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Droughns vs. Griffin (1 Viewer)
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Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
I'm Chevy Chase and you're not.
Bluegrassman
Footballguy
Well, I guess if you say so...
Look at the facts here and not who is on your fantasy team. Griffin had a good week 1 and nothing else in next 3 weeks,with a few fumbles and the injury. Who would you start? A rookie named Bell or a veteran that can block? Droughns had 30+ carries and a few receptions to boot. I ask you who gives your team the best chance to win? Answer= DroughnsWell, I guess if you say so...
If Reuben does start with Griffin at back up this has to be terrible news for Bell owners. If RD struggles this week they will go to QG and likely give him a full opportunity to shine. Bell has to have both of these guys completely suck to get any significant pt in the next 2 weeks.
LivingTheDream
Footballguy
REUBY!!!! REUBY!!! REUBY!!! 
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mojorizin
Guest
Somebody by the guy a vowel, for Pete's sake.
Family Matters
Footballguy
Do you realize how this sounds? If you had said Droughns over Barlow 6 weeks ago you would've been crucified!Only in FF!I saw that report on NFL Live as well. He did not say where he got the information. I think at this point USA Today and Clayton are speculating. As a Droughns owner, I hope they are right, I plan to start him opposite McAllister instead of Barlow. Jamal Lewis is killing me!
Red Hot Tamales
Footballguy
I'm trying to trade Drougns for Carr to replace Vick, who I acquired in a QGriffin trade 3 weeks ago.I'm so confused.In case you are wondering, Tatum Bell is on my bench.
Down Under
Footballguy
Well, I'm close - I own Tatum in only one of four leagues and Q & Reuben in none. I think it's Reuben from here on out with some doses of Q. Unfortunately, I think Bell is on the outside looking in for this year, barring injury.
Pigskin75
Footballguy
Well, it appears the FBGs have taken a sip of the Droughns kool-aid. The updated cheatsheets have Droughns at 20 and Q at 39.There's no real explanation in the "Players in the News" article.Any lurking FBGs care to comment? What's your view of the situation?Obviously with both backs picked that low they expect the carries to be split but Q is almost 20 positions below Droughns.Personally I'd like to see more of the FBGs in here taking part in these discussions. They're the guys we rely on and they speak to us mostly through articles. Yeah, I know they're busy, but get out of the FFA and get into the football discussions.
**BREAKING NEWS ALERT**The FBG's are average Joe's and know no more or less than any member of this forum. I bet 80% of the forum members could write articles as good as what the FBG's put out. This is not a knock on the FBG's, just a knock on the "FBG's are holier than thou" attitude that is running rampant.
Pigskin75
Footballguy
No kidding? Gee, glad you're around to keep me straight.
Been here a long time Slash. I know the drill. But there's nothing wrong with insight and discussion.You've been rather negative of late Slash...why not be constructive and contribute to a conversation rather than attempt to belittle people with your negative waves. (Shameless Kelly's Heroes reference) 
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Terrel Davis, Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson and Querntin Griffin - in order.LOLSeriously - Jamal Anderson and Terrel Davis both went from nowhere to on everyone's radar in a meteoric fashion.On why FBFGuys are all over Droughns, prob. b/c of what was said earlier - Droughns fits their style of blocking better than Griff, and Griff is ideally suited to a third down/explosive back role.I think it'll end up
roughns 20-ish carries - 90-ish yards; 3 catches - 15 yardsGriffin 8 carries - 45 yards; 5 catches - 40 yardsThe Broncos RBs will both have a decent enough FF day to start at RB2 in a pinch, but even with Griffin as the starter, I think Shanhan was already committed to using someone else as the G/L short yardage back - and now that person is for sure Droughns (thus the higher ranking for Droughns by FBG, if I were pressed for an answer, that is).
tandl71
Footballguy
I've read at rotoworld.com that starting R. Droughns at tailback takes him away from his special team duties and role as first-string fullback.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be slightly less difficult to fill a position on special teams and at fullback than it would be to find a very good starting tailback that fits the Denver system well? Could Droughns' success at other roles really limit his carries at tailback this season?
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be slightly less difficult to fill a position on special teams and at fullback than it would be to find a very good starting tailback that fits the Denver system well? Could Droughns' success at other roles really limit his carries at tailback this season?
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Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Ease up - my guess is he was asking for a defense of the Droughns KoolAid.Your point on the staff not being more than the average Joe here is accurate - most of the staff = former board members. That said, those board guys were selected as staff b/c their insight matches what Joe and David want to project, therefore, asking for staff input in a FBGuy forum is not outlandish.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
In this writer's opinion, that is piss-poor anlysis - Shanny uses starters at PR/KR and ST all the time.DJ Williams and Rod Smith play on ST.
Regarding obscurity to cult following.. outside of Denver's backs I recall about 10-11 years ago one Gary Brown took over for Lorenzo White in the Houston Oilers run and shoot and almost single-handedly catapulted me to a few league titles.In like 8-9 games he rushed for 1,000 yds, scored 10+ TDs and caught a lot of passes out of the backfield. He was literally out of nowhere to a top 5 fantasy back almost overnight.I guess I've been around too long to remember that kinda stuff.. another is Eric Pegram of the Falcons.Both of these guys were strong fantasy backs for a short time then slide right back to obscurity.Another is Bernie freaking Parmalee who was with the Dolphins.Even Jamal Anderson wasn't drafted in many leagues before his first big season with the Falcons.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
P.S. - as for fullback, they use a lot of one-back sets, and they have Hape and Griffin for the blocking/pass catching duties in two-back sets.Rue in 2-back sets = one more good pass blocker on the field, better than Griff at picking up the blitz..
