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DYNASTY: Top 2013 College Prospects (1 Viewer)

Lattimore is no McGahee. He wouldn't have been in the running for best RB in a typical draft class. Just happened to be the de facto #1 this year because the group is so weak at the top. I feel bad for him because he might never get that NFL paycheck, but at least he has the option of staying in school, getting a degree, and maybe proving himself for a future draft.
I would spend a 7th round pick on him and I expect some other team to do that same. Even if he makes $500k that's far more than his tuition. If he goes back to school and plays decent all that does is make him a middle round pick anyway with his injury history and he'll have lost $1M in the two years (assuming he won't play next year and will play in 2014).
 
Big Board: Time for prospects to translate talent into production

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

Oct. 31, 2012 11:54 PM ET

Entering the final month of the regular season of college football, scouts are beginning to look past athletes with great potential to focus on players who have turned potential into tangible production.

Texas A&M's Damontre Moore and Missouri's Sheldon Richardson didn't enter the 2012 season with as much hype as other SEC defensive linemen but each has starred in his first season in the league.

Inconsistency from preseason Heisman candidates Matt Barkley (USC) and Tyler Wilson (Arkansas) has their stock sliding with NFL teams looking to the draft for a potential franchise signal-caller. On the other hand, as the months get colder it is becoming increasingly difficult for scouts not to acknowledge the hot hand of North Carolina State's Mike Glennon and Alabama's AJ McCarron.

This isn't a mock draft. There is no attention given to team needs or what order NFL teams might be selecting in April.

It is simply a ranking of the 40 best potentially NFL Draft-eligible prospects in the entire country.

Underclassmen are denoted with an asterisk (*).

1. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: With the Utes struggling this season, Lotulelei hasn't received the national exposure that his ranking among NFL scouts warrants. His highly celebrated performance against Southern Cal and NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated senior center Khaled Holmes Oct. 4 showed just what a one-man wrecking crew Lotulelei can be. He isn't the consensus No. 1 overall pick, but few scouts expect that he'll make it out of the top five.

2. * Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State: Like Lotulelei, Hankins lacks the eye-popping numbers to spark media and fan excitement. Scouts, however, see a remarkably athletic defender, who at 6-3, 320 pounds can line up at nose guard, defensive tackle and even as a five-technique defensive end and command double teams.

3. * Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M: Despite having earned all-conference accolades each of his two seasons starting at left tackle in the Big 12, talent evaluators wanted to see how well Joeckel would be able to handle the transition to the speed and power of the SEC. Joeckel has performed brilliantly, including shining against LSU's Sam Montgomery and Barkevious Mingo on October 20. Just as Matt Kalil emerged from the pack to be the unquestioned top blocker in the draft a year ago, Joeckel, a junior, is beginning to pull away from the rest of the class.

4. * Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia: Medical concerns will ultimately dictate Jones' final draft grade but there is no questioning his ability to make impactful plays when he's on the field. Just as he did a year ago against Florida (four sacks), Jones was dynamic in an October 27 upset over the Gators, logging a career-high 13 tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss and three sacks. He forced and recovered two fumbles, leading to his being named the Walter Camp, Bronko Nagurski and SEC Defensive Player of the Week.

5. * Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M: Scouts talk all the time about the important of judging players as their level of competition increases. With the Aggies making the jump to the SEC and Moore, specifically, switching from A&M's "Joker" position to full-time defensive end, some expected him to need time to acclimate. Instead, at a relatively lean 6-4, 250 pounds, he has dominated, leading the country in tackles for loss (17) and ranking second in sacks (10.5).

6. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame: It seems that every year there is a high profile defender who earns some buzz as a Heisman contender. A few years back it was Ndamukong Suh. A year ago it was LSU's Tyrann Mathieu. This season, it is Te'o. With all due respect to Notre Dame's "skill-position" players, there is no question that the Irish's playmaking middle linebacker is the team's best player and biggest reason for their impressive start. I don't anticipate that Te'o will ultimately be drafted this high but he ranks among the relatively "sure things" of this year's draft class.

7. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia: In breezing through the first half of the regular season to post 24 touchdowns against zero interceptions, Smith appeared to have won the inside track to the Heisman Trophy and the No. 1 overall pick of the 2013 draft. Shockingly pedestrian performances against Texas Tech and Kansas State over the past two weeks, however, proved just how difficult it is to maintain steady brilliance throughout an entire season. Even with the struggles, scouts love Smith's combination of size, arm strength, accuracy and mobility.

8. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama: Offensive linemen rarely get the limelight, but it might be even worse for Warmack than most. Not only do the "skill-position" and defensive stars for Bama generate virtually all of the attention, Warmack is overshadowed even among the Tide's blockers. Athletic and powerful, he just might be the best pure guard in the country.

9. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M: Considering that he is the son of Hall of Famer Bruce Matthews of Houston Oilers and Tennessee Titans fame, greatness has been expected of Jake Matthews his entire life. He's lived up to the lofty expectations, starting since his true freshman season at right tackle for the Aggies. While not as athletic as his teammate, left tackle Luke Joeckel, Matthews is the better and more physical run blocker of the two.

10. * Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU: I am as fascinated by Mingo's athleticism, flexibility, explosiveness and surprising strength at 6-5, 240 pounds as every other talent evaluator, but at some point all of those traits have got to start turning into big plays. Mingo's upside appears to be limitless, but he has just three sacks and four tackles for loss thus far this season. With top-ranked Alabama on tap Saturday, Mingo could certainly re-energize his stock with a breakthrough performance.

11. * Keenan Allen, WR, California: An exceptional and highly regarded prep prospect who originally was going to sign with Nick Saban and the Crimson Tide as a safety before joining his brother (quarterback Zach Maynard) at Cal, Allen possesses all of the physical characteristics to warrant a top-10 selection. Barring an upset, he will be the first receiver selected in the 2013 NFL Draft.

12. Barrett Jones, OL, Alabama: Whether at tackle, guard or center Jones has demonstrated that he's dependable against the elite competition in college football. I'm not going to go as far as Nick Saban and mention the name of Hall of Famer Bruce Matthews when making a case for listing the defending Outland Trophy and Jacobs Blocking Trophy award winner here, but ... Oops, I guess I just did.

13. * Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan: Arguably the most physically imposing player in the country, the 6-7, 302 pound Lewan looks like the second-coming of Jake Long wearing No. 77 in the Michigan maize and blue. Lewan, who only made the switch to offensive line as a senior in high school, is certainly behind the No. 1 overall pick of the 2008 draft in terms of development but the size, athleticism and mentality are in place to resume the Wolverines' tradition of churning out quality NFL offensive linemen.

14. Johnathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia: At a massive 6-3, 358 pounds Jenkins is the behemoth in the middle that gives a talented Bulldogs' defense its biggest bite. Like most defenders of his size, Jenkins isn't going to post eye-popping statistics, but as the high draft selections of Dontari Poe (11), Phil Taylor (21) and Dan Williams (26) suggest, one dominant season on the inside can cause NFL teams to look past inconsistent production over a career.

15. * Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama: It has almost become cliché to characterize the Alabama program under Nick Saban as a team that reloads rather than rebuilds. In the case of the true junior Milliner, who entered the 2012 season with 17 career starts and currently leads the SEC with an average of 2.14 pass breakups per game, Alabama appears to have yet another first-round talent.

16. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas: In today's NFL, defensive ends are largely graded on their ability to wreak havoc on the quarterback. Okafor does not possess the elite explosiveness off the snap that generally warrants top-20 consideration, but his physicality and hand usage are top notch. He used these skills to register two sacks, two forced fumbles and a blocked field goal in the showdown against Geno Smith and West Virginia. He'll need to be even better now with his counterpart Jackson Jeffcoat being lost for the season due to a torn pectoral muscle.

17. * Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU: Blessed with an unbelievable combination of speed and size (6-5, 260 pounds) Montgomery certainly looks the part of a top-10 pick. He's enjoyed better production thus far this season (23 tackles, including nine tackles for loss, four sacks) than his teammate, Mingo, but isn't as quick when changing direction. With a frantic home crowd making the snap count difficult to hear, LSU's pass rushers should have a good chance at making big plays against top-ranked Alabama November 3.

18. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State: Eight of the 15 defensive backs drafted in the first round since 2010 have come from the SEC. The 6-1, 185-pound Banks certainly looks poised to continue that trend, especially if he keeps making big plays. Banks has 15 career interceptions, three of which he's returned for touchdowns.

19. * Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri: Whereas some of the top defensive tackles in the country lack eye-popping statistics, Richardson is enjoying a breakout campaign for the Tigers, thus far accomplishing the rare feat of leading his team in total tackles (57) from the interior defensive line. Richardson gaudy tackles numbers haven't just been pedestrian stops either, as in the case of his tackle, forced fumble and 60-yard return in Mizzou's Homecoming victory October 27 vs. Kentucky.

20. * Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State: After starting off the season on fire, the German-born Werner appeared to cool off as the Seminoles began conference play. A strong performance against Miami October 20 (three tackles, including 1.5 sacks), however, eased concerns that the 6-4, 255-pounder had dropped too much weight from a year ago. Blessed with a quick first step, heavy hands and surprising instincts given his relative lack of time in the game, Werner ranks as one of the more intriguing pass rushers in the country.

