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DYNASTY: Top 2013 College Prospects (2 Viewers)

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Geno Smith's college coach talks NFL potential

04:11 – West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen talks about quarterback Geno Smith's pro day and how he will adapt to the NFL.
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West Virginia Pro Day impressions

01:28 – NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock shares his thoughts on QB Geno Smith and WR Tavon Austin following their pro-day workouts in West Virginia.
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Which teams will pursue Geno Smith?

02:58 – With the 2013 NFL Draft around the corner, which teams are in hot pursuit of quarterback Geno Smith? Mike Mayock breaks down the potential landing spots for the top prospect.
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Mike Mayock talks pro day with Geno Smith

01:47 – Former West Virginia quarterback Geno Smith spoke with NFL Network's Mike Mayock to review his pro day performance in front of NFL general managers and scouts.
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A few from Rotoworld:

NFL Films' Greg Cosell believes Arizona QB Matt Scott has an "overall similar skill set" to Colin Kaepernick. Cosell makes sure to point out that Scott is not quite as big or as strong as Kaepernick, but "can do much of what" the 49ers' quarterback does. Buzz continues to build for the 2012 starter, and he might be a day two selection in April's draft.Source: Greg Cosell on Twitter
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NFL Films' Greg Cosell believes Tennessee QB Tyler Bray has the best "arm talent" among draftable players at the position.Cosell went on to tweet that the "concerns (are) with discipline in pocket, pocket movement, muddied pocket, etc," are the issues holding Bray back. "Key to Bray's NFL career will be coaching. Has impressive physical attributes but needs much work with subtle details of position. A process."Source: Greg Cosell on Twitter
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NFL Films' Greg Cosell believes Florida TE Jordan Reed is "very similar" to Aaron Hernandez"Love him on tape," Cosell tweeted. "Chance to be next "Joker" TE in NFL." Reed is a natural mover with the ball in his hands and shows a willingness to block, although the success is inconsistent. We feel that Hernandez was a more finished product coming out of college, but they do have comparable traits.Source: Greg Cosell on Twitter
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Michigan State RB Le'Veon Bell "could be picked up at the top of the second-round," according to NFL.com's Gil Brandt.Brandt goes on to compare Bell to Chuck Muncie, who finished playing in 1984. He adds that the running back has lost around 20 or 25 pounds since the season, and that can be attributed to working with Lorenzo White during the offseason. We think Bell takes too long to get to the line of scrimmage, but this new playing weight might change that.Source: NFL.com
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Alabama RB Eddie Lacy has said he will work out at the school's final workout session.Head coach Nick Saban is reportedly setting up two additional workout sessions for his players so they can work out in front of NFL personnel men. Lacy has said he will work out at the final one, saying "I'm going to pick the last date possible." He is still nursing a hamstring injury.Source: Tuscaloosa News
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'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'GeeYouknit said:
NFP Mock Draft - Version 8.0
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I laugh at this mock with Geno/Barkley/Nassib all being taken top10
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Oak/Jax/Ariz/Buff all have needs at the position. not out of the question at all.
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Cleveland and the Jets do as well. The coaching staff for the Browns as made it clear that they're not sold on Weeden. Jets... nuff said. Not saying they go QB in the top 10 just pointing out that I agree with you. Six teams that really need a QB... I wouldn't be at all shocked to see 3 go.

 
'Banemorth said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'GeeYouknit said:
NFP Mock Draft - Version 8.0
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I laugh at this mock with Geno/Barkley/Nassib all being taken top10
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Oak/Jax/Ariz/Buff all have needs at the position. not out of the question at all.
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Cleveland and the Jets do as well. The coaching staff for the Browns as made it clear that they're not sold on Weeden. Jets... nuff said. Not saying they go QB in the top 10 just pointing out that I agree with you. Six teams that really need a QB... I wouldn't be at all shocked to see 3 go.
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surprised these guys aint trying to trade for Flynn/Mallet/Cousins/Foles. Outside of Geno Id take any of them guys
 
