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Droughns vs. Griffin (1 Viewer)

You're the one in this thread laughing at those who say Droughns could be a good one.
No. I was laughing at the guy who said he was the next Terrell Davis. Little different.
I told you to put your money where your mouth is and set the stat line for the week. Now you won't back it up?
You asked me what I thought he would do this week. That doesnt mean i'll bet on it. Tell you what, i'll make you a sig bet that Droughns wont rush for 100 yards this week.For the next great RB that should be no problem.
 
Tell you what, i'll make you a sig bet that Droughns wont rush for 100 yards this week.For the next great RB that should be no problem.
Why not make it 70 yards? After all, you're so sure of yourself that he can't break 70 this week, right?Trying to set the bet at 100 yards this week now makes you look desperate. Even Ladainian Tomlinson and Priest Holmes don't get 100 yards every week. Since you voiced your opinion so loudly in this thread I wanted you to set the stat line for what Droughns would do this week. You said sixty-something yards. If you're not confident in your prognostications you shouldn't be issuing them out, killer. And you surely shouldn't be entertaining bets on them. You won't back up your opinion, it's loud and clear. That's the way I knew this would end up anyhow.
 
Why not make it 70 yards? After all, you're so sure of yourself that he can't break 70 this week, right?
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit is it? Please show me where I said I was sure of that.
Trying to set the bet at 100 yards this week now makes you look desperate. Even Ladainian Tomlinson and Priest Holmes don't get 100 yards every week.
100 yards is a good week for a good running back. 70 yards is a subpar week for a good running back. If Droughns goes for 70 yards on 20 carries for no touchdowns, what do you think the response in Denver and the Shark Pool will be? That Denvers problems are solved because Rueban had a 'solid' game? Nope. "Since you voiced your opinion so loudly in this thread I wanted you to set the stat line for what Droughns would do this week."Dude. You. Asked. Me. My. Opinion. I. Gave. It. "If you're not confident in your prognostications you shouldn't be issuing them out, killer."Lol. You're willing to bet on every projection you make? Brave man. You ever heard of plus or minus? The guy goes one yard over and still has a mediocre day. i lose the bet but still get proved correct. No thanks."That's the way I knew this would end up anyhow. "If Droughns is the man, he should clear 100 yards in order to take the reigns in Denver. Why dont you want to back that up? Why havent you even stated your projection? Dont want to go on the record?If you bothered to reread the thread, which apparently you havent, you would see that my entire point was that annointing Droughns as the next great running back based on one performance against a bad defense is absurd. I stand by that. I never said Droughns was going to suck. I think he will be mediocre against a decent defense. I dont understand why you fly into a rage when someone suggests Rueben just might not be the next Hall of Famer just yet.
 
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Why not make it 70 yards? After all, you're so sure of yourself that he can't break 70 this week, right?
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit is it? Please show me where I said I was sure of that.
Trying to set the bet at 100 yards this week now makes you look desperate. Even Ladainian Tomlinson and Priest Holmes don't get 100 yards every week.
100 yards is a good week for a good running back. 70 yards is a subpar week for a good running back. If Droughns goes for 70 yards on 20 carries for no touchdowns, what do you think the response in Denver and the Shark Pool will be? That Denvers problems are solved because Rueban had a 'solid' game? Nope. "Since you voiced your opinion so loudly in this thread I wanted you to set the stat line for what Droughns would do this week."Dude. You. Asked. Me. My. Opinion. I. Gave. It. "If you're not confident in your prognostications you shouldn't be issuing them out, killer."Lol. You're willing to bet on every projection you make? Brave man. You ever heard of plus or minus? The guy goes one yard over and still has a mediocre day. i lose the bet but still get proved correct. No thanks."That's the way I knew this would end up anyhow. "If Droughns is the man, he should clear 100 yards in order to take the reigns in Denver. Why dont you want to back that up? Why havent you even stated your projection? Dont want to go on the record?If you bothered to reread the thread, which apparently you havent, you would see that my entire point was that annointing Droughns as the next great running back based on one performance against a bad defense is absurd. I stand by that. I never said Droughns was going to suck. I think he will be mediocre against a decent defense. I dont understand why you fly into a rage when someone suggests Rueben just might not be the next Hall of Famer just yet.
....but YOU set the stat line of 65. If you want to bet, that should be your number. No?
 
Why not make it 70 yards? After all, you're so sure of yourself that he can't break 70 this week, right?
Reading comprehension isnt your strong suit is it? Please show me where I said I was sure of that.
You said Droughns would go 18/65 yards this week. I do believe 70 yards, in your opinion is out of his range this week. Not sure of yourself? Would you like to adjust your prognostication? :rotflmao: You said 18/65 yards, back it up if that's what you're calling this week.
 
