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[BigTex]

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[BigTex]

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[Xue]

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Denard Robinson will play wide receiver at Senior Bowl

By Kareem Copeland

Around the League Writer

Published: Jan. 9, 2013 at 04:47 p.m.

Updated: Jan. 9, 2013 at 08:01 p.m.

Michigan quarterback Denard Robinson was one of the most dynamic players in college football history. His 4,495 rushing yards set the NCAA's Football Bowl Subdivision career record for rushing yards by a quarterback.

Robinson, however, won't play quarterback in the NFL. He never has been an accurate passer or made the best decisions in the passing game.

Robinson has accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl as a receiver and will play some running back, the Detroit Free Press reported.

"There's a lot of people hoping that he goes down to Mobile, Ala., and plays in that Senior Bowl and does what Antwaan Randle El did coming out of Indiana as a quarterback, goes there and shows that he can catch the football and return punts," ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. said. "If Robinson does that, we know he's got tremendous speed, a tremendous burst, we know he's a tough kid, we know he can run with the football in his hands, you can put him in the backfield. He could be a situational back, you could put him in the slot, in the wing, you could put him in the return game, you can get him the ball in space.

"I think as long as he shows he can catch the ball effectively, he's got a chance to be a second-round draft choice. I really believe that's where he could potentially go."

Robinson will be drafted despite some doubts. In a league where Wes Welker, Percy Harvin and Randall Cobb shine in the slot, Robinson definitely has the opportunity to be a playmaker in the right system. He'll start to prove that to NFL scouts and coaches in two weeks at the Senior Bowl.

Geno Smith, Matt Barkley will not play in Senior Bowl

By Marc Sessler

Around the League Writer

Published: Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:39 a.m.

Updated: Jan. 9, 2013 at 04:50 p.m.

This year's Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., will be played without two high-profile college quarterbacks.

Liz Mullen of SBJ.com reported Wednesday that West Virginia's Geno Smith and USC's Matt Barkley will not take part in the annual all-star game that doubles as a pre-draft showcase for top college talent, per the game's executive director, Phil Savage.

It suggests the quarterbacks don't view the game -- even if they were to play well -- as a lever to hike their draft stock before April. A bad performance, however, might sink them in eyes of scouts, so staying away isn't a terrible strategy.

Their absence puts QB-hungry teams like the Kansas City Chiefs, who hold the No. 1 overall pick, in a tough position, because Smith and Barkley won't take part in the week of practices leading up to the game, where plenty of evaluation takes place.

This year's quarterback class doesn't come close to the outstanding field we saw a year ago. Barkley, especially, once was seen as a possible top overall pick, but he watched his stock drop during an uneven senior season at USC.

He obviously doesn't view the Senior Bowl as a way to improve those perceptions.

 

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@KevinW_ESPNContinue to be impressed w/ FSU WR Rashad Greene on tape. Silky smooth + savvy within stem to gain leverage and create separation w/ routes.@DraftCampbellUpdated 2013 RB Rankings. No.1 Gio Bernard. New No.2 with #Alabama junior Eddie Lacy. http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2008P.php@RosterWatch1/2) Not feeling the Gio Bernard Love-rewatched 2012 VTech-big day but not seeing it translate to NFL-goes dwn WAY 2 easily on 1st contact.. @elevenbravo138@RosterWatch I wrote the exact same thing in my scouting report of Chris Johnson when he was at ECU. @RosterWatch@elevenbravo138 interesting certainly smthn to thnk about - right now im liking ellington as the CJ2K in ths draft @RosterWatch@elevenbravo138 Dont think he has CJ speed though- which is really the reason CJ works in the NFL @RosterWatch@elevenbravo138 referring to Gio in the speed tweet @OptimumScoutingWouldn't rule out both in 1st. RT @nfldraftscout: Injury questions surrounding Gio Bernard could mean Eddie Lacy is first back off the board

 

[Faust]

Watch Out For TE Kelce

 

[Faust]

East-West Shrine Week Preview

Josh Norris

Stuck between the BCS National Championship and the Senior Bowl is the less publicized East-West Shrine Game, held on Saturday, January 19 in Tampa Bay. Although the highest profile NFL-bound senior prospects attend the Senior Bowl, the East-West Shrine annually graduates solid mid-round talents that produce early in their rookie seasons. Last year's alumni include 49ers WR A.J. Jenkins (30th), Redskins G Josh LeRibeus (71st), Texans G Brandon Brooks (76th), Cowboys DE Tyrone Crawford (81st), Saints DT Akiem Hicks (89th), Minnesota WR Jarius Wright (118th), Panthers CB Josh Norman (143rd), and Redskins RB Alfred Morris (173rd), just to list a few.

The 2013 roster is incredibly deep at the running back position, so it only makes sense the linebacker group is equally talented. Many non-FBS prospects make a name for themselves during this week of “even” competition, and although I watched around 90 percent of the prospects listed on the roster, I will certainly be surprised by a handful of players that outperform their tape. With a prospect like Akiem Hicks, a former LSU recruit, making noise during his rookie year after taking the large step up from Canadian collegiate football, expect evaluators to keep a close eye on similar stories and “upside” prospects that won’t look lost if they touch the field. The full roster can be found here.

Throughout the game's week of practices, I will be posting articles here, tweeting observations from the field, and giving input on every player on the roster, so follow me @JoshNorris. For now, here are some of the top prospects sorted by position. If a player is not listed under their positional category, they might have made my top ten list at the end of the column. All heights and weights are projected until weigh-ins take place on Monday.

