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Droughns vs. Griffin (1 Viewer)

Mike Herman

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Mike Shanahan, who runs the Broncos' personnel business in his own secret service way, spent time with President Bush this week during a campaign stop in the area. The two talked about football and the Broncos' 4-1 start as Denver heads into Sunday's AFC West matchup at Oakland. Good thing the conversation didn't turn to what has been a major question all week: Will Reuben Droughns get another chance to run for nearly 200 yards? "I probably would have told him if he asked," Shanahan said, referring to Bush.

However, for those non-presidential inquiring minds, Shanahan said they will have to wait until Sunday to see whether Droughns - the starting fullback for the first four games - will be the primary tailback after his dominating 30-carry, 193-yard performance in 20-17 victory over Carolina. Droughns was playing in place of Quentin Griffin, out with a sprained left ankle. Griffin, who struggled the three weeks before his injury, practiced at full speed Wednesday, Shanahan said. Griffin is listed as probable on the injury report and is expected to play.

Shanahan has hinted he has made up his mind about who will get the majority of carries. "They're trying to get that out of me here, too," Shanahan told Oakland reporters Wednesday. "They'll both get a chance to play, that's for sure."

One possibility is Droughns will take many of the carries while the speedy Griffin plays more of a change-of-pace role. Droughns, a power runner, proved Sunday against Carolina that he is a good fit for the offense. Against the Panthers he proved difficult to tackle. He also was excellent in short- yardage situations, an area in which Griffin struggles. Griffin is valued for his speed. He rushed for 156 yards in the season opener against Kansas City, but then gained a combined 139 yards in the next three games.

Raiders coach Norv Turner said he expects to see a lot of Droughns. "Oh, yeah, we're familiar with him," Turner said. "He's such a physical, downhill runner and obviously he was extremely impressive."

Droughns said he hopes to get another opportunity. "It was a lot of fun playing, and I hope I get to play some more," Droughns said. "But we'll have to wait and see what happens. I don't know the plan. "But I will prepare like I'm playing. I think I showed I can help the team."

Droughns will remain the primary kick returner. He is averaging 25.8 yards a carry and impressed the coaching staff with his bruising style. The staff was pleased to see Droughns display the same, difficult-to- take-down style at tailback. If Droughns gets most of the carries and needs a breather from returns, rookie Triandos Luke likely would take on those duties.
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Sounds like its a foregone conclusion that Reuben is gonna get the nod. Too many factors working for him. Start Reuben people!

 
well i justy dealt for him ( price for droughns ) figured it was worth the gamble its only going to go 1 way Droughsn becomes the starter and a great start for this year or he is a nothing .. and i just wasted Price

 
Let's assume for the sake of argument that Droughns is the lead back, Griffin the change of pace.Where does Rueben rank among RBs? Top 15? 20? 10?

 
Where does Rueben rank among RBs? Top 15? 20? 10?
Let's see. He was completely ineffective against all but JV run Ds. Now he is going to get his opportunities cut in half (and Bell is still lurking).Yeah, I think top 10 ought to be about right. :rolleyes:
 
Where does Rueben rank among RBs? Top 15? 20? 10?
Let's see. He was completely ineffective against all but JV run Ds. Now he is going to get his opportunities cut in half (and Bell is still lurking).Yeah, I think top 10 ought to be about right. :rolleyes:
Griffen on the brain?
 
Pony Boy, is a joke. Two Denver RB's, not named Bell, have had 150+ yard days in Denver already in 5 games this year. Droughns was very impressive and brought back memories of the Terrell Davis days. I'm a Bell owner, and unless injuries play a role again this year, I admit it's beginning to look like Bell will have to play the role of understudy this year and stake a claim to the job nextyear in training camp.

 
If Droughns does the running, who does the blocking in two back sets?

When Carswell lines up against the Raiders on Sunday in Oakland, Calif., he'll check in at about 292 pounds. Carswell gained the extra weight when the Broncos switched him to left tackle. But in early September, he was moved back to tight end, his NFL home for 10 seasons. Carswell said he hasn't shed the weight after ballooning to play tackle. He said he may lose weight in the offseason but doesn't think his current size is hurting him. "I'm in great shape and I haven't lost any speed, plus the extra weight helps with blocking," Carswell said after Sunday's game.

