the same about the Ravens?

Mr. White, sometimes it's best to ignore stupid comments.

Duly noted. Thank you.

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[Purple_King]

Apparently, Forte doesn't have a high ankle sprain.

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8390381/chicago-bears-lovie-smith-says-matt-forte-high-ankle-sprain

 

[zandbak]

UPGRADE FORTE!

 

[Bad_Mo]

Yeah, OK, Lovie.

First of all, I trust no man with the first name of Lovie. Secondly, does Lovie think people are stupid? If he doesn't have a HAS, then maybe its his knee. Definitely hurt something though.

 

[damageinc]

Could be just a regular sprain . 1-3 weeks instead of the 4-6 weeks. If true good news for Forte owners. Expect him back right after the bye. Maybe even before. Again as we all learned in the past, most coaches do not tell the real story.

 

[CrazyFox]

Anyone remember Andre Johnson last year?

Coach said every week he was just about ready to play and it was all unicorns and rainbows about how his injury wasn't serious.

Just saying coaches don't always tell the truth and can burn you in fantasy.

 

[JuniorNB]

I think bringing Steve Slaton in is a hint at what the real story is. If it was 1-3 weeks, I don't think the Bears would be looking to replace his roster spot.

 

[zandbak]

I think bringing Steve Slaton in is a hint at what the real story is. If it was 1-3 weeks, I don't think the Bears would be looking to replace his roster spot.

Huh? It's not like they worked on making a trade. They worked out some scrub that got cut from his previous team to see if there was anything of value.

 

[Jack White]

I think bringing Steve Slaton in is a hint at what the real story is. If it was 1-3 weeks, I don't think the Bears would be looking to replace his roster spot.

They're not looking to replace his roster spot (um, Forte is still in the roster).Just depth, as any team in this situation would do.

 

[RBM]

I still think week 7 is the next time we see him. With the bye week 6 that is 3 1/2 games missed.

 

[Jack White]

I still think week 7 is the next time we see him. With the bye week 6 that is 3 1/2 games missed.

But if it really isn't a high ankle sprain, he could return before the bye.

 

[FarEastKilla]

"Kareem Coplenad, NFL.com:

“A source who has spoken with Forte told NFL.com and NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport the running back has suffered a high ankle sprain, but the Bears do not have a clear timetable for his return. Forte’s availability will depend on his pain tolerance, the source said.”

Simon Samano, USA Today:

“A source close to Forte told NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport on Friday that Forte has suffered the dreaded high ankle sprain, adding that the Bears have no timetable on Forte’s return.”

Michael David Smith, Pro Football Talk:

“The injury that knocked Bears running back Matt Forte out of Thursday night’s loss to the Packers is likely to knock him out of more games as well.

Although a more thorough diagnosis is likely to come today, the Bears believe Forte suffered a high ankle sprain, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports.”

Sporting News:

“Matt Forte, the Chicago Bears’ leading rusher the past four seasons, has a high ankle sprain, which likely will sideline him several weeks, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.”

CBS Sports:

“The Bears believe the injury that knocked Matt Forte out of Thursday’s game is a high-ankle sprain.”

...

Then there is the most respected, father of sports medicine, world renown Lovie "the Medical frontier" Smith's legendary diagnoses- "has some soreness"

 

[Jack White]

"Kareem Coplenad, NFL.com: “A source who has spoken with Forte told NFL.com and NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport the running back has suffered a high ankle sprain, but the Bears do not have a clear timetable for his return. Forte’s availability will depend on his pain tolerance, the source said.”Simon Samano, USA Today: “A source close to Forte told NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport on Friday that Forte has suffered the dreaded high ankle sprain, adding that the Bears have no timetable on Forte’s return.”Michael David Smith, Pro Football Talk: “The injury that knocked Bears running back Matt Forte out of Thursday night’s loss to the Packers is likely to knock him out of more games as well. Although a more thorough diagnosis is likely to come today, the Bears believe Forte suffered a high ankle sprain, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports.”Sporting News: “Matt Forte, the Chicago Bears’ leading rusher the past four seasons, has a high ankle sprain, which likely will sideline him several weeks, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.”CBS Sports: “The Bears believe the injury that knocked Matt Forte out of Thursday’s game is a high-ankle sprain.”...Then there is the most respected, father of sports medicine, world renown Lovie "the Medical frontier" Smith's lendary diagnoses- "has some soreness"

How do you know when a politician (head coach) is lying?When his lips are moving.

 

[CrazyFox]

Thing that bothers me here is that word all weekend was high ankle sprain...and no comments or any kind of word from the team comes out disputing that.

At the same time they work out a couple of running backs over the weekend for depth purposes.

Then on Monday they say it's not a high ankle sprain, but don't really get into any specific details or give a time frame.