Quarterback

There is little doubt that the highest profile prospect attending the week of practice in St. Petersburg, Florida, is Kansas State’s Collin Klein (6’4/226). Unlike the more mobile Denard Robinson, Klein will go through the pre-draft process at the quarterback position. This event will be a good test to see how Klein handles traditional drops and the footwork necessary to make a roster as a signal caller. He has a hitch in his throwing motion, and even with improved intermediate to downfield accuracy this season, Klein’s biggest struggle could be working through progressions while staying in the pocket. I won’t be surprised if three other attending quarterbacks outplay the Kansas State product. The first is one year starter Matt Scott (6’3/196). The Arizona Wildcat’s best asset is his mobility to buy time while making quick decisions with an equally quick release. However, just like Klein, Scott was not locked into the pocket and brings a lot of fidgety movements to his game. Texas Tech’s Seth Doege (6’1/197) is another with a chance to claim top quarterback honors. The Red Raider is limited from a physical standpoint, but Doege plays within himself while working through progressions and putting passes on targets in tight spaces. FInally, the wildcard is Southeastern Louisiana’s Nathan Stanley (6’5/215), a late add to the roster after Duke’s Sean Renfree went down with an injury. Stanley has the biggest arm of the group and was not afraid to test vertically against single coverage, something that can be missed in these all star settings since prospects fear making mistakes.

Running Back/H-Back/Fullback

The running back position is an odd one to critique at these types of events because of the limited contact during practice. An example last year was Alfred Morris. Teams rarely practiced slant or zone blocking, and Morris was barely able to show off his pinball style when bouncing off attempted tackles. The rookie sensation even took some snaps from fullback. As a whole, this year’s talent is much better, and Shrine week is a great platform for a prospect like Christine Michael (5’11/220). After being a very productive runner while not sidelined with injuries, Michael was seemingly stuck in Kevin Sumlin’s dog house in 2012 at Texas A&M. His coaches may not give him a glowing recommendation, but his tape in 2011 will, and Michael has a nice blend of power, agility, and balance. On the opposite end of the spectrum, Utah State’s Kerwynn Williams (5’8/189) made the most of his only season as a starter, stepping up to the plate after Robert Turbin and Michael Smith took their talents to the NFL. Williams’ game is heavily dependent on speed and either knifing through a lane created by the offensive line or beating defenders to the edge and turning the corner. SMU’s Zach Line (6’1/230) is also intriguing, in that he might find a home at fullback in the NFL, but will get one last shot to impress at running back during the week of practice. Line’s vision and anticipation is very good, but he lacks desired quickness and even power despite his large frame.

Wide Receiver/Tight Ends

There is one major quality to love about Virginia Tech WR Marcus Davis (6’4/225), athleticism, as he is a prospect primed to put on a great show at the Combine. Even looking past his suspect blocking effort, the Hokie’s biggest issue is his inconsistency at the catch point, specifically unreliable hands. Davis is best known for stretching the field vertically, but the majority of those types of prospects cannot take the next step and break the wall of being just a role player. Florida State’s Rodney Smith (6’6/219) offers a good frame and long strides to win on intermediate routes, but the progression is to start using his body at the catch point rather than playing like a smaller receiver. Coming off the National Championship where he was limited from a production standpoint, Notre Dame’s Theo Riddick (5’11/200) played a ton of running back and receiver this season. Some have referred to him as a poor man’s Percy Harvin, and although he lines up from a variety of spots, Riddick’s cuts aren’t so much explosive as they are exaggerated. Still, it is nice to have a prospect with his kind of positional versatility because it could create mismatches with defensive personnel. Another name to watch is Mount Union’s Jasper Collins (5’11/190), a real burner from the slot but might struggle against FBS caliber corners. From the tight end position, Nevada’s Zach Sudfeld (6’7/255) presents some intriguing qualities as a possible second tight end down the line. Along with being an adequate receiving option as a hands catcher with size, Sudfeld is a very comfortable blocker and pancaked multiple opponents this season.

Offensive Line

This is the positional group with the weakest talent, but a few deserve to be on this list. The first is Iowa C James Ferentz (6’2/290), the coach’s son. He’s small and might not be able to anchor against a face up nose tackle in a three man front, but Ferentz fights for positioning on every snap, uses foot quickness and leverage to his advantage, and can really get after it. He might not have a frame to grow into, but Ferentz is one of my favorite sixth- or seventh-round prospects because technique can compensate for deficiencies in other areas. Arkansas-Pine Bluff T Terron Armstead (6’5/310) will likely make the move to guard because of his proficiency in blocking on the move. The small schooler is at his best leading blocking on the edge or trapping between the tackles, and although he can be weak on first contact, Armstead has athletic feet to warrant a possible “upside” selection. One of the few Canadian prospects, McMaster University’s Matt Sewell (6’8/345) is a massive blocker that is predictably stiff in the hips, but displays plenty of strength to bully his opponent. A move to the right side is in his future, but the key will be to note if Sewell can mirror in pass protection. Lastly, T Dann O’Neill (6’7/305), a Michigan transfer, finished his career at Western Michigan blocking for fellow attendee Alex Carder. O’Neill should be one of the few prospects able to play the left or right side because of his consistency at anchoring against the pass rush and redirecting momentum.

