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Drafting with guppies - Part 2 (1 Viewer)

Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
how did they exploit your mistake of ending up with crap QBs?
I picked TRich; Forte; Roddy; Amendola; Gronk, Jordy Nelson; Daryl Richardson as my top 7 picks. Every one of those is close to or better than their ADP. Not sure what you smoke but it must be working.

 
Had the 5th pick in a 12 man league 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, flex, k def

Doug martin

Aj green

julio jones

chris Johnson

reggie bush

tony romo

jordy nelson

vareen

givens

cameron

mike Williams

blackmon

Gio benard

ravens

jared cook

Benard pierce

Alex smith
say what now,

where can i sign up for a league that I can get julio in the 3rd, johnson in the 4th and bush in the 5th..

some of the teams in your league must be guppie central
This is kind of crazy... I never thought my league was that full of guppies but I'm starting to think it's just as bad as these. Some of the highlights of my draft include:

Jimmy Graham at 2.10, Steven Ridley at 4.10, Cecil Shorts at 9.03, RG3 at 11.03, Mike Williams at 12.10.

Some guppie highlights include our QB run... in the 2nd round Brady, Peyton Manning, Rodgers, Wilson, Kaepernick, Cam, Brees all went off the board. Oh, can't forget to include Willis McGahee at 9.05 that was a fun pick to watch go down. Or the guy who thought that after drafting 3 RBs and 2 WRs and taking his 8th Round kicker (best part... it was Mason Crosby) to complete his starting lineup that he would go on a run and draft 5 more QBs. Cause you know... he was trying to screw everyone (hint: He missed Bradford, Smith, Schaub, Palmer and Tannehill who are all on WW).

 
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Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
how did they exploit your mistake of ending up with crap QBs?
I picked TRich; Forte; Roddy; Amendola; Gronk, Jordy Nelson; Daryl Richardson as my top 7 picks. Every one of those is close to or better than their ADP. Not sure what you smoke but it must be working.
more than half of your wrs will end up on ir at some point. you waited too long at qb. qbbc is not a thing to do this year.

youre gonna be starting cutler and waiver wire wrs at some point.

 
Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
how did they exploit your mistake of ending up with crap QBs?
I picked TRich; Forte; Roddy; Amendola; Gronk, Jordy Nelson; Daryl Richardson as my top 7 picks. Every one of those is close to or better than their ADP. Not sure what you smoke but it must be working.
LMAO at being a slave to ADP. You shouldve grabbed a QB before you selected two injured players back to back and a scat back in the 7th round. ESPECIALLY when you know the QBs were being gobbled up early and they may start grabbing backup QBs early too since ya know theyre the guppies and not you.

Passing up one of the top QBs for DRichardson is beyond awful.

 
Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
how did they exploit your mistake of ending up with crap QBs?
I picked TRich; Forte; Roddy; Amendola; Gronk, Jordy Nelson; Daryl Richardson as my top 7 picks. Every one of those is close to or better than their ADP. Not sure what you smoke but it must be working.
This means next to nothing. ADP is just a guideline as to when players are normally drafted. Positional scarcity is a key component of fantasy football and you didn't recognize the scarcity at the QB position when your picks came at the 5/6 turn. Hell, you could have taken Eli in the 8th and paired him with a decent backup to salvage your QB situation at that point.

 
Keep it up Sweetness, when you're a shark you don't get sympathy from the other sharks in the pool, as you know.

Vick + Cutler will be a lethal duo and Freeman waiting in the wings will surprise alot of people this year. D rich is a hidden gem. Chiefs will be awesome on Defense.

Im thinking you may need to go easy on the gupps this season, at least to keep it sporting.

 
Ok - I fully expect to get crap thrown my way for last year's thread/team. Funny thing is I still made the playoffs last year in that league and looking back, I had a pretty solid team with Brees; Morris; Forte; Demaryus Thomas; Jordy Nelson; Gates etc....I understand all of you had a blast poking fun at me for it.

