[DYNASTY] How high do you rank Cam Newton? (1 Viewer)

[EBF]

In case you missed Cam Newton's stat line from today:

24/37 (64.9%), 422 passing yards, 2 passing TDs, 1 INT, 18 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD

I was intrigued by his potential coming out of Auburn, but I certainly didn't anticipate a debut like this. He looked like a monster out there. Built like a DE. Arm like a howitzer. I've never been too keen on hyping QBs based on their physical talents (I always thought Vince Young was a fraud), but this guy makes even Mike Vick look like a punk.

Are we witnessing the birth of a superstar here or will he be just another big-armed QB who struggles with consistency?

I'm asking myself where I would rank him among dynasty QBs and it's hard for me to answer. I kind of get the feeling that if he realizes his full potential, he could be a true difference-maker. On the other hand, I still remember how carried away people got with Vince Young after his rookie year even though he was always more athlete than passer. So...

Where would you Cam on your dynasty QB list after today's performance?

 

[Ted Lange as your Bartender]

I'm struggling with this question myself, because he was amazing today.

Right now, I'd probably put him in a tier below Ryan and Flacco but above Sanchez (all of which are below Stafford, Freeman, Bradford and Ben). This probably puts him low to mid teens overall. His ceiling is as high if not higher than all of them due to his arm, size and running ability, but his risk of reaching it is obviously higher as well.

His ranking will almost definitely be the most volatile of all dynasty QBs throughout the year.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Call me in a couple more weeks . . .

 

[moderated]

Tough to rank, but he has such crazy upside. if you háve a top qb and he's a guy you don't need this season it's hard not to rank him in the top 10

More then the numbers he just looked the part and played like a seasoned veteran with his poise and command of his teams offense.

Rodgers, Brees, Vick, Rivers for sure, but after that I think an argument could be made for him. He isn't necessarily 5, but he's in the ballpark. He is the type who can dominate the stat line, there aren't mant qb's who have that potential.

 

[SSOG]

First off, Cam Newton looked awesome today, but not awesome enough for me to eschew the standard "for a rookie" caveat. I'm not meaning this as an insult- Cam Newton looked genuinely, surprisingly awesome... for a rookie. That might have been the most impressive performance I have seen from a QB... making his rookie debut. I'm not trying to trivialize his performance, which was record-breaking and history-making, I'm merely trying to temper my enthusiasm some. Also, it didn't hurt that Steve Smith certainly did his part to remind everyone why he's the baddest man in the NFL, too.

As for where I have him ranked... I'll almost certainly be bumping him into the 11-15 range. Probably closer to 11 than 15, since my rankings place a huge emphasis on upside over consistency. The only thing holding him there is going to be risk aversion- I'm not ready to bump him up any higher on the strength of a single game. A handful more games anywhere near as impressive as this one will go a long way towards reassuring me (and I don't necessarily mean as impressive statistically, because Cam Newton could play for 10 years and not match his passing yardage total this week- Tom Brady's never topped 422 yards, for instance). With enough solid performances, I could see Newton easily ascending as high as 7th by the end of the season.

 

[Faust]

Cam Newton Shatters Records in Debut

Cam Newton started his NFL career as the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers, and he also started it in the record books after throwing for 422 yards in the Panthers' season opener.

However, Newton needed just one more yard to make the day a complete success, as his fourth-down completion to Mike Goodson fell a yard shy of a first down in the Panthers’ 28-21 loss to the Arizona Cardinals.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Newton shattered the NFL record for the most pass yards in a player’s NFL debut. The previous record was 346 by Otto Graham for the Cleveland Browns in 1950.

In fact, only five other players even had a 300-yard passing game in their NFL debuts, most recently done by Ryan Fitzpatrick for the St. Louis Rams in 2005.

Newton is also just the second rookie in NFL history to throw for more than 300 yards in his team’s season opener. He has some impressive company, as Peyton Manning did it for the Indianapolis Colts in 1998. Like Newton, Manning also lost his game on the way to a 3-13 rookie season.

It took Newton all of one game to have 422 passing yards, while the list of notable quarterbacks to never throw for that many yards in a game is like a Hall of Fame roll call. Terry Bradshaw, Tom Brady, Jim Kelly, Bart Starr and Fran Tarkenton never threw for that many yards in a single game in their NFL careers.

Dating back to 1960, only three players have had more passing yards in a season opener: Dan Marino, Kurt Warner and Peyton Manning. Those players have combined for seven Associated Press MVP awards.