21.* Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon: At a rangy 6-6, 243 pounds Jordan's length and explosiveness off the edge makes him a matchup nightmare for opponents. The junior, who led the Ducks a year ago with 13 tackles for loss and 7.5 sacks, is earning high marks from scouts who believe he could be one of this year's most exciting "hybrid" prospects.

22. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame: While perhaps lacking the elite breakaway speed that has helped Jimmy Graham and Rob Gronkowski emerge as relatively instant NFL stars, Eifert's 6-5, 252-pound frame and excellent ball skills make him a legitimate mismatch. In today's pass-happy NFL, that could be enough to earn a late first-round selection.

23. Matt Barkley, QB, Southern Cal: Though he'll likely be drafted high due to the value of the quarterback position and all of his intangibles, the simple fact is that the 6-2, 220-pound Barkley does not possess elite physical traits. I believe he'll wind up being a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, but Barkley is far from the guaranteed prospect he's been labeled. Some scouts are struggling to even give him a first-round grade, at all.

24. * Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee: At 6-4, 200 pounds Hunter has the physical traits to warrant top-20 consideration. He is starting to show the same explosiveness he possessed prior to tearing his ACL a year ago against Florida. Hunter has struggled with consistency thus far this season, however, dropping some relatively easy passes that could have gone for big gains (or scores) in high profile games against Alabama, Mississippi State and Florida.

25. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan: While he lacks the name recognition of some of his peers, the 6-8, 305-pound Fisher ranks among the top senior offensive tackles in the country, performing well in showdowns against Iowa, Michigan State and against a surprisingly dangerous pass-rushing Toledo defense. Physical and athletic, Fisher will compete to be the first senior offensive tackle drafted come April.

26. * Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia: Jarvis Jones gets much of the hype for the Bulldogs and for good reason, but since returning to the field after serving a four-game suspension to start the season, Ogletree has averaged nearly 10 stops a game, demonstrating the combination of size and athleticism to play inside or out at the next level.

27. * Eric Reid, FS, LSU: Reid entered the 2012 season with plenty of fanfare but hasn't produced many game-changing plays. Though I love his physicality and closing speed, there is growing sentiment that Reid lacks the fluidity and coverage skills to remain at free safety in the pass-heavy NFL. Reid seems to be pressing this season and a bone-headed personal foul against Texas A&M on Oct. 20 will not go unnoticed by scouts.

28. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina: NFL teams are generally loathe to spend first-round picks on guards but with the steady Cooper, an exception may have to be made. Cooper has excellent agility, demonstrating the ability to quickly get to the second level and block on the move. His terrific blocking has helped Tar Heels' running back Giovani Bernard -- a legitimate high round prospect himself -- rush for an average of nearly 133 yards per game this season.

29. Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas: Having been knocked out of two games with head injuries in just a season-and-a-half as the Razorbacks' starting quarterback, Wilson's ultimate draft grade could hinge on his medical report. Scouts like his arm strength and toughness and were hopeful that he was past this year's early season inconsistency. A tough game against Ole Miss (two interceptions in a home loss), however, once again has his stock slipping.

30. * Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee: Considering that he's only played eight games at the FBS level thus far, it would be easy to simply look past the stellar play Patterson has put forth as a receiver, runner and kick returner for the Vols -- especially given that defenses have often focused on stopping Hunter. Patterson is a bit rough around the edges as a route-runner, but the 6-3, 205-pounder is undeniably a playmaker.

31. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama: With only 13 tackles so far this season, this native Australian has hardly provided an all-world performance thus far, statistically speaking. The 6-3, 320-pounder possesses phenomenal strength, even for Alabama (and Australia) standards. Capable of lining up inside at nose guard or moving outside as a five-technique defensive end, he's earning much more attention from NFL scouts than the national media.

32. Dallas Thomas OL, Tennessee: NFL scouts love versatility in their offensive linemen and Thomas certainly possesses that, having starred at left tackle and guard throughout his career for the Volunteers. As he's done each game this season, Thomas began the game against South Carolina on Oct. 27 inside at left guard but proved more than capable of sliding back to the blindside against the nation's top defensive end Jadeveon Clowney when injuries forced the Vols to shuffle their offensive line.

Just Missed the Cut:

33. * Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida

34. * Corey Lemonier, DE, Auburn

35. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

36. Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia

37. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State

38. * Louis Nix III, DT, Notre Dame

39. * AJ McCarron, QB, Alabama

40. Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
 
keep an eye/ear out for Keenan Allen status updates. Saw this blurb on Rotoworld:

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/130835/keenan-allen

Cal junior WR Keenan Allen did not practice on Wednesday and one report states that he was "hurt badly" on an onside kick against Utah.

