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[Dynasty] 2017 Draft Prospects (3 Viewers)

Stanford offensive coordinator Mike Bloomgren specifically mentioned the Panthers as a scheme fit for RB Christian McCaffrey because of their trips personnel.

The Panthers, picking No. 8, have been heavily linked to McCaffrey over the past month-plus. Bloomgren, a former NFL assistant, said McCaffrey will fit in the modern NFL because "teams want to run 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end) and then split Christian out wide and run 3x1 trips (three receivers stacked on one side of the field)." He further deemed some of criticisms McCaffrey has received "ridiculous," emphatically stating that McCaffrey excels between the tackles, is a good pass protector and will be a three-down back in the NFL. "It’s like, ‘Have you ever seen us play?’ We run power," Bloomgren said. We couldn't have said it any better.

 
 
Source: The Ringers 
Apr 21 - 12:42 PM
 
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports that Browns HC Hue Jackson and his staff are "all-in" on Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett at No. 1, but the front office is leaning towards UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky and owner Jimmy Haslam "badly wants a QB."

Like the opening of baseball and the return of warm weather, April brings its annual Cleveland power struggle related to the NFL Draft. A couple years back, that yearly ritual reportedly led to Haslam leading the charge to trade up to draft Johnny Manziel. We think Garrett will ultimately be the No. 1 pick. Recent reports had Cleveland exploring trade possibilities to move from No. 12 back into the top-10 with an eye on Trubisky, though, so perhaps both divisions within the Cleveland organization will exit Day 1 happy.

 
 
Source: Jason La Canfora 
Apr 21 - 12:57 PM
 
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports that Browns HC Hue Jackson and his staff are "all-in" on Texas A&M DE Myles Garrett at No. 1, but the front office is leaning towards UNC QB Mitchell Trubisky and owner Jimmy Haslam "badly wants a QB."

Like the opening of baseball and the return of warm weather, April brings its annual Cleveland power struggle related to the NFL Draft. A couple years back, that yearly ritual reportedly led to Haslam leading the charge to trade up to draft Johnny Manziel. We think Garrett will ultimately be the No. 1 pick. Recent reports had Cleveland exploring trade possibilities to move from No. 12 back into the top-10 with an eye on Trubisky, though, so perhaps both divisions within the Cleveland organization will exit Day 1 happy.
Hue Jackson should just walk into Haslam's office, drop Johnny Manziel's contract on his desk, give him the finger, then walk out.

 
To me this draft seems way off the mark for the Steelers:

Reuter: 1 Josh Jones S, 2 Carl Lawson, 3 Tanoh Kpassagnon, 3 Josh Reynolds, 4 Rasul Douglas, 5 Ejuan Price, 6 Chris Carson RB, 7 Anthony Walker ILB

I like the 2nd and 4th picks, Lawson and Reynolds, but not a fan of the others.

Better based on his draft: 1 Jabrill Peppers S/CB, 2 Adam Shaheen TE, 3 Derek Rivers OLB (assume he falls 1 more spot), 3 Desmond King CB/S, 4 Brad Kaaya QB, 5 Jamaal Williams RB, 6 Joe Mathis OLB, 7 Amba Etta-Tawo.

1, a jack of all trades, a weapon in the secondary who can funnel plays back into the middle of the line as an in the box defender. 2, very solid TE prospect, raw. 3a, talented pass rusher who falls due to small school stigma. 3b, another piece in the secondary to shore things up, great value. 4, needed QB depth, once thought of as a possible 1st overall pick. 5, very solid RB, "could be this year's jordan howard" (a BS phrase said multiple times by analysts, he's a solid RB backup).  6, an excellent pass rusher with issues staying healthy. 7, a solid WR who struggled in MD, but as a MD fan I know their QB play has been crap, he played well with Syracuse and is just getting better.

 
NFL Network's Mike Mayock predicts that Virginia Tech QB Jerod Evans will not get drafted.

The 6-foot-4, 235-pound Evans led Virginia Tech to the ACC championship game in his first season as starter in 2016 and then stunned the NFL draft community by declaring for the pros in January with one season of eligibility remaining. He's got a great frame and good athleticism working in his favor, along with a solid arm, but is extremely raw and struggles with accuracy and decision making.

 
 
Source: Chase Goodbread on Twitter 
Apr 21 - 1:58 PM
 
One scout told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that NC State RB Matthew Dayes is "more of a specialty guy."

"He’s a one-cut speed guy. He tries to run hard but he doesn’t have any (expletive) behind him. He does have some receiving skills," said the scout. Another evaluator told the Journal-Sentinel that the 5-foot-9, 205-pound Dayes "maximizes his talent but he’s not a very talented guy." The Day 3 hopeful earned second-team All-ACC designation this past season after rushing for 1,166 yards and 10 touchdowns.

