Dynasty Rankings (6 Viewers)

[thriftyrocker]

Thoughts on Knox and Massaqoui? Knox has been very impressive when he gets on the field, has tremendous speed, good hands, seems to be a good route runner, has 3 tds in 5 games (and a number of other redzone targets/opportunities) and a very good/stable QB situation. The only thing I don't like about his and his situation is the opportunity....he's in a job share with Bennett but looks better IMO and it's probably a matter of time until he surpasses him.Massaquoi I don't know a whole lot about except that he's on a terrible team with a bad QB situation. They basically have no one else to throw to and he's getting a lot of targets and looks pretty good over the past couple weeks.What's your opinions on their short term (this year) and longer term prospects?

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

 

[Banger]

Thoughts on Knox and Massaqoui? Knox has been very impressive when he gets on the field, has tremendous speed, good hands, seems to be a good route runner, has 3 tds in 5 games (and a number of other redzone targets/opportunities) and a very good/stable QB situation. The only thing I don't like about his and his situation is the opportunity....he's in a job share with Bennett but looks better IMO and it's probably a matter of time until he surpasses him.Massaquoi I don't know a whole lot about except that he's on a terrible team with a bad QB situation. They basically have no one else to throw to and he's getting a lot of targets and looks pretty good over the past couple weeks.What's your opinions on their short term (this year) and longer term prospects?

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

Your thoughts on Knox surprise me. Knox has been terrific for a rookie and the coaching staff and organization absolutely love the guy. In a short time he's gone from a bubble roster player to a time share starting WR pushing Bennett for the starting gig. When he's in there Cutler looks for him and Knox makes big plays.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

Your thoughts on Knox surprise me. Knox has been terrific for a rookie and the coaching staff and organization absolutely love the guy. In a short time he's gone from a bubble roster player to a time share starting WR pushing Bennett for the starting gig. When he's in there Cutler looks for him and Knox makes big plays.

I agree. I think Knox is much more than a low level talent. I like him more than Bennett by a quite a bit.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Curious on thoughts regarding Jacoby Jones going forward. I realize he is primarily being used as a KR/PR currently - although he is getting some looks in the offense and doing something with them. In terms of a dynasty WR in systems that don't give points for return yards (but get 6 if he takes it to the house), does it seem the Texans are looking to groom him to be the #2 at any point? Or will he always simply play the PR/KR with a dozen catches a season?

I think he's the perfect roster stash. He's a heck of a lot more talented than Kevin Walter, and the Texans coaches said he finally grew up this past offseason. I like my stashes to have the potential to be difference-makers when they finally get the opportunity. Jones has that potential, and I don't know how much longer Walter can hold him off.He was dropped in the FB Guys Dynasty Thread League last week and instantly went to No. 1 on my waiver priority this week. Unfortunately, that little S.O.B. (j/k) shader got to him first.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

How about Joe Flaco? It looked like it was going to be a situation where a talented player was going into the wrong situation; run heavy defensive team and no real star wideouts to throw too. All of sudden he's putting up 300 yard games and looks like the real deal. Last week he was getting pummeled by the Vikings but showed remarkable presence I thought. DO you feel he fits into the nucleus Dynasty QB situation?

Absolutely. Flacco is a stud. He's physically very gifted, and he certainly seems to have the intangibles at QB. Throw in a fantasy godsend like OC Cam Cameron, and it's a fantastic situation.

As a Cutler owner, I'll admit to being skeptical when your rankings had Flacco ahead of Cutler. After watching him play and seeing how much he's matured since last year I'm believing it now. I'm actually tempted to trade Cutler for him in my dynasty league because I think he's in a beter-coached, more balanced offense with a stronger defense. The guy just seems fluid and has a rocket-launcher for an arm.

Flacco has another advantage over Cutler: he's not a doucher.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

Your thoughts on Knox surprise me. Knox has been terrific for a rookie and the coaching staff and organization absolutely love the guy. In a short time he's gone from a bubble roster player to a time share starting WR pushing Bennett for the starting gig. When he's in there Cutler looks for him and Knox makes big plays.

I agree. I think Knox is much more than a low level talent. I like him more than Bennett by a quite a bit.

I see a slot receiver for a QB who doesn't throw to the slot receiver. He is having a great first year, I like him more than Bennett, and he has more potential to stick than Bennett. However, if they bring another WR in - presumably to take over for Bennett - I don't see Knox having any more value than he has now. He is not going to push Hester out of the playmaker role, and he's not a good match for Hester if they were to line up together in 2 WR sets. Devin Hester is signed through 2013. Very similar player to Steve Breaston, who I also don't value much.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

Your thoughts on Knox surprise me. Knox has been terrific for a rookie and the coaching staff and organization absolutely love the guy. In a short time he's gone from a bubble roster player to a time share starting WR pushing Bennett for the starting gig. When he's in there Cutler looks for him and Knox makes big plays.

I agree. I think Knox is much more than a low level talent. I like him more than Bennett by a quite a bit.

I see a slot receiver for a QB who doesn't throw to the slot receiver. He is having a great first year, I like him more than Bennett, and he has more potential to stick than Bennett. However, if they bring another WR in - presumably to take over for Bennett - I don't see Knox having any more value than he has now. He is not going to push Hester out of the playmaker role, and he's not a good match for Hester if they were to line up together in 2 WR sets. Devin Hester is signed through 2013. Very similar player to Steve Breaston, who I also don't value much.

Tough to see a player with his lethal speed being limited to the slot receiver role. I'm not so sure that Hester will be able to hold him off long term. Knox already seems like a more complete receiver to me ... which was surprising considering his college competition and low draft spot. He seems very savvy for a rookie.

