Draft Pick Value chart (1 Viewer)

[Righetti]

With the importance the chart has for NFL teams, I was wondering if one has been created for Fantasy purposes also.

Of course values could be quite different depending on whether the league is a redraft, keeper, dynasty or other.. but it would be an interesting tool when making a trade offer to figure out value.

for example.. in a rookie draft

pick 1.01 could be worth 1.02 and 1.08

but might not be worth 1.02 and 2.05

If it hasn't been done yet.. we could come up with one

 

[Evilgrin 72]

With the importance the chart has for NFL teams, I was wondering if one has been created for Fantasy purposes also.

Of course values could be quite different depending on whether the league is a redraft, keeper, dynasty or other.. but it would be an interesting tool when making a trade offer to figure out value.

for example.. in a rookie draft

pick 1.01 could be worth 1.02 and 1.08

but might not be worth 1.02 and 2.05

If it hasn't been done yet.. we could come up with one

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There's one on the site. check out the main page - maybe under tools.

 

[Mr. Chumley]

I'd be interested in this if it were to be made available.

 

[zadok]

With the importance the chart has for NFL teams, I was wondering if one has been created for Fantasy purposes also.

Of course values could be quite different depending on whether the league is a redraft, keeper, dynasty or other.. but it would be an interesting tool when making a trade offer to figure out value.

for example.. in a rookie draft

pick 1.01 could be worth 1.02 and 1.08

but might not be worth 1.02 and 2.05

If it hasn't been done yet.. we could come up with one

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There's one on the site. check out the main page - maybe under tools.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Only for serpentine drafts...

 

[The Houston Stallions]

I know there used to be one. I'm sure it's still there. But it was not for rookie drafts. It was mean for redraft leagues.

Rookie drafts change too much from year to year to make it work.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

With the importance the chart has for NFL teams, I was wondering if one has been created for Fantasy purposes also.

Of course values could be quite different depending on whether the league is a redraft, keeper, dynasty or other.. but it would be an interesting tool when making a trade offer to figure out value.

for example.. in a rookie draft

pick 1.01 could be worth 1.02 and 1.08

but might not be worth 1.02 and 2.05

If it hasn't been done yet.. we could come up with one

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There's one on the site. check out the main page - maybe under tools.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Only for serpentine drafts...
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Sounded like that's what he was looking for - but I don't think it breaks down rookie drafts, etc. I think it's just for a standard redraft.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

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[Ramblin' Irish]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league

Here it is

Round Pick Overall Value Round Pick Overall Value

1 1 1 2000 5 1 42 123

1 2 2 1725 5 2 43 118

1 3 3 1475 5 3 44 113

1 4 4 1250 5 4 45 108

1 5 5 1275 5 5 46 100

1 6 6 1175 5 6 47 93

1 7 7 1100 5 7 48 88

1 8 8 1025 5 8 49 83

1 9 9 1000 5 9 50 78

1 10 10 950 5 10 51 73

2 1 11 900 6 1 52 68

2 2 12 863 6 2 53 63

2 3 13 838 6 3 54 58

2 4 14 813 6 4 55 53

2 5 15 788 6 5 56 48

2 6 16 750 6 6 57 43

2 7 17 713 6 7 58 38

2 8 18 688 6 8 59 33

2 9 19 663 6 9 60 28

2 10 20 613 6 10 61 24

3 1 21 550 7 1 62 20

3 2 22 515 7 2 63 19

3 3 23 478 7 3 64 18

3 4 24 453 7 4 65 17

3 5 25 428 7 5 66 16

3 6 26 403 7 6 67 15

3 7 27 365 7 7 68 14

3 8 28 328 7 8 69 13

3 9 29 303 7 9 70 12

3 10 30 278 7 10 71 11

4 1 31 253 8 1 72 10

4 2 32 233 8 2 73 9

4 3 33 208 8 3 74 8

4 4 34 178 8 4 75 7

4 5 35 168 8 5 76 6

4 6 36 163 8 6 77 5

4 7 37 158 8 7 78 4

4 8 38 150 8 8 79 3

4 9 39 143 8 9 80 2

4 10 40 138 8 10 81 1

4 11 41 133

 

[dgreen]

Rookie drafts change too much from year to year to make it work.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So you don't think the one they use in the NFL works either?

 

[dgreen]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?

 

[Ramblin' Irish]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

 

[radballs.]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?

 

[Captain Spaulding]

Now that rookies have been drafted by NFL teams, we just need a ranking schedule that has rookie players names (Bush) insteady of draft pick #'s (1.01). Like Reggie Bush is around the 5th best RB to select right now (IMO thats too high for him but that seems to be about his going value at the moment). Is this what you are looking for?

 

[Ramblin' Irish]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree that the 1.01 most likely wouldn't be traded for a 1.08 and 1.09. You're probably right that my numbers aren't decreasing rapidly enough as the picks decrease. This was my 3rd attempt at it and it will probably be a work in progress for the next year as I "tweak" the numbers.

 

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[dgreen]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree that the 1.01 most likely wouldn't be traded for a 1.08 and 1.09. You're probably right that my numbers aren't decreasing rapidly enough as the picks decrease. This was my 3rd attempt at it and it will probably be a work in progress for the next year as I "tweak" the numbers.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Here's how I'd do it, if I were to take the time.I'd give each rookie a numerical grade, say 0-100. I'd base this off what they have done and what I expect them to do. Then, I'd rank them each year, giving mewho should have been drafted 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc. each year. Then I'd get an average numerical grade for each draft position.