Seems shady to me.

 

[Bayhawks]

Thing that bothers me here is that word all weekend was high ankle sprain...and no comments or any kind of word from the team comes out disputing that. At the same time they work out a couple of running backs over the weekend for depth purposes. Then on Monday they say it's not a high ankle sprain, but don't really get into any specific details or give a time frame. Seems shady to me.

Coaches in the NFL are notorious for being "sneaky" with injury reports. I don't know why. In a case like this, there isn't much to be gained from it. It's not like the Rams are going to spend a lot of time preparing for Forte if he doesn't practice all week.If I were a Forte owner, I would "expect" he'll be back after the bye week, and anything before that is a bonus.

 

[Jack White]

Thing that bothers me here is that word all weekend was high ankle sprain...and no comments or any kind of word from the team comes out disputing that.

At the same time they work out a couple of running backs over the weekend for depth purposes.

Then on Monday they say it's not a high ankle sprain, but don't really get into any specific details or give a time frame.

Seems shady to me.

It may or may not be shady.But the fact is even if Forte misses only a couple games, they need to bring in someone at the position.

That's just common sense.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

shark move is to buy forte before this leaks out

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657215&view=findpost&p=14776014

 

[Jack White]

shark move is to buy forte before this leaks outhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657215&view=findpost&p=14776014

What do you think you might be able to buy him for?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

shark move is to buy forte before this leaks outhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657215&view=findpost&p=14776014

What do you think you might be able to buy him for?

I'm contemplating swapping Deangelo and Stewart for forte and bush. I think the chi running game is more assured (and cutler/bell/Allen won't steal 10% of what newton/tollbert will...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Thing that bothers me here is that word all weekend was high ankle sprain...and no comments or any kind of word from the team comes out disputing that.

At the same time they work out a couple of running backs over the weekend for depth purposes.

Then on Monday they say it's not a high ankle sprain, but don't really get into any specific details or give a time frame.

Seems shady to me.

It may or may not be shady.But the fact is even if Forte misses only a couple games, they need to bring in someone at the position.

That's just common sense.

They just signed back Kahlil bell

 

[cvnpoka]

silly me - i thought there would be Forte injury update in here.....

pretty silly for confusing this thread for rotoworld

 

[Jack White]

shark move is to buy forte before this leaks outhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657215&view=findpost&p=14776014

What do you think you might be able to buy him for?

I'm contemplating swapping Deangelo and Stewart for forte and bush. I think the chi running game is more assured (and cutler/bell/Allen won't steal 10% of what newton/tollbert will...

That's a pipe dream.

 

[Jack White]

Thing that bothers me here is that word all weekend was high ankle sprain...and no comments or any kind of word from the team comes out disputing that.

At the same time they work out a couple of running backs over the weekend for depth purposes.

Then on Monday they say it's not a high ankle sprain, but don't really get into any specific details or give a time frame.

Seems shady to me.

It may or may not be shady.But the fact is even if Forte misses only a couple games, they need to bring in someone at the position.

That's just common sense.

They just signed back Kahlil bell

Yes, he broke the news Saturday on--where else--Twitter.See, that makes sense. He knows their personnel and some of the coaches. He's a body to fill the spot short term.

 

[CrazyFox]

It may or may not be shady.

But the fact is even if Forte misses only a couple games, they need to bring in someone at the position.

That's just common sense.

I agree it's common sense to get someone else at the position just in case. Even if it's nothing, it's a long season and anything can happen. I just worry about whether they are downplaying this and original reports of high ankle sprain are closer to the truth. And that he'll be a last minute call for the next few weeks only to ultimately sit out past the bye anyway.

But maybe I'm just a panic owner. I did just read the link that was posted that says he was running on it....so maybe Forte owners did dodge a bullet here?

 

[Kenny Powers]

So - let's say you have a solid RB2 waiting in the wings - if you trade FOR Forte, what do you think of his chances of doing damage in the playoffs?Because I might do this.

This is what Im thinking. On the 2 teams I have Bush, Id rather trade for Forte than trade off Bush. Im pretty solid all around, thinking about something like McGahee/Lafell for Forte. My other team it might be more difficult as Bush is my clear RB3 ahead of Dwyer and Tate and Im not trading Ridley for a banged up Forte.

McGahee and LaFell for Forte?Matt Forte?Sure.

You can enjoy your stud on the bench for the next month plus and downplay offers for him.McGahee just got 120+ yds and 2 TDs in a game that DEN was getting owned in. Lafell is currently a top 15 WR in my non-PPR league.Glad I didnt actually offer this for Forte!!

 

[Jack White]

So - let's say you have a solid RB2 waiting in the wings - if you trade FOR Forte, what do you think of his chances of doing damage in the playoffs?Because I might do this.