 

[Banger]

I think now's a good time to sell Knox and Bennett. Not that you will get much for them other than in a package deal for an upgrade at another position, but I think they are low level talents that are easily replaced. Given how much the Bears are passing, I think the team will see the need to replace them next year. They are low #3s for the rest of the year, and really they need to be lucky to get any higher than that in the future. Massaquoi projects higher. He has the talent to stay a #1 WR. He is benefiting from the talent vacuum in Cleveland a little bit. That also helps him though, because Cleveland has so many needs, they're not going to blow coin or picks on more WRs. He should be the #1 option there next year too. The questions with him were hands and whether he'd be ready to contribute. The latter is answered. Hands might still be an issue, but if he gets targeted as much as he is now, it doesn't matter to fantasy owners. Seems to be a smart player who will work hard - high #3 for the rest of the year with mid #2 upside.

Your thoughts on Knox surprise me. Knox has been terrific for a rookie and the coaching staff and organization absolutely love the guy. In a short time he's gone from a bubble roster player to a time share starting WR pushing Bennett for the starting gig. When he's in there Cutler looks for him and Knox makes big plays.

I agree. I think Knox is much more than a low level talent. I like him more than Bennett by a quite a bit.

I see a slot receiver for a QB who doesn't throw to the slot receiver. He is having a great first year, I like him more than Bennett, and he has more potential to stick than Bennett. However, if they bring another WR in - presumably to take over for Bennett - I don't see Knox having any more value than he has now. He is not going to push Hester out of the playmaker role, and he's not a good match for Hester if they were to line up together in 2 WR sets. Devin Hester is signed through 2013. Very similar player to Steve Breaston, who I also don't value much.

he's been making more plays and has more Tds than Hester does and only a couple fewer receptions.

 

[mcintyre1]

I could use some advice on trading in my dynasty league.

My team is absolute crap, really, aside from Drew Brees. However, by sheer luck of the FF gods, I'm 5-1 going into this week. I've started putting out offers of my 1st round pick this year for younger players that are starting to break out (or may soon). IE. I just put out a trade that's my 1st for Mendenhall. Likely will be rejected, but do you guys agree with my thinking here? I figure that since I'm already 5-1, even if I lose the rest of my games I'll be in the middle of the 1st at best, and I don't particularly like the guys that will be available in that range next year.

ETA: And if you do agree with this strategy, any advice on potential trade targets?

 

[thatguy]

I could use some advice on trading in my dynasty league.My team is absolute crap, really, aside from Drew Brees. However, by sheer luck of the FF gods, I'm 5-1 going into this week. I've started putting out offers of my 1st round pick this year for younger players that are starting to break out (or may soon). IE. I just put out a trade that's my 1st for Mendenhall. Likely will be rejected, but do you guys agree with my thinking here? I figure that since I'm already 5-1, even if I lose the rest of my games I'll be in the middle of the 1st at best, and I don't particularly like the guys that will be available in that range next year.ETA: And if you do agree with this strategy, any advice on potential trade targets?

I think it really depends on just how bad your team is outside of Brees. If it's God awful and your having made it to 5-1 has been nothing short of miraculous, I wouldn't start trading picks away UNLESS I was getting fair value for them. I think Mendenhall would be fair value, so that's a fine offer. But I don't see anyone giving you that kind of talent for what projects to be a mid first round draft pick. Unless you can get someone who projects to be a surefire difference maker for years to come, hold tight. You really are in a tough spot, but I think you'll just have the ride the wave and see where it takes you, because I don't see anyone giving you the kind of players you're looking for with the draft picks you have to offer.

 

[thatguy]

That said, it certainly can't hurt to throw a bunch of feelers out there to owners of players you really like down the road and see what kind of response you get... Mendenhall is a good start. I would also target Rice (will be almost impossible to get, but worth a shot), Stewart (see Rice), MAYBE McFadden (SSOG is high on him and he's a smart guy - me, not so much, but it ultimately depends on how you view him). Others that you are more likely to have some luck with are Nicks, Crabtree (hard to say, depends on his owner), Harvin (see Crabtree). You might also offer some second rounders for guys like Manningham. Again, most of these offers will likely be turned down, but you never know. Throw a bunch of feelers out there and see if you get any bites.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I could use some advice on trading in my dynasty league.My team is absolute crap, really, aside from Drew Brees. However, by sheer luck of the FF gods, I'm 5-1 going into this week. I've started putting out offers of my 1st round pick this year for younger players that are starting to break out (or may soon). IE. I just put out a trade that's my 1st for Mendenhall. Likely will be rejected, but do you guys agree with my thinking here? I figure that since I'm already 5-1, even if I lose the rest of my games I'll be in the middle of the 1st at best, and I don't particularly like the guys that will be available in that range next year.ETA: And if you do agree with this strategy, any advice on potential trade targets?

I definitely agree with that strategy. Looking at the RBs, at 5-1 I doubt you'll get anyone in tier 4. Maybe a frustrated Felix or DMAC owner.After that, I would target the younger guys in tier 5: Greene, Bradshaw, Addai, and Choice. The last 3 have the look of "sell high" players but might not be. [edit]Addai mostly if you want to try for this year[/edit]I would consider doing it for MBush in tier 6 as well.For WRs, the only guy I can think of that might be worth it is Royal. Next year is a good WR class so if you are targeting WRs, you might just hold.

 

[mcintyre1]

Thanks for the advice so far guys.

The rest of my starters read as follows:

RB Ricky Williams

RB Pierre Thomas

RB Larry Johnson

WR Ochocinco

WR Desean Jackson

WR Berrian

TE Heath Miller

and my depth after that is pretty awful.

So yeah, I consider it blind miraculous luck to be 5-1 (best record in the league) at this point in the season.

Mendenhall offer was rejected, might get a counter.

Rice is untouchable here... he's the #2 RB at the moment on a team that is weak at the position. Really the only other option I've seen so far is McFadden, who I'll probably shoot an offer for soon.

 

[SSOG]

Curious on thoughts regarding Jacoby Jones going forward. I realize he is primarily being used as a KR/PR currently - although he is getting some looks in the offense and doing something with them. In terms of a dynasty WR in systems that don't give points for return yards (but get 6 if he takes it to the house), does it seem the Texans are looking to groom him to be the #2 at any point? Or will he always simply play the PR/KR with a dozen catches a season?

