DYNASTY: 2012 Top college prospects (1 Viewer)

[duaneok66]

Jeffery showin' out right now - 4-148-1 at the half.

 

[metoo]

Jeffery showin' out right now - 4-148-1 at the half.

Great catch, most here are down on him. I'm hoping to get him in the second or third round of rookie drafts. He doesn't have the speed but he's a "my ball" type of guy.

 

[duaneok66]

Jeffery showin' out right now - 4-148-1 at the half.

Great catch, most here are down on him. I'm hoping to get him in the second or third round of rookie drafts. He doesn't have the speed but he's a "my ball" type of guy.

doubt he will last to the second round - he probably goes in the bottom half of the first.

 

[J-Dawg]

Great news! The 2012 rookie draft just improved once again.

Washington RB Chris Polk will forgo his senior season and enter the 2012 NFL draft.The second leading rusher in Huskies history (57 yards short of Napoleon Kaufman), Polk is listed at 5-foot-11, 222 and is coming off a first-team All-Pac 12 junior season. Already 22, Polk amassed 799 career carries and has future NFL feature back written all over him. Polk has a thick, powerful lower body, is underrated in the receiving game, and is considered to have elite vision. He projects as a top-50 pick and potential late first-rounder.

 

[coolnerd]

Jeffery showin' out right now - 4-148-1 at the half.

Great catch, most here are down on him. I'm hoping to get him in the second or third round of rookie drafts. He doesn't have the speed but he's a "my ball" type of guy.

My current guess is that he is going to be NFL drafted high enough and has enough college production that most of the people "down" on him will not let him past about overall pick 10 or so regradless of format.

 

[Cripster]

Ballard doesn't have much burst and can dance too much for a guy his size. But he's got good hands, so he might be a 3rd down RB at the next level.

Mississippi homer here. Kid was a great player. He was tough, blocked well, caught passes and performed well for a team that more often than not was out-gunned in SEC play. He does not have very good measureables. I dont think he really dances a lot. He is a one-cut kind of guy. He isnt really all that big. Plays at about 215. I think he makes a roster as a 5th rounder or later because he is a hard worker who will play special teams. He is more talented than Law Firm or someone like that. It will come down to opportunity.

 

[metoo]

Jeffery showin' out right now - 4-148-1 at the half.

Great catch, most here are down on him. I'm hoping to get him in the second or third round of rookie drafts. He doesn't have the speed but he's a "my ball" type of guy.

My current guess is that he is going to be NFL drafted high enough and has enough college production that most of the people "down" on him will not let him past about overall pick 10 or so regradless of format.

The third is a stretch but I feel he will drop to the second in rookie drafts. He doesn't have the speed and will probably run a slow 40 time at the combine. I like him and I think he's the real deal but I think he will drop in drafts.

 

[duaneok66]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

 

[DexterDew]

+1

i know Rookie drafts are RB heavy, but unless something changes greatly between now and the draft, i see Jeffery as a Top 4 WR selection for FF, which puts him around the end of the 1st and begining of the 2nd. Personally, if he has a good combine and lands in a favorable situation, I would consider him between 1.08-1.11.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

 

[duaneok66]

So there is no way he is a first round (NFL) pick??

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

So there is no way he is a first round (NFL) pick??

Entering the 2011 college season I had Blackmon, Criner, Broyles, Fuller, Floyd all ahead of him. As the season is almost done, Broyles gets a knock because of the injury. Fuller isn't great at separation either. He's fighting as my WR3/4/5 of this class. Late 1st/most likely mid second round pick.

 

[metoo]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

 

[Native]

Brandon Boykin, DB from Georgia is an explosive athlete and is killing it today vs Michigan State in the outback bowl. He has more ST return TD's than any player in SEC history. Good tackler and elite speed.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

 

[coolnerd]

Well, we got to see that Alton is not good fighter. Got tossed for a really weak swing and push.

 

[metoo]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

So nothing.

 

[MAC_32]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

LuckGriffinRichardsonMillerBallMartinPolkJamesBlackmonWrightSanuFloydThat's 12. Others will throw Wilson out there too, but I'm still skeptical about him.There are others I like more than Jeffrey (Jordan White and Bernard Pierce immediately come to mind) but since I expect them to be drafted on day 3 it will be difficult to justify a fantasy pick of either before Jeffrey. I'll be targeting both though.

 

[duaneok66]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

LuckGriffinRichardsonMillerBallMartinPolkJamesBlackmonWrightSanuFloydThat's 12. Others will throw Wilson out there too, but I'm still skeptical about him.There are others I like more than Jeffrey (Jordan White and Bernard Pierce immediately come to mind) but since I expect them to be drafted on day 3 it will be difficult to justify a fantasy pick of either before Jeffrey. I'll be targeting both though.

thanks. I obviously had a few of these off my list.

 

[metoo]

Well, we got to see that Alton is not good fighter. Got tossed for a really weak swing and push.

"Alshon" never threw a punch.

 

[coolnerd]

Well, we got to see that Alton is not good fighter. Got tossed for a really weak swing and push.

"Alshon" never threw a punch.

oops on the name...I thought that whatever to the face was the "punch"

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

So nothing.

Huh?

 

[metoo]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

So nothing.

Huh?

Yes give me something more than you are in the weight room watching him not work out. Lol. He's a big guy and he doesn't look sloppy or soft.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

So nothing.

Huh?

Yes give me something more than you are in the weight room watching him not work out. Lol. He's a big guy and he doesn't look sloppy or soft.

1) http://www.frumpzilla.com/image_gallery/Alshon-Jeffrey-Is-Fat.jpg2) http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=620384

3) His non impressive numbers this year. He had one huge game versus Alabama last year and has lived off it IMO.

 

[metoo]

Well, we got to see that Alton is not good fighter. Got tossed for a really weak swing and push.

"Alshon" never threw a punch.

oops on the name...I thought that whatever to the face was the "punch"

Nebraska guy threw a punch. Alshon did push the guy but never a punch.

 

[metoo]

I know it's early, but I can't name 11 guys I would take ahead of Jeffery.

Jonathan Baldwin part 2, only worse.