So let's have some more fun

I just got done with the draft in that same league for this year....as always, which was my point BTW in last year's thread, picks were coming in from left field making decisions more difficult than normal because you hope the value you do pick up works out for you but your head is spinning when the Niners fan (that same lady from last year) goes and picks Collin Kapernick with the 1.03 pick....not lying it happened. Jamaal Charles fell all the way to 1.09....was so hoping he would fall to me. One player drafted both Percy Harvin and Dennis Pitta (not lying again)....

Anyways, here is what I landed up with this year, having got the 1.11 pick in the draft. . Please note we start 1 QB (6 pts passing TDs); 2 WRs; 2 RBs; 1 WR/RB; 1 TE; DEF/ST; K and have 17 total roster spots. Not sure if this is possible for you to view but here is the link to the draft results

Unbelievable but Gronk fell to the 5th (5.11) round to me....could not resist it anymore. I had my fingers and toes crossed with 5 picks to go to me ... luckily the guy 2 spots before me is a Cowboys fan so he picked Witten and the guy before me picked Antonio Brown but he did say later he was very close to picking Gronk and definitely would have on the way back in the 6th round. Yes, this is the craziness that ensues in the drafts with guppies.

http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/f1/346905/draftresults

My team:

QB: Vick (10); Cutler (11); Freeman (12)

RB: Trent Richardson (1); Forte (2); Daryl Richardson (7); Mike Bush (13)

WR: Roddy White (3); Amendola (4); Jordy Nelson (6); Miles Austin (8); Chris Givens (9)

TE: Gronk (5); Brandon Myers (14)

K: Greg Zuerlien (16)

D: Bucs (15); Chiefs (17)

Yahoo gave me a A- for the draft.,...

Have at it....let the fun begin!!!

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Just to give you guys some context on how bad some team members are, here are 2 teams (one of them is the Niner fan lady from last year):

Niner Fan:

Qb: Kap (1); Luck (7)

RB: Gore (2); Mendy (5); Jacquizz Rodgers (11); Fred Jackson (12); Zac Stacy (15); Bilal Powell (17)

WR: Demaryus Thomas (3); Golden Tate (6); Hilton (8); Sidney Rice (10); Dobson (13)

TE: Vernon Davis (4); Celek (16)

D: Pats (9)

K; Tucker (14)

CutlerTrestman:

Qb: Rodgers (2); Romo (6)

Rb: Doug Martin (1.4); Lamar Miller (4); Ben tate (8);Dwyer (11); Woodhead (12); Leshoure (14); Moreno (17)

WR: Cobb (3); Decker (5); Jeffrey (10); Blackmon (13); Sanu (16)

TE: Ed Dickson (9);

D: San Fran (7)

K: Gould (15)
awesome that you man'd up and returned. BTW you team is much better this yr than last

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
Well... yeah. Which is why you shouldn't be trying for style points by grabbing a QB late. Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs.

Honestly Sweetness, I appreciate what you do and i love this thread. Here's my diagnosis of your mistakes though- you are too aware that you are playing with guppies and it affects your judgement. Instead of taking the best talent and making the obvious moves, you act too clever because you know you know more and want to prove it. The Gronk pick was a gift. Well and good, but your couldn't have predicted it, so you can hardly take credit. He could have gone in the first round with this crew. Its like poker- the best play is the best play, even if you get outdrawn. All things being equal you should have missed Gronk (2 rounds past his ADP) and your team REALLY looks bad.

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
no, part of guppy league strategy is to recognize that guppies will draft qb early and adjust your draft strategy accordingly rather than masturbate over your great values according to adp.

 
Sweetness_34 said:
Getting the thread back on track. One of the problems playing in such leagues is that some other owners land up with really strong teams too, especially when they are lucky to draw a pick early and then they get to exploit others mistakes.

For eg - last night the 1.01 owner lands up with following 6 picks as his top 6 - AP; Sproles; Peyton; Reggie Wayne; Welker; Mike Wallace

This happens because guppies take Colin Kapernick at 1.03 letting Peyton get back to the AP owner. Now this 1.01 owner is horrible himself - he drafted Harvin; Pitta and Danario although it says IR next to Pitta and Danario.... But getting those top 6 picks in a PPR and 6 pts passing TD league is just crap for the rest of us

Moral of story - when guppies make mistakes it helps other owners too
Well... yeah. Which is why you shouldn't be trying for style points by grabbing a QB late. Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of amateurs.