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You said Droughns would go 18/65 yards this week. I do believe 70 yards, in your opinion is out of his range this week. Not sure of yourself? Would you like to adjust your prognostication?
That was my projection. I never said 5 more yards was out of his range. If he rushes for 70 yards on 18-20 carries it will be considered a bad game and Denver will keep looking for a starter. Why wont you make a projection if you're so confident im wrong?
 
I am just going to steer clear of the Denver RB situation this week, but here's a question:Griffin torched a terrible Chief's run defense in week one for 156 rushing yards and 2 TDs. That Chief's defense is currently ranked 26th against the run.Droughns torched a terrible Panther's run defense in week 5 for 193 rushing yards. That Panther's defense is currently ranked 31st against the run.So, they both torched a pathetic un defense. Big deal. They were both running through holes ten feet wide and have the O-line to thank for their performances. But, since Droughns has done it more recently, he's the guy? Come on. This situation is a push and is very messy. Until Droughns does it against a tougher run defense, the jury is still out.

 
I am just going to steer clear of the Denver RB situation this week, but here's a question:Griffin torched a terrible Chief's run defense in week one for 156 rushing yards and 2 TDs. That Chief's defense is currently ranked 26th against the run.Droughns torched a terrible Panther's run defense in week 5 for 193 rushing yards. That Panther's defense is currently ranked 31st against the run.So, they both torched a pathetic un defense. Big deal. They were both running through holes ten feet wide and have the O-line to thank for their performances. But, since Droughns has done it more recently, he's the guy? Come on. This situation is a push and is very messy. Until Droughns does it against a tougher run defense, the jury is still out.
Droughns can fight for the extra yds, Griffin can't. That's the difference.
 
Why wont you make a projection if you're so confident im wrong?
I don't have to make a projection. Unlike you, I didn't come into this thread laughing at someone for saying that Droughns' running last week brought back memories of Terrell Davis. Droughns ran hard last week and broke many tackles, if memory serves me right I think Terrell Davis did plenty of that too. You set the stat line at 18/65 yards, so I challenged you to back up your opinion. You won't, and you continue to dance around the issue. If I had come into this thread proclaiming Droughns to be an instant stud and that he'd go 28/260 yards and laughed at anybody who disagreed with me then you could challenge me to back up my opinion on that, but I didn't do that. I, however, feel Droughns will have a solid game in Oakland and feel he will outproduce your expectations, which you set at 18/65 already. I'm guessing that now you wish you would have lied and set the number higher, but it's too late. Your belief is that Droughns won't even break 70 yards this week yet you won't back it up. So be it. But please quit singing and dancing around the bet if you won't step up and back it up.
 
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I'm guess that now you wish you would have lied and set the number higher, but it's too late. Your beliefe is that Droughns won't even break 70 yards this week yet you won't back it up. So be it. But please quit singing and dancing around the bet if you won't step up and back it up.
Hooked on phonics. Look into it. Reading comprehension can be your friend.
 
I just wanted to say that, as a Tatum Bell owner in a dynasty league, I'm much more worried about Droughns than I was/am about Griffin. If guys like Mike Anderson and Olandis Gary were successful in Denver for full seasons, why not Droughns? On the other hand, IIRC, there hasn't been any back like Griffin for the Broncos under Shannahan's tenure. Plus, I've always felt that even if Q was successful, his body wouldn't be able to hold up to all the pounding (see Warrick Dunn, Brian Westbrook). Just my two cents.

 
I'm guess that now you wish you would have lied and set the number higher, but it's too late. Your beliefe is that Droughns won't even break 70 yards this week yet you won't back it up. So be it. But please quit singing and dancing around the bet if you won't step up and back it up.
Hooked on phonics. Look into it. Reading comprehension can be your friend.
So now the personal attacks? Classic. You've been called out to back up your projection, and you won't. So to divert from your cowardness you resort to personal attacks. This thread is about Droughns, remember? You've said he will go 18/65 yards this week. I feel he will have a solid game and will outproduce whatever your expectations are for him. I'll take your bet, if you're as confident in your opinion of Droughns as you lead on. Or you can walk away because you're getting killed here.
 
This thread is about Droughns, remember? You've said he will go 18/65 yards this week.
Reread the thread. Again and again. Its not a personal attack, its an honest suggestion that maybe you just arent listening to what im trying to convey to you. If Droughns rushes for 66 yards its not going to blow my mind. As i've said about 50 times.
 
This thread is about Droughns, remember? You've said he will go 18/65 yards this week.
Reread the thread. Again and again. Its not a personal attack, its an honest suggestion that maybe you just arent listening to what im trying to convey to you. If Droughns rushes for 66 yards its not going to blow my mind. As i've said about 50 times.
Ok, then I'll make this is as simple as possible. I'll ask again: What is the MOST rushing yards YOU think Droughns will rush for this week? If you think 65, say 65. If you think he's capable of 66, say 66. Say what YOU think.
 