Baldwin is a better athlete than Jeffrey. When push comes to shove, he won't separate at the next level. He is too lazy. If you want to draft a guy to be a possession/jump ball guy, sure Jeffrey can do that. But he is far from a superstar in the making.

Says who?

Do WR's who aren't lazy have such a sloppy, soft physique?

So nothing.

Huh?

Yes give me something more than you are in the weight room watching him not work out. Lol. He's a big guy and he doesn't look sloppy or soft.

1) http://www.frumpzilla.com/image_gallery/Alshon-Jeffrey-Is-Fat.jpg2) http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=620384

3) His non impressive numbers this year. He had one huge game versus Alabama last year and has lived off it IMO.

You called the guy lazy but again you have nothing. A picture(meh) and and a thread, going by this I would have passed on Cam last year.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

You called the guy lazy but again you have nothing. A picture(meh) and and a thread, going by this I would have passed on Cam last year.

It's clear that you LOVE Alshon Jeffrey and no matter what anyone says you won't hear it.When I broke down film of Jeffrey preseason, I saw a lazy WR. Big WR that doesn't have good short area quickness, he struggles with separation. Not very good after the catch either. Then when looking at his production this season, despite the hype. It's clear he doesn't put in the time and effort to be a superstar WR at the NFL level.

 

[metoo]

You called the guy lazy but again you have nothing. A picture(meh) and and a thread, going by this I would have passed on Cam last year.

It's clear that you LOVE Alshon Jeffrey and no matter what anyone says you won't hear it.When I broke down film of Jeffrey preseason, I saw a lazy WR. Big WR that doesn't have good short area quickness, he struggles with separation. Not very good after the catch either. Then when looking at his production this season, despite the hype. It's clear he doesn't put in the time and effort to be a superstar WR at the NFL level.

Again you called the guy lazy but you have nothing to back this. Show me where the coaches think/say he isn't doing enough or he's a quitter. You don't think he has the tools to make it on the next level that's fine. To call a guy "lazy" is a too much unless you are there.

 

[Faust]

2012 NFL Draft: Running Back Rankings

The top 2012 running back prospects available for the 2012 NFL Draft in the order in which I believe they will be drafted. * - denotes 2013 prospect ** - denotes 2014 prospect.

This page was last updated December 10, 2011. Follow me @walterfootball for updates.

Excerpts:

1. Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama

Height: 5-11. Weight: 220.

Projected 40 Time: 4.49.

Projected Round (2012): Top 15 Pick.

12/10/11: Richardson is having a massive senior season. He has had a string of dominant performances in conference play. Thus far in 2011, Richardson has 23 total touchdowns (20 rushing, three receiving). He has run for 1,583 yards while averaging six yards per carry. Richardson has also caught 27 passes for 327 yards and three touchdowns. In the biggest test of the season, he fought hard against LSU and had a good game. Richardson ran the ball 23 times for 89 yards and caught five passes for 80 yards. He produced even with the Tigers' talented defense focused on stopping him. Richardson has an elite combination of strength and speed. He dominated Florida, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mississippi State among others.

(more info on the linked page)

2. Lamar Miller**, RB, Miami

Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/10/11: Miller has been a dynamic playmaker thus far in 2011. He has run for 1,272 yards and nine touchdowns rushing while averaging 5.46 yards per carry. Miller has shown the speed to break off long touchdown runs, and is a threat to score with any touch. The redshirt sophomore is one of the most dynamic backs in college football.

Last year as a redshirt freshman, Miller ran for 646 yards (six yards per carry) with six touchdowns. He looks like a future starting running back in the NFL. Miller has playmaking speed and the size to handle a large amount of carries. He could return to Miami in 2012 and 2013 if he wanted.

3. Montee Ball*, RB, Wisconsin

Height: 5-11. Weight: 214.

Projected 40 Time: 4.53.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/10/11: Ball has dominated the competition in 2011. For the season, he has run for 1,759 yards with an average of 6.4 yards per carry. Ball also has 20 receptions for 255 yards and six scores. He leads the nation in touchdowns with 38 (32 rushing, 6 receiving), plus has thrown a 25-yard touchdown pass and a 32-yard pass. Wisconsin has an excellent offensive line that gives him wonderful holes to run through.

Ball runs with excellent vision, balance and pad level. He has an quick burst to hit the hole quickly and does well as a pass receiver. The 5-foot-11, 210-pounder has a mix of power, speed and toughness that should make him a three-down back in the NFL. All season long, Ball has picked up a lot of yards after contact. He also does well in blitz protection for a college back, and coaches will love to see that. His strong season has his stock rising.

(more info on the linked page)

4. Chris Polk*, RB, Washington

Height: 5-11. Weight: 222.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 2.

12/10/11: Polk had a strong season. He runs with good vision, cutting ability and hits the hole quickly. The junior also runs well behind his pads and can power through defenders. Washington has had a subpar offensive line, and if Polk had better blocking, he could have even better numbers. The benefit to that line is the 5-foot-11, 222-pounder is a very patient runner who knows how to put defenders on blockers. Thus far in 2011, Polk has run for 1,341 yards (5.1 average) and 11 touchdowns. He also has caught 29 passes for 324 yards and four scores. Polk ran well against Stanford, one of the best defenses in the PAC-12. He had 144 yards on 15 carries and two touchdowns. Polk's draft stock remains stable, but could rise once the season ends if he has strong workouts. That is, unless Polk decides to return for his senior year.

(more info on the linked page)

5. LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon

Height: 5-9. Weight: 185.

Projected 40 Time: 4.38.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/10/11: To start the season, James struggled against LSU. It was the second straight game in which he was contained by a quality SEC defense. James ran for only 54 yards on 18 carries with a score. After a slow start, he turned it on and tore up some weaker competition. The junior recorded four games this season where he went over 200 yards rushing.

Thus far in 2011, James has averaged 7.4 yards per carry with 1,646 yards and 17 touchdowns, plus he has caught 17 passes for 210 yards and a score. James missed a couple of games in the middle of the year after suffering a dislocated elbow. The elbow injury is a tough blow as there were already durability concerns about his ability to stay healthy in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

6. David Wilson*, RB, Virginia Tech

Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.