Honestly Sweetness, I appreciate what you do and i love this thread. Here's my diagnosis of your mistakes though- you are too aware that you are playing with guppies and it affects your judgement. Instead of taking the best talent and making the obvious moves, you act too clever because you know you know more and want to prove it. The Gronk pick was a gift. Well and good, but your couldn't have predicted it, so you can hardly take credit. He could have gone in the first round with this crew. Its like poker- the best play is the best play, even if you get outdrawn. All things being equal you should have missed Gronk (2 rounds past his ADP) and your team REALLY looks bad.
If Gronk and Witten were not there at my 5th pick, I was taking QB. I said it before, I thought about taking Ryan with my 4th round pick, but just could not miss out on Amendola as my WR2. And then in the 5th, Gronk or Witten would have been impossible to not pick. In the 6th, sure, I could have picked Romo or Luck, but again, Jordy Nelson as my WR3 was too good a value, especially with McCarthy annonuncing yesterday that he is ready to go and with Cobb having bicep issues. Of course I felt Romo or Luck would get back to me, and did not anticipate Luck and Romo both going to teams as back ups. So instead of panicking I waited and picked more value in Daryl Richardson and Miles Austin (I love Austin this year - you can call it personal preference but his PPG #s are really good especially as my bye week filler position). I do not see the combination of Vick, Cutler and Freeman to be that bad given the schedules I have looked at....I expect Wash; Phi; Atl; NO; Det and Minny to have below average to horrible pass Ds (eg - Atl has 2 rookie CBs and not much of a pass rush; NO and Wash were horrible last year; Det and Minny have no CBs that are shut down in nature erc):

For eg:

Week 1: Vick vs Wash

Week 2: Freeman vs NO or even Cutler vs Minny

Week 3: Freeman vs NE

Week 4: Cutler vs Det

Week 5: Cutler vs NO

Week 6: Freeman vs Phi

Week 7: Freeman vs Atl or Cutler vs Wash

Week 8: Freeman vs Car or Vick vs Giants

Week 9 : Vick vs Oak

Week10: Cutler vs Det or Vick vs GB

Week 11: Vick vs Was or Freeman vs Atl

Week 12: Freeman vs Det

Week 13: Cutler vs Minn

Week 14: Free vs Buf or Vick vs Det

Week 15: Vick vs Minn

Week 16: Cutler vs Phi

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
Why do I care about RB depth given I have Bush? I will be starting 2 RBs every week anyways, given I have WR2 and WR3 that is as good as some WR1s. If Forte gets injured, Bush is a very capable RB1.

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
no, part of guppy league strategy is to recognize that guppies will draft qb early and adjust your draft strategy accordingly rather than masturbate over your great values according to adp.
Freeman had 302 pts last year; Stafford had 316; Luck had 322; Wilson had 327; Romo had 335....so you are telling me I should have taken one of these QBs in the 6th or 7th rounds when all I was gaining was 2 pts per game?

You are the type of guppy who I wish is in more of my leagues, You can keep reaching for QBs. I will take Jordy Nelson as my WR3; Gronk as my TE1 while you reach for 2 PPG more at a position where playing match ups is easiest.

I am not even planning on starting only one QB every week. I showed above how I can get solid to great match ups every week. And I am not even hoping for some crazy upside from Vick, which is always possible given their OL is so much more improved this year and Vick will need to throw to win given how bad their D is.

