Draft Day trade speculation between Hou and Den (1 Viewer)

[brednbuddah]

Sorry if a Honda, but did anyone else hear about Denver giving up their 1st (#21), 2nd (#56) and one of their 3rds (#70 or #86) to Houston for the #10 overall pick to select Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska?

Heard it on Sirius during the ride home and they made it sound like it was all but a done deal.

 

[3C's]

That seems like a bit much for Carriker.

 

[Mr. Pink]

It may sound like a bit much for Carriker, but are the Texans even getting equal value to trade back 11 spots in the 1st round?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

I could see Denver moving up, but not for Carriker.

 

[chris1969]

Willis?

 

[brednbuddah]

I could see Denver moving up, but not for Carriker.

just saw this in another thread: Denver's wish list as per ESPN

 

[Buckna]

#10 = 1300 points

#21 = 800 points

#56 = 340 points

#86 = 160 points

total = 1300 points

 

[coolnerd]

Sorry if a Honda, but did anyone else hear about Denver giving up their 1st (#21), 2nd (#56) and one of their 3rds (#70 or #86) to Houston for the #10 overall pick to select Adam Carriker, DE, Nebraska?

Heard it on Sirius during the ride home and they made it sound like it was all but a done deal.

I burried a link to rumor in the Texans off-season thread, which is a place only few people dare to go.http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2007draft.html

They updated it today

Mississippi LB Patrick Willis is really picking up steam this week heading into the Draft...I've had Willis pegged as the Bills first round selection in My Mock for nearly two months now...but...the possibility that Willis will be on the board when the Bills pick at #12 is growing smaller by the day...these are the two scenarios in which Willis will make it into the Top 10 of the Draft...#1 - Patrick Willis will become a Lion if the Lions deal the second overall pick in the Draft to the Falcons because DE Gaines Adams (their first preference) will already be off the board at pick #8...#2 - I pointed out in My 04/18 column that the Texans and Broncos could become trade partners on Saturday because the Texans want to move down to recoup picks that they dealt in the Matt Schaub trade...the Broncos on the other hand want to move up to land a top-flight DE with their pick...however...the latest steam has the Broncos being interested in replacing Al Wilson with Patrick Willis in the middle of the their defense and a trade with the Texans picking at #10 would accomplish just that if the Lions don't move down and take Willis themselves...and last but not least...the Niners picking before Buffalo could take Patrick Willis with their pick at #11.

but the site had the rumor last week

04/18...(5:30)...Trade rumors continue to circulate throughout the league as the sand in the hour-glass continues to dwindle leading up to the Draft...just yesterday I mentioned that the Texans were interested in moving down in the Draft and one day later the Denver Broncos have entered the trade rumor circle today as a team that is interested in moving up in the Draft...back in my 03/19 column I mentioned that the Broncos were interested in trading up and had contacted the Lions about the availability of the second pick in the Draft...the Broncos have been unsuccessful in their attempt to land a pass-rushing DE this off season but have an extra third round pick (#70) that they could package with their own third rounder (#86) which according to the NFL trade chart would put them in the range to move up to the Texans pick at #10...there's a good chance that both DE's Jamall Anderson and Adam Carricker will both still be on the board at the Texans pick...and...both teams are very familiar with each other since Texans Coach Gary Kubiak and GM Rick Smith both worked together at Denver with Mike Shanahan.

 

[rascal]

It's a big defensive playmaker IMO.

They have a lot of holes on defense, and with Gold probably being gone next year as well, they will have another one at LB. The Broncos were not happy with their LB play and told Wilson and Gold exactly that. They thought Wilson had more trade value, so they tried to unload him. But they screwed up on him being injured. But they can't afford to get rid of both Gold and Wilson in the same offseason, so Gold is sticking around for another year to basically prove himself.

The only defensive starters currently that I honestly expect to be back next year are Champ, Bly, DJ, and probably Warren. Ekuban is a FA, the DT next to Warren is vacant, the other DE is vacant (although most expect Dumervil to start), Wilson is gone, Gold is probably gone, Lynch has 1-2 years left, and the other safety spot is up in the air.

I think they will move up to get Jamaal, Okoye, Branch (despite all the rumors I still expect him to go top 15), Willis, or Landry. If they can't get one of those players I expect them to trade down from 21 or trade the first for a player (Briggs, Rogers, or something and not necessarily straight up).

 

[Donnybrook]

Willis?

Could be? Who would Houston take at 21? Joe Staley?

 

[coolnerd]

Willis?

Could be? Who would Houston take at 21? Joe Stayley (SP?)?

In terms of immediate needs, it could also be FS, CB, DE, WR. All of those positions have candidate that should be available around 21. The Texans are still short on NFL quality players, so having the extra picks in the 2nd and 3rd round has more value to them.