Projected 40 Time: 4.59.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/10/11: Wilson has had a breakout junior season and was named the ACC Player of the Year. He has gone over 100 yards rushing nine times. Wilson is averaging 6.1 yards per carry for a total of 1,627 yards rushing and nine touchdowns. He also has caught 21 passes for 126 yards and a score.

Wilson combines good speed with excellent balance, body lean and toughness. He is adept at breaking tackles and getting yards after contact. Wilson also has the ability to make defenders miss in the open field. He looks like he has the potential to be a three-down back in the NFL. Wilson had some issues with ball security as he has seven fumbles on the season.

7. Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

Height: 5-9. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/10/11: Martin put together a quality senior season. He averaged five yards per carry with 1,148 yards rushing and 15 touchdowns. Martin also has contributed 25 receptions for 229 yards and two scores. He is a well-rounded back who has three down potential in the NFL. Boise State missed Martin badly in their one loss against TCU.

(more info on the linked page)

8. Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M

Height: 5-10. Weight: 198.

Projected 40 Time: 4.47.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/10/11: For the majority of the season, Gray split carries with teammate Christine Micheal. After Michael went down with an injury, Gray became the lead back. He has run for 1,045 yards (5.3 average) and 12 touchdowns this season. Gray has also caught 31 passes for 239 yards and three scores. He has a nice skill set but may not have the size to be a lead back in the NFL. Gray could be a good back as part of a running back by committee approach.

(more info on the linked page)

9. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati

Height: 5-10. Weight: 200.

Projected 40 Time: 4.41.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: This season, Pead averaged 5.8 yards per carry with a total of 1,110 yards on the ground and 11 touchdowns. He also caught 36 passes for 304 yards and three touchdowns. Pead had huge games against Tennessee, North Carolina State and Louisville while not playing well against either South Florida or Connecticut. The senior is a good back on third down as he is a willing blocker and quality receiver. Those could be his most appealing characteristics. Pead runs too upright and will need to run with better pad level in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

10. Bernard Pierce*, RB, Temple

Height: 6-0. Weight: 217.

Projected 40 Time: 4.51.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Pierce was putting together a massive junior season before injuries slowed him down in November. He ran for 1,381 yards and 25 touchdowns. Pierce averaged 5.6 yards per carry and beat up on some weaker competition. It was disappointing for his draft stock to see him produce only 50 yards against his best opponent, Penn State. He also had a concussion and that can be a scary injury for talent evaluators.

(more info on the linked page)

11. Christine Michael*, RB, Texas A&M

Height: 5-11. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.48.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Before going down with a knee injury, Michael had outshined teammate Cyrus Gray this season. Michael led Texas A&M in rushing prior to the injury. For the season, he averaged six yards per carry with 899 yards and eight touchdowns. Michael had a massive game of 230 yards rushing and three touchdowns against Arkansas. He is a quick and powerful runner who gets good yards after contact. Michael could stay in school for the 2012 season in order to get healthy, plus be the lead back for the Aggies' next season.

(more info on the linked page)

12. Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State

Height: 5-11. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.60.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Ballard started out the season very strong, but he ended up with only one 100-yard rushing game against a conference opponent. Ballard has put together 1,009 yards and five touchdowns for an average of 5.6 yards per carry. Teams sold out to stop him and make Mississippi State beat them through the air. He has a nice combination of size and speed. Ballard could be a good sleeper running back on the third day of the draft.

(more info on the linked page)

13. Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee

Height: 5-11. Weight: 213.

Projected 40 Time: 4.50.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Poole was banged up this season and battled a hamstring injury. Thus, he did not produce the numbers that many were expecting. Poole totaled 693 yards and five touchdowns.

(more info on the linked page)

14. Daniel Herron, RB, Ohio State

Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.

Projected 40 Time: 4.59.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Herron was suspended for six games for his part in the Ohio State scandal. He played well in his first three outings before trailing off late in the season. In six contests, Herron has run for 596 yards with three touchdowns.

(more info on the linked page)

Additional RB prospects on the linked page

 

[BeTheMatch]

So there is no way he is a first round (NFL) pick??

Anything's possible as long as Jacksonville has a first-rounder.

 

[Faust]

2012 NFL Draft: Wide Receiver Rankings

The top 2012 wide receiver prospects available for the 2012 NFL Draft in the order in which I believe they will be drafted. * - denotes 2013 prospect. ** - denotes 2014 prospect.

This page was last updated December 12, 2011. Follow me @walterfootball for updates.

By Charlie Campbell.

Excerpts:

1. Justin Blackmon*, WR, Oklahoma State

Height: 6-1. Weight: 208.

Projected 40 Time: 4.48.

Projected Round (2012): Top 10 Pick.

12/12/11: Blackmon was a consistent source of big plays this season for the Cowboys. He was a mismatch all year due to his size, speed and physicality. Blackmon had huge games against Baylor, Texas A&M and Kansas State. He required constant double coverage, and despite the extra attention, remained productive. His speed and route-running have him ready to make an immediate impact at the next level.

Against Tulsa, Blackmon had his streak of 100+-yard receiving games broken. After 14 straight games, he was held to 57 yards on seven receptions with one touchdown. For the 2011 season, Blackmon has 113 receptions for 1,336 yards and 15 touchdowns.

(more info on the linked page)

2. Alshon Jeffery*, WR, South Carolina

Height: 6-4. Weight: 233.

Projected 40 Time: 4.50.

Projected Round (2012): Top 20 Pick.

12/12/11: All season, South Carolina was awful at getting the most out of one of their most dangerous weapons. Jeffery's production was held back by poor quarterback play, but he still commanded a lot of extra coverage. At the same time, Jeffery struggled to get separation from cornerbacks, and they were able to blanket him consistently. For the NFL, Jeffery should drop some weight to get faster. If he declares for the draft, his 40-time at the Scouting Combine could have a big impact on draft rank.

For the season, Jeffery has 45 receptions for 614 yards and seven touchdowns. He also was a quality blocker for South Carolina. Jeffery broke his hand, but still caught a touchdown pass against Clemson in the season finale.

(more info on the linked page)

3. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame

Height: 6-3. Weight: 218.