There's a bit of discussion on him here.Personally, I think he has great upside. He was a thread favorite back when he was a rookie (I remember hoping to get Jacoby Jones with my 3rd round pick, but having him go a few picks before me and having to "settle" for James Jones, instead). He's got the tools to be a starting WR at the NFL level, and like I said about Hester, Breaston, and Royal... punt return skills frequently translate well for WRs. He's no sure thing, but he's got great upside.

Great information in here guys. F&L and SSOG do you see any chance of Matt Moore having value next year & beyond if he takes over in Carolina? Looking at this as nothing more than a dynasty stash and hope.

There are always guys like Henne, Schaub, Rodgers, Rivers, and Palmer who can't see the field for their first years in the league, but then wind up taking over and going gangbusters (well, I'm projecting for Henne). I always try to be on the lookout for players potentially in that position, which means maybe I should be paying attention to Moore... but all of the guys I mentioned before were being held off by pro bowl QBs. Schaub and Rodgers were stuck behind the face of the franchise. Rivers was stuck behind an All Pro. The worst of the five QBs were Chad Pennington and John Kitna, but even both of those guys were quality NFL QBs, and they both had trouble holding the young guy back, too. Matt Moore can't see the field over Jake Delhomme. That's a major negative.The other thing about the 5 QBs I mentioned is that they were all viewed by their respective franchises as very good QBs coming out. Rodgers was a first rounder. Rivers was the #5 overall. Palmer was the #1 overall. Henne was a 2nd rounder. Even Schaub was a 3rd rounder. Matt Moore? Undrafted free agent. That, to me, doesn't suggest "successor to be groomed" so much as it suggests "live arm should the starter get hurt".

If you want to stash and pray, then Moore might be worth a shot, but I'm really, really down on him.

I see a slot receiver for a QB who doesn't throw to the slot receiver. He is having a great first year, I like him more than Bennett, and he has more potential to stick than Bennett. However, if they bring another WR in - presumably to take over for Bennett - I don't see Knox having any more value than he has now. He is not going to push Hester out of the playmaker role, and he's not a good match for Hester if they were to line up together in 2 WR sets. Devin Hester is signed through 2013. Very similar player to Steve Breaston, who I also don't value much.

Who says Jay Cutler doesn't throw to his slot receiver? Stokley was Cutler's go-to guy on 3rd downs the last two years in Denver. And who says that Knox is strictly a slot WR? He's looked pretty polished as an all-around receiver to me. I don't think he can overtake Hester (I'm higher on Hester than F&L does- you want to talk about being surprised at how polished Knox is after poor competition in college, let's talk about being surprised at how polished Hester is after less than two years at WR). With that said, I don't think Earl Bennett will pose any real problems.

 

[Knobs]

That's not a bad team at all.

 

[SSOG]

Thanks for the advice so far guys.The rest of my starters read as follows:RB Ricky WilliamsRB Pierre ThomasRB Larry JohnsonWR OchocincoWR Desean JacksonWR BerrianTE Heath Millerand my depth after that is pretty awful.So yeah, I consider it blind miraculous luck to be 5-1 (best record in the league) at this point in the season. Mendenhall offer was rejected, might get a counter. Rice is untouchable here... he's the #2 RB at the moment on a team that is weak at the position. Really the only other option I've seen so far is McFadden, who I'll probably shoot an offer for soon.

You're dramatically underrating your team. Your RBs aren't so hot, but Williams and Thomas are both RB2 guys going forward, and you can live with a pair of RB2s since you've got Brees holding you up. Ocho and DeSean are both great wide receivers. You're not any sort of worldbeater, but I'd hardly call you a terrible team that's built a 5-1 record on smoke and mirrors.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Thanks for the advice so far guys.The rest of my starters read as follows:RB Ricky WilliamsRB Pierre ThomasRB Larry JohnsonWR OchocincoWR Desean JacksonWR BerrianTE Heath Millerand my depth after that is pretty awful.So yeah, I consider it blind miraculous luck to be 5-1 (best record in the league) at this point in the season. Mendenhall offer was rejected, might get a counter. Rice is untouchable here... he's the #2 RB at the moment on a team that is weak at the position. Really the only other option I've seen so far is McFadden, who I'll probably shoot an offer for soon.

Have you considered that your trading window hasn't opened up yet? I find myself in this situation all the time, ready to make a move only to flip the other rosters around in my head and find that nothing matches up well this week. It's the NFL, though. If you don't see anything that pops out as a fitting trade for both parties, wait a week and the whole trading landscape will have changed. For the record, though, I'd have no problem giving up a No. 1 in your shoes. The only problem I see is that you're kind of throwing darts blindfolded here. Study up and get the guy you want -- not the guy who is left standing after all of your top choices have been eliminated.

 

[mcintyre1]

I could use some advice on trading in my dynasty league.My team is absolute crap, really, aside from Drew Brees. However, by sheer luck of the FF gods, I'm 5-1 going into this week. I've started putting out offers of my 1st round pick this year for younger players that are starting to break out (or may soon). IE. I just put out a trade that's my 1st for Mendenhall. Likely will be rejected, but do you guys agree with my thinking here? I figure that since I'm already 5-1, even if I lose the rest of my games I'll be in the middle of the 1st at best, and I don't particularly like the guys that will be available in that range next year.ETA: And if you do agree with this strategy, any advice on potential trade targets?

I definitely agree with that strategy. Looking at the RBs, at 5-1 I doubt you'll get anyone in tier 4. Maybe a frustrated Felix or DMAC owner.After that, I would target the younger guys in tier 5: Greene, Bradshaw, Addai, and Choice. The last 3 have the look of "sell high" players but might not be. [edit]Addai mostly if you want to try for this year[/edit]I would consider doing it for MBush in tier 6 as well.For WRs, the only guy I can think of that might be worth it is Royal. Next year is a good WR class so if you are targeting WRs, you might just hold.