This is what Im thinking. On the 2 teams I have Bush, Id rather trade for Forte than trade off Bush. Im pretty solid all around, thinking about something like McGahee/Lafell for Forte. My other team it might be more difficult as Bush is my clear RB3 ahead of Dwyer and Tate and Im not trading Ridley for a banged up Forte.

McGahee and LaFell for Forte?Matt Forte?Sure.

You can enjoy your stud on the bench for the next month plus and downplay offers for him.McGahee just got 120+ yds and 2 TDs in a game that DEN was getting owned in. Lafell is currently a top 15 WR in my non-PPR league.Glad I didnt actually offer this for Forte!!

One, you don't know if he will miss a month.Two, both those guys each likely has enjoyed his best game of the year.Pass.

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

Yes, I would definitely downgrade him. He won't get you many points by not playing.

This made me laugh, and I have to say that I love your avatar eoMMan

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

shark move is to buy forte before this leaks outhttp://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=657215&view=findpost&p=14776014

What do you think you might be able to buy him for?

I'm contemplating swapping Deangelo and Stewart for forte and bush. I think the chi running game is more assured (and cutler/bell/Allen won't steal 10% of what newton/tollbert will...

This is a no brainer for you imo. You're guaranteed the primary back in a good offense with Forte/Bush. Of course I'm a so take it with a grain of salt, but still

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

A few more things while I'm hijacking this thread.

1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.

2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

 

[Kuz]

A few more things while I'm hijacking this thread. 1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Interesting. I was thinking about throwing a feeler out to the Forte owner with McGahee after last nights game. I own Bush. Not sure if he would bite or not

 

[Jack White]

A few more things while I'm hijacking this thread. 1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Why would you "hope" for the Bears best player to not to return until Week 7?If he's healthy, he'll play. If he's not, he won't. There are only 16 games in a season. You don't have a guy miss one unless he can't gtherwise, play.

 

[Kenny Powers]

1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Thank you. I think Jack White is delusional as far as how no Forte for at least a month negatively impacts your fantasy team (as well as McGahee's value). Forte was a 1st or 2nd round pick for you in redraft, so if he's out your team is hurting for as long as that is. Maybe you have the depth where it wont kill you, but your depth isnt putting up Forte numbers once you plug them in.I also got a nice laugh out of JW's comment how McGahee and Lafell have likely had their best game of the year. What knowledge!! Lafell's game of the year is going to be 65/1??? Please. McGahee may have had his his best game of the year, but he's got a shot to be a low end RB1. What are the chances Forte has a game with 120+ yds and 2 TDs?? Well, its less than McGahee at least.

 

[Kenny Powers]

A few more things while I'm hijacking this thread. 1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Why would you "hope" for the Bears best player to not to return until Week 7?If he's healthy, he'll play. If he's not, he won't.

What's healthy? 80%? 90%? 100%? Midway said he wants him to be 100%, so obviously thats why you keep him out until after the bye. I think we could both agree Forte is important enough to CHI that you dont want to risk re-injury by bringing him back too early. They have a very capable backup, and a very good passing game, no reason to rush Forte back at this point.

 

[Jack White]

A few more things while I'm hijacking this thread. 1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Why would you "hope" for the Bears best player to not to return until Week 7?If he's healthy, he'll play. If he's not, he won't.

What's healthy? 80%? 90%? 100%? Midway said he wants him to be 100%, so obviously thats why you keep him out until after the bye. I think we could both agree Forte is important enough to CHI that you dont want to risk re-injury by bringing him back too early. They have a very capable backup, and a very good passing game, no reason to rush Forte back at this point.

I don't see it as a matter of rushing him back. Like I said (and I think if you had a media credential at Halas Hall and could ask Lovie yourself, he'd tell you the same thing), players should play when they're ready to play. No sooner and no later. These guys are football players. They're going to have to play through pain. It's part of the gig. He's not a running back, but take a look at Hakeem Nicks. Not 100%, and playing through pain, but he can get out there and produce.If you expect players to be 100% before they can play, 90% of the league would be out.

 

[Jack White]

1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Thank you. I think Jack White is delusional as far as how no Forte for at least a month negatively impacts your fantasy team (as well as McGahee's value). Forte was a 1st or 2nd round pick for you in redraft, so if he's out your team is hurting for as long as that is. Maybe you have the depth where it wont kill you, but your depth isnt putting up Forte numbers once you plug them in.I also got a nice laugh out of JW's comment how McGahee and Lafell have likely had their best game of the year. What knowledge!! Lafell's game of the year is going to be 65/1??? Please. McGahee may have had his his best game of the year, but he's got a shot to be a low end RB1. What are the chances Forte has a game with 120+ yds and 2 TDs?? Well, its less than McGahee at least.

