What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Dynasty & Redraft: RB Matt Jones, Colts (1 Viewer)

This just confirms the effect of Bill Callahan.

I realize Dallas has had all sorts of unexpected factors and changes but look at Dallas last year and look at the Redskins this year in the running game, they have switched places.

 
Considering him over Doug Martin (against HOU). I hate having Thursday night guys. Especially ones I'm on the fence about because of playing time.

 
Mulling over whether to start him @ FLEX. Pretty sure I'd start him over JStew (Mr. "I'll get you 80 total yds & 0 TDs"); considering John Brown & Steve Smith in that spot as well.

 
I'm surprised there isn't any debate (that I can see) about Matt surpassing Morris at some point during this season.

Anyone expect that?

Any expectations on carry share moving forward?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I'm surprised there isn't any debate (that I can see) about Matt surpassing Morris at some point during this season.

Anyone expect that?

Any expectations on carry share moving forward?
I don't think Washington will pay the money to re-sign Alf. So they're going to keep working Jones.

But...

Why wouldn't WA run the heck out of Alf knowing they're not going to re-sign him?

This is a committee for the season unless someone gets hurt.

 
I'm surprised there isn't any debate (that I can see) about Matt surpassing Morris at some point during this season.

Anyone expect that?

Any expectations on carry share moving forward?
I don't think Jones will ever completely send Morris to the bench. Morris is a decent runner in his own right. And although Morris won't be with the team next year and some are saying they should run him till the wheels fall off, Gruden himself might not have a job after this year, so I expect him to lean on his best back, which certainly appears to be Jones at this point.

 
They plan to use both. I'll be happy to see what Jones can do with 10-15 carries and 2.5 catches per game. For now.

 
I'm surprised there isn't any debate (that I can see) about Matt surpassing Morris at some point during this season.

Anyone expect that?

Any expectations on carry share moving forward?
I don't think Washington will pay the money to re-sign Alf. So they're going to keep working Jones.

But...

Why wouldn't WA run the heck out of Alf knowing they're not going to re-sign him?

This is a committee for the season unless someone gets hurt.
Isn't that as simple as, because they want to win games and Jones is a better option some times?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Wish I had the courage to start him over anyone at this point. I hate ####### ESPN projections -- they stare at you like hawks. Matt Jones projected for 7 points while CJ Anderson is projected for 13. In what world, at this point in the season, can we reasonably expect CJ to double MJ's performance on two RBBCs?

 
I'm surprised there isn't any debate (that I can see) about Matt surpassing Morris at some point during this season.

Anyone expect that?

Any expectations on carry share moving forward?
I don't think Washington will pay the money to re-sign Alf. So they're going to keep working Jones.

But...

Why wouldn't WA run the heck out of Alf knowing they're not going to re-sign him?

This is a committee for the season unless someone gets hurt.
Isn't that as simple as, because they want to win games and Jones is a better option some times?
Definitely. I'm just saying that WA has incentive to use Alf plenty to keep Jones fresh.

 
Wish I had the courage to start him over anyone at this point. I hate ####### ESPN projections -- they stare at you like hawks. Matt Jones projected for 7 points while CJ Anderson is projected for 13. In what world, at this point in the season, can we reasonably expect CJ to double MJ's performance on two RBBCs?
In the world where the Giants' defense ranks third in yards/carry so far. I'd love to plug Jones in after his big game but I have plenty of doubts about this matchup.

 
I don't trust anything about Thursday games. Remember Kirk Cousins imploding last year against the Giants despite having some nice games? It could happen.

If Jones goes off on your bench, at least you know you have a winner. But I'd bench him this week

 
Wish I had the courage to start him over anyone at this point. I hate ####### ESPN projections -- they stare at you like hawks. Matt Jones projected for 7 points while CJ Anderson is projected for 13. In what world, at this point in the season, can we reasonably expect CJ to double MJ's performance on two RBBCs?
In the world where the Giants' defense ranks third in yards/carry so far. I'd love to plug Jones in after his big game but I have plenty of doubts about this matchup.
I like this post. Really trying to get Matt Jones in the lineup. Wonder how much of that was opponent (Atl and Dal don't have strong run game per se).

 
I don't trust anything about Thursday games. Remember Kirk Cousins imploding last year against the Giants despite having some nice games? It could happen.

If Jones goes off on your bench, at least you know you have a winner. But I'd bench him this week
Easy for you to say. I'm more excited about Jones than I am about Woodhead or Rashad Jennings.

 
My RB's SUUUUCK (Ivory, Jennings, Dunbar, Ellington, Crowell), but I think I'm still going to roll with Ivory and Crowell over Jones. Mainly because, as a Skins homer, I feel like the Giants bring out the worst in the Skins, as do prime-time games...so that's two strikes.

