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Eagles address defensive back - safety though, not corner.

Young safeties now with Nate Allen and now Jaiquawn Jarrett.

Still need corner help.

 
Gotta love the Giants, like the value drafter you hate in your fantasy draft who gets the guy who falls too far for no good reason in every round. Giants defensive has ridiculous depth on the DL and in the secondary. They lack playmakers at LB and they need Kenny Phillips to return to pre-injury form, but :eek: at NYG depth chart on the DL and at CB
I would use the draft to take BPA. I don't draft for need. I use free agency to fill needs.
 
Gotta love the Giants, like the value drafter you hate in your fantasy draft who gets the guy who falls too far for no good reason in every round. Giants defensive has ridiculous depth on the DL and in the secondary. They lack playmakers at LB and they need Kenny Phillips to return to pre-injury form, but :eek: at NYG depth chart on the DL and at CB
Pick makes sense, Cofield wants out and Bernard hasn't lived up to his contract. There are some good LB that'll be FA, maybe that's their plan.
 
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Well, the Eagles really were serious about moving on from Mikell. Jarrett should be your #1 fantasy safety.
Agreed. "Reached" a couple of rounds early for him, maybe, but he's the presumptive SS here and a much better bet for tackles than Rahim Moore.
One thing about the Eagles, they really don't play a strong or weak/free safety. They're very "even" and will use either safety (if they trust them both) interchangeably.
 
Gotta love the Giants, like the value drafter you hate in your fantasy draft who gets the guy who falls too far for no good reason in every round. Giants defensive has ridiculous depth on the DL and in the secondary. They lack playmakers at LB and they need Kenny Phillips to return to pre-injury form, but :eek: at NYG depth chart on the DL and at CB
I would use the draft to take BPA. I don't draft for need. I use free agency to fill needs.
One of the best arguments of having the draft ahead of free agency.
 
Paea replaces Harris. Good pick.
It's hard for a Cowboy fan to complain about the first two picks but that have to address weaknesses up the middle on both sides of the ball. I am barely interested in the rest of the draft after DTs, ILBs, and guards.Hey guys, I'm barely keeping up with the draft and falling way behind the discussion. Let's see Kendricks win a starting job before we start counting receptions. I think the competition there is pretty good and he will have a mimimal role next year. I think he could work out if things go his way with injuries and whatever because the QB is going to work out, but it was a poor pick because of players they passed on. Comparing him to Hernandez is a bit much, no? Nice hands, a little stiff, but good speed, nothing spectacular. Right?
 
Shane Vereen to NE. Love him as a 3rd down / PPR back to catch the ball out of the backfield. Interesting pick though with Woodhead already there.

 
Paea replaces Harris. Good pick.
Maybe not the explosive upside of Liuget or Austin, but a pretty good 3-technique prospect.
Jene, tell us why he's a good 3-technique prospect. Not questioning you, just want to see you explain it to folks here.
3-technique tackle aligns between the offensive guard and tackle, often seeing single blocking v the guard. Put a big tackle who can get off the ball quickly (Warren Sapp, La'Roi Glover, Tommie Harris previously and others) in that role and you'll have a havoc-wreaker against the run and pass. The Bears don't use lots of Tampa-2, but Lovie likes to use a 3-tech in most packages.Paea fits the bill.

Deeper discussion of defensive line techniques, the Tampa-2 and 3-technique players here and here from my defensive series on the Fifth Down blog and FBG.

 
Woooo Big fantasy pick there.

Vereen will play a role similar to Felix Jones imo. Great flex play, but not necessarily a bread and butter guy. The NE destination will get him overdrafted slightly, but I really cant blame people who take Vereen #6. Woodhead and BJGE owners knew an RB pick had to be coming and this one hurts because it cuts into both of their roles. NE backfield goes deeper into RBBC fantasy hell, but love the pick for them.

 
Well, the Eagles really were serious about moving on from Mikell. Jarrett should be your #1 fantasy safety.
Agreed. "Reached" a couple of rounds early for him, maybe, but he's the presumptive SS here and a much better bet for tackles than Rahim Moore.
One thing about the Eagles, they really don't play a strong or weak/free safety. They're very "even" and will use either safety (if they trust them both) interchangeably.
Good point here. Certainly didn't trust Mikell, and used him much more in the box. We'll see if that's a trend with McDermott; Jarrett certainly more capable in coverage than Mikell.
 
Woooo Big fantasy pick there.Vereen will play a role similar to Felix Jones imo. Great flex play, but not necessarily a bread and butter guy. The NE destination will get him overdrafted slightly, but I really cant blame people who take Vereen #6. Woodhead and BJGE owners knew an RB pick had to be coming and this one hurts because it cuts into both of their roles. NE backfield goes deeper into RBBC fantasy hell, but love the pick for them.
Really? I can't imagine picking him anywhere near 6 with Woodhead and BJGE. MIght have some big games, but figuring out when those will happen will be a nightmare, imo.
 