Newton did not, however, break the Panthers franchise record for passing yards in a game, falling just a single yard short of Chris Weinke’s record, set in 2006 against the New York Giants. That day, Carolina also came out on the losing end, a 27-13 defeat.

 

[the_vision]

24/37 (64.9%), 422 passing yards, 2 passing TDs, 1 INT, 18 rushing yards, 1 rushing TD

I wasnt able to watch the game, I only saw the bits that were shown on NFL RZ, but those are great numbers for any QB. From what I did see he was making super quick decisions and throwing with crazy velocity. It did look like maybe he let the ball go a bit early on the last play of the game - I thought maybe he had the TE open in the EZ but he hit 8 different receivers, threw from the pocket, threw on the run and threw with touch to the corner. Great game regardless of it being his 1st or his 20th.

 

[jurb26]

I didn't see much of the game so maybe those who did can chime in with some info. From what I did see though, it seemed like Arz sold out to stop the run and dared Newton to beat them. Was that consistent throughout the entire game? The long S. Smith TD was clearly a blown coverage in which Arz blitzed the CB and the S never rolled over the top. By in large it seemed Arz was isolating their DBs and got burned. I'm really wondering how much of this performance was simply taking advantage of that scheme. I'm wondering because it could have multiple effects as Car moves forward. If Newton is proving he can beat you, then I suspect that will get D's to play them more "honestly." That should be a good thing for the running game.

 

[FDC]

From what I did see though, it seemed like Arz sold out to stop the run and dared Newton to beat them.

From what I recall, they blitzed every play no matter the situation.

 

[renesauz]

I didn't see much of the game so maybe those who did can chime in with some info. From what I did see though, it seemed like Arz sold out to stop the run and dared Newton to beat them. Was that consistent throughout the entire game? The long S. Smith TD was clearly a blown coverage in which Arz blitzed the CB and the S never rolled over the top. By in large it seemed Arz was isolating their DBs and got burned. I'm really wondering how much of this performance was simply taking advantage of that scheme. I'm wondering because it could have multiple effects as Car moves forward. If Newton is proving he can beat you, then I suspect that will get D's to play them more "honestly." That should be a good thing for the running game.

'Zona did sell out. That makes the performance no less impressive, because the rookie kept his cool and found the open or right man on almost every play. He threw with accuracy from multiple platforms and frequently stood tall in collapsing pockets. He didn't take off and run at the first sign of pressure. The defensive scheme allowed 400+ passing yards, but the style and accuracy from Newton would have dictated good numbers regardless.That performance would be impressive from a 10 year vet. From a rookie in his first start...unbelievable.

 

[KentGraham10]

I for one was very impressed, but the guy that owned him in my dynasty league was shopping him immediately! I got the last laugh, traded Bradford, Payton, and a 1st Round Pick next year for this guy. He is the real deal and I'm going all in baby!

 

[Seekay]

I for one was very impressed, but the guy that owned him in my dynasty league was shopping him immediately! I got the last laugh, traded Bradford, Payton, and a 1st Round Pick next year for this guy. He is the real deal and I'm going all in baby!

LOL, wow. I wouldn't be so sure on that last laugh comment.

 

[jurb26]

I didn't see much of the game so maybe those who did can chime in with some info. From what I did see though, it seemed like Arz sold out to stop the run and dared Newton to beat them. Was that consistent throughout the entire game? The long S. Smith TD was clearly a blown coverage in which Arz blitzed the CB and the S never rolled over the top. By in large it seemed Arz was isolating their DBs and got burned. I'm really wondering how much of this performance was simply taking advantage of that scheme. I'm wondering because it could have multiple effects as Car moves forward. If Newton is proving he can beat you, then I suspect that will get D's to play them more "honestly." That should be a good thing for the running game.

'Zona did sell out. That makes the performance no less impressive, because the rookie kept his cool and found the open or right man on almost every play. He threw with accuracy from multiple platforms and frequently stood tall in collapsing pockets. He didn't take off and run at the first sign of pressure. The defensive scheme allowed 400+ passing yards, but the style and accuracy from Newton would have dictated good numbers regardless.That performance would be impressive from a 10 year vet. From a rookie in his first start...unbelievable.

So, teams are going to be forced to back off? Or were the Arz DBs just that bad. If teams have to back off then the Car running game could greatly improve as the season rolls on.