Pigskin75
Footballguy
I don't believe anyone here can deny Shanny's ability to find a diamond in the rough. He's done it too many times. But if Droughns is so good, why didn't he emerge as the #1 earlier instead of Griffin? Shanny traded Portis so everyone knew he had an ace up his sleeve. So that ace was Griffin, at least in week one. Now he pulls yet another rabbit out of his hat. To me, he sees both players getting reps in practice. Has the whole off season to evaluate his RBs talent and then he settles on Griffin after August drills and preseason. He, the great talent evaluator he is, leaves possibly his best back in a fullback and punt return role.I don't get it...Sunday will be interesting for sure. If you're a football fan it'll be like Christmas morning!One thing about Fantasy Football, it makes you a fan of several teams in the league, just not that one favorite you've been pulling for for years.
Ok, that's your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. But that's a typical response around here when you speak up and say something that probably half the board thinks but won't say. Anyways, I'm off that topic and really am interested in this Reuben Droughns debate considering I picked him up off the waiver wire last Friday. It'd be nice to start him this week, but that late game makes it a risky move considering Shanahan could very well give Griffin one last shot at redemption before making a permanent switch.
Pigskin75
Footballguy
Marc, you've always been very active and I appreciate it, as do many of the members here. Thanks.
I used the word "rely" and perhaps that was too strong, but if you pay for up to date FF information, you tend to "rely" on that information. I don't gulp the FBGs KoodAid, but if I'm willing to fork over my hard earned dollars, I must have some level of respect for their opinion!That said, I "rely" on this board as well. I've been around long enough to know who's opinion I can and can't trust. This is just a good place to be!
-OZ-
Footballguy
I once read an article stating "there are no Fantasy football experts"I agree entirely, but the FBG staff usually has decent information. Not perfect, and I doubt they know more about the Denver situation than most here, but overall they usually make good analysis. I trust no member completely, some more than others, and the staff most.If for no better reason than they are less likely to throw their readers off by giving "bad poop".Ok, that's your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. But that's a typical response around here when you speak up and say something that probably half the board thinks but won't say. Anyways, I'm off that topic and really am interested in this Reuben Droughns debate considering I picked him up off the waiver wire last Friday. It'd be nice to start him this week, but that late game makes it a risky move considering Shanahan could very well give Griffin one last shot at redemption before making a permanent switch.
Pigskin75
Footballguy
Now that's what I'm talking about. Good post Slash.I wish I had checked my package week before last and grabbed him up. But I went after Mewelde instead and thought myself set until Q was healthy. My reluctance cost me dearly!The late game, of which there are only two this week I believe, will make this a really tough call. Shanny won't show his cards until as late as possible, I'm sure. I'm glad Mewelde has a juicy match-up this week. Makes my decision a lot easier.Thanks for the good post Slash.
Remember Droughns was drafted as a halfback by the Lions,I believe. This is a lame debate IMO. Q is not the 20+ carry guy. Bell isn't either. So it boils down to Droughns or Hearst and he is old! If you have Droughns on your roster,Congrats.Look at the facts here and not who is on your fantasy team. Griffin had a good week 1 and nothing else in next 3 weeks,with a few fumbles and the injury. Who would you start? A rookie named Bell or a veteran that can block? Droughns had 30+ carries and a few receptions to boot. I ask you who gives your team the best chance to win? Answer= DroughnsWell, I guess if you say so...
Bluegrassman
Footballguy
That settles it. I'm with Gambler. So glad I picked him up.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
What do ytou have to back up that Griffin is not a 20 carry guy when Shanahan has treated him as such every game except the last one?I am not doubting Droughns gets the start, but not for the reason you profess.
RunBuck
Footballguy
So, the question now becomes .... for those of us w/ Droughns & Griffin ... do you take at face value who the starter declared as (and start them) or do you just go w/ your gut on who the highest value is (my gut says Droughns for TD factor in short yardage).Can't trust skeletor ... but maybe you can on his announcement of 'starter'.Of course this only matters if you can change lineups up to gametime. 
derek19
Footballguy
ya roasters, you did get lucky, won the first game by 3 points and the second game by 1.1pts. MY te didn't catch a pass My sorry team is:BrooksDroughnsTomlinsonMouldsRoy willamsI don't know why he put chad johnson on there when he's only score 50 pts, marcus robinson has scored more than that loser.....
My sorry team is:BrooksDroughnsTomlinsonMouldsRoy willamsI don't know why he put chad johnson on there when he's only score 50 pts, marcus robinson has scored more than that loser.....
kbreaker
Footballguy
Just curious if anyone has gone back and looked at similar situations in the past and which direction Skeletor has gone. Surely there must be some comparable situation with the revolvng door of Bronco RBs over the past few years. TD, Anderson, Gary, Portis, etc... Has the guy who got injured always started when he got healthy?Then again, maybe there is no comparable situation, as I remember some season ending injuries, which obviously isn't comparable to Q and Droughns.Thoughts?
