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Duke Johnson RB Dolphins (5 Viewers)
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Alex P Keaton
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Some people like to see proof in black and white. Others are able to arrange the mosaic pieces into a pattern.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
I agree he could be a great value. I also plan on grabbing him where I can in redraft in the latter rounds... but I think his current price is fitting. If his price starts rising to where West is... not so much.
TartanLion
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
http://www.news-herald.com/sports/20150822/cleveland-browns-duke-johnson-returns-to-practice
some highlights...
Blunt-talking running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery believes the practice time Johnson missed won’t hamper him because the Browns and Miami Hurricanes use the same offense. Johnson averaged 6.9 yards a carry in college. He is the only running back in the glorious history of the ’Canes to rush for 900-plus yards in three straight seasons.
“Before his injury, he showed us the things we wanted to see,” Montgomery said recently. “As long as he stays focused and stays into it, I think he’s going to be OK because he’s done a lot of things already. The running part of it — he’s a running back. Put him on his track and tell him his keys and he’s going to be fine.
“He gives you another dimension that we don’t have in the group that we had last year. Duke can be a slot receiver. He can line up wide and you can move him all over the field. He’s a total mismatch. In my report, I wrote him up as a Thurman Thomas-type running back when he came out because he can be in any spot and take advantage of his athleticism.”
some highlights...
Blunt-talking running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery believes the practice time Johnson missed won’t hamper him because the Browns and Miami Hurricanes use the same offense. Johnson averaged 6.9 yards a carry in college. He is the only running back in the glorious history of the ’Canes to rush for 900-plus yards in three straight seasons.
“Before his injury, he showed us the things we wanted to see,” Montgomery said recently. “As long as he stays focused and stays into it, I think he’s going to be OK because he’s done a lot of things already. The running part of it — he’s a running back. Put him on his track and tell him his keys and he’s going to be fine.
“He gives you another dimension that we don’t have in the group that we had last year. Duke can be a slot receiver. He can line up wide and you can move him all over the field. He’s a total mismatch. In my report, I wrote him up as a Thurman Thomas-type running back when he came out because he can be in any spot and take advantage of his athleticism.”
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I think as long as he can suit up and play this week in week 3 he gets the most touches in week 1 and say what you want but Cleveland is a very good running team.
They want Duke to be the guy to lead an inept offense. Duke could be a surprise guy to grab and be rewarded with a top 20 rb at the end of the season.
They want Duke to be the guy to lead an inept offense. Duke could be a surprise guy to grab and be rewarded with a top 20 rb at the end of the season.
We Tigers
Footballguy
I have him on nearly every team, a relatively late pickup in all of them. Excited to see what he can do in week 3. Johnson was utterly electric at the U, their best playmaker every season. I had the pleasure to see him in person a few times, and his quick twitch moves to get those extra few yards are impressive.
Banger
Footballguy
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleveland-browns-duke-johnson-mike-pettine-looks-explosive-in-return-082415
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/mike_pettine_on_duke_johnsons.html
"It's tough on a defense when you have both tailbacks out there,'' said coach Mike Pettine. "You can use Duke as a wideout. It just gives you a little more flexibility from a formation standpoint, which then lends itself to a possible mismatch when you use Duke as a wideout. You can react to what a defense puts out there and call your play accordingly. That is something I am sure we will use."
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/mike_pettine_on_duke_johnsons.html
"It's tough on a defense when you have both tailbacks out there,'' said coach Mike Pettine. "You can use Duke as a wideout. It just gives you a little more flexibility from a formation standpoint, which then lends itself to a possible mismatch when you use Duke as a wideout. You can react to what a defense puts out there and call your play accordingly. That is something I am sure we will use."
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Shutout
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How can that be? Didn't Miami have Phillip Dorsett, the guy that everyone thinks is the greatest thing since sliced bread?We Tigers said:
I think Duke Johnson is falling into a category with David Johnson and Perriman. These are three really good players that lost a lot of their buzz fast because they weren't flashing and getting a lot of publicity like some other guys have. People just don't have the patience these days. They want to see those names all over Twitter and highlight shows in the pre-season.
Duke could have some real good value and might be most valuable down the stretch of the season which would be ideal to strengthen your team when it matters the most. My biggest concern for him is durability. I'm not sure the Browns can use him in the best way without exposing him to overuse.