 
 
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel 
Apr 21 - 5:07 PM
 
People who ask these questions should be ashamed of themselves.  What's the poor kid supposed to say?  "I'm just hoping I can start 3 or 4 games in my career and be at least as good as Andre Ware."
First, seriously?  

Secondly, I'll tell you what you don't say if you have even an ounce of self-awareness.  How about this for a start:

“Name a college quarterback who goes into the game-plan meetings on Monday and throws his notes at the coaches,” Kizer said. “No one else game plans the way I do. No one else prepares the way I do. No one else knows football the way I do. No one else is as big as I am. No one else is as powerful a runner as I am. Pat Mahomes might throw the ball 80 yards and I can only throw the ball 72, but I guarantee he can’t throw an out route the way I can.

“No one else can do what I can do. And I’ve truly figured out in this (draft) process, if I can maximize all my potential in every aspect of the game – this is bold – I do have the ability to be the greatest quarterback to ever play. Imagine taking (Tom) Brady’s intellect and Brady’s preparation and putting it on a guy with Cam Newton’s body. Why can’t I be the greatest? The only thing stopping me from it is me. That’s what’s driving me now.”

 
An NFL scout told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that Clemson RB Wayne Gallman is "generic" and "herky-jerky."

"Little bit of strength. Runs hard, but limited. Caught the ball well at pro day but I don’t think he’s a third-down back," said another scout. A third evaluator was more openly optimistic about Gallman's pro potential, telling the Journal-Sentinel that the 6-foot, 215-pounder is a "[r]angy, leggy runner," one who is "[t]ough" and possesses "good vision." Pro Football Focus compares Gallman to Green Bay Packers RB James Stark due to both players' "very good ability to string together cuts once they get downfield." A late Day 2 or early Day 3 selection is likely in the cards for the dependable Clemson runner.

 
 
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel 
Apr 21 - 6:04 PM
 
NFL scout who spoke with the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel said that South Florida RB Marlon Mack "runs away from contact."
"Not a fan," the scout said. "I think he runs out of bounds." Another scout deemed the 5-foot-11, 212-pounder to be "kind of a third-downish back." One more scouting opinion to pass along on Mack -- an evaluator told the Journal-Sentinel, "It’s good he was in the spread offense. When he plays in the big-boy league and has to run between the tackles I don’t know how effective he’s going to be." These quotes are all dubious enough of Mack's pro potential, but one college running backs coach said earlier during the evaluating process that the South Florida standout "definitely has the talent to be a big-time guy." Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline does not see the Mack Attack being drafted within the first four rounds in his most recent mock draft, but he figures to hear his name called on some point during Day 3 festivities next Saturday.

 
 
Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

 
FINAL PFF DRAFT BOARD: TOP 200 PROSPECTS OF 2017

Skill players

7 Corey Davis
9 Dalvin Cook
11 Mike Williams
13 Mitchell Trubiski
16 Christian McCaffrey
17 Deshaun Watson
18 OJ Howard
19 John Ross
23 Leonard Fournette
29 Patrick Mahomes
31 David Njoku
34 Joe Mixon
43 Dede Westbrook
44 Alvin Kamara
52 Zay Jones
56 Gerald Everatt
57 Kareem Hunt
58 Evan Engram
65 DeShone Kizer
70 George Kittle
73 Chris Godwin
78 Curtis Samuel
84 Taywan Taylor
86 D'Onta Foreman
88 Bucky Hodges
92 Cooper Kupp
95 Chad Hansen
97 Isaiah Ford
100 Samajae Perine
101 Mack Hollins
105 Nathan Peterman
106 Jamaal Williams
110 Jake Butt
111 Carlos Henderson
113 Juju Smith-Schuster
115 Brad Kaaya
117 Ardarius Stewart
120 Josh Reynolds
121 Jeremy McNichols
124 Trent Taylor
130 Marlon Mack
133 Jacob Hollister
136 Austin Carr
143 James Conner
144 KD Cannon
145 Jeremy Sprinkle
148 Ishmael Zamora
149 Josh Malone
150 Adam Shaheen
155 Amarah Darboh
162 Malachi Dupree
166 Ryan Switzer
168 Michael ROberts
170 Wayne Gallman
172 Tanner Gentry
174 Donnel Pumphrey
175 Elijah Hood
176 Noah Brown
180 Jalen Robinette
183 Chad Kelly
184 Jehu Chesson
185 Brian Hill
194 Joshua Dobbs
195 Davis Webb
196 Tim Patrick
198 Gabe Marks
199 Travin Dural

 
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NFL Media's Lance Zierlein likens UNC RB T.J. Logan to Akeem Hunt.
Logan was stuck behind Elijah Hood for much of his time in Chapel Hill, but he showed explosion when given an opportunity last season. In 120 carries, he ran for 675 yards and seven touchowns while posting a 29-244-3 line receiving. He also took two balls to the house on kick returns. At the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, Logan ran the forty in 4.37 seconds. "Sleek athlete with excellent short area burst and the finishing speed to hit home runs in all three phases if the opportunity is right," Zierlein wrote. "Logan will likely be considered flex player on the roster who can compete for duties as a kick returner and third down back."

