Dynasty & Redraft: RB Matt Jones, Colts (1 Viewer)

[MattFancy]

Buy low?

In re-draft? I don't know. Morris isn't going anywhere this year and Chris Thompson is getting the work on passing downs. Hard to trust Jones as anything other than a Morris handcuff for now.

A Morris handcuff? I'd only burn a roster spot on top RBs, guys where you'd really be screwed if they got hurt. Right now Morris is barely startable himself. It's hard to justify using a roster spot on a Morris handcuff at this point. Maybe in bigger leagues, perhaps.

TDs are hard to predict, but Morris has ZERO through five games. That ain't good. If I had to start one, I'd prefer Jones' low floor and higher ceiling right now than Morris's slightly higher floor and very low ceiling.

I wouldn't trust either of the 2 in my lineup right now. As a Skins fan, the staff still likes Morris and he isn't going anywhere. Could Jones get a few more carries than Morris every now and then? Sure. But the Skins offense isn't exactly clicking and if they get down in games, they've shown they have no problem abandoning then run. Hell, they were leading most of the game last week against Atlanta and Morris/Jones combined for 19 carries. I just have a hard time seeing Jones doing much this year as long as Morris is there. Now, if Morris went down, then sure, fire up Jones every week. But with Morris and the emergence of Chris Thompson, it's probably better to stay away from this backfield for now.

 

[Van Dyman]

Buy low?

In re-draft? I don't know. Morris isn't going anywhere this year and Chris Thompson is getting the work on passing downs. Hard to trust Jones as anything other than a Morris handcuff for now.

A Morris handcuff? I'd only burn a roster spot on top RBs, guys where you'd really be screwed if they got hurt. Right now Morris is barely startable himself. It's hard to justify using a roster spot on a Morris handcuff at this point. Maybe in bigger leagues, perhaps.

TDs are hard to predict, but Morris has ZERO through five games. That ain't good. If I had to start one, I'd prefer Jones' low floor and higher ceiling right now than Morris's slightly higher floor and very low ceiling.

I wouldn't trust either of the 2 in my lineup right now. As a Skins fan, the staff still likes Morris and he isn't going anywhere. Could Jones get a few more carries than Morris every now and then? Sure. But the Skins offense isn't exactly clicking and if they get down in games, they've shown they have no problem abandoning then run. Hell, they were leading most of the game last week against Atlanta and Morris/Jones combined for 19 carries. I just have a hard time seeing Jones doing much this year as long as Morris is there. Now, if Morris went down, then sure, fire up Jones every week. But with Morris and the emergence of Chris Thompson, it's probably better to stay away from this backfield for now.

Yep. 16 RB runs in a game where they were tied or leading until the 3rd quarter. After Fitzpatrick scrambled for that 18-yd TD run to give NYJ their first lead, WAS barely ran at all - one carry for Morris and a few for Thompson - but threw a bunch of short passes to Thompson. Hard to trust WAS running game, unless you have Thompson and they are facing a high-powered offense. On that note, matchups after the bye include NE, NO, NYG, PHI, and DAL (twice...both after Romo+Dez return). If Thompson stays healthy down the stretch he'll have lots of touches.

 

[Van Dyman]

Regarding Thompson, he sustained a back injury this week. Maybe it's nothing, but he also injured his back in high school and broke two vertebrae in college. If he misses time, how would WAS split the carries between Morris/Jones on early downs vs 3rd downs? What about when they are trailing late in the game...Jones?

 

[BobbyLayne]

Regarding Thompson, he sustained a back injury this week. Maybe it's nothing, but he also injured his back in high school and broke two vertebrae in college. If he misses time, how would WAS split the carries between Morris/Jones on early downs vs 3rd downs? What about when they are trailing late in the game...Jones?

He has great hands and should have the capacity to be a good pass catcher out of the backfield. But they haven't utilized him much as such - 3 catches in his breakout game Week 2, only 1 catch the entire rest of the season.

Carrier only has 7 targets/6 catches since Reed last played (Week 4.)

Gruden said Monday: ''I'm not looking to make any drastic changes right now.''

At 2-4 (6-16 overall) you better start thinking about how critical this week is for the team. Another season slipping away for the Redskins.