Defensive Line

Playing across from Jadeveon Clowney, Devin Taylor (6’7/267) presents an equally imposing frame but plays so much tighter, especially in the hips. This doesn’t bode well for Taylor’s bend around the edge or change of direction, so his best chance to make it long term in the NFL is to put on good weight and strength to become a power rusher. If he can, Taylor has the necessary length to press the pocket as long as an aggressive mentality comes with it. Princeton DL Mike Catapano (6’4/270) is top heavy, but uses that broad upper body to win on first contact and shed when pass rushing. He, too, lacks change of direction and struggles to bend, but Catapano gets after it, even against the run. Michigan’s William Campbell (6’5/310) held his own at the one and three techniques this season due to a natural anchor, despite ducking his head against double teams. Campbell won’t press the pocket outside of winning with a motor, but the senior could give the West offensive line fits during run drills in practice if he refuses to be moved off his anchor in the middle of the defense.

Linebackers

I preview a few linebackers in my top ten list below, but a couple more are noteworthy. First is Florida’s Lerentee McCray (6’3/249), a do-everything player with the Gators asked to line up on the strong side, inside, and rush the passer from defensive end. I expect to see a lot of McCray on the strong side, where he can force runs back inside or get physical with tight ends at the line of scrimmage. His biggest issue is the lack of fluid hips in space, leading to missed tackles or poor angles. South Carolina’s DeVonte Holloman (6’2/240) switched to Spurrier’s “Spur” position during the offseason and played well, which might help NFL teams decide which spot he fits at best. If Holloman could excel in coverage against tight ends or in space while using an armbar to stay out of blockers’ grasp in the running game, it would be a successful week. FInally, Iowa State’s A.J. Klein (6’2/244) moved to the weakside when Jake Knott was sidelined with an injury. There’s no flash to his game, but Klein has a sideline motor and will to get to ball carriers on the edge or weed through trash between the tackles.

Defensive Backs

Four corners really caught my eye, and three are on the East roster. The first is Purdue’s Josh Johnson (5’11/195), one of the few corners that loves to get after it on the edge and frequently makes plays on his own in space. Johnson does his best work in man coverage, where he can mirror and stick to the hip pocket of his receiver rather than use less than adequate closing speed. Georgia’s Branden Smith (5’11/175), a prospect with limited experience after alternating between defensive and offensive snaps, is blessed with athletic talent. Smith played a lot of zone coverage for the Bulldogs, often times entering the game as the third corner, and his click and close speed is naturally fast. Comfort is the only thing holding him back, and it would not surprise me if Smith left this week as the top corner from the event. Georgia Tech’s Rod Sweeting (6’0/187) gave up way too much cushion in college but flashed when pressing at the line of scrimmage, using a nice strafe to turn and run with downfield receivers. I was very intrigued by Illinois’ Terry Hawthorne (6’1/193) prior to the season, but an early tackling injury combined with playing as part of an underperforming Illini defense left a sour taste in my mouth. Hawthornes isn’t afraid to attack the edge against the run or disrupt at the catch point. He cannot, however, get caught staring in the backfield and allow receivers to run right past him, unimpeded.

Top Ten Players at the East-West Shrine:

1. RB Zac Stacy (5’9/214), Vanderbilt - I love Zac Stacy, and I think he will be an early third day selection that produces immediately for whatever team drafts him. This year Stacy looked far more decisive with his explosive cuts and rarely went down on first contact. He could thrive in a zone blocking scheme and isn't afraid to get after it in pass protection.

2. RB Ray Graham (5’10/190), Pittsburgh - A knee injury in 2011 left Graham, the nation’s leading rusher at the time, sidelined for an extended period of time. He didn’t seem his old self until the Notre Dame this year, but Graham started hitting the hole more quickly while making effective upfield cuts to make defenders miss.

3. LB Keith Pough (6’3/238), Howard - Surprised? You might not be after this week, as Pough could take over the West practices as the top defensive talent. He is still growing into his frame as a long outside linebacker in a four man front, but Pough’s speed around the edge to make tackles for loss is excellent. Add in some bend and a bit of experience in coverage and Pough could be the first player from this event selected. Added strength would help Pough shed on the edge and bring ball carriers to the ground with more power, but Pough can win in his current state.

4. TE Joseph Fauria (6’7/255), UCLA - The Bruin was finally used correctly as a senior. Split wide or detached from the line of scrimmage in the slot, Fauria is a long redzone target that is only improving with his routes and strength at the catch point. Just don’t ask him to block.

5. LB Gerald Hodges (6’2/251), Penn State- He was outplayed by teammate Michael Mauti until the senior went down with a knee injury, but Hodges offers more athleticism to cover ground. Wasted steps hurt when overrunning plays, but Hodges flashes physical play and has been frequently asked to play in space and cover slot targets.

6. S Duke Williams (6’0/200), Nevada - Williams loves to close on the edge and takes that aggression into coverage with strong angles. Few safeties consistently make contact with ball carriers at the line of scrimmage or behind it, but Williams can frequently be seen rushing in tight to disrupt and hit with force. Add on Williams’ experience in covering slot targets and the Nevada senior could be in for a big week.

7. LB Sio Moore (6’2/229), UConn- Moore was asked to be a utility defender for the Huskies, rushing the passer with great speed around the edge and play the weakside linebacker spot in a run and chase role. The athleticism is there, but at times moore shows stiff hips when attempting to break down for a tackle in space.

8. T Manase Foketi (6’5/325), West Texas A&M - A transfer from Kansas State, Foketi has an oddly shaped frame in terms of skinny arms and a thick core. Still, if he gets over some of his waist bending, Foketi shows the proper footwork to mirror in pass protection and a nasty attitude to bully his opposition in the running game.