 
Really harsh judgement in here. I thought there was some fishing but apparently I'm wrong. I had a couple of drafts with guys who are a mix of in the know and plain stupid. Here are the results with the first league being incentive and return heavy and both being ppr:

1. (3) Aaron Rodgers

(GB - QB)

2. (22) LeSean McCoy

(Phi - RB)

3. (27) Alfred Morris

(Was - RB)

4. (46) Vincent Jackson

(TB - WR)

5. (51) Rob Gronkowski

(NE - TE)

6. (70) Mike Wallace

(Mia - WR)

7. (75) T.Y. Hilton

(Ind - WR)

8. (94) Zach Brown

(Ten - LB)

9. (99) Josh Freeman

(TB - QB)

10. (118) Eddie Lacy

(GB - RB)

11. (123) Johnathan Franklin

(GB - RB)

12. (142) Josh Gordon

(Cle - WR)

13. (147) Miles Austin

(Dal - WR)

14. (166) Jermaine Gresham

(Cin - TE)

15. (171) Randy Bullock

(Hou - K)

16. (190) D'Qwell Jackson

(Cle - LB)

17. (195) Chicago

(Chi - DEF)

1. (12) Jimmy Graham

(NO - TE)

2. (13) Alfred Morris

(Was - RB)

3. (36) Stevan Ridley

(NE - RB)

4. (37) Randall Cobb

(GB - WR)

5. (60) Dwayne Bowe

(KC - WR)

6. (61) Le'Veon Bell

(Pit - RB)

7. (84) Stevie Johnson

(Buf - WR)

8. (85) Ryan Mathews

(SD - RB)

9. (108) Chris Givens

(StL - WR)

10. (109) Josh Freeman

(TB - QB)

11. (132) New England

(NE - DEF)

12. (133) Vincent Brown

(SD - WR)

13. (156) Julius Thomas

(Den - TE)

14. (157) Ronnie Hillman

(Den - RB)

15. (180) Philip Rivers

(SD - QB)

16. (181) Bilal Powell

(NYJ - RB)

17. (204) Brandon Weeden

(Cle - QB)

In the second league I sort of had the same thinking as the OP. In retrospect I wish I would have taken Romo over Bell but as I stand I already have some interest in RB's and can probably pull something off for a decent QB if the QBBC doesn't work.

 
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Again, what RBs were still there at the 3/4 turn? TIA.
Here you go:

RBs (in order) taken:

AP

Foster

Martin

Spiller

Lynch

McCoy

Charles

Ray Rice

TRich => My 1.11 pick

Morris

Forte => My 2.02 pick

MJD

Ridley

Frank Gore

Steven Jackson

Sproles

CJ3K

Reggie Bush

Demarco Murray

I picked Roddy White because I did not like anyone else at RB there. I do not like Wilson given it will be a full blown RBBC and I am not a Miller fan at all (especially given the Thomas news of another RBBC), and absolutely hate McFadden or Ryan Matthews. Was hoping Bush or Demarco would fall but they went 2 picks before me. No RB was selected by the team at 12th spot (he took Cruz and Cam); so I picked Amendola because again I did not like anyone at RB. I debated hard and long on Amendola vs Matt Ryan here. After Amendola, and before it got to me in the 5th:

Wilson (4.05)

McF(4.07)

Miller (4.09)

Mendy (5.03)

Matthews (5.06)

Once I picked Gronk at 5.11, Eddie Lacy went immediately after. I was hoping to get Lacy with my 6th pick but he was gone (and no way I was picking Lacy over Gronk in the 5th round).

 
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I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
Why do I care about RB depth given I have Bush? I will be starting 2 RBs every week anyways, given I have WR2 and WR3 that is as good as some WR1s. If Forte gets injured, Bush is a very capable RB1.
Are you serious? RB depth wins championships. If you were truly a "shark" taking part in a "guppy league" your RB stable would look much better. Honestly, your team just looks average as far as preseason rankings go.