I definitely agree about WRs at this point. I feel like I could pick up a very good WR prospect with my pick in next years draft, but I'm terrified of my aging (and frail) RB group. Greene is an interesting choice, but Thomas Jones doesn't seem to be slowing down much at this point. Is he a FA after this season?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

There are always guys like Henne, Schaub, Rodgers, Rivers, and Palmer who can't see the field for their first years in the league, but then wind up taking over and going gangbusters (well, I'm projecting for Henne). I always try to be on the lookout for players potentially in that position, which means maybe I should be paying attention to Moore... but all of the guys I mentioned before were being held off by pro bowl QBs. Schaub and Rodgers were stuck behind the face of the franchise. Rivers was stuck behind an All Pro. The worst of the five QBs were Chad Pennington and John Kitna, but even both of those guys were quality NFL QBs, and they both had trouble holding the young guy back, too. Matt Moore can't see the field over Jake Delhomme. That's a major negative.The other thing about the 5 QBs I mentioned is that they were all viewed by their respective franchises as very good QBs coming out. Rodgers was a first rounder. Rivers was the #5 overall. Palmer was the #1 overall. Henne was a 2nd rounder. Even Schaub was a 3rd rounder. Matt Moore? Undrafted free agent. That, to me, doesn't suggest "successor to be groomed" so much as it suggests "live arm should the starter get hurt".If you want to stash and pray, then Moore might be worth a shot, but I'm really, really down on him.

My sentiments almost to a tee. Also, re: Hester. I'm also very impressed that he's taken to WR so smoothly after having so little experience there. I like him, I just don't know what his career arc will look like. Is he going to graduate from deep threat to go-to WR?

 

[mcintyre1]

Have you considered that your trading window hasn't opened up yet? I find myself in this situation all the time, ready to make a move only to flip the other rosters around in my head and find that nothing matches up well this week. It's the NFL, though. If you don't see anything that pops out as a fitting trade for both parties, wait a week and the whole trading landscape will have changed. For the record, though, I'd have no problem giving up a No. 1 in your shoes. The only problem I see is that you're kind of throwing darts blindfolded here. Study up and get the guy you want -- not the guy who is left standing after all of your top choices have been eliminated.

That's a great point... I'm really not sold on the guys that I feel would be available at this point in time... I wish I had a crystal ball and would have offered the 1st for Mendenhall back a few weeks.Looking over the possibilities, I'm thinking I might hold back and wait for a better opportunity.

 

[mcintyre1]

You're dramatically underrating your team. Your RBs aren't so hot, but Williams and Thomas are both RB2 guys going forward, and you can live with a pair of RB2s since you've got Brees holding you up. Ocho and DeSean are both great wide receivers. You're not any sort of worldbeater, but I'd hardly call you a terrible team that's built a 5-1 record on smoke and mirrors.

I suppose they aren't as bad as they could be, but I'm worried about all 3 of my RBs for Dynasty purposes. Williams is certainly aging and could "fall off the cliff" so to speak at any moment. He was actually a WW pickup just before the season. Thomas was the only RB I felt good about, but his injuries and the lack of confidence Payton has shown in him are wearing on my enthusiasm. LJ continues to get the carries, but its just not there anymore.I am relatively happy with my WRs, but Berrian and Ginn have been having rough years, so I'm afraid of my depth at the position.

 

[thriftyrocker]

I definitely agree about WRs at this point. I feel like I could pick up a very good WR prospect with my pick in next years draft, but I'm terrified of my aging (and frail) RB group. Greene is an interesting choice, but Thomas Jones doesn't seem to be slowing down much at this point. Is he a FA after this season?

Not a cap expert, but this screams "cut"From Rotoworld:

Contract Information for Thomas Jones 3/6/2007: Signed a four-year, $20 million contract. The deal includes $12 million guaranteed. 2009: $900,000 (+ $100,000 workout bonus), 2010: $2.8 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $3 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the league year), 2011: Free Agent

 

[SSOG]

That's a great point... I'm really not sold on the guys that I feel would be available at this point in time... I wish I had a crystal ball and would have offered the 1st for Mendenhall back a few weeks.Looking over the possibilities, I'm thinking I might hold back and wait for a better opportunity.

Offer your first for McFadden and see if you can get a bite. I know a lot of owners are jumping ship, but I rank McFadden pretty much neck and neck with Mendenhall.

Also, re: Hester. I'm also very impressed that he's taken to WR so smoothly after having so little experience there. I like him, I just don't know what his career arc will look like. Is he going to graduate from deep threat to go-to WR?

I'm banking on it. Like I said, Hester's punt returns show that he's just too, too, too good with the ball in his hands for the Bears not to continue working on getting the ball in his hands. That's what they switched him to WR in the first place for. They essentially gave up the best returner in the history of the NFL based on Hester's potential as a WR, and if the Bears are willing to make that gamble, then so am I.I traded Westbrook and a 2nd to get Hester this past offseason. Now, again, I'm in a league that rewards punt return yardage (which means an extra 200-250 yards a year for Hester), which I felt really gave me a nice safety net (even if Hester only becomes an 800 yard receiver, his punt returns make him as valuable as a 1,000 yard receiver)... but I've still got visions of his upside dancing in my head. Imagine: a go-to Cutler WR with those open-field moves... it'd be a thing of beauty. Well, it's already pretty beautiful- Hester is WR15 in PPG in my league, and would easily be top 10 if he hadn't gotten injured early against Detroit.FBGs really needs a atselfonback: smiley. Heck, I'd even settle for an :insufferablysmug: smiley.

 

[Banger]

I definitely agree about WRs at this point. I feel like I could pick up a very good WR prospect with my pick in next years draft, but I'm terrified of my aging (and frail) RB group. Greene is an interesting choice, but Thomas Jones doesn't seem to be slowing down much at this point. Is he a FA after this season?

Not a cap expert, but this screams "cut"From Rotoworld:

Contract Information for Thomas Jones 3/6/2007: Signed a four-year, $20 million contract. The deal includes $12 million guaranteed. 2009: $900,000 (+ $100,000 workout bonus), 2010: $2.8 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $3 million roster bonus due on the fifth day of the league year), 2011: Free Agent

It's pretty much a given that Jones is gone after this year. He wanted a new deal and the team basically refused to give him one while they offered a $5+ mill/year offer to Washington and drafted Greene. Jones had a nice game vs. one of the worst rush defenses but that won't change anything long term. They will turn the page after this year.