 

[cubbie5150]

Seems to be too much working against Jones for this season. That toe sprain is concerning, and he'll come back to a three-headed RBBC. Holding tight in dynasty obviously, but in redraft, I am open to dropping him w/ bye weeks looming. I've been bummed by his utter lack of use in the passing game.

 

[Shutout]

Not much value right now. Given the current state of the team, the one thing that I can still envision that would really, really help him would be a significant injury to Morris. Obviously, not wanting that to happen (and I don't own either player, so I'm just thinking of scenarios).

Outside that, I just don't think the way the season is unfolding is particularly good for any of the Redskins except Reed when he is healthy.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Matt Jones (toe) is practicing in full for Week 7.
It appears Jones' absence will be quarantined to one game. With Chris Thompson (back) looking extremely shaky for Sunday's game against the Bucs, Jones could be in for a more concrete role than usual. The situation will be updated on Friday.


Redskins RB Chris Thompson (back) still has "significant swelling," and remained sidelined at Thursday's practice.
Coach Jay Gruden admitted there's a chance Thompson misses Sunday's game against the Bucs. That would lead to more passing game targets for Matt Jones if he can play through his toe injury.

 

[Jack White]

Matt Jones (toe) is practicing in full for Week 7.
It appears Jones' absence will be quarantined to one game. With Chris Thompson (back) looking extremely shaky for Sunday's game against the Bucs, Jones could be in for a more concrete role than usual. The situation will be updated on Friday.


Redskins RB Chris Thompson (back) still has "significant swelling," and remained sidelined at Thursday's practice.
Coach Jay Gruden admitted there's a chance Thompson misses Sunday's game against the Bucs. That would lead to more passing game targets for Matt Jones if he can play through his toe injury.

This could be huge for Matt Jones' prospects this week.

Morris has been mediocre as a runner this year, and his pass catching ability makes Larry "Duck Hands" Donnell look like Jerry Rice.

 

[Tong Po]

In a 12-team redraft where I lost Jamal Charles, I'm stuck choosing between Jones and Alf pretty much every week.

Probably starting Jones (assuming he's active) and hoping for the best. Just feel like he has way more upside than Morris.

 

[SameSongNDance]

Washington RedskinsVerified account ‏@Redskins 35m35 minutes ago
McVay says RB Matt Jones could play the third-down back role if Chris Thompson (back) is unable to play Sunday vs. TB.

Oh, and he looks pretty healthy to me.

 

[FGITLOTR]

It looks like Thompson won't go and this could be a big week for him against a porous Buc D. In a non-PPR, I currently have VJax in over him as my flex, but may switch before Sunday. If you are starting Jones, who are you starting him over?

 

[theplayer11]

I',m stating him with confidence...anyone else?

 

[Jack White]

I',m stating him with confidence...anyone else?

I'm starting him in one league with Gio on a bye.

In my other league, I'm trying to swing a couple trades. If I do, it'll come down to Dion vs. Matt.

Otherwise, it'll be Snead vs. Matt (PPR).

 

[Deaddawg]

Lacy on Bye and CJ?k starting in othe spot I really don't have a choice. Still, I feel good about it.

 

[SameSongNDance]

I'm starting him.

I wouldn't say I'm supremely confident but even with him missing time he's seen 5 GL carries to Morris's 1 and will now possibly see a massive bump in targets depending on gameflow. In their losses, Thompson has averaged close to 10 targets a game.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Had to drop him earlier this year but kind of excited to see how he does in the passing downs with Thompson out.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Between him and Rishard Mathews in flex....

 

[ATB]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

 

[hotlanta]

I read earlier this year that Morris is a free agent at the end of this year and that the current coaching regime has no ties to him (he's a Shanny product). Given that and the fact that Morris looks terrible this year, I think we'll see more of Jones in the 2nd half of the season. Get him while you can.

 

[SameSongNDance]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

It's possible. WAS is only -3 at home and TB is coming off of a bye. More importantly he's gameflow proof because he gets all the GL touches as well.

 

[MNTom]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

It's possible. WAS is only -3 at home and TB is coming off of a bye. More importantly he's gameflow proof because he gets all the GL touches as well.

Morris doesn't get all the goal line touches. Jones has gotten a good amount when he's been healthy.