 

[tim_whatley]

We'll know a lot more after Week 2, but it is clear the guy has so much upside. I have him in dynasty and started him yesterday in a 2 Qb league. I was scoffed at in my rookie draft when I took him #5, that made yesterday that much sweeter.

 

[jonboltz]

He was taken as QB17 by me in a dynasty startup a few weeks ago.

Rodgers

Vick

Rivers

Romo

Brees

Brady

P Manning

Ryan

Rothlisberger

Freeman

Bradford

Stafford

Schaub

Flacco

E Manning

Cutler

Newton

Kolb

Sanchez

McCoy

Right now, I would probably slot him right about even with Schaub, and definitely ahead of the Flacco/Eli/Cutler crowd, who I feel have little chance of cracking top 6-8 production at any point in their career.

If he puts up a solid year, I could see him pushing ahead of Schaub and Freeman. Possibly ahead of Ryan, Stafford, and Ben -- depending on how they perform, of course.

 

[squistion]

In a start up dynasty draft, I would now rank him as the #11 QB, below Stafford and Bradford, but above Freeman (if we are talking about unproven prospects). The value is inflated by the gaudy numbers he put up yesterday and he will come back to earth in the coming weeks - whether he will also crash and burn remains to be seen. However, at this point I would roll the dice that what we saw is a preview of coming attractions rather than a mirage.

At this moment, placing him above Freeman is a close call. I own Freeman in a couple leagues, and while I think I would pull the trigger if offered a straight up trade for Newton, I am not a 100% certain I could actually do it (probably though).

Bradford is still ranked comfortably above him (based on what we saw the last year) but the wild card there is McDaniels' offense - we know some good WRs (see Eddie Royal) are a poor fit for the hot reads that are required. The question is, it is also a system that suits some QBs better than others? There is no reason to believe Bradford won't eventually get the hang of it, but until he does, there is a little doubt there.

If Newton continues to do reasonably well for a rookie, I will probably move him up a few more notches. More likely, though, he will struggle through a learning curve and will hover ranked in the low teens. I have seen enough that I would like to acquire him in at least one league, but right now I am guessing that the going price (based on just one NFL game) is more than I would want to pay.

 

[EBF]

and I don't necessarily mean as impressive statistically, because Cam Newton could play for 10 years and not match his passing yardage total this week- Tom Brady's never topped 422 yards, for instance

:jinx:511 for Brady tonight with a few minutes left in the 4th.

What a crazy week for passing stats. Even Grossman and Henne look like rock stars.

 

[Football Jones]

His performance is hard to quantify. The likely scenario is Newton struggles pretty badly, but stranger things have happened. I normally have a definitive opinion on players coming out of college, but Newton is one of those players I currently have in limbo until I can form a concrete opinion. I tend to lean against him being a FF stud, but like I said, I'm not there yet.

Newton looked good, though. No doubt.

 

[nxmehta]

and I don't necessarily mean as impressive statistically, because Cam Newton could play for 10 years and not match his passing yardage total this week- Tom Brady's never topped 422 yards, for instance

:jinx:511 for Brady tonight with a few minutes left in the 4th.

What a crazy week for passing stats. Even Grossman and Henne look like rock stars.

Tom Brady, on pace for... 8,176 yards /hijack

 

[LittlePhatty]

Tom Brady's never topped 422 yards, for instance

511 for Brady tonight with a few minutes left in the 4th.

Brady saw this thread and got jealous.He can basically go out and do whatever he wants. 800 yards passing? Sure, no problem. But he holds back to make it interesting.

 

[jurb26]

and I don't necessarily mean as impressive statistically, because Cam Newton could play for 10 years and not match his passing yardage total this week- Tom Brady's never topped 422 yards, for instance

:jinx:511 for Brady tonight with a few minutes left in the 4th.

What a crazy week for passing stats. Even Grossman and Henne look like rock stars.

Tom Brady, on pace for... 8,176 yards /hijack

I guess he was pissed a rook was stealing the spotlight in week 1.

 

[hitchcock]

I traded essentially Cam Newton (Eddie Royal and D. Ward, too) for Jeremy Maclin in a PPR dynasty league to an owner who had only Eli and Cassel at QB.

Happy to sell high on Cam even though he could be real deal.

 

[moderated]

I traded essentially Cam Newton (Eddie Royal and D. Ward, too) for Jeremy Maclin in a PPR dynasty league to an owner who had only Eli and Cassel at QB.Happy to sell high on Cam even though he could be real deal.