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Arkansas RB Dennis Johnson ran forty times in the 4.40 to 4.45 range at the school's pro day on Friday.He also recorded a 6.96 three cone, 33-inch vertical, and 9' 11" broad jump. Johnson has been one of our favorite sleepers all season and it is amazing that he did not attend the Shrine Game, Senior Bowl, or NFL Combine. We think he can immediately contribute as a passing down back but needs to fix fumbling issues.Source: Tony Pauline on Twitter
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Scouts Inc. ranks UNC RB Gio Bernard as the No. 114 overall player in the 2013 NFL Draft.Bernard earned a grade of 71, along with four other prospects including CB Jordan Poyer, DE Malliciah Goodman, T Brennan Williams, and WR Tavarres King. We think Bernard has second day skills due to quick cuts to change defenders' tackling angles, but he does not bring the strength to break a large amount of tackles after contact.Source: ESPN
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Draft insider Tony Pauline writes that it looks like Michigan's Denard Robinson "secured a spot for himself in the draft’s second day."Pauline continues "to hear a buzz being built around" Robinson, who worked out at receiver, running back, and as a return specialist. The Michigan product certainly didn't look like a second day pick during the Senior Bowl, but switching positions is always a process.Source: TFY Draft Insider
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Michigan's Denard Robinson worked out at RB and as a returner, along with WR, at the school's pro day on Thursday.Finally. We've been clamoring for Robinson to work out at running back since Michigan's season ended, since he is at his best with the ball in his hands, working patiently behind blockers. NFL.com's Gil Brandt, who previously said he would move Robinson to corner, even admitted that Robinson's best position might be running back.Source: NFL.com
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'Banemorth said:
'bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
'GeeYouknit said:
NFP Mock Draft - Version 8.0
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I laugh at this mock with Geno/Barkley/Nassib all being taken top10
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Oak/Jax/Ariz/Buff all have needs at the position. not out of the question at all.
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Cleveland and the Jets do as well. The coaching staff for the Browns as made it clear that they're not sold on Weeden. Jets... nuff said. Not saying they go QB in the top 10 just pointing out that I agree with you. Six teams that really need a QB... I wouldn't be at all shocked to see 3 go.
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I agree 100% that they all need a QB but you are better off as a franchise to draft a high grade sure thing than take a chance on a flyer. ALl of these franchises have lacked continuity in the last decade because (in my opinion) they reach for players just because of need. If you look at the consistent contenders for playoff spots, they generally have a reputation for drafting based on value, not on need. Don't get me wrong, if someone falls to your spot that you have a need for, which has a high grade for that position based on where you're picking, take him.

 
'wdcrob said:
I've finished my write ups of the QBs and started in on the RBs. Profile links are in my signature.
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Thanks for posting. I agree with you on Bray so you are not that far in the minority! Actually, I've supported Bray for about 2 years now and have certainly received a fair share of crap for it.
 
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Russ Lande of the National Football Post now ranks San Diego State TE Gavin Escobar as the 16th best player in the 2013 NFL Draft.Escobar is not the top tight end, however, with Tyler Eifert checking in at No. 11. Stanford's Zach Ertz is close behind at No. 21. We like Escobar, specifically his ability to catch everything away from his body, but wonder if he will handle physical defenders during his routes.Source: National Football Post
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The Chicago Tribune's Dan Pompei says one NFL front office member compared Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib to Kirk Cousins."His decision-making is suspect, but Nassib is smart and has decent athletic skills," Pompei writes. We think Nassib's arm on short or intermediate targets is much stronger than Cousins', but the latter showed quite well in spot starting duty as a rookie.Source: Chicago Tribune
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ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted that West Virginia WR Tavon Austin "won't make it" to pick No. 23, the Vikings' earliest first-round pick.Austin will be a popular Vikings pick in mock drafts, but it appears as though the electric playmaker won't have to wait that long on draft day. He's not an outside receiver, but Austin makes plays with the ball in his hands and has very quick movement skills to create separation. Some will call him small, but Austin never missed a single practice in college.Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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Michigan State TE Dion Sims and RB Le'Veon Bell recently had dinner with the Pittsburgh Steelers.Bell and Sims dined on Tuesday night with Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin. The Steelers could use another running back after losing Rashard Mendenhall to the Arizona Cardinals in free agency. They're also always looking to add tight ends, which potentially makes Sims a target for the team in the mid-rounds.Source: Mlive.com
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National Football Post's Russ Lande writes that teams view Michigan QB/WR Denard Robinson as a slot receiver."He not only went through receiver drills, but also was put through running back drills as many teams believe that while his long term future is as a slot receiver, the fastest way for him to get on the field as a rookie will be as a third down back," Lande said in reference Robinson's pro day.Source: National Football Post
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Michigan State TE Dion Sims and RB Le'Veon Bell recently had dinner with the Pittsburgh Steelers.Bell and Sims dined on Tuesday night with Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin. The Steelers could use another running back after losing Rashard Mendenhall to the Arizona Cardinals in free agency. They're also always looking to add tight ends, which potentially makes Sims a target for the team in the mid-rounds.Source: Mlive.com
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Bell to the Steelers in the 3rd if he's there.
 