 

[SameSongNDance]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

It's possible. WAS is only -3 at home and TB is coming off of a bye. More importantly he's gameflow proof because he gets all the GL touches as well.

Morris doesn't get all the goal line touches. Jones has gotten a good amount when he's been healthy.

Re-read my last two posts in this thread, I can see how this last one was a bit confusing though. I was referring to Jones as gameflow proof.

 

[ATB]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

It's possible. WAS is only -3 at home and TB is coming off of a bye. More importantly he's gameflow proof because he gets all the GL touches as well.

Maybe I've just been burned by Jones too many times but I fully expect him to have a few big games the rest of the season, but picking which games those will be isn't worth the headache and potential goose egg. Might be gameflow proof but he's not being-on-a-terrible-team proof.

 

[MNTom]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

It's possible. WAS is only -3 at home and TB is coming off of a bye. More importantly he's gameflow proof because he gets all the GL touches as well.

Maybe I've just been burned by Jones too many times but I fully expect him to have a few big games the rest of the season, but picking which games those will be isn't worth the headache and potential goose egg. Might be gameflow proof but he's not being-on-a-terrible-team proof.

They face some pretty good run defenses too

 

[Jack White]

I read earlier this year that Morris is a free agent at the end of this year and that the current coaching regime has no ties to him (he's a Shanny product). Given that and the fact that Morris looks terrible this year, I think we'll see more of Jones in the 2nd half of the season. Get him while you can.

I agree. Managed to get him in both my leagues. The change is coming, sooner or later. Maybe as soon as tomorrow.

 

[renesauz]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

I think Washington down big seems more likely than up big. I expect a close game

 

[FGITLOTR]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

I think Washington down big seems more likely than up big. I expect a close game

Is Thompson definitely not playing?

 

[hotlanta]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

I think Washington down big seems more likely than up big. I expect a close game

Is Thompson definitely not playing?

He's listed as Doubtful.

 

[hotlanta]

From Rotoworld:

The Washington Post reports Matt Jones is expected to handle a "heavy workload both as a runner and pass catcher" in Week 7.
Passing-game specialist Chris Thompson (back) is out, and Alfred Morris has struggled mightily in Washington's revised power-running scheme. Jones is an underrated RB2 option and could push for 20-plus touches against the Bucs if the Redskins can keep the game close and/or nurse a lead.

 

[FGITLOTR]

Starting him with confidence after seeing this

 

[cubbie5150]

Starting him with confidence after seeing this

Zero confidence here, but I'm starting him nonetheless.

 

[jimmykick]

starting him with no confidence today dropped alfred morris to pick him up actually

also starting him over:

Gates (because he's questionable and later game)

Ameer Abdullah

Willie Snead

 

[renesauz]

This news will only be beneficial if the Skins find themselves down and having to pass. Is that likely against TB? I'm thinking not. So I'm betting Morris gets more run-the-clock touches.

I think Washington down big seems more likely than up big. I expect a close game

Expecting tons of short receptions rest of game

 

[cubbie5150]

Started him today. I've made a terrible mistake.

 

[RushHour]

Are we sure this guy is good?

 

[Van Dyman]

Stat line looks pretty weak. Didn't see the game. How did he look on the field?

 

[dehaven123]

Stat line looks pretty weak. Didn't see the game. How did he look on the field?

He looked fine, considering the Skins run blocking has disappeared over the last 3-4 wks.

More importantly, w/ Thompson out, he recieved all of the passing down snaps and was in the bulk of the game over a healthy Alf.

I didn't see the snap count comparison, but I'd say 75/25 in favor of Jones.

 

[Fat Nick]

I started him for lack of options this week...I guess I could've done worse.

What I do find hilarious is how, after his one huge week 1, there was all the talk that Callahan's impact on the OL was so huge. Looks like SSDD on our OL now.

 

[Banger]

Stat line looks pretty weak. Didn't see the game. How did he look on the field?

He looked fine, considering the Skins run blocking has disappeared over the last 3-4 wks.

More importantly, w/ Thompson out, he recieved all of the passing down snaps and was in the bulk of the game over a healthy Alf.

I didn't see the snap count comparison, but I'd say 75/25 in favor of Jones.

snap counts were Jones (45), Morris (10) and Young (10).