You didn't sell high. Maclin is good but if Cam pans out he is going to be a huge difference maker in FF.

 

[Todem]

He will have his up's and down's this season. But he is the real deal. Plain as day.

He will be an elite stud in the NFL and be a great FF QB as well.

 

[hitchcock]

Sure, but if you drafted Cam as a backup/third QB you wouldn't be doing your job if you didn't shop him after Week 1 for a starter elsewhere. Just my .02

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I traded essentially Cam Newton (Eddie Royal and D. Ward, too) for Jeremy Maclin in a PPR dynasty league to an owner who had only Eli and Cassel at QB.Happy to sell high on Cam even though he could be real deal.

You didn't sell high. Maclin is good but if Cam pans out he is going to be a huge difference maker in FF.

Maybe. But I think right now Newton-for-Maclin is pretty much selling high. I mean, Vick is going in the 2nd-3rd of most dynasty start-ups. So is Maclin. If we accept that the numbers Vick has put up are around Newton's ceiling, best case scenario, then that's definitely not selling low. Now, you can argue that Newton is a rookie, so he'll do it for much longer than Vick...and I agree. But that risk's already built into Vick's value, and he's STILL getting drafted that high in dynasty. So even if he DOES match Vick's performance, do you really see him getting drafted before the 2nd/3rd round of a 12 team dynasty startup? I don't. So best case, he goes right around where Maclin is going, maybe earlier. But he's not there yet, so I think its selling high even if he DOES turn out to be a fantasy stud.

 

[moderated]

I traded essentially Cam Newton (Eddie Royal and D. Ward, too) for Jeremy Maclin in a PPR dynasty league to an owner who had only Eli and Cassel at QB.Happy to sell high on Cam even though he could be real deal.

You didn't sell high. Maclin is good but if Cam pans out he is going to be a huge difference maker in FF.

Maybe. But I think right now Newton-for-Maclin is pretty much selling high. I mean, Vick is going in the 2nd-3rd of most dynasty start-ups. So is Maclin. If we accept that the numbers Vick has put up are around Newton's ceiling, best case scenario, then that's definitely not selling low. Now, you can argue that Newton is a rookie, so he'll do it for much longer than Vick...and I agree. But that risk's already built into Vick's value, and he's STILL getting drafted that high in dynasty. So even if he DOES match Vick's performance, do you really see him getting drafted before the 2nd/3rd round of a 12 team dynasty startup? I don't. So best case, he goes right around where Maclin is going, maybe earlier. But he's not there yet, so I think its selling high even if he DOES turn out to be a fantasy stud.

If a 22 year old Cam Newton ends the season as a top 5-8 FF QB he will without a doubt be going in the first 2 rounds of startup dynasty drafts next offseason, and very likely in the 1st round.I don't think trading Cam for Maclin is a bad trade, but i wouldn't call it selling high as there is a very good chance Newton is worth more going into next season. Based on the teams makeup that traded Cam for Maclin it is a good trade, i just didn't agree it was necessarily selling high.

 

[tim_whatley]

Cam's dynasty ceiling is much higher than Maclin's I would't make that trade unless I thought Maclin would ensure me the championship THIS YEAR and I have a hard time imagining too many scenarios where that would be the case.

 

[hitchcock]

Cam's dynasty ceiling is much higher than Maclin's I would't make that trade unless I thought Maclin would ensure me the championship THIS YEAR and I have a hard time imagining too many scenarios where that would be the case.

This is why I sold Cam this week. Maclin's a good player and goes within first 3-4 rounds in a dynasty startup. Cam didn't go until 12-14th round. One game and I was able to trade Cam for Maclin. I love it! And I'm curious to hear why Maclin's only valuable THIS year but this thread isn't about him.

 

[bonesman]

Cam's dynasty ceiling is much higher than Maclin's I would't make that trade unless I thought Maclin would ensure me the championship THIS YEAR and I have a hard time imagining too many scenarios where that would be the case.

This is why I sold Cam this week. Maclin's a good player and goes within first 3-4 rounds in a dynasty startup. Cam didn't go until 12-14th round. One game and I was able to trade Cam for Maclin. I love it! And I'm curious to hear why Maclin's only valuable THIS year but this thread isn't about him.

He's not saying that Maclin is only valuable this year. He's saying that Cam's value could be so far through the roof that unless you need that one piece now to contend, you're sacrificing future success/return value for the short term.