'Faust said:
Mock Draft No. 4: Geno Smith can't pass Barkley despite huge pro day
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The below pick seems way off to me... Jeffrey and the 'black unicorn' should compliment Marshall just fine. They have bigger needs on OL (even with the Bushrod signing), or could stand to do some restocking on D. I'd be shocked if they took a WR in the first.

20. Chicago Bears -- Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee: The Bears are fixing their offensive-line problems in free agency and have a chance to take the highest rated wide receiver on the board to compliment Brandon Marshall.
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'plastik said:
'Faust said:
Mock Draft No. 4: Geno Smith can't pass Barkley despite huge pro day
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The below pick seems way off to me... Jeffrey and the 'black unicorn' should compliment Marshall just fine. They have bigger needs on OL (even with the Bushrod signing), or could stand to do some restocking on D. I'd be shocked if they took a WR in the first.

20. Chicago Bears -- Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee: The Bears are fixing their offensive-line problems in free agency and have a chance to take the highest rated wide receiver on the board to compliment Brandon Marshall.
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That and Tavon Auston lasting till the 25th pick. GM's LOVES them some speed and crappy QB's in the first.
 
'Donnybrook said:
'cstu said:
Any more news on this guy?
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I had to sift through a tonne of BS on Gardner's twitter account to find out that his pro day is on March 13th. I have no idea where it is being held.
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From what I gather he worked out at Nevada's pro day. Don't have any numbers, but did find some new info on him:http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/3/18/4119968/an-introduction-to-courtney-gardner
When I spoke to Courtney, he stated that he had just finished a workout for the New England Patriots in Reno, Nevada, where he is training. He said that his agent has been contacted by numerous teams, including the Jets, San Diego Chargers, Carolina Panthers, and Miami Dolphins. In short, it seems as though Courtney is a near lock to be drafted, and I suspect that the fifth round would be an appropriate place for him.
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Not sure I agree with the conclusion, but if nothing else teams are sniffing around. He will be a big risk given that he never played higher than the JC level and has some character/intelligence/work ethic questions.
 
A few from Rotoworld:

NFL.com's Daniel Jeremiah doesn't believe FSU QB E.J. Manuel is a franchise QB."I think he's more of a project, I think he's someone you work with. You try and develop him for a couple of years and maybe you can have someone that can start for your football team down the line. But never did I watch him and think I was watching a franchise quarterback," Jeremiah said. "I saw someone that had very raw footwork, needed to get better in that area. Is aw someone that had some really poor misses on tape. You don't want to see that from a franchise guy." He added that what Manuel does is not "natural" to him and "not easy".Source: NFL.com
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NFL.com's Charles Davis thinks Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson is better than Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib."I know a lot of people really like Ryan Nassib, I like Tyler Wilson better... I don't think either one of them has an elite gun but I've always liked what Tyler Wilson brought to the table. I like his competitiveness, I like his consistency, I think he's a better overall thrower," Davis said. He added he expects Wilson to go no later than the third round but he's "not sure" he becomes a full-time starter in the NFL. Davis also compared Wilson to Washington Redskins backup quarterback Kirk Cousins.Source: NFL.com
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West Virginia QB Geno Smith will have a private workout with the Cleveland Browns.Browns CEO Joe Banner added that the team hasn't ruled out taking a quarterback in the draft and declined to discuss rumored interest in New England Patriots backup quarterback Ryan Mallett. The Browns may be in need of a quarterback despite selecting Brandon Weeden last year in the first round.Source: Cleveland.com
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West Virginia QB Geno Smith is scheduled to meet with the Buffalo Bills on Friday.The Eagles and Jaguars have shown the most interest in Geno thus far, but more buzz around the Bills possible decision will likely surface after Friday's workout. Many have connected Ryan Nassib and Doug Marrone to reunite in Buffalo, but Marrone knows Smith's talent well after coaching against him.Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
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Scouts Inc. ranks Oregon State WR Markus Wheaton as the 87th best prospect in the 2013 NFL Draft.This puts Wheaton as the 10th best receiver in the draft. We like Wheaton quite a bit more, but the top of the receiver class is very good, with a nice blend of outside and slot targets. The Oregon State Beaver made a living taking the top off coverages, but his ability to break off his routes with speed is very good.Source: ESPN
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'JAA said:
'Faust said:
2013 NFL Draft: FSU's E.J. Manuel draws split opinions
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In the first draft after Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson took the NFL by storm, Florida State's 6-5, 240-pound E.J. Manuel is this year's most exciting dual-threat quarterback.
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I dont get this. Geno is faster, ran the read-option in his first 2 years, and is a much better decision make than Manuel. I dont get the love.
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Yes this is why we get QB's that should be 3rd rounders or later and projects drafted in the first round and high in the first round...
 
The Shutdown 50: North Carolina State QB Mike Glennon

By Doug Farrar

41. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State

We continue this year's series with North Carolina State's Mike Glennon, one member of a quarterback class that has been perhaps unfairly maligned, standing in the shadows of a 2012 class that gave us Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson. At least the 6-foot-7 Glennon is used to standing in the 5-foot-11 shadow of Wilson; he had to wait until Wilson transferred from N.C. State to Wisconsin in 2011 before he could be a starter in college. Glennon showed flashes of the ability that made him one of the most prized high school recruits in the country in 2007.

In his first year as a starter, Glennon completed 283 passes in 453 attempts for 3,054 yards, 31 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. However, the burden of production shifted far more to Glennon's shoulders in 2012, and that wasn't always a good thing. He led the ACC in interceptions with 17, while attempting over 100 more passes and throwing for over 1,000 more yards. Estimable production and frustrating mistakes? That was the snapshot view of Glennon's time in Raleigh.

At the Senior Bowl, Glennon looked great in practices, when he didn't have pass rushers bearing down on him, and he could show off his amazing throwing arm. But in the game itself, that old bugaboo of his -- severe inconsistency under pressure -- reared its ugly head. Glennon completed eight of 16 passes in the game for 82 yards, no touchdowns and a pick. Teams in love with pure physical attributes will surely value Glennon highly, but when you watch the game tape, there's a lot to worry about. The version of Mike Glennon we see in the NFL will depend a great deal on coaching, scheme and personnel.

Pros: Glennon displays a smooth and consistent dropback form on long passes that require five-and seven-stop drops. His footwork isn't choppy, and he times the rock from his back foot to the throw on his plant foot well. More mobile than he looks; will bail out of pressure, especially to his right, and make throws (though accuracy is something we'll talk about later). When moving in and around the pocket, tends to reset pretty quickly and keeps his eyes downfield. Can roll right off of boot action and make tough throws downfield. Has an easy, quick, relatively compact delivery (a little hitch when he's bringing the ball back to the side of his head), and the ball just zings off his hand.

Can make deep and stick throws with relatively little effort. Good touch on those deeper throws -- he doesn't hang everything on a rope, and he has a decent (if spotty) sense of timing up his receivers on vertical routes. When he's in a rhythm, can make every throw on the route tree. Experience in a West Coast-style offense; will be more comfortable with NFL verbiage and concepts than some other quarterbacks in this draft class.

Cons: While Glennon has good overall technique on longer throws, his ability to read more advanced coverages -- blitzes, corners jumping routes, and things like that -- remains very much a work in progress. Will throw into multiple coverages with obviously converging defensive backs, and you have to wonder what the heck he's thinking at times. Tends to plant an idea in his head of where a receiver should be, and throws there whether said receiver has been disrupted from his assigned route or not.