Ok, then I'll make this is as simple as possible. I'll ask again: What is the MOST rushing yards YOU think Droughns will rush for this week? If you think 65, say 65. If you think he's capable of 66, say 66. Say what YOU think.
I dont think he will rush for 100 yards.
 
Ok, then I'll make this is as simple as possible. I'll ask again: What is the MOST rushing yards YOU think Droughns will rush for this week? If you think 65, say 65. If you think he's capable of 66, say 66. Say what YOU think.
I dont think he will rush for 100 yards.
And according to your earlier 18/65 you don't think he'll rush for 70, 80, or 90 either. So sack up.
 
And according to your earlier 18/65 you don't think he'll rush for 70, 80, or 90 either. So sack up.
Do you understand the concept of a projection? Yeh, I think he'll be around 65 yards. I dont think he'll hit 100, and i'd bet on that. I dont think he'll hit 90 or 80 either, but I wouldnt be shocked. You on the other hand havent even had the guts to say what you think. All this going around in circles is old. Im on the record. Maybe im right, maybe im wrong.
 
And according to your earlier 18/65 you don't think he'll rush for 70, 80, or 90 either. So sack up.
Do you understand the concept of a projection? Yeh, I think he'll be around 65 yards. I dont think he'll hit 100, and i'd bet on that. I dont think he'll hit 90 or 80 either, but I wouldnt be shocked. You on the other hand havent even had the guts to say what you think. All this going around in circles is old. Im on the record. Maybe im right, maybe im wrong.
You're right. It is getting old. It's clear you won't back up your opinion. My work is done here.
 
You said Droughns would go 18/65 yards this week. I do believe 70 yards, in your opinion is out of his range this week. Not sure of yourself? Would you like to adjust your prognostication?
That was my projection. I never said 5 more yards was out of his range. If he rushes for 70 yards on 18-20 carries it will be considered a bad game and Denver will keep looking for a starter. Why wont you make a projection if you're so confident im wrong?
I disagree often with mbuehner. I often think he is quick to dismiss others, despite what his sig suggests. However, I think some of you are way off base. You asked what his projection was. If he says 65, and Droughns comes in at 75, I would say that is a great projection. You initially did not ask him to post his best possible over/under where he would take the under. You did not initially ask- "What is the best you think he will do?" You asked for a statline. He gave it to you. A projection allows for plus or minus. He answered very specifically. What more do you want/need? It is so easy to say after someone else makes a projection to say "I bet he does better than that." Rarely does someone say-"I think you are way off. I lay you 3-1 he does better than that" or "I think he does 30% better than that."
 
Wow, I saw 3 pages of posts and thought there would be news.Move along... there's nothing to see here except some bickering...I'd appreciate the PM too.

 
Wow, I saw 3 pages of posts and thought there would be news.Move along... there's nothing to see here except some bickering...I'd appreciate the PM too.
Guys, it's Denver. What news do you expect on Thursday?
 
Ok, then I'll make this is as simple as possible. I'll ask again: What is the MOST rushing yards YOU think Droughns will rush for this week? If you think 65, say 65. If you think he's capable of 66, say 66. Say what YOU think.
LOL @ a guy just spoiling for a pissing contest.So instead of trying to hold mbuehner's feet to the fire on his call, why don't you enlighten us with your projection, and then the 2 of you can middle it.

If I were you, I wouldn't be calling someone out & stomping on them for their numbers if you don't have the sack to post your own.

:X @ defending mbuehner ;)

 
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Droughns = 22/126 and 2 this week
Okay, you're on! I take the under. If I win, you gotta put that Johnny Unitas and Art Donvan had an inappropriate relationship in your sig for 89 days (the "union" of their uniform numbers).If I lose, I have to state that I have the utmost respect for these bickering, self promoting, self-proclamed "sharks" that pound their chests amongst these boards because they have LT2, Tiki, Brown, and Edge in their 12 team re-draft league.Deal?
 
Droughns = 22/126 and 2 this week
Okay, you're on! I take the under. If I win, you gotta put that Johnny Unitas and Art Donvan had an inappropriate relationship in your sig for 89 days (the "union" of their uniform numbers).If I lose, I have to state that I have the utmost respect for these bickering, self promoting, self-proclamed "sharks" that pound their chests amongst these boards because they have LT2, Tiki, Brown, and Edge in their 12 team re-draft league.Deal?
Shark, I'll be the first to admit my prediction may be full of s***. :bag: I'm not a chest beating poster, sorry. I just thought I would throw out what I think will happen, but with humility.
 