Mikel LeShoure still hanging around, eh? Think he falls to third round? Would this be a shocker to you guys?
Not really. I liked Shonn Greene as a better RB prospect and he fell to the 3rd.Also like Vereen alot.
As a guy who rated LeShoure lower than most, I agree with you in terms of vision and after contact skills. LeShoure could wind up a stud in that way, but I though there were other backs who demonstrated those skills more effectively and consistently. Leshoure to me is a "minor" worry in terms of some of his tendencies. Not enough to warrant him falling past round three, but enough to see why a team would chose Vereen. Still surprised it happened though.
 
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Woooo Big fantasy pick there.Vereen will play a role similar to Felix Jones imo. Great flex play, but not necessarily a bread and butter guy. The NE destination will get him overdrafted slightly, but I really cant blame people who take Vereen #6. Woodhead and BJGE owners knew an RB pick had to be coming and this one hurts because it cuts into both of their roles. NE backfield goes deeper into RBBC fantasy hell, but love the pick for them.
Who you got 4 and 5?
 
Vereen's value plummets on the Patriots, imo. Not a great spot for him in fantasy purposes.
huh? The Pats are terrific at running the ball, one of the best in the league. BJGE being there limits his upside for the time being, but long term, NE is great. He won't get an everydown role, but almost none of the backs in this draft will.
 
Woooo Big fantasy pick there.Vereen will play a role similar to Felix Jones imo. Great flex play, but not necessarily a bread and butter guy. The NE destination will get him overdrafted slightly, but I really cant blame people who take Vereen #6. Woodhead and BJGE owners knew an RB pick had to be coming and this one hurts because it cuts into both of their roles. NE backfield goes deeper into RBBC fantasy hell, but love the pick for them.
Who you got 4 and 5?
It will be LeShoure and Williams, not sure the order yet. Big drop to #6 no matter who it is
 
Torrey Smith with nice upside as a Raven, potential to be their #1 in a few years. Don't like the player as much as some guys still on the board, but situation is terrific long term.

 
wow... Leshoure to spell Best? I would think they had bigger needs at CB...

 
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Paea replaces Harris. Good pick.
Maybe not the explosive upside of Liuget or Austin, but a pretty good 3-technique prospect.
Jene, tell us why he's a good 3-technique prospect. Not questioning you, just want to see you explain it to folks here.
3-technique tackle aligns between the offensive guard and tackle, often seeing single blocking v the guard. Put a big tackle who can get off the ball quickly (Warren Sapp, La'Roi Glover, Tommie Harris previously and others) in that role and you'll have a havoc-wreaker against the run and pass. The Bears don't use lots of Tampa-2, but Lovie likes to use a 3-tech in most packages.Paea fits the bill.

Deeper discussion of defensive line techniques, the Tampa-2 and 3-technique players here and here from my defensive series on the Fifth Down blog and FBG.
Wow. Nice. :thumbup:
 
Oof @ Jahvid Best.
and :excited: Stafford owners and Lions fans.It's a two back league now and the Lions have two amazingly talented backs. Schwartz pulled no punches about wanting to run and run well as soon as he took over the team.It's beginning to look like all three top backs from last year's class will disappoint from a fantasy perspective.
 
Torrey Smith with nice upside as a Raven, potential to be their #1 in a few years. Don't like the player as much as some guys still on the board, but situation is terrific long term.
Potential is there for sure, but I think he's a bit too much of a body-catcher. He can take the top off of the defense, but is his route running strong enough? I tend to see DHB 2.0.
 
Paea replaces Harris. Good pick.
Maybe not the explosive upside of Liuget or Austin, but a pretty good 3-technique prospect.
Jene, tell us why he's a good 3-technique prospect. Not questioning you, just want to see you explain it to folks here.
3-technique tackle aligns between the offensive guard and tackle, often seeing single blocking v the guard. Put a big tackle who can get off the ball quickly (Warren Sapp, La'Roi Glover, Tommie Harris previously and others) in that role and you'll have a havoc-wreaker against the run and pass. The Bears don't use lots of Tampa-2, but Lovie likes to use a 3-tech in most packages.Paea fits the bill.

Deeper discussion of defensive line techniques, the Tampa-2 and 3-technique players here and here from my defensive series on the Fifth Down blog and FBG.
Wow. Nice. :thumbup:
That's why Jene Bramel is here... :thumbup:
 
Vereen's value plummets on the Patriots, imo. Not a great spot for him in fantasy purposes.
One week it's Woodhead,, one week its BGE, one week it's Vareen.....no thanks
This is kind of how I see it Sig. So many weapons there, that Vereen will never be a bellcow. Lots of guys I like more than him.
Things rarely look very clean on draft day for the top 10-15 fantasy players. If you liked Vereen pre-draft, it's a good spot for him. If you didn't, don't worry about it.I don't know if Vereen can be a special/impact back, but I do know that the Patriots do not have a special/impact back on their roster, so if he can be, nobody is going to stand in his way.
 

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