9. S Shamarko Thomas (5’10/208), Syracuse - Depending on his success, Thomas will be described as “reckless” or “aggressive.” Regardless, the Orange safety loves to throw around his body and set the tone physically, but that might cause him to bite on misdirection and play fakes.

10. G Jeff Baca (6’3/295), UCLA - Interior offensive linemen that possess a mean streak and motor tend to stick, and despite not being the most physically gifted player, Baca gets after it and doesn’t give up on his blocks. He doesn’t move well to the second level, but as long as Baca can mirror laterally he should make a roster.

 

[Faust]

From Rotoworld:

DeAndre Hopkins | Wide Receiver

Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney said junior WR DeAndre Hopkins received a second-round projection from the NFL Draft Advisory Board.

We think Hopkins has a great chance at the first-round, but these projections are always a little safe. Swinney did mention that the highest grade was in the second-round, but we couldn't imagine the other grades being far off. Hopkins is one of our favorites due to his strength at the catch point and reliable style. Jan 11 - 4:44 PM

Source: Hale McGranahan on Twitter

Mike Glennon | Quarterback

NC State senior Mike Glennon is the only QB ranked in Mel Kiper's top-25 Big Board, and is listed as the 21st overall prospect.

Kiper notes that Glennon was "a victim of tons of drops" and "the tape will help his case." The bowl game wasn't pretty, but Glennon could put on a great showing in Mobile. "I don't see him as an immediate starter in an ideal situation, but he has a high ceiling. A guy who could actually get better between now and the draft," Kiper wrote. Jan 11 - 10:32 AM

Source: ESPN

 

[Faust]

2013 NFL Draft: Top 10 offensive prospects at Shrine Game

By Dane Brugler | NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst

January 12, 2013 4:26 pm ET

The unofficial kickoff to the NFL offseason is the pre-draft all-star games where all 32 teams have the opportunity to evaluate senior prospects on the same field (underclassmen are not eligible for the games). During the upcoming week, scouts, coaches and other NFL representatives will gather in St. Petersburg, Fla., for the 88th annual East-West Shrine Game.

The game is scheduled for Saturday, Jan. 19 at 4 p.m. ET at Tropicana Field. But the real action takes place during the week at the practices, where NFL teams keep a close eye on the players competing on the field. These practices are when prospects have a chance to stand out and improve their draft standing in the minds of scouts.

Entering this year's Shrine Game, here are 10 of the top offensive prospects for the 2013 NFL Draft:



1. TE Nick Kasa, Colorado (6-5, 260, 4.76) – A former defensive end, Kasa didn't make the move to offense until late last season, entering the 2012 campaign with just one career catch on his resume. Despite modest numbers as a senior this past season (25 catches, 391 yards, three touchdowns), he has impressed scouts with his natural athleticism and receiving skills. Kasa surprised even his own coaching staff with the way that he picked up the offense, flashing a physical mean streak as a run blocker and improving with more game action. He has had a tough time staying healthy, but his intriguing NFL upside is the reason that he appears No. 1 on this list.

2. QB Matt Scott, Arizona (6-2, 198, 4.68) – With Nick Foles entrenched as Arizona's starting quarterback for the 2011 season, Scott decided to redshirt that year to have the opportunity to be the starter this past season. But with new coach Rich Rodriguez and his spread-option offensive attack arriving in Tucson, even Scott had some doubts about the fit. That didn't last long; the Wildcats averaged almost 40 points per game as Scott, who is the top quarterback this week in St. Pete, threw for 27 touchdowns and ran for six scores as well. He has a lean, skinny frame with average height, but he showed a lot of toughness and athleticism, flashing the arm talent to get the job done downfield.

3. RB Ray Graham, Pittsburgh (5-9, 192, 4.52) – After his performance in the first half of the 2011 season, Graham appeared destined to bolt early for the NFL and be a future early-round pick. However, a torn ACL midway through his junior year derailed that plan, bringing him back to Pittsburgh for his senior season. Despite a slow start in 2012, Graham started to show his pre-injury form down the stretch and that momentum should carry over to this week. Reminiscent of another former Pitt back, LeSean McCoy, Graham doesn't have great build for the position but is quick-footed with the slippery elusiveness and natural burst to make defenders look silly.



4. WR Rodney Smith, Florida State (6-5, 219, 4.63) – Although he didn't have the senior season that some thought he would, Smith is a prospect that scouts remain high on due to his size and athleticism at a position where both areas are critical. He has good body control and flexibility to make smooth adjustments to off-target throws, using his length well to expand his catching radius. Smith, who leaves Florida State with at least one catch in each of his last 39 games, is a tall target but very thin-framed with little muscle definition and needs to improve his focus and consistency catching the ball. Nonetheless, Smith has the size/speed combo that will intrigue NFL teams.

5. TE Joseph Fauria, UCLA (6-7, 255, 4.82) – The nephew of 13-year NFL veteran tight end Christian Fauria, Joseph finished 2012 second on the team in catches (46) but led the nation in touchdowns by a tight end with 12. Fauria is a good-sized athlete and looks more like a rocked-up wideout than traditional tight end, giving his quarterback a large target. He needs to improve his focus catching the ball and as a blocker to eliminate the mental errors, but he has progressed some in both areas. A transfer from Notre Dame, Fauria isn't as dominant as his measureables would suggest, but he will be able to help an NFL offense, especially in the red zone.