 
 
Source: NFL.com 
Apr 23 - 10:06 AM

 
Washington's John Ross garnered 6-of-16 first-place votes from NFL scouts polled on this year's top wide receiver prospect.
He got more first-place votes than Western Michigan's Corey Davis (5 1/2) and Clemson's Mike Williams (4 1/2), although Davis emerged as the No. 1 "points" getter in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's poll, which used scouts' rankings and not just first-place votes. The points system placed East Carolina's Zay Jones at a distant fourth in this year's wideout class, and USC's JuJu Smith-Schuster at fifth. Eastern Washington's Cooper Kupp finished sixth, Ohio State's Curtis Samuel seventh, and Texas A&M's Josh Reynolds came in eighth. "It's the worst wide receiver class I've seen in a long time," said one NFC executive.
 
 
An executive saying it's the worst wide receiver class I've seen in a long time is a really bad sign.  I wonder how many other NFL execs feel the same way?
 
 
Washington's John Ross garnered 6-of-16 first-place votes from NFL scouts polled on this year's top wide receiver prospect.
He got more first-place votes than Western Michigan's Corey Davis (5 1/2) and Clemson's Mike Williams (4 1/2), although Davis emerged as the No. 1 "points" getter in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel's poll, which used scouts' rankings and not just first-place votes. The points system placed East Carolina's Zay Jones at a distant fourth in this year's wideout class, and USC's JuJu Smith-Schuster at fifth. Eastern Washington's Cooper Kupp finished sixth, Ohio State's Curtis Samuel seventh, and Texas A&M's Josh Reynolds came in eighth. "It's the worst wide receiver class I've seen in a long time," said one NFC executive.
 
 
An executive saying it's the worst wide receiver class I've seen in a long time is a really bad sign.  I wonder how many other NFL execs feel the same way?
 
The team that takes Ross over either Williams or Davis will regret it.

 
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein comps Clemson TE Jordan Leggett to Kellen Davis.

The 6-foot-5, 258-pounder had 46 receptions for 736 yards and seven touchdowns for the national champs last season. His receiving chops are strong, and he compliments them with a great size/speed combination, but Leggett is a disinterested blocker. "Has elite size for the position, but his motor and effort leave a lot to be desired," Zierlein wrote. "Despite his size, might not have the attitude necessary to be an in-line blocker on the NFL level. Tape shows a route-runner who could struggle to uncover against quality man coverage." As for Pro Football Focus, they liken Leggett to Green Bay Packers TE Richard Rodgers, writing: "Short of playing a one-dimensional receiving role, any chance of Jordan’s chances of a prolonged NFL career depend entirely around revamping his overall blocking technique."

 
 
Source: NFL.com 
Apr 23 - 12:47 PM
 
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5 days pre-draft, #Florida DT prospect Caleb Brantley was charged in a 4/13 incident with misdemeanor assault, knocking a woman's tooth out
 

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Report: UF DL Brantley charged with battery
 

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This is a player who admitted he has effort issues. And now this. Brantley is talented, but will be off several draft boards

 
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The dynasty team that takes any of the WRs over Fournette, Mixon, McCaffrey, Cook, or Kamara will regret it.
blanket statements like this bother me. However I don't like Mike Williams....Corey Davis is the real deal. I don't like the John Ross types...unless they land with a bress/brady etc....

After those top 3wr this class does lack the wow factor although I have been a JuJu fan for awhile now. and Godwin should be a solid pro.

Get the feeling that the back half of round1 in dyno rookie drafts will have people taking the TEs thus the Foremans and WR outside the top3 should slide into value spots.

 
The 100 best players in the 2017 NFL draft

Dan Kadar skill players

7 Dalvin Cook
8 Leonard Fournette
10 Mike Williams
11 Corey Davis
12 OJ Howard
14 Deshaun Watson
15 Mitchell Trubisky
20 John Ross
22 Christian McCaffrey
29 David Njoku
33 DeShone Kizer
36 Patrick Mahomes
41 Alvin Kamara
44 Evan Engram
50 Curtis Samuel
60 Zay Jones
61 Joe Mixon
64 Kareem Hunt
67 Juju Smith-Schuster
69 Cooper Kupp
71 Adam Shaheen
74 Chad Hansen
78 Ardarius Stewart
82 Bucky Hodges
84 Davis Webb
85 Samajae Perine
93 Jordan Leggett
95 Gerald Everatt
98 D'Onta Foreman
100 Dede Westbrook

 

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