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
Why do I care about RB depth given I have Bush? I will be starting 2 RBs every week anyways, given I have WR2 and WR3 that is as good as some WR1s. If Forte gets injured, Bush is a very capable RB1.
Are you serious? RB depth wins championships. If you were truly a "shark" taking part in a "guppy league" your RB stable would look much better. Honestly, your team just looks average as far as preseason rankings go.
Again, reads my logic ***carefully***....I will only need another RB if one of my RBs get injured. If Forte gets injured, I have a starter in Bush and he can run, score TDs and catch the ball so he can be a pretty good starter if I need him. If TRick gets injured, his back up is on the WW and this is a first come first serve waiver so I will get him first since I will watch every game this year (just like eveyr other year). And I still have another RB (Richardson) if I need him. I did not want to waste a pick on the crap that exists in rounds 3 to 5 at RB this year aka Miller; Wilson; Montee Ball; Bell; McFadden; Ryan Matthews etc....I doubt I would be happy starting any of those guys at Flex this year when the WRs are so much better. Now if both Forte and TRich are gone for the year, there is nothing I can do and there is no way to plan for that in any league. Unless I drafted RB RB RB RB RB ....

And I have seen TONS of teams win with not so great RB depth in PPR leagues. I won my FBG PC league last year starting Gronk; Gonzo and Witten every week....I had really crappy RBs after Foster but it did not matter.

 
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That's fine, I actually don't care. What I'm more curious about is why you would subject yourself to possible ridicule again. Although it's highly entertaining for many, it can't be for you. The truth is, a good majority of us probably take part in a guppy league or two yearly. The reason we don't make ridiculous topics such as this is because we know that A.) no one even remotely gives a #### about our teams and B) fantasy football is a high enough variance game that if we do run into a string of bad luck/things don't pan out a thread such as this would only serve to multiply our embarrassment tenfold.

I've come to the conclusion that you're either a troll, a masochist or both.

 
That's fine, I actually don't care. What I'm more curious about is why you would subject yourself to possible ridicule again. Although it's highly entertaining for many, it can't be for you. The truth is, a good majority of us probably take part in a guppy league or two yearly. The reason we don't make ridiculous topics such as this is because we know that A.) no one even remotely gives a #### about our teams and B) fantasy football is a high enough variance game that if we do run into a string of bad luck/things don't pan out a thread such as this would only serve to multiply our embarrassment tenfold.

I've come to the conclusion that you're either a troll, a masochist or both.
Maybe you need to learn not to let a FF message board impact you. You are crazy if you think anything anyone says here makes or breaks my day.....I enjoy discussing FF and multiple people have asked in the past (there was a new thread just yesterday) if there is anything diff one should do in a so called guppy league. I tend to think a league that has Kap going 1.03 and bacup QBs go in 6th and 7th rounds after they drafted QBs in 1st and 2nd round is indeed a guppy league, and hopefully some folks can learn something. How you choose to use it is up to you frankly....u think my team stinks? ok great....it does not matter to me. I played in 3 FBGPC leagues last year and was 1st or 2nd in all of them (ask any FBGPC mod if you want confirmation), so I do not need egomaniacs like you to validate my team for me to feel better.

You think I do not have RB depth or any QB worth a darn....ummm ok....I will dis agree. I fully expect to get top 10 production from these Qbs (and maybe froim WW too if a match up presents itself). I never draft QBs early except last year in this league I got Brees in 1st round, and I tend to make FF $ every single year

 
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That's fine, I actually don't care.
Here is a free clue - when someone does not care, they do not bother posting.
Obviously I was referring to me not caring about what you had to say about your team. I do care however, as I said I was curious as to why you would ever create such a topic. I outlined it for you, it's a lose lose situation.

So let me get this straight. You are saying the purpose of this thread and the last was not to boast, but for it to be informative and help people with their guppy leagues? Is that the story you're sticking with?

 
I guess I just don't understand why you feel drafting with people who don't follow fantasy football like its a religion is difficult. It's literally the exact same thing as always except you're a little less likely to get some guy whose ADP is 3 rounds away in 3 rounds.

You know who also don't follow ADPs? People who make significant money off fantasy football. If they believe in a player, they take them where they believe they are worth. Just like guppy leagues. It's actually the people who spend a lot of time on this but don't put their money where their mouth is that are usually some of the most rigid, stick to ADP players out there.

this really doesn't need a thread except for pure comedic value if your team doesn't win. Last years was funny, mostly because you believed so heavily in your drafted team then only made the playoffs due to who you faced when and getting a once every decade case of WW guy turns into top 10 RB without an injury occurring. Your team is better this year for sure. Probably playoffs, maybe you even win. But do you really need to gloat about beating people who take Kaepernick 3rd overall or whatever it was?