 

[brednbuddah]

as per Sirius NFL radio...

speculation between Hou and Den is consistent as far as terms, but could be for Denver to select Willis...

also heard a report that Denver could look to move to PIttsburgh´s spot in the 1st if things don work out with Hou.

common thread here, Denver is going to move up.

 

[moleculo]

There is a history here: in 2004 denver traded from 24 to 17 to draft DJ Williams. And, of course, last year Denver traded up to snag Cutler. I don't think the Cutler deal was planned in advance, I believe that it was kind of a "lets make a deal if he slips" type of thing - I don't really think they were specifically targeting Cutler at this time last year.

I do think that Denver needs a play maker on defense now, not a potiental starter next year. Denver is making moves like they are expecting a SB run, and frankly, that's what I'm expecting. It makes too much sense to trade up at this point.

I have been hearing the Willis rumors also, btw.

 

[beachbum]

1- Patrick Willis

2- Trade up to #2 with DET if the Raiders don't take Calvin Johnson (Denver trades #10 and next years first rounder)

3- Adrian Peterson

always a guessing game with Shanahan, but I'm predicting one of these

 

[KoolKat]

There is a history here: in 2004 denver traded from 24 to 17 to draft DJ Williams. And, of course, last year Denver traded up to snag Cutler. I don't think the Cutler deal was planned in advance, I believe that it was kind of a "lets make a deal if he slips" type of thing - I don't really think they were specifically targeting Cutler at this time last year.I do think that Denver needs a play maker on defense now, not a potiental starter next year. Denver is making moves like they are expecting a SB run, and frankly, that's what I'm expecting. It makes too much sense to trade up at this point.I have been hearing the Willis rumors also, btw.

I doubt we take Willis after we signed Holdman last night. But who really knows, and I would be soo happy if we take Okoye at 10. Assuming this is valid.

 

[Kit Fisto]

1- Patrick Willis

2- Trade up to #2 with DET if the Raiders don't take Calvin Johnson (Denver trades #10 and next years first rounder)

3- Adrian Peterson

always a guessing game with Shanahan, but I'm predicting one of these

Right there.

 

[QUEZILLA]

Many are considering him the best defensive line prospect in the draft. He was more impressive on the north squad at the senior bowl than Okoye, and he benched more than G. Adams at the combine. THe Buc's were very high on him, and i wouldn't be surprised if they took him at #4 if JT and CJ are gone.

 

[moleculo]

There is a history here: in 2004 denver traded from 24 to 17 to draft DJ Williams. And, of course, last year Denver traded up to snag Cutler. I don't think the Cutler deal was planned in advance, I believe that it was kind of a "lets make a deal if he slips" type of thing - I don't really think they were specifically targeting Cutler at this time last year.I do think that Denver needs a play maker on defense now, not a potiental starter next year. Denver is making moves like they are expecting a SB run, and frankly, that's what I'm expecting. It makes too much sense to trade up at this point.I have been hearing the Willis rumors also, btw.

I doubt we take Willis after we signed Holdman last night. But who really knows, and I would be soo happy if we take Okoye at 10. Assuming this is valid.

I'm not convinced Holdman was brought in to start.

 

[KoolKat]

There is a history here: in 2004 denver traded from 24 to 17 to draft DJ Williams. And, of course, last year Denver traded up to snag Cutler. I don't think the Cutler deal was planned in advance, I believe that it was kind of a "lets make a deal if he slips" type of thing - I don't really think they were specifically targeting Cutler at this time last year.I do think that Denver needs a play maker on defense now, not a potiental starter next year. Denver is making moves like they are expecting a SB run, and frankly, that's what I'm expecting. It makes too much sense to trade up at this point.I have been hearing the Willis rumors also, btw.

I doubt we take Willis after we signed Holdman last night. But who really knows, and I would be soo happy if we take Okoye at 10. Assuming this is valid.

I'm not convinced Holdman was brought in to start.

He started 15 games for Washington last year if I recall correctly.

 

[rascal]

Seems like Denver traded up to #10 by giving up ONLY #21 and #56.

 

[moleculo]

There is a history here: in 2004 denver traded from 24 to 17 to draft DJ Williams. And, of course, last year Denver traded up to snag Cutler. I don't think the Cutler deal was planned in advance, I believe that it was kind of a "lets make a deal if he slips" type of thing - I don't really think they were specifically targeting Cutler at this time last year.I do think that Denver needs a play maker on defense now, not a potiental starter next year. Denver is making moves like they are expecting a SB run, and frankly, that's what I'm expecting. It makes too much sense to trade up at this point.I have been hearing the Willis rumors also, btw.

I doubt we take Willis after we signed Holdman last night. But who really knows, and I would be soo happy if we take Okoye at 10. Assuming this is valid.

I'm not convinced Holdman was brought in to start.

He started 15 games for Washington last year if I recall correctly.

16, I think.

 

[moleculo]

Seems like Denver traded up to #10 by giving up ONLY #21 and #56.

is this a done deal?