More a "see it and throw it" player than the kind of quarterback who will re-#### and adjust on the fly. That works pretty well for quarterbacks in offenses with a lot of shorter timing throws (Brandon Weeden was a prime example at Oklahoma State), but I think it explains a lot of Glennon's really questionable throws in NC State's deeper passing offense. Tends to be wildly inaccurate when throwing under pressure -- that's a debit which shows up on tape and also was very obvious during Senior Bowl week.

Doesn't throw his receivers open -- there's not a lot of tape in which he's throwing with anticipation on or before a breaking route. Has a tendency to step back in the pocket on pressure throws, which throws off his footwork and leads to still more inaccuracy.

Conclusion: I started my study of Glennon with the tape of his 2012 game against Florida State because he had to deal with Bjoern Werner and Tank Carradine as pass rushers. I had serious questions about Glennon's ability to deal with pressure. Safe to say, my concerns were not minimized as that was by far the worst game I watched in which he was the primary subject. Against teams exhibiting less pressure on a snap-to-snap basis, however, Glennon is a very good ball distributor, capable of carrying and extending drives in an offense that places serious volume demands on the passer. Glennon attempted more than 40 passes in 10 of his 13 games in 2012, and more than 50 in four of those.

The Wolfpack were 18th in passing yards and 111th in rushing yards last season, which gives you a good example of their priorities. That didn't serve Glennon very well. When you have a tall, gangly quarterback who is a completely different player under pressure, you want to establish a running game to switch the focus and allow him to use play action. That's what the Baltimore Ravens did with Joe Flacco, the man to whom Glennon is most often compared. I don't yet see that level of proficiency, but had Flacco gone to a team with a less-interesting running game, he might look a lot more like Mike Glennon. I like Glennon's arm, delivery, relative mobility and toughness. But the stuff that happens when the ball leaves his hand -- well, that gives me pause.

I believe that in time and in the right system, Glennon could be a franchise-level NFL quarterback, but that characterization requires a lot of projection at this point. He is far from the scheme-transcendent quarterbacks we saw in last year's draft. Like every other signal-caller in his class, Mike Glennon needs a little more help around him to make it all go. For now, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he reminds me of a very average NFL quarterback in his best season. We'll see if Glennon grows as a player, and whether there will be more in line to help him succeed. Put him in a three-digit vertical system with extra blockers, and you might have something.

NFL Comparison: Derek Anderson, 2007 Cleveland Browns
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Is EJ Manuel a better prospect than Christian Ponder?

By Dan Hanzus

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EJ Manuel got another chance Tuesday to move his way up draft boards at Florida State's pro day.

NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock believed the quarterback did nothing to hurt his value after watching his workout. According to Mayock, Manuel made 54 scripted throws that highlighted his arm strength and movement skills.

In his latest positional breakdown, Mayock listed Manuel as the second-best quarterback in his draft class behind West Virginia's Geno Smith. On Tuesday, Mayock made an interesting comparison in judging Manuel's potential.

"I think he's a better prospect than Christian Ponder was two years ago with more upside," Mayock said on NFL Network's "Path To The Draft."

Ponder was the 12th overall pick by the Minnesota Vikings in the 2011 NFL Draft.

"In all honesty, I had Ponder a second-round guy and Minnesota took him pretty high, and the jury is still out there," Mayock said. "I think this kid (Manuel) has better arm talent, he's a bigger, more physical specimen and really his ceiling is higher. Now, I don't know if his floor is as high, but his ceiling is higher."

Does that make Manuel a rich-man's Christian Ponder? And if so, is that a good thing? Opinions certainly vary on Ponder, which makes Mayock's comparison tough to evaluate.