That was evident against the Panthers when Carswell, along with fellow tight ends Patrick Hape and Jeb Putzier, often lined up at fullback to clear holes for Reuben Droughns. Coach Mike Shanahan said the versatility of his blocking tight ends is invaluable. "We have two tight ends - Patrick Hape and Dwayne Carswell - that can play the fullback position, which is pretty unusual when one guy is weighing 300 pounds (Carswell) and the other guy is weighing 265 pounds," Shanahan said.
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Kyle Johnson didn't quite make it to the level of Droughns; he did his post-game interviews in front of his locker, rather than behind a lectern. But Johnson's emotions were just as powerful, and they started the moment he saw 46 players on the opposite sideline brandishing the silver helmet he thought he'd wear for years after Carolina drafted him in 2002. "I was very emotional at the end of the game. My eyes might still be a little bit red," Johnson said.

When Droughns moved to running back, Johnson moved up to the vacated fullback slot -- a position he learned to play in the NFL by watching Droughns. "I watch him to learn what I'm doing wrong," Johnson said. "The coaches sometimes remind me of that because his technique is very good in the way he executes the plays. So every day you get reminded."
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290 lbs. Carswell

242 lbs. Johnson

207 lbs. Droughns

 
Droughns was very impressive and brought back memories of the Terrell Davis days.
:rotflmao: Come on.

Get a grip folks. Maybe Droughns is the next big thing, but i would look for him to repeat his performance against a team that isnt giving up 160 y/g before anointing him. For reference this is still the team that managed to rush for 33 yards against the mighty Chargers, and I think everyone on the roster got a carry. Top 20? Wait and see.

 
Droughns was very impressive and brought back memories of the Terrell Davis days.
:rotflmao: Come on.

Get a grip folks. Maybe Droughns is the next big thing, but i would look for him to repeat his performance against a team that isnt giving up 160 y/g before anointing him. For reference this is still the team that managed to rush for 33 yards against the mighty Chargers, and I think everyone on the roster got a carry. Top 20? Wait and see.
You're the one that needs to get a grip. You're the same fool that makes the same mistake over and over and over again. Sooner or later you'll remember that your boss likes 1 spoon of sugar and 1 of cream in his coffee. Seriously, Terrell Davis owners (back in the day when he was just becoming a full-time starter) were laughed at if they mentioned he would be a stud back.

When Terrell Davis got hurt, people who picked up Olandis Gary off waivers were laughed at when they mentioned Gary could also become a 1000+ yard back in Denver.

When Olandis Gary got hurt, people who picked up Mike Anderson were laughed at when they mentioned he could step in also and be a stud back.

When Shanahan drafted Portis, people laughed and said he was too small and couldn't be a durable workhorse in Denver to be a stud back.

And now......people still laugh at the thought that an unknown like Droughns (who already posted a 193 yard effort in his first start as the Denver RB) could step in and perform admirably as the featured back in Denver, and dare I say stud-like?

Keep laughing, you're the same fools making the same mistake over and over and over in fantasy football and then at the end of the year you never have any playoff appearances or championships to show for all the time you spend on fantasy football; you even get so down on yourself, as your fantasy blues set in, that you contemplate quitting your leagues altogether. Keep laughing.

 
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Keep laughing, you're the same fools making the same mistake over and over and over in fantasy football and then at the end of the year you never have any playoff appearances or championships to show for all the time you spend on fantasy football; you even get so down on yourself, as your fantasy blues set in, that you contemplate quitting your leagues altogether. Keep laughing.
This is coming from the guy with the Kevan Barlow icon.
 
Ever heard of the concept of a dynasty league?Guess we should all dump Kevan Barlow and Clinton Portis now.?
Yeh, those two are comparable. On a side note, that's why im holding onto Lawrence Phillips in my dynasty league. He's gonna be huge. If you dont agree you've never won a fantasy league and will quit soon.edited for bad speling
 
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You're going to see both Droughns and Griffin in the game. You're going to see a tougher run defense this week vs. Denver. Long term, Bell will be worked into the offense. However, he's not 100 percent healthy and he's too raw to have the starting role. Tatum Bell in redrafts going into week 6 is close to worthless.I mean, if you were trying to trade for Tatum Bell, who would you give up? Not a whole lot.Would you even give up Artose PInner? I wouldn't.