Projected 40 Time: 4.51.

Projected Round (2012): Top 20 Pick.

12/12/11: Throughout the season, Floyd displayed his dynamic skill set that makes him a mismatch against defenses. The senior was Notre Dame's most consistent weapon in 2011 and commanded a lot of bracket coverage. For the season, he caught 95 passes for 1,106 yards and eight touchdowns.

Floyd has excellent size, speed, quickness and body control. He looks like true No.1 receiver in the NFL. Making Floyd's draft stock harder to estimate are the off-the-field issues from previous years. It is difficult to determine right now how heavily NFL teams will hold those run-ins against him.

(more info on the linked page)

4. Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina

Height: 6-4. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.55.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/12/11: In 2011, Jones was one of the most underrated offensive threats in college football. He is a big, fast playmaker who would have been more productive if North Carolina gave him more opportunities to catch passes. Jones is a tough receiver to bring down after the catch and uses his size well to make catches while getting physical with defenders.

In the NFL, Jones looks like he can produce as a possession receiver and have the ability to stretch a defense with plays downfield. In 2011, Jones had 79 receptions for 1,119 yards and 11 touchdowns. If he played at Oklahoma, USC, Arizona, Oklahoma State or Stanford, Jones would have massive production.

(more info on the linked page)

5. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor

Height: 5-10. Weight: 190.

Projected 40 Time: 4.39.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/12/11: Wright was an unstoppable receiver this season in the Big XII. The top target for quarterback Robert Griffin III, Wright has burned secondaries with big plays downfield all year. His blazing speed is hard for defensive backs to contain, and Wright has good hands with the ability to make difficult catches along the sideline. This season, he has caught 101 passes for 1,572 yards and 13 touchdowns.

Helping Wright's draft stock is a lot of teams having regrets about passing on Mike Wallace in the 2009 draft. Wallace fell to late in the third round after a number of teams took bigger and slower receivers over him. Wright has moved up draft boards steadily this season and looks like an early second-round pick with the potential to sneak into the top 32.

(more info on the linked page)

6. Mohamed Sanu*, WR, Rutgers

Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.50.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/12/11: Sanu has enjoyed a massive season and has showed the capacity to be a No.1 receiver in the NFL. He has recorded 109 catches for 1,144 yards and seven touchdowns. Against North Carolina, Sanu had a phenomenal game and carried the Rutgers' offense. He finished the game with 13 receptions for 119 yards and one touchdown. Sanu made a highlight-reel, one-handed touchdown catch. He has did a very good job of route-running throughout the season. This year, Sanu has stayed healthy and displayed good speed to go along with his ideal size. He makes tough catches and can get open in all levels of the field.

(more info on the linked page)

7. Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa

Height: 6-4. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.58.

Projected Round (2012): 2.

12/12/11: McNutt is an underrated prospect and could be a steal. In 2011, he has made 78 catches for 1,269 yards and 12 touchdowns. McNutt has produced big plays in all levels of the defense and beaten secondaries with a combination of size and quickness. The only team that truly limited him was Nebraska. McNutt couldn't get separation from Nebraska cornerback Alfonzo Dennard. If McNutt had gotten the better of Dennard, then McNutt could be a first-round pick.

The 6-foot-4, 215-pounder could have even more production if he played in a better passing offense. McNutt has deceptive speed, good hands and runs good routes. He is capable of making big plays downfield with his speed or his size.

(more info on the linked page)

8. Tommy Streeter*, WR, Miami

Height: 6-5. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.52.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/12/11: In his first season of playing time, the junior Streeter was a source of big plays. He is a tall, lanky wide receiver who has the speed to stretch the field. In 2011, Streeter caught 46 passes for 811 yards and eight touchdowns. He is an excellent red-zone weapon due to his height and leaping ability. Streeter is raw and needs a lot of work as a route-runner. His draft stock probably could have been enhanced if he returned to Miami for his senior season before going pro, but Streeter declared and hired an agent, so there is no turning back.

9. Rueben Randle*, WR, LSU

Height: 6-4. Weight: 207.

Projected 40 Time: 4.51.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/12/11: Randle has played well for LSU this season and was their top receiving target. He did not get a huge amount of opportunities, but generally produced when thrown the ball. Randle is a very good red-zone weapon who uses his size and quickness to produce points. For the season, he has 50 receptions for 904 yards and eight touchdowns.

Hurting Randle's draft stock was being shutdown by Alabama and their NFL-talent-laden secondary. He had two catches for 19 yards in that game. If Randle excels in the rematch, he could improve his stock significantly. Randle excels at running slant routes in the short to intermediate part of the field, and that should have a big appeal to teams that run the West Coast offense.

(more info on the linked page)

10. Nick Toon, WR, Wisconsin

Height: 6-3. Weight: 217.

Projected 40 Time: 4.60.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/12/11: Toon has flashed at times, but Wiscosin simply hasn't throw him the ball that much, as they feature a ground attack. In 2011, he caught 55 passes for 822 yards and nine touchdowns. Toon would have better production if he played on a team that threw the ball more. He has nice size, runs good routes, and has good hands. Toon also blocks extremely well. The wide out did a nice job of developing some quick chemistry with new quarterback Russell Wilson. Toon does not have elite speed. That and durability seem to be the missing aspects from his game.

(more info on the linked page)

11. Jordan White, WR, Western Michigan

Height: 6-0. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.48.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/12/11: White was college football's most productive receiver this year. He led the nation in receptions and yards while finishing second in receiving touchdowns. White caught 127 passes for 1,646 yards with 16 touchdowns. He plays bigger than his listed size, with the speed to get downfield and produce long touchdowns. White broke out last season with 94 receptions for 1,378 yards and 10 touchdowns. The wide out also has some punt-return skills. He is a sleeper who could be a surprise at the next level. If White excels at the Senior Bowl and in the lead up to the draft, he could go early on the second day.

12. T.Y. Hilton, WR/KR, Florida International

Height: 5-10. Weight: 183.

Projected 40 Time: 4.41.

Projected Round (2012): 3.