 

[ex-ghost]

Lots of talk about McFadden. How does Bush figure in? Is he worth a mid-round pick to stash? Read that he got hurt in the Philly game, that is why he did not get many carries.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I'm banking on it. Like I said, Hester's punt returns show that he's just too, too, too good with the ball in his hands for the Bears not to continue working on getting the ball in his hands. That's what they switched him to WR in the first place for. They essentially gave up the best returner in the history of the NFL based on Hester's potential as a WR, and if the Bears are willing to make that gamble, then so am I.I traded Westbrook and a 2nd to get Hester this past offseason. Now, again, I'm in a league that rewards punt return yardage (which means an extra 200-250 yards a year for Hester), which I felt really gave me a nice safety net (even if Hester only becomes an 800 yard receiver, his punt returns make him as valuable as a 1,000 yard receiver)... but I've still got visions of his upside dancing in my head. Imagine: a go-to Cutler WR with those open-field moves... it'd be a thing of beauty. Well, it's already pretty beautiful- Hester is WR15 in PPG in my league, and would easily be top 10 if he hadn't gotten injured early against Detroit.FBGs really needs a atselfonback: smiley. Heck, I'd even settle for an :insufferablysmug: smiley.

Updating WRs right now. He just moved up a tier.

 

[BradtheAg]

i have an opportunity to move barber for ssmith CAR but i can't pull the trigger. before you blast me, i know F&L's rankings scream for me to make this deal, but both of FBG's most recent dynasty rankings have barber ahead of ssmith. my roster looks like:

sjax

ray rice

barber

beanie wells

jerious norwood

dwayne bowe

santonio holmes

donald driver

ssmith NYG

crabtree

my fear is moving barber and being stuck with beanie wells as my RB2 in weeks 7 and 9 when rice and sjax (respectively) are on their byes. i'm very comfortable with wells moving in to future years, but giving up wins in weeks 7/9 due to his current poor production could be devastating to my season this year. also, the scoring is somewhat TD heavy and barber remains the goal line back in dallas even though he's going to continue losing touches to jones/choice.

should i just man up and pull the trigger? is that the shark move? i'm nervous just thinking about it. experts - please help!

 

[WFR]

How about Joe Flaco? It looked like it was going to be a situation where a talented player was going into the wrong situation; run heavy defensive team and no real star wideouts to throw too. All of sudden he's putting up 300 yard games and looks like the real deal. Last week he was getting pummeled by the Vikings but showed remarkable presence I thought. DO you feel he fits into the nucleus Dynasty QB situation?

Absolutely. Flacco is a stud. He's physically very gifted, and he certainly seems to have the intangibles at QB. Throw in a fantasy godsend like OC Cam Cameron, and it's a fantastic situation.

As a Cutler owner, I'll admit to being skeptical when your rankings had Flacco ahead of Cutler. After watching him play and seeing how much he's matured since last year I'm believing it now. I'm actually tempted to trade Cutler for him in my dynasty league because I think he's in a beter-coached, more balanced offense with a stronger defense. The guy just seems fluid and has a rocket-launcher for an arm.

Flacco has another advantage over Cutler: he's not a doucher.

You owe me a keyboard! I spit diet coke everywhere, laughing when I read that!

 

[Mr. Peterson]

I'm banking on it. Like I said, Hester's punt returns show that he's just too, too, too good with the ball in his hands for the Bears not to continue working on getting the ball in his hands. That's what they switched him to WR in the first place for. They essentially gave up the best returner in the history of the NFL based on Hester's potential as a WR, and if the Bears are willing to make that gamble, then so am I.I traded Westbrook and a 2nd to get Hester this past offseason. Now, again, I'm in a league that rewards punt return yardage (which means an extra 200-250 yards a year for Hester), which I felt really gave me a nice safety net (even if Hester only becomes an 800 yard receiver, his punt returns make him as valuable as a 1,000 yard receiver)... but I've still got visions of his upside dancing in my head. Imagine: a go-to Cutler WR with those open-field moves... it'd be a thing of beauty. Well, it's already pretty beautiful- Hester is WR15 in PPG in my league, and would easily be top 10 if he hadn't gotten injured early against Detroit.FBGs really needs a atselfonback: smiley. Heck, I'd even settle for an :insufferablysmug: smiley.

Updating WRs right now. He just moved up a tier.

Was just checking out the new WR rankings and noticed Nate Burleson hasn't moved up at all. He's currently a top 15 WR (Zealots scoring) and you have him ranked 50th. Is there a reason for it? Is he just a product of the system at Seattle?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I'm banking on it. Like I said, Hester's punt returns show that he's just too, too, too good with the ball in his hands for the Bears not to continue working on getting the ball in his hands. That's what they switched him to WR in the first place for. They essentially gave up the best returner in the history of the NFL based on Hester's potential as a WR, and if the Bears are willing to make that gamble, then so am I.I traded Westbrook and a 2nd to get Hester this past offseason. Now, again, I'm in a league that rewards punt return yardage (which means an extra 200-250 yards a year for Hester), which I felt really gave me a nice safety net (even if Hester only becomes an 800 yard receiver, his punt returns make him as valuable as a 1,000 yard receiver)... but I've still got visions of his upside dancing in my head. Imagine: a go-to Cutler WR with those open-field moves... it'd be a thing of beauty. Well, it's already pretty beautiful- Hester is WR15 in PPG in my league, and would easily be top 10 if he hadn't gotten injured early against Detroit.FBGs really needs a atselfonback: smiley. Heck, I'd even settle for an :insufferablysmug: smiley.

Updating WRs right now. He just moved up a tier.

Was just checking out the new WR rankings and noticed Nate Burleson hasn't moved up at all. He's currently a top 15 WR (Zealots scoring) and you have him ranked 50th. Is there a reason for it? Is he just a product of the system at Seattle?