I think Jones could have a good, productive year, and based on what I've seen, he'll be the RB1 next year, but I think it's too early to be starting him over guys you drafted in the first 4-5 rounds.

 
ryno1980 said:
ATB said:
Wish I had the courage to start him over anyone at this point. I hate ####### ESPN projections -- they stare at you like hawks. Matt Jones projected for 7 points while CJ Anderson is projected for 13. In what world, at this point in the season, can we reasonably expect CJ to double MJ's performance on two RBBCs?
In the world where the Giants' defense ranks third in yards/carry so far. I'd love to plug Jones in after his big game but I have plenty of doubts about this matchup.
Sure, but CJ has scored a whopping 5 POINTS so far this season. MJo has scored 26.

CJ is, by all accounts, injured (turf toe).

MJo is a beast in peak condition.

CJ has a terrible O-line right now.

MJo is bursting through the holes his line creates.

By the eye test, it's nearly impossible for me to say CJ looks like he's even on the same level as MJo at this very moment in time.

 
ryno1980 said:
ATB said:
Wish I had the courage to start him over anyone at this point. I hate ####### ESPN projections -- they stare at you like hawks. Matt Jones projected for 7 points while CJ Anderson is projected for 13. In what world, at this point in the season, can we reasonably expect CJ to double MJ's performance on two RBBCs?
In the world where the Giants' defense ranks third in yards/carry so far. I'd love to plug Jones in after his big game but I have plenty of doubts about this matchup.
Sure, but CJ has scored a whopping 5 POINTS so far this season. MJo has scored 26.

CJ is, by all accounts, injured (turf toe).

MJo is a beast in peak condition.

CJ has a terrible O-line right now.

MJo is bursting through the holes his line creates.

By the eye test, it's nearly impossible for me to say CJ looks like he's even on the same level as MJo at this very moment in time.
I was just saying that's the "on-paper" reason for such a ranking/projection. I agree but I have no stock in CJ this year so I'm not really into that comparison.Gotta think the Denver line progresses sometime soon. But have to love the overall attitude Washington has about running the ball though. Made Jones worth blowing large chunk of budget on.

 
Starting him over Ingram and J. Hill this week. Normally I wouldn't bench a 2nd round pick but Hill plays the Ravens this week.
Wait, the Ravens D that just got taken to the woodshed by the Raiders offense (which admittedly is improving)? This is not the Ravens defense of the past. The loss of Suggs is big.

 
Cross-posted from another thread:

Jones sounds like a freak, former sprinter DHB was the only skill position player to be clocked faster in the open field week 2, and Jones weight 230 lbs. He "only" ran a 4.61 at the Combine, but some dudes play faster than they time, and he seems to fall into that category, crazy field fast.

http://www.nfl.com/n...like-matt-jones



 
Cross-posted from another thread:

Jones sounds like a freak, former sprinter DHB was the only skill position player to be clocked faster in the open field week 2, and Jones weight 230 lbs. He "only" ran a 4.61 at the Combine, but some dudes play faster than they time, and he seems to fall into that category, crazy field fast.

http://www.nfl.com/n...like-matt-jones

See the link I posted earlier that had that same stat...It's the burst and top-speed. He might not be that fast from a dead stop over 40 yards, but once he's up to speed, he seems to fly. Jones is tall and larger than most...so it's going to take him longer to get up to speed. Almost an Usain Bolt type situation - Bolt is a really tall sprinter. He almost never leads a race over the first 40 meters, but once he's up to speed, his top speed is fast because of his longer gait.

The 40 measures acceleration and top speed in some combination. It doesn't necessarily indicate who's going have the fastest top speed, and in this case, it seems Jones is REALLY fast once he's up to speed.

 
Rather than start a whole new thread...who are you guys starting Jones over this week? Or sitting him for? Or unsure of?

I was contemplating starting him over Doug Martin. Wasn't sure. But with Demarco hurting his hamstring, I'm using both Jones and Martin. Starting him over Sankey and R. Hillman.

 
Seriously considering starting Matt Jones over the likes of my 4th & 5th round RB picks, who I thought was solid at the time, Lamar Miller & Frank Gore.

 
People are reacting to his tremendous talent and the hope that he can still get 12-15 touches against a questionable Giants run D. I'm playing him over Spiller.

 
I have Jones on my bench; starting Dion Lewis. If I hadn't landed Lewis via FAAB, I would've started Jones instead of JStew.

 
Cross-posted from another thread:

Jones sounds like a freak, former sprinter DHB was the only skill position player to be clocked faster in the open field week 2, and Jones weight 230 lbs. He "only" ran a 4.61 at the Combine, but some dudes play faster than they time, and he seems to fall into that category, crazy field fast.

http://www.nfl.com/n...like-matt-jones

See the link I posted earlier that had that same stat...It's the burst and top-speed. He might not be that fast from a dead stop over 40 yards, but once he's up to speed, he seems to fly. Jones is tall and larger than most...so it's going to take him longer to get up to speed. Almost an Usain Bolt type situation - Bolt is a really tall sprinter. He almost never leads a race over the first 40 meters, but once he's up to speed, his top speed is fast because of his longer gait.