Droughns = 22/126 and 2 this week
Okay, you're on! I take the under. If I win, you gotta put that Johnny Unitas and Art Donvan had an inappropriate relationship in your sig for 89 days (the "union" of their uniform numbers).If I lose, I have to state that I have the utmost respect for these bickering, self promoting, self-proclamed "sharks" that pound their chests amongst these boards because they have LT2, Tiki, Brown, and Edge in their 12 team re-draft league.Deal?
Shark, I'll be the first to admit my prediction may be full of s***. :bag: I'm not a chest beating poster, sorry. I just thought I would throw out what I think will happen, but with humility.
LOL.And I was gonna start Droughns over Barlow (and STILL might) and hope like hell I got to "lengthen" my sig line.Still hope you're right.Edited to add...And I hope you didn't take that sig as being directed at you. It certainly wasn't.
 
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20 attempts/90 rushing yards/4.5 ypc/1 TD2 receptions/18 receiving yards**I have a feeling Griffin will be involved in more 3rd and long downs than I would prefer to see and that Droughns will be mostly a 1st down/2nd down/3rd down short yardage back at least for this game. Griffin will probably get 8 carries and 3-4 receptions IMO on those third and long downs and while spelling Droughns; those are yards that could have gone to Droughns and put him easily over the 100 yard mark for the day.

 
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I guess I'm missing something.If someone asks me to make a guess at what a RB will do this week, and I think he'll get 70 yards, that doesn't mean that if I had to make an over/under bet I'd put the number at 70. That would be stupid.

 
Griffin will probably get 8 carries and 3-4 receptions IMO on those third and long downs and while spelling Droughns; those are yards that could have gone to Droughns and put him easily over the 100 yard mark for the day.
Asking Griffin to gain 10 yards or more on 8 carries might be a tall order, especially since he'll have his widdle feelings hurt if Droughns gets all those carries.
 
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Ok, to get this thread back on topic. Anybody find it curious that Mike Shanahan stated yesterday he already knows who will get the majority of the carries? I mean if it truly was a heated contest between Griffin and Droughns you would think he would watch them both practice all week and make up his mind on Saturday. However, the fact he's already stated he knows who will get the majority of the carries IMO points directly to Droughns. What could Shanahan have seen out of Griffin in practice this week that would make him confident in starting Griffin this week? Probably nothing because he's not the one starting.

 
Ok, to get this thread back on topic. Anybody find it curious that Mike Shanahan stated yesterday he already knows who will get the majority of the carries? I mean if it truly was a heated contest between Griffin and Droughns you would think he would watch them both practice all week and make up his mind on Saturday. However, the fact he's already stated he knows who will get the majority of the carries IMO points directly to Droughns. What could Shanahan have seen out of Griffin in practice this week that would make him confident in starting Griffin this week? Probably nothing because he's not the one starting.
Very observant Boss :thumbup: You would think he couldn't have seen much out of Griffin in that short time. However, maybe he made his mind up early based upon the injury status of Griffin? Maybe he is going to start Griffin because he's healthy? I'm playing devil's advocate, and I hope and think Droughns is the starter.
 
Ok, to get this thread back on topic. Anybody find it curious that Mike Shanahan stated yesterday he already knows who will get the majority of the carries? I mean if it truly was a heated contest between Griffin and Droughns you would think he would watch them both practice all week and make up his mind on Saturday. However, the fact he's already stated he knows who will get the majority of the carries IMO points directly to Droughns. What could Shanahan have seen out of Griffin in practice this week that would make him confident in starting Griffin this week? Probably nothing because he's not the one starting.
Very observant Boss :thumbup: You would think he couldn't have seen much out of Griffin in that short time. However, maybe he made his mind up early based upon the injury status of Griffin? Maybe he is going to start Griffin because he's healthy? I'm playing devil's advocate, and I hope and think Droughns is the starter.
Or maybe it's just Shanahan with another mind- :censored: :rant:
 
Ok, to get this thread back on topic. Anybody find it curious that Mike Shanahan stated yesterday he already knows who will get the majority of the carries? I mean if it truly was a heated contest between Griffin and Droughns you would think he would watch them both practice all week and make up his mind on Saturday. However, the fact he's already stated he knows who will get the majority of the carries IMO points directly to Droughns. What could Shanahan have seen out of Griffin in practice this week that would make him confident in starting Griffin this week? Probably nothing because he's not the one starting.
Very observant Boss :thumbup: You would think he couldn't have seen much out of Griffin in that short time. However, maybe he made his mind up early based upon the injury status of Griffin? Maybe he is going to start Griffin because he's healthy? I'm playing devil's advocate, and I hope and think Droughns is the starter.
Or maybe it's just Shanahan with another mind- :censored: :rant:
Shanahan = :devil: Trust not words that out of mouth come, young Padwan. From darkside is heStrictly RB :bs:
 

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