 
That's fine, I actually don't care. What I'm more curious about is why you would subject yourself to possible ridicule again. Although it's highly entertaining for many, it can't be for you. The truth is, a good majority of us probably take part in a guppy league or two yearly. The reason we don't make ridiculous topics such as this is because we know that A.) no one even remotely gives a #### about our teams and B) fantasy football is a high enough variance game that if we do run into a string of bad luck/things don't pan out a thread such as this would only serve to multiply our embarrassment tenfold.

I've come to the conclusion that you're either a troll, a masochist or both.
Maybe you need to learn not to let a FF message board impact you. You are crazy if you think anything anyone says here makes or breaks my day.....I enjoy discussing FF and multiple people have asked in the past (there was a new thread just yesterday) if there is anything diff one should do in a so called guppy league. I tend to think a league that has Kap going 1.03 and bacup QBs go in 6th and 7th rounds after they drafted QBs in 1st and 2nd round is indeed a guppy league, and hopefully some folks can learn something. How you choose to use it is up to you frankly....u think my team stinks? ok great....it does not matter to me. I played in 3 FBGPC leagues last year and was 1st or 2nd in all of them (ask any FBGPC mod if you want confirmation), so I do not need egomaniacs like you to validate my team for me to feel better.

You think I do not have RB depth or any QB worth a darn....ummm ok....I will dis agree. I fully expect to get top 10 production from these Qbs (and maybe froim WW too if a match up presents itself). I never draft QBs early except last year in this league I got Brees in 1st round, and I tend to make FF $ every single year
blah blah blah I dont care what anybody thinks blah blah blah ill bet you my team is better blah blah blah it doesnt bother me what people say blah blah blah youre a ####ay and ankle biter
 
That's fine, I actually don't care.
Here is a free clue - when someone does not care, they do not bother posting.
Obviously I was referring to me not caring about what you had to say about your team. I do care however, as I said I was curious as to why you would ever create such a topic. I outlined it for you, it's a lose lose situation.

So let me get this straight. You are saying the purpose of this thread and the last was not to boast, but for it to be informative and help people with their guppy leagues? Is that the story you're sticking with?
I outlined it last year and this year. Again, you might be the kind of the guy or girl who gets some kind of pleasure gloating to strangers on a message board, none of whom I will ever probably meet. In fact, given your posts, you do seem to be that kind of guy/girl. There is a world out there. Stop getting your panties in a bunch over a freaking internet message board. If you think there is something for you to learn from this thread, hang around, otherwise, spend your time doing something more valuable to you.

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just got done with the draft in that same league for this year....as always, which was my point BTW in last year's thread, picks were coming in from left field making decisions more difficult than normal because you hope the value you do pick up works out for you but your head is spinning when the Niners fan (that same lady from last year) goes and picks Collin Kapernick with the 1.03 pick....not lying it happened. Jamaal Charles fell all the way to 1.09....was so hoping he would fall to me. One player drafted both Percy Harvin and Dennis Pitta (not lying again)....

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
no, part of guppy league strategy is to recognize that guppies will draft qb early and adjust your draft strategy accordingly rather than masturbate over your great values according to adp.
Freeman had 302 pts last year; Stafford had 316; Luck had 322; Wilson had 327; Romo had 335....so you are telling me I should have taken one of these QBs in the 6th or 7th rounds when all I was gaining was 2 pts per game?

You are the type of guppy who I wish is in more of my leagues, You can keep reaching for QBs. I will take Jordy Nelson as my WR3; Gronk as my TE1 while you reach for 2 PPG more at a position where playing match ups is easiest.

I am not even planning on starting only one QB every week. I showed above how I can get solid to great match ups every week. And I am not even hoping for some crazy upside from Vick, which is always possible given their OL is so much more improved this year and Vick will need to throw to win given how bad their D is.
Great...if only those guys will put up the exact same points as last year (especially with 2 on that list who were rookies).