 

[EBF]

If a player with these credentials...

- College superstar.

- Heisman winner.

- #1 overall draft pick.

...dominated in his first pro game while looking like a man among boys, and was a RB/WR/TE then I think people would be going bonkers about his dynasty future. Yet there is still a lot of restraint with Newton, despite a lot of things working in his favor.

I think it's understandable given the nature of the QB position. He's really raw and hasn't shown that he can deliver on a weekly basis. Still, this does have a bit of a Randy Moss in Minny feel to it. We'll just have to see how he does over the next couple weeks. My hunch is that he will have some brilliant moments, but also some dud games. It's hard for inexperienced QBs to consistently play well in the NFL, and Cam is very inexperienced.

He's pretty interesting as a dynasty target. Not many players have a chance to be special, and he looks like he might have that capability. We should know more soon.

 

[moderated]

Besides Rodgers I'm not sure I'd take anyone else over him. He's the real deal.

 

[hitchcock]

Yea, today I felt silly for trading him. Like Maclin but should've held onto him. Bittersweet watching him play today.

 

[Cowboys#1]

So.. is he a top 5 dynasty qb already?

Rodgers

Rivers

Brady

Brees

Vick

Anyone of these guys that you deal straight up for Newton?

 

[moderated]

So.. is he a top 5 dynasty qb already?RodgersRiversBradyBreesVickAnyone of these guys that you deal straight up for Newton?

Cam is #1b with Rodgers IMO.

 

[EBF]

I certainly wouldn't trade Rodgers for him, but given how good he looks and given the relatively advanced age of the other elite pro passers, I think you can argue that Newton should be the #2 dynasty QB.

I'm not usually one for jumping the gun with rookie QBs, especially if their game is predicated on physical ability more than pure passing, but there seems to be a difference between Newton and guys like Young and Vick (who were both strongly hyped as young QBs after flashing talent). He's a better passer and he has better character. He's also a lot bigger than Vick and a lot stronger than Young.

He's already lighting up box scores. If the early returns represent only a fraction of what he'll eventually become, he looks like the type who could not only be a top 5 dynasty QB, but also a top 5 dynasty PLAYER.

 

[moderated]

My top 10 dynasty qb's.

1)Cam Newton

2)Aaron Rodgers

3)Philip rivers

4)Drew brees

5)Matt stafford

6)Tom Brady

7)Sam Bradford

8)mike Vick

9)Tony romo

10) Matt Ryan

 

[ConnSKINS26]

My top 10 dynasty qb's.1)Cam Newton2)Aaron Rodgers3)Philip rivers4)Drew brees5)Matt stafford6)Tom Brady7)Sam Bradford8)mike Vick9)Tony romo10) Matt Ryan

Wow. Took two entire games to overshadow years of top production, huh? Guys like Rodgers, Rivers, and Stafford are the type of QB's that work for both rebuilding and competing teams, because they're relatively young (or in Stafford's case if healthy, VERY young), yet totally proven (again, except in Stafford's case). Cam being 22 doesn't offer much added value in comparison to these guys, as its really just ridiculous to plan for more than 3-4 years down the road in dynasty, never mind 7-8. Its not like we're talking about RB's here.So these guys are proven. And will start for your fantasy team for over half a decade at least. So why are they valued less than a player who's only ever played in two games?I appreciate the rarity and historical nature of Newton's first two games, and I AM an owner in a couple leagues. I just don't see the logic in your ranking here.Of course, it becomes totally reasonable if Newton really does average 30+ points a game throughout the entire season, and stays healthy. But that's not likely to happen.

 

[jurb26]

My top 10 dynasty qb's.1)Cam Newton2)Aaron Rodgers3)Philip rivers4)Drew brees5)Matt stafford6)Tom Brady7)Sam Bradford8)mike Vick9)Tony romo10) Matt Ryan

Not a bad list. I'm still hesitant to put Newton so high, myself. I think he is clearly showing he is worthy of a top 10 ranking, perhaps top 5. I just can't place him over some other guys who have done it longer and are more proven.1. Rodgers2. Rivers3. Stafford4. Brady5. Brees6. Newton7. Roethlisberger8. Vick9. Ryan10. Freeman

 

[moderated]

I can't really see anyone outside of Rodgers being ranking above Cam in dynasty now that we've seen a decent sample out of Cam.

Is Cam the clear #2 dynasty QB now?