You can say the same about this entire quarterback class.
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NFL Films' Greg Cosell questioned why West Virginia WR Tavon Austin isn't considered a top 10 selection."Most explosive playmaker in draft," Cosell tweeted. "Can align anywhere. Matchup nightmare. Could be caught in transition phase in NFL. More of space game now. More multiple uses for players like Austin. Like Cobb in GB last season." Cosell added that Austin isn't just a slot receiver, "he is more than that."Source: Greg Cosell on Twitter
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NFL Films' Greg Cosell believes Tennessee WR Cordarrelle Patterson does not show the same explosion in his route running as he does with the ball in his hands.Patterson "needs a lot of refinement running routes," Cosell tweeted. "Needs (a) quality WR coach." We've said the same about Patterson, but somehow he consistently created separation at the FBS level in 2012. Team will have to project his route tree, however.Source: Greg Cosell on Twitter
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ESPN's Chris Mortensen believes the Cardinals are targeting NC State QB Mike Glennon, but not necessarily at pick No. 7."I really believe the guy they're hoping to get somewhere, whether it's in the second round ... is Mike Glennon," said Mortensen. "Their new head coach, Bruce Arians, likes big guys with big arms who can get the ball downfield." Our own Josh Norris previously mocked Glennon to the Cardinals at No. 7, but we think Arians is happy to stick with Stanton as the starter this year. Gelnnon could be a target at No. 38.
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SI.com's Don Banks writes that the Jaguars were "more impressed than they were prepared to be" when they worked out West Virginia QB Geno Smith."I sat down one on one with him and I just wanted to see how he would be once he entered our building, our stadium," Bradley told Banks. "Are people going to gravitate towards him? Is he going to be a leader? Is he a guy that everybody will back and will he allow that to happen? I wanted to see how competitive is he going to be. Is he going to step into the building and it's like his team and somebody has to take it away from him? Really it was just to get a better feel for his mindset, and we had a great talk. I was very impressed with him at the meeting. I had high expectations, but I think he exceeded them. I came out of it feeling even better." Source: SI.com
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Buffalo Bills GM Buddy Nix revealed that his team will work out USC QB Matt Barkley."We’re going to have a private workout for Matt, and for about five or six of them," Nix said. "We’ll have a private workout with all those guys. The more you see them, the more you learn." When asked about what he learns from private workouts, Nix said, "I think the physical part is over-rated. What makes it so hard to evaluate that position are the intangibles. That’s what you try to learn. This guy could very well be the face of your franchise — good chance of that. So you want to be as sure as you can be about that." Source: Canoe Blogs
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NFL.com's Gil Brandt writes that Rice TE Vance McDonald could go in the Top 70 picks after his impressive pro day."McDonald stood on his numbers from the NFL Scouting Combine. He did, however, participate in the positional workout, in which he started slowly," Brandt writes. "He had a couple of drops, but then caught everything. McDonald — who is explosive in the hips — also looked good in the blocking drills. It was a good show for the fast-rising tight end prospect, who has risen from virtual obscurity to likely being selected somewhere between picks No. 50-70 in the 2013 NFL Draft. This player could be very good in the NFL."Source: NFL.com
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'JAA said:
'Faust said:
2013 NFL Draft: FSU's E.J. Manuel draws split opinions
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In the first draft after Colin Kaepernick, Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson took the NFL by storm, Florida State's 6-5, 240-pound E.J. Manuel is this year's most exciting dual-threat quarterback.
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I dont get this. Geno is faster, ran the read-option in his first 2 years, and is a much better decision make than Manuel. I dont get the love.
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It is not about being fast it is about being an effective runner. Geno hasn't been very effective running the ball. He has 1.4 yards per carry for his college career. Manuel averages 2.8 yards per carry which puts on par with Ponder as an efficient runner. I agree that Manuel is not going to like Kaepernick or RGIII like in the NFL.
 
'Xue said:
I don't get what is special about Cosell. He states things we already know.
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He's newer to evaluating the draft. His other stuff, about NFL veterans, is much deeper. He doesn't go with the general consensus, but also isn't just trying to be a contrarian. He just goes with what he sees on tape.
 
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'jonboltz said:
'TheFanatic said:
'Faust said:
NFL Mock Draft 4.0: Dion Jordan rises to No. 2
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Falcons taking a TE in the first after Gonzo says he's coming back. Interesting...
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Since Gonzo is likely retiring after this year (again), and since rookie TEs normally don't produce a ton in year 1, I believe this would be a great pick for them to keep rolling in 2014.
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I don't disagree. It will likely push the rookie back down the draft order a bit with little production likely this year, but overall I like it...
 
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