Im sure all your guys will perform right up to their ADP...and the QBS will all do the same...and that chick will still beat you.

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
no, part of guppy league strategy is to recognize that guppies will draft qb early and adjust your draft strategy accordingly rather than masturbate over your great values according to adp.
Freeman had 302 pts last year; Stafford had 316; Luck had 322; Wilson had 327; Romo had 335....so you are telling me I should have taken one of these QBs in the 6th or 7th rounds when all I was gaining was 2 pts per game?

You are the type of guppy who I wish is in more of my leagues, You can keep reaching for QBs. I will take Jordy Nelson as my WR3; Gronk as my TE1 while you reach for 2 PPG more at a position where playing match ups is easiest.

I am not even planning on starting only one QB every week. I showed above how I can get solid to great match ups every week. And I am not even hoping for some crazy upside from Vick, which is always possible given their OL is so much more improved this year and Vick will need to throw to win given how bad their D is.
Great...if only those guys will put up the exact same points as last year (especially with 2 on that list who were rookies).

Im sure all your guys will perform right up to their ADP...and the QBS will all do the same...and that chick will still beat you.
I can play that game both ways. I expect Jordy to do a lot better than last year.... That is why we all do our own projections. You should know better as a fudge packer fan that Jordy is far more capable than what he got last year. Same thing for Amendola.

 
I like the Nelson and Austin picks. RB depth is really poor for being in a guppy league, though. The QBs are bad, but that's how it goes in guppy leagues.
no, part of guppy league strategy is to recognize that guppies will draft qb early and adjust your draft strategy accordingly rather than masturbate over your great values according to adp.
Freeman had 302 pts last year; Stafford had 316; Luck had 322; Wilson had 327; Romo had 335....so you are telling me I should have taken one of these QBs in the 6th or 7th rounds when all I was gaining was 2 pts per game?

You are the type of guppy who I wish is in more of my leagues, You can keep reaching for QBs. I will take Jordy Nelson as my WR3; Gronk as my TE1 while you reach for 2 PPG more at a position where playing match ups is easiest.

I am not even planning on starting only one QB every week. I showed above how I can get solid to great match ups every week. And I am not even hoping for some crazy upside from Vick, which is always possible given their OL is so much more improved this year and Vick will need to throw to win given how bad their D is.
Great...if only those guys will put up the exact same points as last year (especially with 2 on that list who were rookies).

Im sure all your guys will perform right up to their ADP...and the QBS will all do the same...and that chick will still beat you.
Just because they were rookies last year does not automatically mean they will score more pts this year. D coordinators will have more footage to plan for shortie. And Sea was lucky to have no relevant injuries last year. Highly doubt that happens again - losing Harvin means they are no better than last year talent wise.

 
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Again, what RBs were still there at the 3/4 turn? TIA.
Here you go:

RBs (in order) taken:

AP

Foster

Martin

Spiller

Lynch

McCoy

Charles

Ray Rice

TRich => My 1.11 pick

Morris

Forte => My 2.02 pick

MJD

Ridley

Frank Gore

Steven Jackson

Sproles

CJ3K

Reggie Bush

Demarco Murray

I picked Roddy White because I did not like anyone else at RB there. I do not like Wilson given it will be a full blown RBBC and I am not a Miller fan at all (especially given the Thomas news of another RBBC), and absolutely hate McFadden or Ryan Matthews. Was hoping Bush or Demarco would fall but they went 2 picks before me. No RB was selected by the team at 12th spot (he took Cruz and Cam); so I picked Amendola because again I did not like anyone at RB. I debated hard and long on Amendola vs Matt Ryan here. After Amendola, and before it got to me in the 5th:

Wilson (4.05)

McF(4.07)

Miller (4.09)

Mendy (5.03)

Matthews (5.06)

Once I picked Gronk at 5.11, Eddie Lacy went immediately after. I was hoping to get Lacy with my 6th pick but he was gone (and no way I was picking Lacy over Gronk in the 5th round).
I'm strongly considering taking Lacy in the 4th in my league as I don't he comes to me in the 5th. I guess it depends on how his game goes this weekend.
 

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