Well, any fantasy player is going to take a hit if his first or second round pick misses a few games. But McGahee was probably a 5th or 6th round pick. LaFell, much lower. If you have some depth and can ride out the missed games, wouldn't you rather have Forte in the second half and your playoffs? I'm not clairvoyant, of course, on whether LaFell or McGahee can repeat the numbers they put up this week. I'm just speculating. That's all we can do in this game. But ask yourself why someone who owned LaFell and McGahee would be willing to give them up for Forte. Maybe because he knows he'd also rather have Forte.It's not a horrible trade, but I wouldn't do it.

 

[Kenny Powers]

1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Thank you. I think Jack White is delusional as far as how no Forte for at least a month negatively impacts your fantasy team (as well as McGahee's value). Forte was a 1st or 2nd round pick for you in redraft, so if he's out your team is hurting for as long as that is. Maybe you have the depth where it wont kill you, but your depth isnt putting up Forte numbers once you plug them in.I also got a nice laugh out of JW's comment how McGahee and Lafell have likely had their best game of the year. What knowledge!! Lafell's game of the year is going to be 65/1??? Please. McGahee may have had his his best game of the year, but he's got a shot to be a low end RB1. What are the chances Forte has a game with 120+ yds and 2 TDs?? Well, its less than McGahee at least.

Well, any fantasy player is going to take a hit if his first or second round pick misses a few games. But McGahee was probably a 5th or 6th round pick. LaFell, much lower. If you have some depth and can ride out the missed games, wouldn't you rather have Forte in the second half and your playoffs? I'm not clairvoyant, of course, on whether LaFell or McGahee can repeat the numbers they put up this week. I'm just speculating. That's all we can do in this game. But ask yourself why someone who owned LaFell and McGahee would be willing to give them up for Forte. Maybe because he knows he'd also rather have Forte.It's not a horrible trade, but I wouldn't do it.

At this point, ADP from before the season is meaningless. Just because Forte was a top pick, and another guy who is performing wasnt, doesnt mean a trade isnt worthwhile.

 

[therush]

Is a guy like AlfMo even value for Forte?

 

[Jack White]

Is a guy like AlfMo even value for Forte?

PPR, no way.Standard, no.

 

[Jack White]

1. As a serious Bears fan and Forte owner who got pimped on the handcuff, I'm hoping that the Bears keep Forte out until after the bye. That would be week 7, meaning he misses 3 games and gets 5.5 weeks to heal. You could rush him back for week 5 but that knocks 40% off the healing time. I want him to be 100% for the Bears sake and my own.2. I would trade Forte for McGahee and LaFell in an instant. McGahee was very productive last year and has looked great this year, I don't see any reason why he'd decline at this point. And LaFell has already been productive and if Steve Smith's foot/knee/whatever keep him from playing then he's the #1 WR in a Cam Newton offense.

Thank you. I think Jack White is delusional as far as how no Forte for at least a month negatively impacts your fantasy team (as well as McGahee's value). Forte was a 1st or 2nd round pick for you in redraft, so if he's out your team is hurting for as long as that is. Maybe you have the depth where it wont kill you, but your depth isnt putting up Forte numbers once you plug them in.I also got a nice laugh out of JW's comment how McGahee and Lafell have likely had their best game of the year. What knowledge!! Lafell's game of the year is going to be 65/1??? Please. McGahee may have had his his best game of the year, but he's got a shot to be a low end RB1. What are the chances Forte has a game with 120+ yds and 2 TDs?? Well, its less than McGahee at least.

Well, any fantasy player is going to take a hit if his first or second round pick misses a few games. But McGahee was probably a 5th or 6th round pick. LaFell, much lower. If you have some depth and can ride out the missed games, wouldn't you rather have Forte in the second half and your playoffs? I'm not clairvoyant, of course, on whether LaFell or McGahee can repeat the numbers they put up this week. I'm just speculating. That's all we can do in this game. But ask yourself why someone who owned LaFell and McGahee would be willing to give them up for Forte. Maybe because he knows he'd also rather have Forte.It's not a horrible trade, but I wouldn't do it.

At this point, ADP from before the season is meaningless. Just because Forte was a top pick, and another guy who is performing wasnt, doesnt mean a trade isnt worthwhile.

What can I say? I've already said I would not trade Forte for those guys. If you would, that's great.In my league, McGahee has 6.4 points and 26.4 points. Maybe you think the latter game will be closer to his every-week value. I do not.ADP might not mean anything to you--and that's a fair point in a vacuum--but it does matter if you're trying to look ahead to Week 7-13 and the playoffs. For those weeks, I'd rather have Forte than McGahee. That is absolutely a reflection of his draft value.

 

[CrazyFox]

So no real update yet? Other than...we are hopeful...and other bs?

Why am I not surprised?