 
When Olandis Gary got hurt, people who picked up Mike Anderson were laughed at when they mentioned he could step in also and be a stud back.When Shanahan drafted Portis, people laughed and said he was too small and couldn't be a durable workhorse in Denver to be a stud back.
Loco - I agree with you on the parts I quoted, but really, do you need to make personal attacks? I know I've done the same thing from time to time, but I hope to never do that again. It doesn't help add meaningful conversation to the thread.
 
On a side note, that's why im holding onto Lawrence Phillips in my dynasty league. He's gonna be huge. If you dont agree you've never won a fantasy league and will quit soon.edited for bad speling
So now you're comparing Kevan Barlow to Lawrence Phillips? Please. :rolleyes: You've just brought the level of this thread down to grade school level. I'm done with you.
 
So now you're comparing Kevan Barlow to Lawrence Phillips? Please. You've just brought the level of this thread down to grade school level. I'm done with you.
Im heart broken. I suppose I have only myself to blame for daring to question whether Rueben Droughns is the next Terrell Davis. Damnable cynics.
 
Im heart broken. I suppose I have only myself to blame for daring to question whether Rueben Droughns is the next Terrell Davis. Damnable cynics.
Want to put your money where your mouth is? I'll take Rueben Droughns for another solid week against Oakland.
 
Im heart broken. I suppose I have only myself to blame for daring to question whether Rueben Droughns is the next Terrell Davis. Damnable cynics.
Want to put your money where your mouth is? I'll take Rueben Droughns for another solid week against Oakland.
I agree with the Boss. Droughns should get another start after his performance last week. If he doesn't, trade all your Denver RB's, because the nightmare all year long will be more than you can handle.
 
This is coming from the guy with the Kevan Barlow icon.
And what's in your icon, killer?
LOL. Great point! Besides, what does having Barlow in your avatar have to do with ANYTHING?Part of the fun/challenge of FF is speculating whether someone such as Droughns is another studly fit-in of Denver's running scheme or just a one hit wonder? So what if some are gven to hyperbole? Why so pissy???
 
Long term, Bell will be worked into the offense.
Give it up. Bell isn't going to do squat unless there are more injuries. I'm sick and tired of the Bell Pimps in the Pool when he hasn't done jack s***.
 
Droughns was very impressive and brought back memories of the Terrell Davis days.
:rotflmao: Come on.

Get a grip folks. Maybe Droughns is the next big thing, but i would look for him to repeat his performance against a team that isnt giving up 160 y/g before anointing him. For reference this is still the team that managed to rush for 33 yards against the mighty Chargers, and I think everyone on the roster got a carry. Top 20? Wait and see.
mbuehner, don't look now (or do...) but SOMEONE snuck a sig line in on you. Obviously, you didn't approve of that prose.
 
MY TAKE Droughns looks awsome ,..... i watched that game and he looked all the way around good .. i mean the guy running the way he did and getting the holes that he did . woudl have done it on any team with that said ANYONE who trades a proven stud RB . or a proven stud player in general for Droughns yet .. is well .. taking a huge riskas states above .. I recently traded P.Price for Droughns.. basically because Price has no value in my league .. and its even a dynasty league .. and Droughns could be a boom .... but he couls easily be a bust ask yourself this... M.Anderson proved he could do it . but was left at FB because it was what was best for the team .. lsoing their FB in their running game is not a good thing .. this is a big reason why i almost said no to price for droughns ...at the same time .. what droughns did last weekend . will give griffin a very short leash . and if he sucks again . .DROUGHNS will get a chance .. it is worth taking a chance on DROUGHNS .. if and only IF you can get him for FREE or you can get him for a very low player .. a dime a dozen WR is basically his value after 1 week ... BUT this is 10 times up from his value before last week .. which was nothing

 
a dime a dozen WR is basically his value after 1 week ... BUT this is 10 times up from his value before last week .. which was nothing
So one should trade 10 dime a dozen WR's for Droughns? Just kidding :D I agree with most of your opinions on Droughns, however, that leash for Griffin may not exist at all. He may not get another chance until Droughns doesn't do the job, which may not happen.
 
If you were Mike Shanahan, who would be carrying the ball for you this week?To anyone who watched last week's game, the answer is obvious.

