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[Dynasty] 2022 NFL Draft Class (2 Viewers)

So whats the top of the draft looking like thus far?   Hall appears to be #1, then what?

Subject to change after the draft of course

 
Andy Dufresne said:
Didn't know where else to put this but... Remember this quote from Daniel Jeremiah as you're pining for your team to improve it's o-line... 

"If you go back and look at the last five Super Bowl-winning teams, 25 starting offensive linemen, three of them were home-grown first-round picks. You just can’t have any tomato cans out there." 
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Huh that means only 12% of the 25 starters were 1st round picks selected by their team.

With 88% of the starters not being that it suggests to me that there are tomato cans out there who were not 1st round picks or if they were they were not retained by their original team.

Maybe I am missing something in the context of what DJ was saying, but the data presented here does not really support the idea that SB winning offensive linemen are the result of teams using 1st round picks on them.

 
Biabreakable said:
Huh that means only 12% of the 25 starters were 1st round picks selected by their team.

With 88% of the starters not being that it suggests to me that there are tomato cans out there who were not 1st round picks or if they were they were not retained by their original team.

Maybe I am missing something in the context of what DJ was saying, but the data presented here does not really support the idea that SB winning offensive linemen are the result of teams using 1st round picks on them.
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I think that was Andy's point in posting this. That if you're hoping for an OL savior in the draft, odds are low. 

 
ghostguy123 said:
So whats the top of the draft looking like thus far?   Hall appears to be #1, then what?

Subject to change after the draft of course
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These would be my rankings. They're only mine, so take them with a yuge grain of salt. 

1. Breece Hall
2. Kenneth Walker
3. Rachaad White
4. Garrett Wilson 
5. Jameson Williams 
6. George Pickens 
7. Treylon Burks 
8. Chris Olave 
9. Jerome Ford 
10. Drake London 
11. Skyy Moore 
12. Christian Watson 

 
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Unwrittenlaw said:
Why did none of the RBs do the 3 cone drill?
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Thats a good question that I was wondering about as well.

Are they scheduled to do this drill at another time?

If they didn't as a group do the drill then I can only conclude that doing that drill is not something that helps or hurts their draft stock.

I know the RB doing this drill in the past has been very inconsistent and a lot of the higher RB draft picks did not do the drill, so that did not cause them to not be high picks.

To me having complete data is so much better than incomplete data. I am not seeing any combine numbers for RB doing the 20 yard or 60 yard shuttles either, which makes me think maybe they just have not had their turn at these drills yet as some of these players try to do all of the drills, at least they have in the past.

Aidan Hutchinson had a very impressive 6.73 3 cone drill only 2 players had a faster time than him in this drill.

 
Biabreakable said:
I know the RB doing this drill in the past has been very inconsistent and a lot of the higher RB draft picks did not do the drill, so that did not cause them to not be high picks.

To me having complete data is so much better than incomplete data. I am not seeing any combine numbers for RB doing the 20 yard or 60 yard shuttles either, which makes me think maybe they just have not had their turn at these drills yet as some of these players try to do all of the drills, at least they have in the past.
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Best to my knowledge -- and I don't have a cite but read it -- they skipped all three of those events en masse. 

 
rockaction said:
Best to my knowledge -- and I don't have a cite but read it -- they skipped all three of those events en masse. 
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Thanks.

It certainly didn't help Dalvin Cook to run a below average 3 cone time and it wasn't an indication of his ability to change direction quickly or not, thats for sure.

On the flip side of this however Cooper Kupp had an outstanding 3 cone time with a below average 40 time. At least for me this was an indicator that Kupp had a special athletic trait that backed up his college performance. If he had not done that drill then we would never have known that and I would have been slightly less bullish about him as a prospect.

 
rockaction said:
These would be my rankings. They're only mine, so take them with a yuge grain of salt. 

1. Breece Hall
2. Kenneth Walker
3. Rachaad White
4. Garrett Wilson 
5. Jameson Williams 
6. George Pickens 
7. Treylon Burks 
8. Chris Olave 
9. Jerome Ford 
10. Drake London 
11. Skyy Moore 
12. Christian Watson 
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Rachaad White is very interesting. I feel like he needs to go 2nd round to hold that spot after so many WRs go round 1. 

 
Ilov80s said:
Rachaad White is very interesting. I feel like he needs to go 2nd round to hold that spot after so many WRs go round 1. 
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It's my most ambitious ranking, for sure. But pre-draft, no way around it, I'm the third pick and Walker and Hall are gone? I might just pick White. His testing was just too good. He was clocked at 21.25 MPH at the Senior Bowl. I love Wilson, Williams, and Pickens, but this guy not only has testing, he has production and dominator rating up the yin. He is almost 23, which dampens it, but still. 