 

[belljr]

I think pick 4-6 need to mirror, picks 15-17.

The draft chart uses 3000 for pick 1 and 15 1050, pick 16 1000, pick 17 950

So the 3 middle picks are worth pick 1.

So for example you have pick 1 at

2000

I would assign pick 4 around 750 (35%) of pick 1.

pick 5 around 700

pick 6 650

And then pick 10 to be around

400 20% of the #1 pick.

I think you need to try and keep the ratio consistent but adjust it down for 10 teams.

 

[radballs.]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree that the 1.01 most likely wouldn't be traded for a 1.08 and 1.09. You're probably right that my numbers aren't decreasing rapidly enough as the picks decrease. This was my 3rd attempt at it and it will probably be a work in progress for the next year as I "tweak" the numbers.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like the concept of putting this together. I just think the only way to really do it is figure out if approximately 50% of people would accept a proposed trade of certain picks. Do this over and over again and then interpolate values in that way. The problem is that values will change slightly each year, but I think this could be a valuable tool if done correctly.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Here's an interesting take on it.

http://ffdynasty.blogspot.com/

 

[Righetti]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree that the 1.01 most likely wouldn't be traded for a 1.08 and 1.09. You're probably right that my numbers aren't decreasing rapidly enough as the picks decrease. This was my 3rd attempt at it and it will probably be a work in progress for the next year as I "tweak" the numbers.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like the concept of putting this together. I just think the only way to really do it is figure out if approximately 50% of people would accept a proposed trade of certain picks. Do this over and over again and then interpolate values in that way. The problem is that values will change slightly each year, but I think this could be a valuable tool if done correctly.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree.. I've started to put together a chart based on how I see valuebut the question is.. in a rookie draft would you trade

1.01 (reggie bush in this case)

for

1.02 and 1.05 (DeAngelo and Lendale for arguments sake)

we would have to run a poll to see if people would do this trade or which team this trade benefits more

If it is determined that the trade is skewed if to the person getting the two picks.. then the person trading 1.01 would also have to throw in pick 1.10 for example (which might be Vince Young).. and so-forth.. it woudl be a pretty long process. but maybe worth while..

maybe FBG could set up a test forum where these things could be debated and polls set up, so that we don't muddy up the shark pool

 

[radballs.]

I created one for our 10 team dynasty league.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What was your methodology?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I used the NFL's for a comparison basis, came up with numbers for the picks based upon what I thought they should be valued at (basically the top 3 are extremely valuable), then averaged the values between mine and the NFL's, weighted it a little and voila!I'm interested in hearing what everyone thinks of it.

Replies/criticisms are welcome.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Interesting, but I don't think the 1.8 and 1.9 will get you the 1.1 in a trade even though it's more valuable according to your chart. I also don't think 3 mid 2nd round picks would get you the 1.1 either in most leagues. So, maybe your values aren't falling off sharply enough?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree that the 1.01 most likely wouldn't be traded for a 1.08 and 1.09. You're probably right that my numbers aren't decreasing rapidly enough as the picks decrease. This was my 3rd attempt at it and it will probably be a work in progress for the next year as I "tweak" the numbers.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I like the concept of putting this together. I just think the only way to really do it is figure out if approximately 50% of people would accept a proposed trade of certain picks. Do this over and over again and then interpolate values in that way. The problem is that values will change slightly each year, but I think this could be a valuable tool if done correctly.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I agree.. I've started to put together a chart based on how I see valuebut the question is.. in a rookie draft would you trade

1.01 (reggie bush in this case)

for

1.02 and 1.05 (DeAngelo and Lendale for arguments sake)

we would have to run a poll to see if people would do this trade or which team this trade benefits more

If it is determined that the trade is skewed if to the person getting the two picks.. then the person trading 1.01 would also have to throw in pick 1.10 for example (which might be Vince Young).. and so-forth.. it woudl be a pretty long process. but maybe worth while..

maybe FBG could set up a test forum where these things could be debated and polls set up, so that we don't muddy up the shark pool

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So much of the trade value depends on the dynasty leagues set up as well. The 1.01 in Zealots is much more valuable than the 1.01 in EFSports leagues, imo.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Check out the Dynasty Links I have at the top of the Shark Pool.

First Round Draft Pick Value

 

[The Houston Stallions]

Rookie drafts change too much from year to year to make it work.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

So you don't think the one they use in the NFL works either?
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

There's a larger pool of players that NFL teams draft out of college making the mean value pretty close year in and year out. Most dynasty leagues are offensive in nature and maybe 20% include IDPs. My point is that the NFL uses their chart as a guide. Not as the bible. The players in the draft and who they are targeting will make the pick value rise and fall. If this years rookie class didn't contain Bush, Maroney, and Williams, we wouldn't give two flips about the top 3 picks in the draft. But in the NFL, only one of thowse players was drafted in the top 20.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

SportingNews did one, but it's not very good (1.07+1.08 are worth the same as 1.01, stuff like that). I'll try and dig it up tonight when I get home.