Because I don't expect him to be a Top-15 WR all season?He moved up a little bit. I just think he'll be a borderline WR3 going forward ... and considering his track record, just how valuable is that?

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

i like how you have the 1st 2 tiers F&L.

no quibbles here on anythng.

 

[mcintyre1]

So forget everything I just said about waiting.

Picked up McFadden for my 1st.

 

[Dug565]

F&L, just wondering why you dropped Jared Cook down your rankings. I saw you had him as a potential deep pickup due to the Titans terrible record. Is this just a case of the guys behind him in the rankings showing up on the field? Or are you worried about his prospects?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

F&L, just wondering why you dropped Jared Cook down your rankings. I saw you had him as a potential deep pickup due to the Titans terrible record. Is this just a case of the guys behind him in the rankings showing up on the field? Or are you worried about his prospects?

No, not worried. Just a slight move down with talented guys like Scheffler, Heap, et al. playing well. It probably depends on how deep your league is.

 

[EBF]

Would like to see Andre Caldwell a little higher. I have him on some of my teams and I wouldn't trade him for Berrian, Massaquoi, Ginn, Manningham, Moore, Wallace, etc. I think he's much more likely to develop into a reliable weekly starter.

I think people are overlooking how well he has played this season and IMO he's one of the more underrated developmental dynasty WRs out there right now. He has a legit frame, 4.3 speed, good route running skills, and reliable hands. He's quickly becoming an important piece of Cincy's passing game and looks like he could definitely fill the Houshmanzadeh role for the next few seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kMfnOTWC7Q

 

[Homer]

F&L, I also quibble with your WR rankings, me over Miles Austin. Granted it was ONE HUGE game, but that's a high flying Cowboys O waiting to be unleashed, and you have him lower than other one week wonders with hopelessly lost O's like Massaquoi and waaaay lower than college wonders in ridiculously limited pass O's like Crabtree. Maybe most importantly, you have Austin < Williams on his own team, and Williams is a guy, if i recall correctly, you usually HATE.

I think Austin should be a good 10-13 spots higher in your rankings.

 

[Homer]

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

 

[valhallan]

Quite a precipitous drop for Josh Morgan. Is this simply due to the Crabtree signing or have you also soured on his ability?

 

[Retire_Already_Oscar]

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

What is there not to get? Chad is playing at all All-Pro level.Odds he outpoints Austin in 2010 & 2011, pretty damn good if he remains in Cincy.

 

[DoubleG]

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

What is there not to get? Chad is playing at all All-Pro level.Odds he outpoints Austin in 2010 & 2011, pretty damn good if he remains in Cincy.

Also, Chad has done it before (produced at an elite level) - Austin has not (save for one game). That's not to say Austin won't - but Chad has a track record of success - especially with Palmer under center.

 

[SSOG]

i have an opportunity to move barber for ssmith CAR but i can't pull the trigger. before you blast me, i know F&L's rankings scream for me to make this deal, but both of FBG's most recent dynasty rankings have barber ahead of ssmith. my roster looks like:

sjax

ray rice

barber

beanie wells

jerious norwood

dwayne bowe

santonio holmes

donald driver

ssmith NYG

crabtree

my fear is moving barber and being stuck with beanie wells as my RB2 in weeks 7 and 9 when rice and sjax (respectively) are on their byes. i'm very comfortable with wells moving in to future years, but giving up wins in weeks 7/9 due to his current poor production could be devastating to my season this year. also, the scoring is somewhat TD heavy and barber remains the goal line back in dallas even though he's going to continue losing touches to jones/choice.

should i just man up and pull the trigger? is that the shark move? i'm nervous just thinking about it. experts - please help!

Here are my thoughts on the subject:Marion Barber is in a dogfight for carries with two guys who are both younger and cheaper. Steve Smith is so good that a team once thought the best defensive strategy would be to just triple cover him for an entire game.

</thoughts on the subject>

Would like to see Andre Caldwell a little higher. I have him on some of my teams and I wouldn't trade him for Berrian, Massaquoi, Ginn, Manningham, Moore, Wallace, etc. I think he's much more likely to develop into a reliable weekly starter.

I think people are overlooking how well he has played this season and IMO he's one of the more underrated developmental dynasty WRs out there right now. He has a legit frame, 4.3 speed, good route running skills, and reliable hands. He's quickly becoming an important piece of Cincy's passing game and looks like he could definitely fill the Houshmanzadeh role for the next few seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kMfnOTWC7Q

Agreed on every single point you made and every single name you listed. Also, I'd add Knox and Avery to the list of young WRs I'd take Caldwell over.

F&L, I also quibble with your WR rankings, me over Miles Austin. Granted it was ONE HUGE game, but that's a high flying Cowboys O waiting to be unleashed, and you have him lower than other one week wonders with hopelessly lost O's like Massaquoi and waaaay lower than college wonders in ridiculously limited pass O's like Crabtree. Maybe most importantly, you have Austin < Williams on his own team, and Williams is a guy, if i recall correctly, you usually HATE.

I think Austin should be a good 10-13 spots higher in your rankings.

Miles Austin is a 4th year WR. Coming into this season, he had 18 career receptions. Coming into his last game, he had 5 receptions. He's a one trick pony. He's struggled for years to beat out Patrick Freaking Crayton. If you compare his career to date, it'll look pretty much identical to Frisman Jackson's.Meanwhile, Crabtree was arguably the best WR prospect of the decade this side of Fitz, Calvin, and Charles Rodgers. Massoquai was another guy F&L was high on coming out of college (and one game wonder who you were previously high on trumps one game wonder you previously thought was total junk). As for Austin vs. Williams... Austin can't beat out Williams for the #1 WR job, so why on earth should he be worth more?

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

Now this is just insanity. Chad Ochocinco is 31. Yeah, he's still going to be a stud in 2010. He's still going to be a stud in 2011. Heck, he's still going to be a stud in 2012. Miles Austin, on the other hand, will never be a stud. Never.Ochocinco has topped 1150 6 times in his career (and he's a near lock to do it a 7th this year, barring injury). He's topped 1250 yards 5 times. He's topped 1350 yards 4 times. Miles Austin will likely never in his career top 1350 yards, not even once.