12/12/11: Speedy and agile, Hilton put together a strong senior season. His straight-line speed is a mismatch for defenses and special teams units. Hilton was on fire against Louisville. He caught seven passes for 201 yards with two touchdowns. One of those scores was an 83-yard touchdown strike. For the season, Hilton has 64 receptions for 950 yards and seven touchdowns. Also, he has returned 16 kicks for 512 yards this season with eight punts returned for 186 yards and a touchdown. Hilton has put together a season to show that he should be a second-day pick in the draft.

(more info on the linked page)

13. Ryan Broyles, WR/PR, Oklahoma

Height: 5-11. Weight: 185.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 3.

12/12/11: Broyles' stock is hard to estimate after he tore an ACL to end his season on Nov. 5 against Texas A&M. For the year, he had 83 receptions for 1,157 yards and 10 touchdowns. Broyles also returned 19 punts for 196 yards. He was very consistent this season before the injury. Broyles displayed great hands, runs good routes, toughness and intelligence. In his collegiate career, the senior wide out caught 349 passes for 4,586 yards and 45 touchdowns. He also returned a total of 108 punts for 1,194 yards (11.1 average) and two scores.

Even with Broyles' massive production, he could be an underrated playerm, especially coming off the injury. Broyles should be fine for his rookie season, but he may not be able to work out much prior to the draft. In the NFL, Broyles projects to being a strong slot receiver who has the ability to make some plays downfield.

(more info on the linked page)

14. Ryan Swope*, WR, Texas A&M

Height: 6-1. Weight: 206.

Projected 40 Time: 4.55.

Projected Round (2012): 3.

12/12/11: Swope was the No.1 receiver for Ryan Tannehill and produced a superb season. Swope caught 81 passes for 1,102 yards and 11 touchdowns. He has decent size, but also has underrated speed, making him extremely swift in and out of his breaks. His sudden quickness takes defenses by surprise. Swope is very dangerous after he makes a catch and is capable of taking short passes downfield for big gains.

Last year, Swope caught 72 passes for 825 yards and four touchdowns. As a freshman, he had 19 receptions for 172 yards and a score.

15. Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M

Height: 6-3. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.60.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/12/11: It was a very disappointing season for Fuller. He has dealt with numerous injuries, but also has had some bad performances with dropped passes and mental mistakes. Fuller has been passed by teammate Ryan Swope as the Aggies' go-to receiver. Fuller's lack of speed and explosion are definitely concerns for the next level. In 2011, he has 63 catches for 709 yards and five touchdowns. Fuller does not project to be a true No. 1 receiver in the NFL, but he has starting potential.

(more info on the linked page)

16. A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois

Height: 6-1. Weight: 190.

Projected 40 Time: 4.49.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/12/11: Jenkins was one of the most productive wide receivers in college football this season. He produced some big plays downfield. Jenkins has quality size with good speed. In 2011, he has 84 receptions for 1,196 yards and seven touchdowns. His production is up dramatically from last year when he had 56 receptions for 746 yards and seven scores. Jenkins has moved into the mid-rounds with his massive season.

17. Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas

Height: 5-11. Weight: 190.

Projected 40 Time: 4.57.

Projected Round (2012): 3-5.

12/12/11: This season, Adams was part of a dangerous receiving corps. He caught 49 balls for 630 yards and three touchdowns. The senior projects to being a slot receiver in the NFL.

Last year, Adams caught 50 passes for 813 yards and six scores. As a sophomore in 2009, he had 29 receptions for 568 yards and seven touchdowns.

18. Juron Criner, WR, Arizona

Height: 6-4. Weight: 210.

Projected 40 Time: 4.62.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/12/11: Criner was productive this season with 75 receptions for 956 yards and 11 touchdowns. He the most reliable and consistent weapon for quarterback Nick Foles. An appendectomy kept Criner out against Oklahoma State, and Arizona really missed him. He excels at jump balls downfield. Criner looks like a potential possession receiver in the NFL who could be a good redzone weapon. He reportedly has some off-the-field concerns.

(more info on the linked page)

Additional WR prospects listed in the linked page

 

[Dawg Pound 69]

2012 NFL Draft: Running Back Rankings

The top 2012 running back prospects available for the 2012 NFL Draft in the order in which I believe they will be drafted. * - denotes 2013 prospect ** - denotes 2014 prospect.

This page was last updated December 10, 2011. Follow me @walterfootball for updates.

Excerpts:

1. Trent Richardson*, RB, Alabama

Height: 5-11. Weight: 220.

Projected 40 Time: 4.49.

Projected Round (2012): Top 15 Pick.

12/10/11: Richardson is having a massive senior season. He has had a string of dominant performances in conference play. Thus far in 2011, Richardson has 23 total touchdowns (20 rushing, three receiving). He has run for 1,583 yards while averaging six yards per carry. Richardson has also caught 27 passes for 327 yards and three touchdowns. In the biggest test of the season, he fought hard against LSU and had a good game. Richardson ran the ball 23 times for 89 yards and caught five passes for 80 yards. He produced even with the Tigers' talented defense focused on stopping him. Richardson has an elite combination of strength and speed. He dominated Florida, Arkansas, Ole Miss and Mississippi State among others.

(more info on the linked page)

2. Lamar Miller**, RB, Miami

Height: 5-11. Weight: 212.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/10/11: Miller has been a dynamic playmaker thus far in 2011. He has run for 1,272 yards and nine touchdowns rushing while averaging 5.46 yards per carry. Miller has shown the speed to break off long touchdown runs, and is a threat to score with any touch. The redshirt sophomore is one of the most dynamic backs in college football.

Last year as a redshirt freshman, Miller ran for 646 yards (six yards per carry) with six touchdowns. He looks like a future starting running back in the NFL. Miller has playmaking speed and the size to handle a large amount of carries. He could return to Miami in 2012 and 2013 if he wanted.

3. Montee Ball*, RB, Wisconsin

Height: 5-11. Weight: 214.

Projected 40 Time: 4.53.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/10/11: Ball has dominated the competition in 2011. For the season, he has run for 1,759 yards with an average of 6.4 yards per carry. Ball also has 20 receptions for 255 yards and six scores. He leads the nation in touchdowns with 38 (32 rushing, 6 receiving), plus has thrown a 25-yard touchdown pass and a 32-yard pass. Wisconsin has an excellent offensive line that gives him wonderful holes to run through.