 
Biabreakable said:
Huh that means only 12% of the 25 starters were 1st round picks selected by their team.

With 88% of the starters not being that it suggests to me that there are tomato cans out there who were not 1st round picks or if they were they were not retained by their original team.

Maybe I am missing something in the context of what DJ was saying, but the data presented here does not really support the idea that SB winning offensive linemen are the result of teams using 1st round picks on them.
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He's saying the opposite. He's saying you don't need to spend firsts on o-linemen.

Then he's saying you can't have scrubs either.

He's not saying that because you can't have tomato cans that you have to take a first round lineman.

 
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And don't forget, my rankings are seat-of-the-pants and not determinative or final. I combine expert rankings with my own in determining who to chase and who to pick and why. If I'm too far off, I'm determined to ignore the impulse. Last year, Sermon was rated around number sixteen by Fantasy Pros consensus, and I chased at seven in one league, and I will have gotten burned in that one league. 

I'll change a million times until the actual fantasy draft I'm a part of, which will come after the NFL draft in May. My other dynasty league will draft in August, actually. 

 
Marvin Elequin@FF_MarvinE

2022 Rookie Wide Receivers Below are the early results of my WR prospect model for the 2022 class - factoring in production, efficiency & projected draft capital My thoughts on this class, how the model works, & how this class comps to 2020/2021 in the thread below! [1 of 5]

LINK to chart 📊

Marvin Elequin@FF_MarvinE

How does the model work? I use historical college/draft class data going back to 2010 to run a regression analysis projecting Years 1-3 PPG Metrics used include experience adjusted production & efficiency, proj. draft capital, & a film score from ESPN Scouts Inc [4 of 5]

Marvin Elequin@FF_MarvinE

Lastly, here's how the 2022 class compares to 2020 & 2021! Ja'Marr Chase, CeeDee Lamb, and Rashod Bateman lead the way, but Burks, Wilson, and London are not far behind. As always, reach out with any questions/feedback! [5 of 5]

LINK to chart 📊

 
Faust said:
Top draft prospect Kayvon Thibodeaux responds to criticism about his passion for the game at NFL Scouting Combine

KAYVON THIBODEAUX PLAYING FOOTBALL LIKE A GAME OF CHESS
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Former Oregon EDGE Kayvon Thibodeaux did not participate in all of the drills at Saturday's portion of the NFL Scouting Combine.

Thibodeaux (6'4/254) has drawn criticism this offseason for his "fire" and "passion" for the game, with his early combine exit only stoking those fires. During NFL Network's combine broadcast, it was reported that Thibodeaux was waiting until his pro day so he could perform in both the defensive line and linebacker drills. Thibodeaux posted a solid 4.58 40-yard dash and led all EDGE rushers in bench reps (27). The athleticism and skill set is undoubtedly there. But these underlying narratives may affect his draft stock with some teams, whether true or not.

SOURCE: Fox Sports

Mar 6, 2022, 2:30 PM ET
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2022 pre-combine rookie consensus 1QB - I take out the maximum and minimum for average and SD.  

Code: 
ovr rnk drft	Player		Pos	count	Avg	SD
39	1.01	Treylon Burks	WR	12	40.20	8.84
40	1.02	Garrett Wilson	WR	12	42.30	5.83
41	1.03	Breece Hall	RB	12	42.70	14.37
49	1.04	Isaiah Spiller	RB	12	51.30	13.38
53	1.05	Drake London	WR	12	54.50	7.31
70	1.06	Ja. Williams	WR	12	67.30	13.98
71	1.07	K. Walker III	RB	12	68.00	9.51
76	1.08	Chris Olave	WR	12	76.80	16.36
87	1.09	George Pickens	WR	12	87.70	11.42
89	1.10	David Bell	WR	12	90.70	15.49
101	1.11	Kyren Williams	RB	12	102.90	15.97
108	1.12	Jahan Dotson	WR	12	109.20	22.24
118	2.01	Wan' Robinson	WR	12	118.90	30.60
128	2.02	Rachaad White	RB	11	135.60	26.68
130	2.03	Trey McBride	TE	12	137.50	23.04
133	2.04	Tyler Allgeier	RB	12	139.70	26.61
135	2.05	Skyy Moore	WR	11	140.30	28.50
136	2.06	Malik Willis	QB	10	141.30	36.32
138	2.07	B. Robinson Jr.	RB	12	143.60	31.16
142	2.08	John Metchie	WR	12	145.60	40.90
154	2.09	Justyn Ross	WR	12	156.80	38.46
158	2.10	Kenny Pickett	QB	12	159.00	23.53
165	2.11	Chris. Watson	WR	10	170.10	38.44
166	2.12	Matt Corral	QB	10	170.20	28.55
169	3.01	Dameon Pierce	RB	11	171.60	45.34
171	3.02	Jalen Wydermyer	TE	10	172.50	48.02
174	3.03	James Cook	RB	11	176.90	26.95
175	3.04	Jalen Tolbert	WR	12	178.50	32.62
178	3.05	Jerome Ford	RB	9	180.40	44.77
186	3.06	Sam Howell	QB	9	191.70	32.21
191	3.07	Jeremy Ruckert	TE	10	193.70	31.08
210	3.08	Alec Pierce	WR	7	209.90	35.19
211	3.09	Tyler Badie	RB	8	209.90	31.91
216	3.10	Khalil Shakir	WR	9	213.10	25.82
218	3.11	Zamir White	RB	9	214.20	20.84
220	3.12	Isaiah Likely	TE	7	215.80	30.33
233	4.01	Hassan Haskins	RB	7	223.30	20.82
 
