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I don't get it. There are two options for a team to have the roster space to add their rookie picks:1) They clear the space as picks are made, during the draft;
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ThisCreate extra roster space for the rookie draft and trades but no free agent pick ups. Before the season starts return to the set number of roster spots.Why would you have a rule in place that you must drop a player in the offseason before you make a draft pick?
To add another element of forethought and strategy. In my league, you must decide a couple of weeks ahead of time how many players you will drop before the rookie/FA draft. All 12 teams get a 1st round pick, but after that, when you pick again depends on how many players you dropped. The more you drop, the earlier your next pick will be.
Am I allowed to drop a player during rookie drafts? Yes. In fact, our league rules stipulate that I must. Draft a player, drop a player. Originally we had to drop before the draft, but the league voted to change the rule last year.Unless you're in my league, though, I don't know what relevance this has for you. Sounds like someone's dynasty league needs a better rulebook.
It could make a huge difference in terms of whether you drop a player or not. In that week before the draft and during the NFL draft itself there is a lot of movement. So we drop a week before the NFL draft. For example, if you had Matt Moore you would have been keeping him before the draft, but after Jimmy Clausen was drafted Moore's value went way down. I don't know that there is a right or a wrong way to do it, but being consistent within the league is the key thing.
Given that many of us have multiple leagues, you should have included a "both" option. Two of my leagues allow us to drop right before the pick. My other league requires the drops to be made before the draft starts.
Because the league decided to have a set roster limit all year.
The trades just happen earlier.
It does make a difference, so it just comes down to which your league prefers. Maybe I'm inconsistent but I like my rookie drafts early but cuts not to happen until later in the year to see if that late pick or waiver flier you picked up last year is worth keeping. It's also the way the NFL does it, if that matters to the owners.
somewhat but I suppose this is mitigated by simply trading even numbers of players+picks.
That would take the abilty to trade during the rookie draft when someone falls and you are willing to trade back or up in the draft to get the player you didn't think would be there. That would take away the fun for about 7 out of the 14 owners in the dynasty league I run. Everyone does things differently. In the dynasty I commish, we have a 30 man roster limit with 4 taxi squad (rookies and injured players dbt and up) during the regular season. In the off-season we have a 40 man limit as we have 3 periods of blind bidding free agency (opens up June, July, and August 1-7 with waivers processed on the 7th). I found that letting teams have unlimited rosters caused them a lot of problems cutting players ie: too many choices.
I think it makes it more interesting. The only difference is that we don't have as much ammunition because we had to free up roster spots prior to the draft. My original response concerned the utilization of players who are or may be dropped. We have a 26 man roster and a four round draft. If you want to keep 23 instead of 22 you have to find a way before the drop date to work it out. Maybe you do a 2-for-1 player trade or trade a current year draft pick for a future draft pick so you only have to drop 3 players to fill three draft spots. That doesn't stop trades from happening during the draft. We have active owners who find a way to make it work.anakin said:
Not at all.
So it makes it more difficult, there's nothing wrong with that.
Name one.
I already did earlier. You should not have to drop players because you may not end up using the draft picks you have in the current draft. You may decide to unload them for picks in a future draft. Another reason is that I may be able to trade those players during the draft. Unexpected news can change the landscape of any deal. There are more. Now when I say you shouldn't have to drop a player, I mean you shouldn't have to do it before the draft for the number of players you have picks. I do believe ini dropping players during the draft to make room for the drafted player. If you're not extending rosters and having a cut down later, you should not be allowed to exceed the roster limit.
Disagree and laugh and squirm all you want, but it doesn't look like many agree with you.Not at all.So it makes it more difficult, there's nothing wrong with that.
You will if you've dropped players already and it means having an open spot on your roster.
You can do that before the draft.
You can do that before the draft.
That's true with any deadline.
Why? Bottom line, it's a preference just like line-up requirements and scoring. Nothing you've said proves your preference "right" and cutting before drafts "wrong."
The results of this poll begs to differ.
Lots of people doing the same thing doesn't mean something is "right", it just means lots of people do it.
Here's how we do it in our league:Roster limit of 25 players at all times (offseason, in-season, during draft, etc.)Immediately prior to the draft in August, every team must cut at least as many players as picks they'd like to make most teams cut around 3. In a twelve team league, you're not exactly cutting premium players at the 23rd, 24th, and 25th roster spots; I have a pretty deep and lean (no kicker at all) roster, and I shouldn't have any trouble cutting three guys to make the three rookie picks I plan to take. The cut players end up in the pool for the rookie/vet draft, which spices up that draft a bit.The net effect of forcing pre-draft cuts is to a) slightly increase the quality of the following draft;b) require a little bit more foresight and strategy, as you should be figuring out whether you're better off with the the 23rd best guy on your roster vs. a third round rookie pick;c) turn over the bottoms of roster a little bit more (this affects kickers and defenses the most)It's not like this is some clearly inferior rule, it's just another option. Many owners might feel that these advantages are outweighed by a slight loss in roster flexibility (you might cut a guy that you end up liking more than the rookie you get with that spot), but that's just part of the game. People acting like cut-as-picks-are-made was handed down by Moses from the Mountain top are losing a bit of perspective.
The results of the poll are in no way related to your characterization of the practice.
I don't really care for anything that hamstrings trading.I don't want to be involved in a league where a guy might say, "I'd like to trade down with you for extra picks, but I don't have the roster space."Offseason roster expansion (within reason) doesn't seem a very unreasonable concession. I get that it can possibly add to strategy, and but if we are talking about a dynasty, year-round league, I wanna cut my guys whenever the heck I want.
If you need to drop a player to make room for a trade, that's fine. Your roster ends up full. No extra picks awarded. If a trade leaves you with an empty roster spot you don't get an extra pick, but you have the spot for the waivers that open up after the draft.
The NFL has to make these tough decisions in late August, not May.
No thank you very much. There are many ways to made decisions hard, like smaller roster sizes. Making someone cut players = number of picks they have is ridiculous, unless you're just dropping a player before you pick so your roster is legal. What if I want to trade those picks for future picks during the draft because of who's left by the time it's my pick?
The difference being that the NFL team GET TO SEE THEM PERFORM IN CAMP/PRE-SEASON. Why shouldn't we?I don't think any setup here is necessarily wrong, but I strongly prefer expanded rosters in off-season for this reason. NFL teams routinely have 75+ players signed at this point in the year...and many of our leagues won't allow even a 3 or 4 man expansion? Sorry...I don't get that.
You keep all your picks. Once you have reached your max roster, either your pick is skipped or you trade it. You only lose the picks you don't use or can't trade and by the 4th or 5th round, those picks have minimal value.