Ball runs with excellent vision, balance and pad level. He has an quick burst to hit the hole quickly and does well as a pass receiver. The 5-foot-11, 210-pounder has a mix of power, speed and toughness that should make him a three-down back in the NFL. All season long, Ball has picked up a lot of yards after contact. He also does well in blitz protection for a college back, and coaches will love to see that. His strong season has his stock rising.

(more info on the linked page)

4. Chris Polk*, RB, Washington

Height: 5-11. Weight: 222.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 2.

12/10/11: Polk had a strong season. He runs with good vision, cutting ability and hits the hole quickly. The junior also runs well behind his pads and can power through defenders. Washington has had a subpar offensive line, and if Polk had better blocking, he could have even better numbers. The benefit to that line is the 5-foot-11, 222-pounder is a very patient runner who knows how to put defenders on blockers. Thus far in 2011, Polk has run for 1,341 yards (5.1 average) and 11 touchdowns. He also has caught 29 passes for 324 yards and four scores. Polk ran well against Stanford, one of the best defenses in the PAC-12. He had 144 yards on 15 carries and two touchdowns. Polk's draft stock remains stable, but could rise once the season ends if he has strong workouts. That is, unless Polk decides to return for his senior year.

(more info on the linked page)

5. LaMichael James*, RB, Oregon

Height: 5-9. Weight: 185.

Projected 40 Time: 4.38.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/10/11: To start the season, James struggled against LSU. It was the second straight game in which he was contained by a quality SEC defense. James ran for only 54 yards on 18 carries with a score. After a slow start, he turned it on and tore up some weaker competition. The junior recorded four games this season where he went over 200 yards rushing.

Thus far in 2011, James has averaged 7.4 yards per carry with 1,646 yards and 17 touchdowns, plus he has caught 17 passes for 210 yards and a score. James missed a couple of games in the middle of the year after suffering a dislocated elbow. The elbow injury is a tough blow as there were already durability concerns about his ability to stay healthy in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

6. David Wilson*, RB, Virginia Tech

Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.

Projected 40 Time: 4.59.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/10/11: Wilson has had a breakout junior season and was named the ACC Player of the Year. He has gone over 100 yards rushing nine times. Wilson is averaging 6.1 yards per carry for a total of 1,627 yards rushing and nine touchdowns. He also has caught 21 passes for 126 yards and a score.

Wilson combines good speed with excellent balance, body lean and toughness. He is adept at breaking tackles and getting yards after contact. Wilson also has the ability to make defenders miss in the open field. He looks like he has the potential to be a three-down back in the NFL. Wilson had some issues with ball security as he has seven fumbles on the season.

7. Doug Martin, RB, Boise State

Height: 5-9. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.46.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/10/11: Martin put together a quality senior season. He averaged five yards per carry with 1,148 yards rushing and 15 touchdowns. Martin also has contributed 25 receptions for 229 yards and two scores. He is a well-rounded back who has three down potential in the NFL. Boise State missed Martin badly in their one loss against TCU.

(more info on the linked page)

8. Cyrus Gray, RB, Texas A&M

Height: 5-10. Weight: 198.

Projected 40 Time: 4.47.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/10/11: For the majority of the season, Gray split carries with teammate Christine Micheal. After Michael went down with an injury, Gray became the lead back. He has run for 1,045 yards (5.3 average) and 12 touchdowns this season. Gray has also caught 31 passes for 239 yards and three scores. He has a nice skill set but may not have the size to be a lead back in the NFL. Gray could be a good back as part of a running back by committee approach.

(more info on the linked page)

9. Isaiah Pead, RB, Cincinnati

Height: 5-10. Weight: 200.

Projected 40 Time: 4.41.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: This season, Pead averaged 5.8 yards per carry with a total of 1,110 yards on the ground and 11 touchdowns. He also caught 36 passes for 304 yards and three touchdowns. Pead had huge games against Tennessee, North Carolina State and Louisville while not playing well against either South Florida or Connecticut. The senior is a good back on third down as he is a willing blocker and quality receiver. Those could be his most appealing characteristics. Pead runs too upright and will need to run with better pad level in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

10. Bernard Pierce*, RB, Temple

Height: 6-0. Weight: 217.

Projected 40 Time: 4.51.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Pierce was putting together a massive junior season before injuries slowed him down in November. He ran for 1,381 yards and 25 touchdowns. Pierce averaged 5.6 yards per carry and beat up on some weaker competition. It was disappointing for his draft stock to see him produce only 50 yards against his best opponent, Penn State. He also had a concussion and that can be a scary injury for talent evaluators.

(more info on the linked page)

11. Christine Michael*, RB, Texas A&M

Height: 5-11. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.48.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Before going down with a knee injury, Michael had outshined teammate Cyrus Gray this season. Michael led Texas A&M in rushing prior to the injury. For the season, he averaged six yards per carry with 899 yards and eight touchdowns. Michael had a massive game of 230 yards rushing and three touchdowns against Arkansas. He is a quick and powerful runner who gets good yards after contact. Michael could stay in school for the 2012 season in order to get healthy, plus be the lead back for the Aggies' next season.

(more info on the linked page)

12. Vick Ballard, RB, Mississippi State

Height: 5-11. Weight: 215.

Projected 40 Time: 4.60.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Ballard started out the season very strong, but he ended up with only one 100-yard rushing game against a conference opponent. Ballard has put together 1,009 yards and five touchdowns for an average of 5.6 yards per carry. Teams sold out to stop him and make Mississippi State beat them through the air. He has a nice combination of size and speed. Ballard could be a good sleeper running back on the third day of the draft.

(more info on the linked page)

13. Tauren Poole, RB, Tennessee

Height: 5-11. Weight: 213.

Projected 40 Time: 4.50.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Poole was banged up this season and battled a hamstring injury. Thus, he did not produce the numbers that many were expecting. Poole totaled 693 yards and five touchdowns.

(more info on the linked page)

14. Daniel Herron, RB, Ohio State

Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.