 

[AnonymousBob]

 

[Riversco]

Both Matt Jones and Alfred Morris are available as free agents in my league. I don't even know which one to pick up.

 

[TartanLion]

Was fortunate enough to stumble into starting him today. Wish I could stream RBs against NO every week. Or an NO SAn Diego mix

 

[ex-ghost]

Curious to see how he does this week against a non-Saints team.

 

[JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo]

I'm just glad I finally FINALLY got some production out of the ******* after holding onto him for 8 weeks.

He ain't doing much against Carolina but the next few weeks should be OK. At this point he's the best I got

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Redskins coach Jay Gruden wants the offense to utilize more screen passes.

"They’re important, especially if you’re playing some of these pass rush teams that like to get up the field and rush," Gruden said. "Last week was really our first time we had a lot of success with those screen passes and I expect us to have more as the season goes on." Matt Jones took a screen pass 78-yards for a touchdown last week against New Orleans, and he figures to be the main screen weapon moving forward. Chris Thompson could also be utilized in third-down situations. Jones had a big game against a glorified college defense last week, but he will find the sledding much tougher this week against Carolina. He is an uninspiring RB3.

Source: CSN Washington

Nov 21 - 12:43 PM

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I acquired Jones right before the saints game after noticing he was taking on the majority of the snaps. He blew up in the game despite on playing 37% thanks to the big plays. Then last week he played awful, but saw 38% out of necessity because Morris aggravated the rib. Is he back in the dog house with that fumble or do they give the kid another chance?

What percentage of the snaps can you realistically expect Jones to play this week? The matchup is good and I'd play him without hesitation if Morris didn't play, but I'm assuming he will. Anyone have any insight on which way they will go here?

 

[MattFancy]

I acquired Jones right before the saints game after noticing he was taking on the majority of the snaps. He blew up in the game despite on playing 37% thanks to the big plays. Then last week he played awful, but saw 38% out of necessity because Morris aggravated the rib. Is he back in the dog house with that fumble or do they give the kid another chance?

What percentage of the snaps can you realistically expect Jones to play this week? The matchup is good and I'd play him without hesitation if Morris didn't play, but I'm assuming he will. Anyone have any insight on which way they will go here?

Always a toss up. He's just so hard to trust because the Redskins OL hasn't been opening up holes like they were at the beginning of the year. Yes, the matchup seems good, but the Skins rotate backs so frequently during games that it is hard to trust just one of them. Jones would be the play if you had to pick one, but I wouldn't be super confident in starting him unless you're out of other options.

 

[oldmanhawkins]

I acquired Jones right before the saints game after noticing he was taking on the majority of the snaps. He blew up in the game despite on playing 37% thanks to the big plays. Then last week he played awful, but saw 38% out of necessity because Morris aggravated the rib. Is he back in the dog house with that fumble or do they give the kid another chance?

What percentage of the snaps can you realistically expect Jones to play this week? The matchup is good and I'd play him without hesitation if Morris didn't play, but I'm assuming he will. Anyone have any insight on which way they will go here?

Always a toss up. He's just so hard to trust because the Redskins OL hasn't been opening up holes like they were at the beginning of the year. Yes, the matchup seems good, but the Skins rotate backs so frequently during games that it is hard to trust just one of them. Jones would be the play if you had to pick one, but I wouldn't be super confident in starting him unless you're out of other options.

Gruden expressed confidence that jones will fix the issue. Does this translate as "I'm going to give him a chance to prove it this week" or "I'm cutting your playing time until you show me". I'd guess it's the latter and unless Morris is hurt his playing time is cut. Any other news out there?

 

[Doubledown1313]

(Rotoworld)CSN Mid-Atlantic expects Matt Jones to be Washington's starter next season.

Analysis: Jones had an up-and-down rookie year, but showed enough that the Redskins aren't going to re-sign Alfred Morris. He should enter OTAs as the clear-cut starter. Jones has a three-down skill set, but needs to hold off Chris Thompson for pass-game work.

 

[Zyphros]

Should be easy enough to hold off Chris Thompson for passing down work, the trick is holding him off for 1st and 2nd down with his fumbles. He excels in the pass game, that's where 90% of his highlights came from this past year right? If he can secure the ball then he should be the workhorse there.