6. WR Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech (6-4, 232, 4.47) – If players were judged strictly on athletic ability, Davis might be No. 1 on this list as he will likely test very well at the NFL Combine in the speed and agility drills. But the game tape paints a different picture as he struggled with consistency as a senior. Davis looks the part with a tall, bulky frame and the explosive athleticism to create with the ball in his hands, flashing a skill set that is very similar to Dez Bryant. However, much like Bryant when he entered the NFL, Davis still has a lot of room, giving inconsistent effort in several areas. But a positive week in St. Pete would go a long way to improving his stock.

7. OT Manase Foketi, West Texas A&M (6-5, 320, 5.30) – While it was an exciting season for Kansas State in 2012, it was even more impressive that they were able to have success on offense without their left tackle Foketi, who left the Wildcats over the summer. And because Kansas State refused to release him from his scholarship in order to transfer to an FBS school, Foketi ended up at West Texas A&M this past season. Starting all 15 games for the Buffaloes, he graded at 95 percent and was a finalist for the Division II Lineman of the Year Award. Foketi is one of the top “small school” prospects participating this week, but he shouldn't have any trouble standing out.

8. OG Jeff Baca, UCLA (6-3, 298, 5.16) -- A versatile lineman, Baca started at left tackle as a true freshman for the Bruins before moving to guard and also serving as the back-up center. He plays with an aggressive demeanor and mean streak to eliminate defenders and finish. However, that attitude will also get him in trouble at times. He also struggled with penalties, particularly false starts. Baca lunges too much but shows the foot quickness and eye discipline to square up rushers and shoot his hands at the point of attack. While rough around the edges, Baca has the skill set to play in the NFL.

9. RB Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt (5-9, 210, 4.49) – Although his career had its ups and downs mostly due to injuries, Stacy leaves Vanderbilt as the school's all-time leading rusher (3,143 yards). He was a vital reason the Commodores have been to bowl games the past two seasons, the first back-to-back appearances in program history. Stacy tends to run a little light with average power, but he plays with a lot of toughness and determination on every run. He is an energetic runner and does a nice job using his vision and patience to allow blocks to develop before weaving through the defense. Stacy isn't often mentioned among this year's top backs, but his intangibles and run instincts will push him up draft boards.

10. FB Zach Line, SMU (6-1, 230, 4.65) -- Not many running backs in this draft class can say they led their conference in rushing the past three seasons, but Line can -- with 1,200+ yards each of the last three years. He finished his SMU career with 4,185 rushing yards, putting him second on the program's career rushing list behind only Eric Dickerson. Line has deceiving speed and acceleration but needs to remember he's not a make-you-miss back and rely more on delivering hits, not absorbing them. He has the size and running mentality of a fullback but was used as the primary running option for the Mustangs and is expected to be used in both roles this week and at the NFL level.

Just missed: RB Theo Riddick (Notre Dame), C James Ferentz (Iowa), TE Zach Sudfeld (Nevada), RB Kerwynn Williams (Utah State), WR Corey Fuller (Virginia Tech), OL Mark Jackson (Glenville State), OL Eric Kush (California, Pa.), QB Nathan Stanley (Southeastern Louisiana), OL Earl Watford (James Madison)

Needs a strong week: RB Christine Michael, Texas A&M

For several reasons, Michael is the forgotten senior prospect in this draft class. He has shown NFL-quality ability over the years in College Station but, due to a couple of serious knee injuries and a forgettable senior season (which he spent mostly on the bench), Michael needs a positive performance this week to help repair his draft status.

Under the radar: TE D.C. Jefferson, Rutgers

A former quarterback, Jefferson made the switch to tight end as a freshman. But his development as a pass-catcher has taken a little longer than originally planned. Despite 40+ starts at tight end, his career production is underwhelming (47 catches, 560 yards and two touchdowns) while the potential is there. In his defense, he wasn't a focal point of the Rutgers offense



Small School Alert: WR Jasper Collins, Mount Union

With the success of Pierre Garcon and Cecil Shorts in the NFL, scouts are taking more notice in the Purple Raiders program. They again have a pro-ready wideout with Collins. Although he isn't quite the same athlete as Garcon or Shorts, he is an excellent route runner with reliable hands. Collins has done all his damage against Division III competition, so this will be a big week for him.

 

[Donnybrook]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

 

[JohnnyU]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

I agree, Atlanta would suit his skills perfectly.

 

[lbouchard]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

I agree, Atlanta would suit his skills perfectly.

It seems like Atlanta is moving to a high speed passing attack. I think Lacy is better suited in PIT. I'd like to see Bernard in ATL.

 

[lod01]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

I agree, Atlanta would suit his skills perfectly.

It seems like Atlanta is moving to a high speed passing attack. I think Lacy is better suited in PIT. I'd like to see Bernard in ATL.

I agree that is a better fit unless Lacy can catch passes like A. Foster.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I really want to believe in Manziel, but after watching his highlight package again I have no idea what to make of him. It's like watching the Platonic ideal of a dual-threat high school quarterback.

 

[Donnybrook]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

I agree, Atlanta would suit his skills perfectly.

It seems like Atlanta is moving to a high speed passing attack. I think Lacy is better suited in PIT. I'd like to see Bernard in ATL.

My logic here has to with teams draft position as well. With Lacy's draft stock rising, he could be a solid pick at Atlanta spot (30-32). Lacy's stock would really have to rise to justify Pittsburgh using a mid round draft pick. Of course, a lot of things can change between now and draft day.