Projected 40 Time: 4.59.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/10/11: Herron was suspended for six games for his part in the Ohio State scandal. He played well in his first three outings before trailing off late in the season. In six contests, Herron has run for 596 yards with three touchdowns.

(more info on the linked page)

Additional RB prospects on the linked page

I have seen Wilson's speed estimated at between 4.29 and 4.33, so this 4.59 seems crazy.

 

[Faust]

2012 NFL Draft: Tight End Rankings

The top 2012 tight end prospects available for the 2012 NFL Draft in the order in which I believe they will be drafted. * - denotes 2013 prospect.

This page was last updated December 14, 2011. Follow me @walterfootball for updates.

By Charlie Campbell.

Excerpts:

1. Dwayne Allen*, TE, Clemson

Height: 6-4. Weight: 255.

Projected 40 Time: 4.65.

Projected Round (2012): 1-2.

12/14/11: Allen has had an excellent season. He has been a red zone force for Clemson, and was capable of doing more if they had simply targeted him more in the passing game. Entering the Bowl game against West Virginia, Allen has caught 48 receptions for 577 yards and eight scores. He has also been a good run blocker for the Tigers. Allen is a dangerous receiver. He beats defensive backs with surprising quickness and good route-running. Allen is fabulous at going up and getting high passes over defenders. In the NFL, he should be a complete tight end who is a red zone weapon, a third-down target and a good blocker in the ground game.

Former teammate and current Tampa Bay Buccaneers defensive end Da'Quan Bowers told WalterFootball.com in a Monday Morning Draft column that Allen made it a point to go against Bowers in practice to improve his blocking, and that the two pushed each other to become better football players. When that comes out in the interview process, coaches will love it, and that could push Allen's stock up higher. Being the top tight end could cause a needy team to reach for him late in the first.

(more info on the linked page)

2. Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford

Height: 6-6. Weight: 248.

Projected 40 Time: 4.79.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/14/11: Fleener has been a dangerous receiver for quarterback Andrew Luck. Thus far in 2011, he has 32 receptions for 648 yards and 10 touchdowns. Fleener runs good routes and is adept at exploiting the deep middle of the field on seam routes. He should be a good fit in many pro offenses. Fleener is a technically sound blocker and has been well coached at Stanford, but he should add some more bulk to help him as a blocker in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

3. Tyler Eifert*, TE, Notre Dame

Height: 6-6. Weight: 242.

Projected 40 Time: 4.70.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/14/11: Eifert has been consistent and effective for Notre Dame this season. He has 57 receptions for 713 yards and five touchdowns. With the weak class of tight ends, it will be interesting to see if Eifert declares early for the NFL. He is a dangerous receiver who gets downfield quickly and gets separation through good route-running. Eifert is a good athlete with a high ceiling.

(more info on the linked page)

4. Orson Charles*, TE, Georgia

Height: 6-3. Weight: 241.

Projected 40 Time: 4.66.

Projected Round (2012): 2-3.

12/14/11: Charles had a good regular season as a receiver with 44 receptions for 572 yards and five touchdowns. There is no doubt that he is extremely fast and can produce big catches downfield. Charles is a mismatch for safeties and linebackers.

The junior had a big game to open the season against Boise State with six receptions for 109 yards and a touchdown. Even though Charles was held without a catch, he showed some good blocking against South Carolina. Charles would probably be better off returning for his senior season and improving. He still needs to add more weight and become a better blocker. His blocking needs to improve for him to be a three-down player in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

5. David Paulson, TE, Oregon

Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.

Projected 40 Time: 4.71.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/14/11: Paulson has been very quiet this season. He has 30 receptions for 428 yards and six touchdowns. Paulson could be more productive, but Oregon does not throw many passes his direction. He is a quality redzone weapon who can surprise defenses with his speed and athleticism. Paulson has some blocking potential. He is a sleeper prospect who could surprise on the next level.

(more info on the linked page)

6. Evan Rodriguez, TE, Temple

Height: 6-3. Weight: 250.

Projected 40 Time: 4.70.

Projected Round (2012): 3-4.

12/14/11: Rodriguez was Temple's leading receiver with 33 receptions for 427 yards and two touchdowns. He was reasonably consistent this season. Rodriguez is a fluid receiver who picks up yards after the catch. He was used in the same manner that Florida used tight end Aaron Herndandez under former Gators assistant Steve Addazio. Rodriguez looked good in that role as he is a quality blocker and good athlete as a receiver

(more info on the linked page)

7. George Bryan, TE, N.C. State

Height: 6-5. Weight: 265.

Projected 40 Time: 4.77.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/14/11: Bryan had 30 receptions for 302 yards and four touchdowns in the regular season. He has been a good blocker this year and could be one of the better blocking tight ends in this draft class.

(more info on the linked page)

8. Michael Egnew, TE, Missouri

Height: 6-6. Weight: 240.

Projected 40 Time: 4.75.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/14/11: Egnew had a disappointing season. His production dropped off dramatically, and it didn't look like he has the speed to be a receiving tight end in the NFL. Egnew had 47 receptions for 484 yards and three touchdowns. He had a big game against Iowa State with six receptions for 105 yards and a score. Egnew caught 12 passes for 69 yards against Baylor. Otherwise, he was quiet this season.

(more info on the linked page)

9. Drake Dunsmore, TE, Northwestern

Height: 6-3. Weight: 235.

Projected 40 Time: 4.68.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/14/11: Dunsmore has been reliable for Northwestern as a pass receiver. He has 43 receptions for 509 yards and six touchdowns in 2011. Dunsmore has flashed his receiving skills and looks like an improved blocker. He had seven receptions for 112 yards and four touchdowns against Indiana. Dunsmore was a first-team All-Big Ten selection. If Dunsmore could add some more weight that would help his draft status. He is a sleeper prospect who could surprise in the NFL.

(more info on the linked page)

10. Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse

Height: 6-4. Weight: 249.

Projected 40 Time: 4.71.

Projected Round (2012): 4-5.

12/14/11: Provo had 51 catches for 537 yards and seven scores this season and was an All-Big East selection. He is a quality receiving threat who runs good routes and has good hands. Provo also received coaching from an experienced NFL tight ends coach in Bob Casullo.