 

[jurb26]

I can't really see anyone outside of Rodgers being ranking above Cam in dynasty now that we've seen a decent sample out of Cam.Is Cam the clear #2 dynasty QB now?

I still think Brady has to be ahead of him due to the sheer win now effect. Other than that, you're probably right. I think Newton and Stafford are the elite QBs of the next 10 years. I can't believe I'm saying that about Newton. He's making some passes that are pretty remarkable though.

 

[moderated]

I can't really see anyone outside of Rodgers being ranking above Cam in dynasty now that we've seen a decent sample out of Cam.Is Cam the clear #2 dynasty QB now?

I still think Brady has to be ahead of him due to the sheer win now effect. Other than that, you're probably right. I think Newton and Stafford are the elite QBs of the next 10 years. I can't believe I'm saying that about Newton. He's making some passes that are pretty remarkable though.

i think the 10 year age difference separates Cam and Brady. QB's can play elite into their mid/late 30's, so Cam has 15 or so years left whereas Brady only has 4-5 more elite years.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I can't really see anyone outside of Rodgers being ranking above Cam in dynasty now that we've seen a decent sample out of Cam.Is Cam the clear #2 dynasty QB now?

I still think Brady has to be ahead of him due to the sheer win now effect. Other than that, you're probably right. I think Newton and Stafford are the elite QBs of the next 10 years. I can't believe I'm saying that about Newton. He's making some passes that are pretty remarkable though.

i think the 10 year age difference separates Cam and Brady. QB's can play elite into their mid/late 30's, so Cam has 15 or so years left whereas Brady only has 4-5 more elite years.

If you believe that Brady has 4-5 years left of elite production (I'm not sure that he does, but I'd accept the argument), then why would you plan beyond that? Too many things can happen beyond that window to factor it into rankings. Now, I WOULD factor age into this ranking, contrary to what I said above, because I don't think Brady has 4-5 more years of HOF-level production. But you do, so I don't see why you factor in Cam's incredibly young age.I'm a Newton owner, and NOT a Brady owner, to clarify. I'm just not a believer in planning beyond 4-5 years down the road. Your entire roster is going to witness massive turnover by then unless you're very lucky with injuries and consistent production, or just hate to trade.

 

[thriftyrocker]

i think the 10 year age difference separates Cam and Brady. QB's can play elite into their mid/late 30's, so Cam has 15 or so years left whereas Brady only has 4-5 more elite years.

"Can" is an important word in that sentence. Daunte Culpepper was the #1 QB in fantasy one year. And was benched for Joey Harrington 2 or 3 years later. Tebow had a great 3 week run last year. And was benched for Kyle Orton this year.

 

[Hendo]

ill take Stafford, hes a whole 23yrs old and has elite arm strength and reads defenses well with a budding young team loaded with skill positions

 

[EBF]

I can't really see anyone outside of Rodgers being ranking above Cam in dynasty now that we've seen a decent sample out of Cam.Is Cam the clear #2 dynasty QB now?

I think so.Who would you trade him for?There are no QBs you could trade him for besides Rodgers who offer the same kind of difference-maker potential in dynasty. Brady and Brees are great right now, but how much longer. Players like Rivers and Ben are fantastic in real life, but not really guys who are going to win you FF leagues. What I'm more curious about now is Newton's overall dynasty ranking. Which WRs and RBs would you trade him for? I have him in a couple leagues and it would be really hard to part with him. He looks like an instant star. The Randy Moss of QBs.

 

[thehornet]

where the heck is bradford on your lists! Talk about flavor of the week type rankings with some of you.

 

[jurb26]

where the heck is bradford on your lists! Talk about flavor of the week type rankings with some of you.

In the top 10? Bradford never deserved to be in the top 10.

 

[thehornet]

where the heck is bradford on your lists! Talk about flavor of the week type rankings with some of you.

In the top 10? Bradford never deserved to be in the top 10.

i'm not going to say you can;t have an opinion, but your opinion of bradford not being a top 10 dynasty QB is about as wrong as an opinion can get.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

where the heck is bradford on your lists! Talk about flavor of the week type rankings with some of you.

How quickly do you think the Rams can acquire an above-average OL, a play-making WR or two, and a RB to replace Jackson? Because that team is a mess. And if you've watched the Rams this year, you'd know that "talent over situation" might not apply here with Bradford, because no matter how good he looks, he's not going to be very FF relevant for a couple years. He can't overcome his current situation, and that has to be taken into account.