 

[Homer]

i have an opportunity to move barber for ssmith CAR but i can't pull the trigger. before you blast me, i know F&L's rankings scream for me to make this deal, but both of FBG's most recent dynasty rankings have barber ahead of ssmith. my roster looks like:

sjax

ray rice

barber

beanie wells

jerious norwood

dwayne bowe

santonio holmes

donald driver

ssmith NYG

crabtree

my fear is moving barber and being stuck with beanie wells as my RB2 in weeks 7 and 9 when rice and sjax (respectively) are on their byes. i'm very comfortable with wells moving in to future years, but giving up wins in weeks 7/9 due to his current poor production could be devastating to my season this year. also, the scoring is somewhat TD heavy and barber remains the goal line back in dallas even though he's going to continue losing touches to jones/choice.

should i just man up and pull the trigger? is that the shark move? i'm nervous just thinking about it. experts - please help!

Here are my thoughts on the subject:Marion Barber is in a dogfight for carries with two guys who are both younger and cheaper. Steve Smith is so good that a team once thought the best defensive strategy would be to just triple cover him for an entire game.

</thoughts on the subject>

Would like to see Andre Caldwell a little higher. I have him on some of my teams and I wouldn't trade him for Berrian, Massaquoi, Ginn, Manningham, Moore, Wallace, etc. I think he's much more likely to develop into a reliable weekly starter.

I think people are overlooking how well he has played this season and IMO he's one of the more underrated developmental dynasty WRs out there right now. He has a legit frame, 4.3 speed, good route running skills, and reliable hands. He's quickly becoming an important piece of Cincy's passing game and looks like he could definitely fill the Houshmanzadeh role for the next few seasons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kMfnOTWC7Q

Agreed on every single point you made and every single name you listed. Also, I'd add Knox and Avery to the list of young WRs I'd take Caldwell over.

F&L, I also quibble with your WR rankings, me over Miles Austin. Granted it was ONE HUGE game, but that's a high flying Cowboys O waiting to be unleashed, and you have him lower than other one week wonders with hopelessly lost O's like Massaquoi and waaaay lower than college wonders in ridiculously limited pass O's like Crabtree. Maybe most importantly, you have Austin < Williams on his own team, and Williams is a guy, if i recall correctly, you usually HATE.

I think Austin should be a good 10-13 spots higher in your rankings.

Miles Austin is a 4th year WR. Coming into this season, he had 18 career receptions. Coming into his last game, he had 5 receptions. He's a one trick pony. He's struggled for years to beat out Patrick Freaking Crayton. If you compare his career to date, it'll look pretty much identical to Frisman Jackson's.Meanwhile, Crabtree was arguably the best WR prospect of the decade this side of Fitz, Calvin, and Charles Rodgers. Massoquai was another guy F&L was high on coming out of college (and one game wonder who you were previously high on trumps one game wonder you previously thought was total junk). As for Austin vs. Williams... Austin can't beat out Williams for the #1 WR job, so why on earth should he be worth more?

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

Now this is just insanity. Chad Ochocinco is 31. Yeah, he's still going to be a stud in 2010. He's still going to be a stud in 2011. Heck, he's still going to be a stud in 2012. Miles Austin, on the other hand, will never be a stud. Never.Ochocinco has topped 1150 6 times in his career (and he's a near lock to do it a 7th this year, barring injury). He's topped 1250 yards 5 times. He's topped 1350 yards 4 times. Miles Austin will likely never in his career top 1350 yards, not even once.

Sure, the track record seems screwy, but like it or not, Austin is pretty clearly a #1 WR in a far superior pass offense? How could he NOT get 1050 yards and 7+ TD's? What's 85 gonna put up this year, 1200 and 7? And next? and next?And that's a top 12 dynasty guy into his mid-30's on the worst franchise east of the Mississippi?

 

[benm3218]

Sure, the track record seems screwy, but like it or not, Austin is pretty clearly a #1 WR in a far superior pass offense? How could he NOT get 1050 yards and 7+ TD's? What's 85 gonna put up this year, 1200 and 7? And next? and next?And that's a top 12 dynasty guy into his mid-30's on the worst franchise east of the Mississippi?

Ok, I get it now. This is joke. LOL good one.

 

[Homer]

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

Now this is just insanity. Chad Ochocinco is 31. Yeah, he's still going to be a stud in 2010. He's still going to be a stud in 2011. Heck, he's still going to be a stud in 2012. Miles Austin, on the other hand, will never be a stud. Never.Ochocinco has topped 1150 6 times in his career (and he's a near lock to do it a 7th this year, barring injury). He's topped 1250 yards 5 times. He's topped 1350 yards 4 times. Miles Austin will likely never in his career top 1350 yards, not even once.

Same crap was spouted after Romo's night/day turnaround from Bledsoe his first year starting: "He has no pedigree, he's been useless for YEARS, blah, blah, blah". I clearly remember taking F&L to task for ranking Romo behind such "proven vets" like Alex Smith and Jon Kitna.85 may be a fine NFL WR for a long damd time. But he has ZERO upside over what he's producing right now. And we've SEEN the downside last year and countless times with aging prima donna WR's.

 

[SSOG]

Sure, the track record seems screwy, but like it or not, Austin is pretty clearly a #1 WR in a far superior pass offense? How could he NOT get 1050 yards and 7+ TD's? What's 85 gonna put up this year, 1200 and 7? And next? and next?And that's a top 12 dynasty guy into his mid-30's on the worst franchise east of the Mississippi?