The LAST thing I want to see is for Duke Johnson to be the darling of September in fantasy because if he is, the Brown will wear him out and by November, he will be of no use to us. I would prefer he be a 7-9 touch guy for about 6 weeks and then take off.
jurb26
Footballguy
It might be hard to believe but yes, Duke was easily the best playmaker for Mia in all 3 years. Dorsett might have been the most underutilized and developed player in college football. Yeah, the raw skills were there but Mia never harnessed it for multiple reasons.
Gopher State
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Banger
Footballguy
Ya I'm torn. Own him in one league but want him in 2 others that haven't drafted yet and don't want his stock to skyrocket.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
So you hope to draft a guy who looks crappy?
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Mary Kay Cabot @MaryKayCabot 1m1 minute ago
#Browns finally get Duke Johnson back from the hamstring and now he might have a concussion
Banger
Footballguy
It's a long season. I'm just hoping to draft him cheap as possible. I think he can be a difference maker for a bargain price. Certainly worth the risk. Great line, good defense, coaches don't like starters, they've raved about him being a difference maker, having a big role and he was the all time rush leader at Miami. What am I missing ? This screams potential good upside for no downside.Alex P Keaton said:
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
Mehh...so his brain is scrambled? I was very happy to get Duke in the middle of the 10th Rd (12 team redraft) today. Guess I just can't have nice things.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
Fantasysports1
Footballguy
I don't think he is that cheap in drafts. In the 9th round of 12 team PPR, there are hardly any RBs left. If he were to stay healthy, you could argue he is the top option available or one of the top ones. DMC could be a solid option which I forgot about. The RBs really fall off after a certain point.
ourmanflint
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cubbie5150
Footballguy
Call it personal preference, but I'd rather lose a couple rounds of draft value than have my player suffer a head injury (perhaps a significant one at that). But I'm funny that way. Plus, I drafted him before the injury anyway.
ROYALWITCHEESE
Footballguy
TripItUp
Footballguy
and that's the problem with this forum from a redraft perspective...people are here rooting for players they've already drafted instead of objectively evaluating performance.
All objectivity is lost...see it in almost every player thread here.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
You are doing the same thing just from the opposite end. You are rooting against players so that their ADP stays in a certain place so you can draft them at a lower cost. Others are rooting for their players to do well so that their value increases.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Totally agree. In no scenario was it good for Duke to lay an egg and get injured last night
cubbie5150
Footballguy
Maybe I'm missing the point here (probably am), but in what way is a head injury helpful for player value??? I'm confused by the rejoinder that implies people in this forum fail at player evaluation.
TripItUp
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Guess I don't. Some people in here were rooting for Duke to do nothing yesterday, so that his "value" stayed low. He has done nothing in preseason to indicate that he will make any impact this year, and now he is hurt. I'm sure Duke owners (other than me) will spin this as a positive.Help me understand what I'm missing.you don't get it...it's okay.
Insein
Footballguy
If it wasn't serious and you felt for the year overall he's still going to be good then I guess keeping his value down is helpful. I don't necessarily agree but I think that was his idea.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Exactly. It was observation of a logic fail.
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Concussion question for the forum: does one concussion post NFL draft start the career concussion count? I'm considering buying low in dynasty. I believe in Duke Johnson's talent but nervous that he could be another Jahvid Best.
jurb26
Footballguy
This is his second concussion. Why are people continually comparing it to Best?
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Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Because at some point they shut down Best's career before it got off the ground. Like I said before, I like Duke. Am considering buying. Would you have concerns or no?
jurb26
Footballguy
Best situation was a rare one and an anomaly. I don't think it's fair to compare it to anyone. It's like people trying to compare Gurley's knee injury to Latimore. There are variances in severity. I'm concerned Duke has battled several injuries in the past 3 years. None in and of itself has me ultra concerned. The sum of the parts does. He might just have had a run of bad luck. He might be brittle. It's too early too tell IMO.
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Banger
Footballguy
it's been very quiet since the concussion a week ago which isn't a great thing. you like to hear that they've gone through the protocol and got cleared but haven't heard any news so far. With opening day a week away I assume they'd want him cleared and practicing for opening day next week. For whatever reason the coaches thought that it might be a little while which again is something you don't want to hear.
anyone else hearing anything?
anyone else hearing anything?