 

[Donnybrook]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

 

[Concept Coop]

I really want to believe in Manziel, but after watching his highlight package again I have no idea what to make of him. It's like watching the Platonic ideal of a dual-threat high school quarterback.

He's so accurate, though. I think his talent translates to the next level.

 

[pacman_fl]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

I am neither but I agree with you and I have read comments from a few in the draft community who are high on him as well. From a value perspective, I feel his ceiling is as high(er) than Glennon or Smith, but at a fairer price. As a Packer fan, Ponder is fine (seriously though, I liked Ponder coming out and still think he will continue to develop - just not to the ceiling I envisioned or you would like either).

 

[lod01]

I really want to believe in Manziel, but after watching his highlight package again I have no idea what to make of him. It's like watching the Platonic ideal of a dual-threat high school quarterback.

He's so accurate, though. I think his talent translates to the next level.

He will be fine in the new, untouchable QB, NFL. If you can scramble now, and have accuracy throwing the ball, you will start in the NFL without the worry of getting your clock cleaned and finding IR.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I really want to believe in Manziel, but after watching his highlight package again I have no idea what to make of him. It's like watching the Platonic ideal of a dual-threat high school quarterback.

He's so accurate, though. I think his talent translates to the next level.

He will be fine in the new, untouchable QB, NFL. If you can scramble now, and have accuracy throwing the ball, you will start in the NFL without the worry of getting your clock cleaned and finding IR.

Could be, but to my eye he throws a ball that takes a long damn time to get where it's going and NFL DBs close fast. But I don't trust my eyes, so will defer to the NFL. If he's a first round pick I'm on board. If not, I'll probably stay away.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

I am neither but I agree with you and I have read comments from a few in the draft community who are high on him as well. From a value perspective, I feel his ceiling is as high(er) than Glennon or Smith, but at a fairer price. As a Packer fan, Ponder is fine (seriously though, I liked Ponder coming out and still think he will continue to develop - just not to the ceiling I envisioned or you would like either).

Dysert's stats are pretty mediocre, and I am a stat hound, but I think Dysert looks like a real good project QB. I think he's too flat footed when he throws, but his arm strength, accuracy on all throws, ability to throw on the run, and ability to read the defense all really impress me. I also like him a lot more than Glennon.

 

[Donnybrook]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

I am neither but I agree with you and I have read comments from a few in the draft community who are high on him as well. From a value perspective, I feel his ceiling is as high(er) than Glennon or Smith, but at a fairer price. As a Packer fan, Ponder is fine (seriously though, I liked Ponder coming out and still think he will continue to develop - just not to the ceiling I envisioned or you would like either).

Dysert's stats are pretty mediocre, and I am a stat hound, but I think Dysert looks like a real good project QB. I think he's too flat footed when he throws, but his arm strength, accuracy on all throws, ability to throw on the run, and ability to read the defense all really impress me. I also like him a lot more than Glennon.

It will be interesting to see how much of this can be attributed to his surronding cast at Miami. Hopefully he will show some improvement with a different set of wideouts, etc at the Senior bowl.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

I am neither but I agree with you and I have read comments from a few in the draft community who are high on him as well. From a value perspective, I feel his ceiling is as high(er) than Glennon or Smith, but at a fairer price. As a Packer fan, Ponder is fine (seriously though, I liked Ponder coming out and still think he will continue to develop - just not to the ceiling I envisioned or you would like either).

Dysert's stats are pretty mediocre, and I am a stat hound, but I think Dysert looks like a real good project QB. I think he's too flat footed when he throws, but his arm strength, accuracy on all throws, ability to throw on the run, and ability to read the defense all really impress me. I also like him a lot more than Glennon.

It will be interesting to see how much of this can be attributed to his surronding cast at Miami. Hopefully he will show some improvement with a different set of wideouts, etc at the Senior bowl.

Yeah I watched all Dysert's passes against Ohio State on youtube and the Miami WRs definitely dropped a bunch of passes, but Roethlisberger's stats playing for the same school were much better, though it's possible they had better WRs and/or Miami was running a different offense back then.

 

[MAC_32]

I have to say I am developing a man-crush on Zac Dysert as an under-rated QB prospect. (Especially for my Vikings which won't be looking at a QB early (if at all unfortunately)) Any draftnik or homer want to express an opinion on him?

I am neither but I agree with you and I have read comments from a few in the draft community who are high on him as well. From a value perspective, I feel his ceiling is as high(er) than Glennon or Smith, but at a fairer price. As a Packer fan, Ponder is fine (seriously though, I liked Ponder coming out and still think he will continue to develop - just not to the ceiling I envisioned or you would like either).

Dysert's stats are pretty mediocre, and I am a stat hound, but I think Dysert looks like a real good project QB. I think he's too flat footed when he throws, but his arm strength, accuracy on all throws, ability to throw on the run, and ability to read the defense all really impress me. I also like him a lot more than Glennon.

Careful using his stats from this year. Miami changed their system from 2011 to 2012, I don't think the new system was a good fit for Dysert. His pre 2012 game tape is encouraging. Teams with a veteran in place and no real developmental guy on the roster should really study him.

 

[BigTex]

What teams would be good fits for Lacy? Ingram was looking like a high dynasty pick and then New Orleans destroyed his value. Richardson on the otherhand, went to great situation. Lacy really doesn't have much experience catching the ball does he?

He would fit perfectly in Atlanta, IMO.

I agree, Atlanta would suit his skills perfectly.

It seems like Atlanta is moving to a high speed passing attack. I think Lacy is better suited in PIT. I'd like to see Bernard in ATL.