 
Griffin runs for a million yards and 3 tds in game 1 against a terrible defense. Value today? Not good.Droughns, a journeyman fullback, has a great game against a terrible run defense. Value today? Next TD.But i'm the irrational one. :gang:

 
:duel: Seriously, the "top 10?" was :fishing: but it is possible.

I'm just debating between starting Ahman and Droughns for this week now.

I can't handle another 5 point day from Ahman and the Lions D is actually pretty decent. (ok, I'm probably sticking with the "stud" but I'm sure some see the dilemna)

When does the weekly rankings come out?

When it comes to Droughns, it isn't his total yardage that impresses me.

It's that he had no negative carries all day. That is huge for a team.

 
Griffin runs for a million yards and 3 tds in game 1 against a terrible defense. Value today? Not good.Droughns, a journeyman fullback, has a great game against a terrible run defense. Value today? Next TD.But i'm the irrational one. :gang:
Wasn't Q supposed to be the next Barry Sanders? At least people are being more realistic, now. ;)
 
I'll take the over. Now what are you allowed to wager?
Who said anything about the over. You said he'd have a solid week, 63 yards is not a solid week. If you want a bet you set the line. Whats Droughns good for?
 
I'll take the over. Now what are you allowed to wager?
Who said anything about the over. You said he'd have a solid week, 63 yards is not a solid week. If you want a bet you set the line. Whats Droughns good for?
:rotflmao: Stepping back out of this one, heh?You've come into this thread with such a strong opinion of Droughns, you set his stat line for the week, and now you won't back it up? Good one.
 
You said he'd have a solid week, 63 yards is not a solid week.
Really?What's a "solid" week?I'd consider 150 yards a great week100 yards a good week63 yards a "solid" week.A guy gets that every week, it's a 1000 yard season. Solid.
 
Stepping back out of this one, heh?.
No. You asked me what I thought a mans stats would be. That doesn mean im willing to bet on that. If he gets one more yard I lose, meanwhile you're the one pimping him and he still has a lousy day. Doesnt prove much does it? If you are confident in Droughns why dont you put your prediction down?
You've come into this thread with such a strong opinion of Droughns, you set his stat line for the week, and now you won't back it up? Good one
Reread the thread. I dont have strong opinion on Droughns. Thats the point. You are the one that asked me for the stat line. I gave my opinion. Why dont you give yours?
 
A guy gets that every week, it's a 1000 yard season. Solid.
From a fantasy pov that is a disaster. Would you start a RB knowing he'd end up with 1000 yards and a couple TDs? 1000 yards doesnt mean crap if its spread over 16 games. Ask anyone that had Curtis Martin last year.
 
Stepping back out of this one, heh?.
No. You asked me what I thought a mans stats would be. That doesn mean im willing to bet on that. If he gets one more yard I lose, meanwhile you're the one pimping him and he still has a lousy day. Doesnt prove much does it? If you are confident in Droughns why dont you put your prediction down?
You've come into this thread with such a strong opinion of Droughns, you set his stat line for the week, and now you won't back it up? Good one
Reread the thread. I dont have strong opinion on Droughns. Thats the point. You are the one that asked me for the stat line. I gave my opinion. Why dont you give yours?
You're the one in this thread laughing at those who say Droughns could be a good one. I haven't pimped Droughns one bit in this thread besides saying I feel he'll have another solid week against Oakland. I told you to put your money where your mouth is and set the stat line for the week. Now you won't back it up? Come on, now. Back it up if you're so sure of yourself. Instead you're now trying to be sly and attempting to get me to raise the stat line so you have a better chance of winning. Not going to happen because I'm not the one in this thread laughing at other people's opinions like you are. I simply challenged you to back up your own loud opinion, which you obviously won't. If you don't want to bet just say so and walk away, no need for you to tap dance and sing for us.
 
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I starting Droughns over Griffin.I think he'll get more carries, and will be used at the goaline. He's a easy choice.If Droughns has a good game, Griffin will be spending a lot of time on the bench.

 
A guy gets that every week, it's a 1000 yard season. Solid.
From a fantasy pov that is a disaster. Would you start a RB knowing he'd end up with 1000 yards and a couple TDs? 1000 yards doesnt mean crap if its spread over 16 games. Ask anyone that had Curtis Martin last year.
I suppose that depends how you define "solid".CurMar was solid last year, #18 RB overall in my main league. Sure he didn't have "great weeks" or a "great" season but it was solid.
 

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