Austin's not the #1. He hasn't been able to wrest the #1 job away from Roy Williams (who, as you noted, we're very down on). He barely managed to wrest the #2 job away from Patrick Crayton. Also, that whole "SOMEBODY has to catch the ball!" thing never works. That's the worst reason to draft a receiver even in redraft. In Dynasty, it's a recipe for total disaster. Draft on talent, not on "well, who else is he going to throw to?", especially when there are already 3 comparable or better receivers in town (Roy Williams, who Austin can't beat out, Jason Witten, and Patrick Crayton, who Austin barely beat out).Also, in case you missed it, the Bengals are 4-2 with wins over Pittsburgh, Green Bay, and Baltimore, and a hail-mary loss to the 6-0 Broncos. That's the worst franchise east of the Mississippi? Huh?

 

[benm3218]

Another comparison, IF Chad Johnson does outpoint Austin this year, what are the chances he does in 2010? 2011? Yet 85 is ranked as an elite dynasty WR? I don't get it...

Now this is just insanity. Chad Ochocinco is 31. Yeah, he's still going to be a stud in 2010. He's still going to be a stud in 2011. Heck, he's still going to be a stud in 2012. Miles Austin, on the other hand, will never be a stud. Never.Ochocinco has topped 1150 6 times in his career (and he's a near lock to do it a 7th this year, barring injury). He's topped 1250 yards 5 times. He's topped 1350 yards 4 times. Miles Austin will likely never in his career top 1350 yards, not even once.

Same crap was spouted after Romo's night/day turnaround from Bledsoe his first year starting: "He has no pedigree, he's been useless for YEARS, blah, blah, blah". I clearly remember taking F&L to task for ranking Romo behind such "proven vets" like Alex Smith and Jon Kitna.85 may be a fine NFL WR for a long damd time. But he has ZERO upside over what he's producing right now. And we've SEEN the downside last year and countless times with aging prima donna WR's.

He has upside over what he is producing. You are not thinking logically. He hasn't even had a big 130 yard and 2 TD game AND HE WILL.You seem to have an axe to grind and are looking to disagree, but you just picked a poor time to do it. You are obviously a cowboys fan seen with the Romo comment and now Miles Austin being better than Ocho Cinco. But, your fan goggles are clouding your judgement buddy. Austin has done nothing to warrant being ranked over Ocho that is just ridiculous.

 

[SSOG]

Same crap was spouted after Romo's night/day turnaround from Bledsoe his first year starting: "He has no pedigree, he's been useless for YEARS, blah, blah, blah". I clearly remember taking F&L to task for ranking Romo behind such "proven vets" like Alex Smith and Jon Kitna.85 may be a fine NFL WR for a long damd time. But he has ZERO upside over what he's producing right now. And we've SEEN the downside last year and countless times with aging prima donna WR's.

Chad Ochocinco has zero upside over the 1350 receiving yards he's regularly producing (or the 1200/8 he's currently on pace for)? And that's somehow supposed to be a negative. Do you also downgrade Adrian Peterson because he has no upside over about 2000 yards rushing? Is Randy Moss a downgrade because the best he can possibly do is 20 TDs? You downgrade Ochocinco because his upside is "first team AP All Pro"? Huh?Also, there's a massive difference between Romo (who lots of people liked, and who was stuck behind a quality NFL talent in Drew Bledsoe) and Austin (who no one really liked before the season, and who was held back by such studs as Patrick Crayton and Roy Williams).Plus, can we please stop referring to Ochocinco as an "aging prima donna"? I suppose he's technically aging in the sense that we're all aging, every second of every day, but he's not old, and he's not a prima donna. Like I said, Ochocinco is 31. Based on historical aging patterns of All-Pro WRs, he's got 3 years after this one before he loses a step, and then at least one more year of quality production after that before he really falls off. He's no more "aging" than Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Reggie Wayne, Randy Moss, Steve Smith, Steven Jackson, or Ronnie Brown are "aging". Sure, he's not 26... but his production and talent more than offsets any age disparity.

 

[Homer]

Crayton sure seems to feel like he was left in the dust this week? After a year of Roy W. doing NOTHING in Dallas, he's gonna suddenly turn it on?

Uhmmm, that seems to leave Mr. Austin as the #1 WR?

And winning 4 early games gets rid of 20 years of absolute disaster? Again, the contest for worst franchise east of St. Louis isn't even close?

For all those looking to pile on here, please answer the following question first: "The Dallas passing offense is __ standard deviations ahead of Cincinnati's".

Then go back and and (after reviewing the depth chart, please) and answer after considering the Superman Palmer hasn't finished a season upright since WHEN?

As far as being a Cowboys fan, I'm certainly a Romo fan as far as fantasy is concerned. And in ANY event, his #1 receiver is a better guy than a bench player in a 16 team league.

 

[benm3218]

Crayton sure seems to feel like he was left in the dust this week? After a year of Roy W. doing NOTHING in Dallas, he's gonna suddenly turn it on?Uhmmm, that seems to leave Mr. Austin as the #1 WR?And winning 4 early games gets rid of 20 years of absolute disaster? Again, the contest for worst franchise east of St. Louis isn't even close?For all those looking to pile on here, please answer the following question first: "The Dallas passing offense is __ standard deviations ahead of Cincinnati's".Then go back and and (after reviewing the depth chart, please) and answer after considering the Superman Palmer hasn't finished a season upright since WHEN?As far as being a Cowboys fan, I'm certainly a Romo fan as far as fantasy is concerned. And in ANY event, his #1 receiver is a better guy than a bench player in a 16 team league.

Call me crazy but I think Cinci's passing offense will finish the year better than Dallas will.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Guess he really trying to say ROY is trash and so is Crayton.

Maybe yall wasnt high on Austin but i CLEARLY remember watching an ESPN special and they had him as a possible breakout candidate before the season.

Austin was also of interest in my dyno leagues before the season as others saw him as a breakout candidate....

To say no one was high on him is off....unless you speaking on you and F&L.

I think we looking at a PERFECT STORM in the making...I wont get into why, its already been said above but we shall see alot over the next 4-5 weeks to

get a handle on Miles Austin prospects. But if he produces at any decent rate....it will be too late for most to get cheap. Right now we can use the:

He cant catch...He barely beat out Studly Crayton, It was against the sorry Chiefs EXCUSES....