I've often visioned him in ATL but think Indy will snatch him and I can see that as well.

 

[EBF]

I would not count out Stepfan Taylor or Spencer Ware for teams that want a pass catching back. I've seen Taylor run routes out of the slot and I've seen Ware make a lot of plays as a receiver. Stepfan is a bit of a Jekkyl and Hyde for me because sometimes he looks really good and sometimes he looks really average, but when the dust settles he is probably going to find himself as a top 90 pick in this draft. I like him more than I liked Vereen at Cal, and you can see where he was drafted and what he's doing now.

 

[Concept Coop]

I would not count out...Spencer Ware...

I agree. I am a bit surprised his doesn't have more buzz. He is really big and runs well for his size. He seems like a tough player as well.

 

[Concept Coop]

I am all but off the Gio Bernard bandwagon. I have heard the McCoy comparisons, but I don't see it. McCoy is a lot tougher than he is given credit for. I see more Ronnie Hillman when I watch Bernard and I was never a big Hillman guy. If the NFL invests a top pick in him, I'll likely trust them and come around. But right now, I don't really see it.

 

[tdmills]

I am all but off the Gio Bernard bandwagon. I have heard the McCoy comparisons, but I don't see it. McCoy is a lot tougher than he is given credit for. I see more Ronnie Hillman when I watch Bernard and I was never a big Hillman guy. If the NFL invests a top pick in him, I'll likely trust them and come around. But right now, I don't really see it.

Agreed, I don't see anything "special" to his game. Only reason he's getting publicity is because it's a down RB class.

 

[Concept Coop]

Agreed, I don't see anything "special" to his game. Only reason he's getting publicity is because it's a down RB class.

I'll admit - I only watched 1 full UNC game this year (I think), so am going by highlights. But I've watched a lot of his carries and returns and don't get it. I can see him going in the 2nd/3rd, as LaMichael, Ronnie, and Pead did last year. But I don't think he's likely 3 down material. I don't think he is close to the level of David Wilson and I am not 100% sold on him either.

 

[Xue]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

 

[tdmills]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

Vereen is much more explosive IMO. Vereen is also stronger.

 

[Concept Coop]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

How many offenses can make a COP back a top 24 option? New England (potentially), New Orleans - who else?ETA: If the guy is a longshot to be a 3 down back, the odds of them being starting fantasy options are slim.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

Be relevant as a role player when your number gets called in the game plan and two guys higher on the pecking order get hurt? Pass.

 

[MAC_32]

All the different names being tossed around is exactly why I think smart teams needing upgraded RB talent will just wait until late day 2/early day 3 and see who is left. Talent disparity just isn't that great. Carefully monitoring those situations as my late 1st's may be on those guys.

 

[Concept Coop]

All the different names being tossed around is exactly why I think smart teams needing upgraded RB talent will just wait until late day 2/early day 3 and see who is left. Talent disparity just isn't that great. Carefully monitoring those situations as my late 1st's may be on those guys.

Situation will dictate. Every year, despite the class, 2-4 rookies look like the likely starters for their team. Daniel Thomas went top 6-8 despite being drafted in the 3rd, because it looked like he was going to start.

 

[EBF]

Thomas was actually a 2nd round pick. I agree about the RBs though. If I were an NFL GM I think it would take a pretty special back to get me to invest a top 30 pick.Too easy to plug and play at this position.

 

[Concept Coop]

KC has to take Geno, right? Or at least their favorite QB on the board?Who else can they take? They have a solid LT, solid DL with 3 1st rounders invested in it, two good pass rushers. Also, Reid took McNabb despite him not being thought of as a top 3 pick. I think Geno has solid value in rookie drafts assuming he goes #1 to a Reid coached team.

 

[MAC_32]

All the different names being tossed around is exactly why I think smart teams needing upgraded RB talent will just wait until late day 2/early day 3 and see who is left. Talent disparity just isn't that great. Carefully monitoring those situations as my late 1st's may be on those guys.

Situation will dictate. Every year, despite the class, 2-4 rookies look like the likely starters for their team. Daniel Thomas went top 6-8 despite being drafted in the 3rd, because it looked like he was going to start.

I think his teammate Lamar Miller is a better example. Highly regarded talent, slipped to 4th round because of football IQ and health ?'s. New regime in Miami, hand picked their own guy with Thomas (2nd rd pick, 2nd yr player) already in tow and Bush a FA at season's end.Generally speaking, my point was there isn't a big difference between the top of this RB class and the 8th...10th...12th best option. In year's past there has been a noticeable difference. Situation matters more this year than recent ones imho.

 

[MAC_32]

KC has to take Geno, right? Or at least their favorite QB on the board?Who else can they take? They have a solid LT, solid DL with 3 1st rounders invested in it, two good pass rushers. Also, Reid took McNabb despite him not being thought of as a top 3 pick. I think Geno has solid value in rookie drafts assuming he goes #1 to a Reid coached team.

I think it's entirely possible someone drafting later falls in love with Geno and offers two #1's + to move up and get him. Eagles move back and get a lineman or CB, maybe a WR if they can't re-sign Bowe. Reid brings in a free agent or trades for a current backup then drafts a guy day 2. That's more Reid's M.O. Obviously if he looks at Geno and sees what he saw in McNabb then yeah he'll pick him, but if he doesn't see that my bet would be on trading down.