2022 pre-combine rookie consensus superflex - I take out the maximum and minimum for average and SD.

Code: 
ovrll  rank	Player		Pos	count	Avg	SD
49	1.01	Breece Hall	RB	10	49.00	10.16
51	1.02	Treylon Burks	WR	10	49.25	3.45
53	1.03	Garrett Wilson	WR	10	53.75	5.15
59	1.04	Isaiah Spiller	RB	10	59.38	8.80
65	1.05	Drake London	WR	10	66.63	4.37
68	1.06	Malik Willis	QB	10	67.63	6.46
82	1.07	K. Walker III	RB	10	79.63	5.85
84	1.08	Jam. Williams	WR	10	83.75	12.06
85	1.09	Kenny Pickett	QB	10	86.25	16.46
91	1.10	Chris Olave	WR	10	91.00	10.84
93	1.11	Matt Corral	QB	10	95.88	14.07
107	1.12	George Pickens	WR	10	106.00	10.70
108	2.01	Sam Howell	QB	10	107.00	16.78
115	2.02	David Bell	WR	10	113.88	7.85
116	2.03	Kyren Williams	RB	10	114.38	9.32
126	2.04	Jahan Dotson	WR	10	127.75	12.16
136	2.05	Rachaad White	RB	10	139.25	9.15
137	2.06	Wan' Robinson	WR	10	139.88	20.08
144	2.07	Tyler Allgeier	RB	10	146.25	6.41
148	2.08	Trey McBride	TE	10	149.00	17.60
155	2.09	B. Robinson Jr.	RB	10	162.50	23.81
156	2.10	Skyy Moore	WR	10	162.63	10.56
166	2.11	Desmond Ridder	QB	8	169.13	33.13
167	2.12	Dameon Pierce	RB	9	169.50	26.59
168	3.01	Jerome Ford	RB	9	172.88	25.20
171	3.02	John Metchie	WR	10	175.25	18.16
173	3.03	Carson Strong	QB	7	176.50	44.27
175	3.04	Justyn Ross	WR	10	177.88	11.23
176	3.05	James Cook	RB	10	180.63	20.02
180	3.06	Chris. Watson	WR	10	183.13	13.27
186	3.07	Jalen Wydermyer	TE	8	189.25	39.47
188	3.08	Jalen Tolbert	WR	10	190.25	12.81
203	3.09	Jeremy Ruckert	TE	7	211.13	26.29
213	3.10	Tyler Badie	RB	7	216.38	24.46
217	3.11	Bailey Zappe	QB	5	221.13	29.96
221	3.12	Zamir White	RB	8	222.63	15.53
222	4.01	Alec Pierce	WR	6	223.13	17.50
227	4.02	Khalil Shakir	WR	6	225.50	16.68
232	4.03	Hassan Haskins	RB	7	226.75	17.38
233	4.04	Kevin Harris	RB	5	228.00	15.19
235	4.05	Sinc. McCormick	RB	5	228.38	17.76
239	4.06	Cal. Austin III	WR	5	234.25	11.94
 
I feel like I'm in the extreme minority here, but I'm pretty meh on Treylon Burks. Like, I think he's a 1st rounder sure, but 1.1 seems crazy to me. He's my WR5 at the moment. 