Additional TE prospects on the linked page

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

You called the guy lazy but again you have nothing. A picture(meh) and and a thread, going by this I would have passed on Cam last year.

It's clear that you LOVE Alshon Jeffrey and no matter what anyone says you won't hear it.When I broke down film of Jeffrey preseason, I saw a lazy WR. Big WR that doesn't have good short area quickness, he struggles with separation. Not very good after the catch either. Then when looking at his production this season, despite the hype. It's clear he doesn't put in the time and effort to be a superstar WR at the NFL level.

Again you called the guy lazy but you have nothing to back this. Show me where the coaches think/say he isn't doing enough or he's a quitter. You don't think he has the tools to make it on the next level that's fine. To call a guy "lazy" is a too much unless you are there.

Sounds like semantics to me

 

[Xue]

Any respectable draftnik/scout should have Brian Quick in their top 10 WR. I've seen him ranked as high as 5 in some rankings.

Same goes for Robert Turbin. Don't know why he's not getting love compared to scat backs like Pead.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

You called the guy lazy but again you have nothing. A picture(meh) and and a thread, going by this I would have passed on Cam last year.

It's clear that you LOVE Alshon Jeffrey and no matter what anyone says you won't hear it.When I broke down film of Jeffrey preseason, I saw a lazy WR. Big WR that doesn't have good short area quickness, he struggles with separation. Not very good after the catch either. Then when looking at his production this season, despite the hype. It's clear he doesn't put in the time and effort to be a superstar WR at the NFL level.

Again you called the guy lazy but you have nothing to back this. Show me where the coaches think/say he isn't doing enough or he's a quitter. You don't think he has the tools to make it on the next level that's fine. To call a guy "lazy" is a too much unless you are there.

I wouldn't draft Jeffrey unless he fell to the 2nd round of a dynasty rookie draft, which is very possible.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Any respectable draftnik/scout should have Brian Quick in their top 10 WR. I've seen him ranked as high as 5 in some rankings.Same goes for Robert Turbin. Don't know why he's not getting love compared to scat backs like Pead.

Turbin looks like a beast, however Pead is a good RB too.

 

[MAC_32]

Any respectable draftnik/scout should have Brian Quick in their top 10 WR. I've seen him ranked as high as 5 in some rankings.Same goes for Robert Turbin. Don't know why he's not getting love compared to scat backs like Pead.

Neither Turbin nor Pead impress me much. Pead's not quick enough outside and not tough enough between the tackles. I like his patience, but if the hole's not there he seems to just run into the line and hope for the best. I can't find one quality I like about Turbin except that he's big and fast. His skills are limited, there's a place in the league for big and fast RB's but I don't see him as a top 7 RB in this class. Just isn't anything about his game that makes you go 'you he's good.'Anxious to watch Quick over the next 6 weeks as I haven't seen anything on him, the webz love him though.

 

[Monty Burns]

Faust: THANKS for those links....

 

[Xue]

Turbin looks like a beast, however Pead is a good RB too.

I like Pead, but he's a role player at the next level. His upside is Reggie Bush/Jahvid Best. But he's probably another Baron Batch.

 

[Xue]

Any respectable draftnik/scout should have Brian Quick in their top 10 WR. I've seen him ranked as high as 5 in some rankings.Same goes for Robert Turbin. Don't know why he's not getting love compared to scat backs like Pead.

Neither Turbin nor Pead impress me much. Pead's not quick enough outside and not tough enough between the tackles. I like his patience, but if the hole's not there he seems to just run into the line and hope for the best. I can't find one quality I like about Turbin except that he's big and fast. His skills are limited, there's a place in the league for big and fast RB's but I don't see him as a top 7 RB in this class. Just isn't anything about his game that makes you go 'you he's good.'Anxious to watch Quick over the next 6 weeks as I haven't seen anything on him, the webz love him though.

Look at Turbin video from 2009. He doesn't look the same after torn ACL. still high on him though.

 

[MAC_32]

Any respectable draftnik/scout should have Brian Quick in their top 10 WR. I've seen him ranked as high as 5 in some rankings.Same goes for Robert Turbin. Don't know why he's not getting love compared to scat backs like Pead.

Neither Turbin nor Pead impress me much. Pead's not quick enough outside and not tough enough between the tackles. I like his patience, but if the hole's not there he seems to just run into the line and hope for the best. I can't find one quality I like about Turbin except that he's big and fast. His skills are limited, there's a place in the league for big and fast RB's but I don't see him as a top 7 RB in this class. Just isn't anything about his game that makes you go 'you he's good.'Anxious to watch Quick over the next 6 weeks as I haven't seen anything on him, the webz love him though.

Look at Turbin video from 2009. He doesn't look the same after torn ACL. still high on him though.

Have read that from others too. He has an even more important off season than others because he needs to show that he can get back to that level. I HATE watching youtube video though, for a number of different reasons. The only game I saw of him before he tore up his knee was Boise and he didn't look like anything special. Still wrote him down as a 'watch' in 2010 but obviously didn't because of the injury.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Blackmon is just ridiculous. Man amongst boys out there. A little too demonstrative though.

 

[Rodeojones]

Blackmon is just ridiculous. Man amongst boys out there. A little too demonstrative though.

WR's can be that way...

 

[BeTheMatch]

Blackmon is just ridiculous. Man amongst boys out there. A little too demonstrative though.

He is THE team leader. I'd be willing to bet he wasn't saying "give me the ball," but more like trying to get the whole team going.

 

[loose circuits]

Turbin looks like a beast, however Pead is a good RB too.

I like Pead, but he's a role player at the next level. His upside is Reggie Bush/Jahvid Best. But he's probably another Baron Batch.

Wasn't Batch tearing it up and earning a role on the Steelers before he was injured?

 

[Xue]

Wasn't Batch tearing it up and earning a role on the Steelers before he was injured?

Yea Batch was set to be the 3rd down back. I like him as a sleeper next year. But, he's coming back from a torn ACL. Pead will have value if he lands in a good offense. He does a lot of running out of the shotgun.

 

[Steed]

Blackmon just made it official. He's off for the NFL.

 

[BigTex]

Blackmon is entering the draft!!!!!!!