 

[Concept Coop]

KC has to take Geno, right? Or at least their favorite QB on the board?Who else can they take? They have a solid LT, solid DL with 3 1st rounders invested in it, two good pass rushers. Also, Reid took McNabb despite him not being thought of as a top 3 pick. I think Geno has solid value in rookie drafts assuming he goes #1 to a Reid coached team.

I think it's entirely possible someone drafting later falls in love with Geno and offers two #1's + to move up and get him. Eagles move back and get a lineman or CB, maybe a WR if they can't re-sign Bowe. Reid brings in a free agent or trades for a current backup then drafts a guy day 2. That's more Reid's M.O. Obviously if he looks at Geno and sees what he saw in McNabb then yeah he'll pick him, but if he doesn't see that my bet would be on trading down.

Ried has really only drafted a franchise QB once. Kolb was a guy they liked and someone to groom, but I wouldn't say they drafted him as a franchise QB. They couldn't invest 1st round money in Kolb and sit him for years. And they haven't really been in a position to draft a franchise QB under Reid, post-McNabb. I know this class is weak, but the other top prospects don't really fit with the roster. If they can move down, maybe they will. But if they stay put, I think it's Geno.

 

[MAC_32]

Kolb and Foles were both day 2 picks, iirc he has been linked to other day 2 QB's too. When Reid is not in love with a rookie QB he tends to bargain shop later. Yeah, if he stays put it's for Geno, but I think it's very reasonable he trades out if he doesn't and while a flawed prospect there's going to be at least a few teams that fall in love with Geno so there will be a trade down market.

 

[tdmills]

Thomas was actually a 2nd round pick.

I agree about the RBs though. If I were an NFL GM I think it would take a pretty special back to get me to invest a top 30 pick.

Too easy to plug and play at this position.

GB says differently

 

[EBF]

Thomas was actually a 2nd round pick.

I agree about the RBs though. If I were an NFL GM I think it would take a pretty special back to get me to invest a top 30 pick.

Too easy to plug and play at this position.

GB says differently

They're in the playoffs every year despite constantly having a poor RB situation. If anything, they're just proof that you don't need great backs to win in the NFL.

 

[thriftyrocker]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

How many offenses can make a COP back a top 24 option? New England (potentially), New Orleans - who else?ETA: If the guy is a longshot to be a 3 down back, the odds of them being starting fantasy options are slim.

The odds of any RB taken in the first 3 rounds becoming a starting fantasy option are high. The only question is when and for how long.Regardless, both Bernard and Vereen can be 3 down RB. Situation and injury are the main variables on whether that ever happens, not talent.

 

[tdmills]

Thomas was actually a 2nd round pick.

I agree about the RBs though. If I were an NFL GM I think it would take a pretty special back to get me to invest a top 30 pick.

Too easy to plug and play at this position.

GB says differently

They're in the playoffs every year despite constantly having a poor RB situation. If anything, they're just proof that you don't need great backs to win in the NFL.

They're in the playoffs every year because of one player. It says nothing about RBs. Great backs, no you don't need that to win. But you need a competent RB, the Packers haven't had that since Ryan Grant became hurt. As Aaron Rodgers body after his league leading sacks if having a solid RB is important. Or after they're lost in the playoffs 3 of 4 years despite one of the best QB and WR cores in the league.

 

[Concept Coop]

The odds of any RB taken in the first 3 rounds becoming a starting fantasy option are high. The only question is when and for how long.Regardless, both Bernard and Vereen can be 3 down RB. Situation and injury are the main variables on whether that ever happens, not talent.

NFL teams are drafting specialists at the RB position now. SF really liked what Hunter brought to the table and still drafted James to eventually bring a different look. I woudln't say James' odds of being a fantasy starting option are high. An NFL team can absolutely draft a player (say Gio) to be a 3rd down/COP/return man. And, as I said, if the NFL invests a high pick in him, I obviously trust their opinion more than my own. I'll likely come around.Based on what I have seen - and again, who the hell am I? - I don't think he is a close to a 1st round prospect.

 

[Xue]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

How many offenses can make a COP back a top 24 option? New England (potentially), New Orleans - who else?ETA: If the guy is a longshot to be a 3 down back, the odds of them being starting fantasy options are slim.

Vereen would be a starter/feature RB on any other team. It's not his fault the Patriots like to run a committee.

 

[Concept Coop]

Did you guys see what Shane Vereen did this past weekend? Yeah, that's what Bernard can do.

How many offenses can make a COP back a top 24 option? New England (potentially), New Orleans - who else?ETA: If the guy is a longshot to be a 3 down back, the odds of them being starting fantasy options are slim.

Vereen would be a starter/feature RB on any other team. It's not his fault the Patriots like to run a committee.

Let's not go overboard here. He's surely not putting AP on the bench. But I do get your point: he could likely be a 3 down back. You mentioned Vereen's day as a reason to value Gio. But Vereen was playing the Woodhead role because Woodhead was hurt. If that is what Gio offers, he likely won't be a fantasy starter. I wouldn't feel comforable with my NFL team relying on Gio to start and I don't understand or agree with the potential 1st round hype.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Re: Geno Smith...His best comp using only numbers is probably Brian Brohm. Loosening some of the restrictions to pick up a few more QBs you add Sanchez, Ponder and Henne. Not the best group. As a WVU homer I'd love to be wrong, but in this case what the numbers tell me matches up really well with what I actually saw when I watched him play -- he doesn't make decisions quickly, he has trouble working through his progressions, he's slow to recognize pressure in the pocket, and he's not really a running QB in the mold of Wilson or RGIII.