He's got good size, and ok athleticism, but I'm not seeing this AJ Brown level prospect. I'm not saying he'll be a bust, but I have a hard time feeling better about him than either Ohio St WR, or either injured WR(London, Williams)

I think Burks is a better prospect, but I do have a bit of a N'Keal Harry concern with him. I just keep thinking back to 2019, when I felt I was alone in greatly preferring Metcalf, AJ Brown, Deebo (and Isabella to be fair, I won't pretend I have a 100% hit rate) to Harry, and I feel like its happening again this year.

 
The underwear Olympics is going to cause a lot of fantasy managers to select some players too early.  

 
Unwrittenlaw said:
Why did none of the RBs do the 3 cone drill?
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Rich Hribar@LordReebs

So zero running backs did agility drills at the combine. At the last combine in 2020, just 8 did the 3Cone and 11 participated in the shuttle drills. NFL has just nuked this now for WRs and RBs moving the event back to primetime.

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Rich Hribar@LordReebs

Just 13 of 40 WRs participated in the 3C yesterday. 25 in 2020, 29 in 2019, 26 in 2018.

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Rich Hribar@LordReebs

Wanted to circle back and look at participation versus previous years, too. It also feels like more WRs are outright skipping these drills at the event. May be part of a signal that they are just focusing more on running.

Dane Brugler@dpbrugler

This is bonkers. Number of WRs with a sub-7.00 second 3-cone:

  • 2022: 2
  • 2020: 4
  • 2019: 8
  • 2018: 18
  • 2017: 23
 
ghostguy123 said:
So whats the top of the draft looking like thus far?   Hall appears to be #1, then what?

Subject to change after the draft of course
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I got 1.01 and Hall, Burks and Wilson are the 3 I will consider, and it will likely come down to what team picks each.   If CLEV takes either WR, I will cross them off my list.

 
ESPN/Scouts Inc draft analyst Steve Muench named San Diego State TE Daniel Bellinger as a big riser at last week's NFL Combine.

Bellinger (6'6/255) went into Mobile relatively unheralded but left a big impression in being named the top TE for the American squad. In a deep class of tight ends, Bellinger stood out in a big way at the combine. Running a 4.63 40-yard dash along with the best broad jump at 125" showed a lot to scouts that he could be a diverse weapon moving forward. Muench said that he went from a fifth-round grade to in the early day-three mix.

SOURCE: Steve Muench

Mar 7, 2022, 1:06 PM ET
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That new turf at Lukas Oil is HELLA fast. Will be interesting to see how teams make adjustments for the times or if they do it all. They would need to for comparison’s sake across past draft classes, but don’t really need to for just comparisons within position groups this year
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https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/status/1500661096423870467

Possible explanation for the very fast 40 times at the combine. 40 times at Pro Days will be an interesting comparison. 

 
 
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NFL Draft expert Daniel Jeremiah is projecting Aidan Hutchinson to the Jacksonville Jaguars first overall with their recent franchise tagging of LT Cam Robinson.

The near consensus top two picks so far have been tackles Ikem Ekwonu and Evan Neal. With the Jags franchise tagging Robinson however, they don't really have a need at the position, and could obviously use a lot of help elsewhere. The move has Daniel Jeremiah thinking Aidan Hutchinson will be the guy to go first overall. Travon Walker and Kayvon Thibodeaux are the other top EDGE prospects, but the noise has been all about Hutchinson so far. 

SOURCE: Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter

Mar 8, 2022, 2:20 PM ET
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Michigan EDGE Aidan Hutchinson is now the odds on favorite to be the first pick in the draft after the Jacksonville Jaguars franchise tagged Cam Robinson.

Per DKSportsbook, Hutchinson is now -165 to be the first pick in the draft. With the Jags franchise tagging their left tackle Cam Robinson, the two consensus to picks in Ikem Ekwonu and Evan Neal don't make as much sense anymore. Hutchinson tested well at the combine, putting up solid explosive numbers, but setting records in the agility drills. His short arms are his biggest concern, but the college tape and production are definitely there. The most important positions in football are the QB, the guys who protect the QB, and the guys who get after the QB. The Jags theoretically have the first two, so taking Hutchinson to lead the defensive line makes a lot of sense. 

SOURCE: PFF Bet on Twitter

Mar 8, 2022, 3:45 PM ET
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JohnnyU said:
The underwear Olympics is going to cause a lot of fantasy managers to select some players too early.  
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: I believe the NFL Combine was created for sharp GMs to pull the wool over the eyes of average to below-average GMs in the league.

It puts focus on things that have very little to do with playing a football game, and the teams that know their stuff are perfectly fine with that.

 
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