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Bulger should be somewhere between Brady and Hasselbeck, IMO.
Agreed
HOW????
He was the #4 ranked QB last season per FBG's scoring and is just coming into his prime. He's only 26.
When a guy is everyone's "SOD" 4 months before the draft, he's no longer the steal of the draft.He's in fact hugely overrated. 3 FBG experts rank Big Ben AHEAD of Rivers in QB dynasty rankings. Despite the fact Rivers 1st year, was better then any of Ben's 3 years. So not only are people expecting a huge jump in Ben's production, it seems they see Rivers slipping despite the fact it was his 1st year as a starter.So no, he's not the steal of the draft. He's going to be vastly overrated come draft time. (and the cat is out of the bag, he was QB10 last year. Everyone and their brother are on Bens nutz this year)
And now he has the premier talent of Joe Horn
Young will be top 5 on most lists by the end of the year.Take another look at his last six games if you are wondering how I could think this. You'll find they put him in the top 5 QBs over this stretch in any scoring system. Oh, he also downright struggled through two of these six games. The sky is the limit for Young's fantasy value. Remember that he wasn't even supposed to be ready to play in the NFL last year. And all Vick comparisons should stop at the point where it's brought up that VY has improved as a passer consistently throughout his career, and that VY's work ethic and dedication are much greater than Vick's .It will be fun watching the Young bandwagon fill up as the season approaches. I expect him to help a lot of teams win fantasy titles this year.
I think there's a tendency around here to give young players a bit too much credit. Consider that almost half of the players listed in the initial poster's top 12 were first year starters (Romo, Rivers, Leinart, Young, Cutler). I feel like this is an abnormally promising group, but I'm not going to assume that they're all going to become consistent producers just because they played pretty well out of the gate. Breaking it down individually:
GB not accounting for 2nd year slumps.Big Ben and Eli are 2 cases in point.Haven't done a study, but I bet after about 5-8 starts, defenses catch up with new QBs.Romo, VY and other new QB supporters be forewarned. I like VY, but I'm waiting a year to be a real buyer. He'll be overvalued this year, undervalued next.
If Tenn finds him a premier target at WR or 1 emerges, he very well could be undervalued this year.
Sure, a 2nd year slump could be the case. Fact is that he didn't get a chance to even throw all that much last season year. Campbell is being ranked in the 20's... think that is undervalued when he has performed as well as Cutler, etc.Fantasy-wise, hasn't Ben gotten better every year?ETA - I never said he would BE a top 10 QB, I said his numbers projected there... I think he'll definitely hit the top 15 range.
Leinart had an average of 14 points a game last year once he was the starter. That would have ranked him #12 (242 points scored in my scoring system). With a full offseason and a healthy Fitz for the whole year I would be shocked if he wasn't top 10 next year.EBF said:
Haven't checked the math, but didn't Ben have a bad year last year?
It may not be Leinart, but I'd expect defenses / DCs / players learn the 2nd yr QB's tendencies and defend them better. I'd expect a perceived drop in their value in year 2 - not all QBs, but some.Then I'd be a buyer on them.Eli Manning may be a strong buy now. he's certain to be the QB again this year and for years to come, and Toomer is back (and was very underappreciated).
Finished top 10, 3500+ yards
First your hair goes, then your game.
In redraft or Dynasty?matt jones said:
Even more important, Tim Carter is gone. There will actually be a 3rd WR on the field at times.
Roethlisberger and Vick for sure, probably Bulger, maybe McNabb. I would have expected 10 to be a low end ranking for Hasselbeck.A year ago, there was a thread like this for re-draft preseason and I remember consensus was that Hasselbeck was #3, with the most convincing argument put forward that he was a "safe" pick. He may not finish 3rd in pts, but he was the most likely to be in that range. In hindsight, well . . . but, applying the same logic to this ranking, I'd guess a few of the guys ahead of Hasselbeck rank higher on potential and that Hasselbeck will finish in the middle of such a pack.
Didn't both guys get to the playoffs in their 2nd yr in the league and didn't one of them become the youngest QB ever to win a SB in 2005.
3)Palmer4)Young5)Bulger6)McNabb7)Brady8)Leinart9)Brees10)Roethisburger11)Eli Manning12)Leftwich