The 40 measures acceleration and top speed in some combination. It doesn't necessarily indicate who's going have the fastest top speed, and in this case, it seems Jones is REALLY fast once he's up to speed.
The weird thing is that I don't remember him being fast AT ALL at Florida. He was our plodder to Kelvin Taylor's speed/elusiveness. I don't think you could find a Florida fan that ever would have used Jones and "fast" in the same sentence.

Not sure if it was all scheme or if he just worked really hard in the offseason, but he looks like a totally different guy now.

 
The people I see being benched for Jones astonishes me. Did Morris get hurt or something?
Nope...I agree - No way I start a guy on talent and 1 start over guys with proven records, but given the C. Michael thread, I think i'm in the minority. I own Jones in one league, and I can't pull the trigger on starting him over I. Crowell. I tend to be conservative, and as a Skin's fan, I know how rare TD's can be and how bad we tend to play vs. the Giants.

 
Contemplating starting him over CJ Anderson, JStew, JRandle, Dion Lewis, David Johnson.

Actually, I'm contemplating starting Matt Jones AND David Johnson.

Gotta start 2 and can use another as Flex.

 
Surely I am not the only one who thinks of this when I see our hero's name or the thread get bumped.

Matt Jones. Who? Matt Jones! Cause you'll neverrrr, catch Mr. Jones!

 
I'm NOT starting him. Benched behind CJ Anderson and either Crow or Muscle Hamster.

I do not trust him yet. Or the Skins.

 
The people I see being benched for Jones astonishes me. Did Morris get hurt or something?
I agree. I think there's a good chance there will be a lot of disappointed MJ owners come Monday
Hard to imagine him not getting ~15 touches tonight. Giants have been stout against the run, but have given up a lot of stats to RB receptions. Sample is too small to cast judgment, but if the early trend holds, maybe we see Jones get 3-4 catches with some big gains to supplement his rushing stats.

Plus he has the gamebreaker potential to take one to the house at any point. So there is that.

 
The people I see being benched for Jones astonishes me. Did Morris get hurt or something?
I agree. I think there's a good chance there will be a lot of disappointed MJ owners come Monday
I think people love his upside, which we all saw last week. How many 'sure thing' running backs are there nowadays? Charles and Forte? Peterson flopped week one. Lynch has been shaky. Murray is averaging a yard per carry. McCoy's been a bust....Hill's been a bust. Anderson and L. Miller are duds....

Everyone who's starting Jones tonight realizes they may end up with 2.7 points and end up in a huge hole going into the weekend. But the owners of most of the top ten backs drafted have been dealing with that all year, too. This is the year of the dud back and Jones has as good a chance as anyone of having a great game. Or a bad one. Just like 80% of the rest of the league's starters.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The people I see being benched for Jones astonishes me. Did Morris get hurt or something?
I agree. I think there's a good chance there will be a lot of disappointed MJ owners come Monday
Hard to imagine him not getting ~15 touches tonight. Giants have been stout against the run, but have given up a lot of stats to RB receptions. Sample is too small to cast judgment, but if the early trend holds, maybe we see Jones get 3-4 catches with some big gains to supplement his rushing stats.

Plus he has the gamebreaker potential to take one to the house at any point. So there is that.
The Giants do get Beason back tonight though, which might be a boost.

 
Can't bring myself to start Jones this week, though have a lot of other options in that league too.

Was actually hoping he'd stay quiet a few weeks so I could cut him and get him back from waivers at a cheaper salary in a hard cap league. Probably no chance at all now I could even get him back at what he's currently costing. I like his future outlook though. I just worry he and Morris could be so mired in a RBBC neither of them will have enough consistent starter value.

 
The people I see being benched for Jones astonishes me. Did Morris get hurt or something?
I agree. I think there's a good chance there will be a lot of disappointed MJ owners come Monday
Hard to imagine him not getting ~15 touches tonight. Giants have been stout against the run, but have given up a lot of stats to RB receptions. Sample is too small to cast judgment, but if the early trend holds, maybe we see Jones get 3-4 catches with some big gains to supplement his rushing stats.

Plus he has the gamebreaker potential to take one to the house at any point. So there is that.
Honestly, I think it's hard to imagine him GETTING 15 touches tonight.

Last 4 Skins vs. Giants meetings

Skins 13 - Giants 24 --> 19 total RB carries

Skins 14 - Giants 45 --> 15 total RB carries

Skins 6 - Giants 20 --> 21 total RB carries

Skins 17 - Giants 24 --> 17 total RB carries

Yes...I know this Washington team hopefully likes to run the ball A LOT more, but still...That's assuming basically 50% more carries than the best of the last 4 games, AND a 50/50 split with Morris, neither of which is a guarantee.

 

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top