No other information was disclosed, but it is a bad sign that Allen was not even on the practice field. The junior is likely considered the top draft eligible receiver prospect in this class, but an injury could set him back during the postseason process. In a down season for Cal, Allen has 737 receiving yards and six touchdowns on 61 receptions. Nov 1 - 10:08 AM

Source: Ryan Gorcey on Twitter

This could be some assumption on Twitter, but I didn't see the play in question.

 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?

 
Lattimore is no McGahee. He wouldn't have been in the running for best RB in a typical draft class. Just happened to be the de facto #1 this year because the group is so weak at the top. I feel bad for him because he might never get that NFL paycheck, but at least he has the option of staying in school, getting a degree, and maybe proving himself for a future draft.
I would spend a 7th round pick on him and I expect some other team to do that same. Even if he makes $500k that's far more than his tuition. If he goes back to school and plays decent all that does is make him a middle round pick anyway with his injury history and he'll have lost $1M in the two years (assuming he won't play next year and will play in 2014).
I would have to think even higher than a 7th, right? It was a freak hit that could have happened to anyone. If he was a 1st rounder before it, I would have to think 4th-5th or so now? Just a wild guess, as is anything right now.
 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
Based on what I've read he takes baggage to a whole new level. He's the type I'll consider a late flier on, but I would hate for my Browns to take him anytime before the end of day 3.
 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
Based on what I've read he takes baggage to a whole new level. He's the type I'll consider a late flier on, but I would hate for my Browns to take him anytime before the end of day 3.
I agree MAC - wouldn't want my NFL team to take him any earlier than that either (they wouldn't since Thompson doesn't work that way). Considering the weaknesses in this class, though, I may actually consider him earlier than normal in rookie drafts. 18th+ overall seem about right to take the risk in your opinion (or opinions from others)?
 
Lattimore is no McGahee. He wouldn't have been in the running for best RB in a typical draft class. Just happened to be the de facto #1 this year because the group is so weak at the top. I feel bad for him because he might never get that NFL paycheck, but at least he has the option of staying in school, getting a degree, and maybe proving himself for a future draft.
I would spend a 7th round pick on him and I expect some other team to do that same. Even if he makes $500k that's far more than his tuition. If he goes back to school and plays decent all that does is make him a middle round pick anyway with his injury history and he'll have lost $1M in the two years (assuming he won't play next year and will play in 2014).
I would have to think even higher than a 7th, right? It was a freak hit that could have happened to anyone. If he was a 1st rounder before it, I would have to think 4th-5th or so now? Just a wild guess, as is anything right now.
I do think he could be a 4th round pick if his surgery and recovery go well by April. Michael Bush's injury wasn't quite as serious but he was taken in the 4th despite the Raiders knowing he wouldn't play his rookie year. Someone that needs a RB is going to take a chance on the kid's potential and he'll at least get paid next year instead of sitting at home rehabbing.
 
keep an eye/ear out for Keenan Allen status updates. Saw this blurb on Rotoworld:http://www.rotoworld.com/player/cfb/130835/keenan-allen Cal junior WR Keenan Allen did not practice on Wednesday and one report states that he was "hurt badly" on an onside kick against Utah.No other information was disclosed, but it is a bad sign that Allen was not even on the practice field. The junior is likely considered the top draft eligible receiver prospect in this class, but an injury could set him back during the postseason process. In a down season for Cal, Allen has 737 receiving yards and six touchdowns on 61 receptions. Nov 1 - 10:08 AMSource: Ryan Gorcey on Twitter This could be some assumption on Twitter, but I didn't see the play in question.
https://twitter.com/RGBearTerritory/status/264054606202556416Allen out 2-3 weeks with PCL injury. Tedford not ruling him out for the season.
 
He does have a proven track record, and would have been a 1st round pick even after the first major injury. You can pick and chose numbers to make almost anyone in the SEC look bad. Especially when you include games in which he was much less than 100%. And 93 on 23 is a great game against that Bama D.
They were 10th against the run that year. It was a decent to good run D with a lot of talent but let's not get all bama crazy.I don't disagree with him being a 1st round pick after the first major injury. My point is basically now he needs to come back for another year to rehab and prove he's worth anything more than a late round flier. Not just the injury history but the severity of the most recent injury. His proven track record is crushing bad run D's and struggling versus elite ones.
 
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He does have a proven track record, and would have been a 1st round pick even after the first major injury. You can pick and chose numbers to make almost anyone in the SEC look bad. Especially when you include games in which he was much less than 100%. And 93 on 23 is a great game against that Bama D.
They were 10th against the run that year. It was a decent to good run D with a lot of talent but let's not get all bama crazy.I don't disagree with him being a 1st round pick after the first major injury. My point is basically now he needs to come back for another year to rehab and prove he's worth anything more than a late round flier. Not just the injury history but the severity of the most recent injury. His proven track record is crushing bad run D's and struggling versus elite ones.
Let's not get Bama crazy? They were 10th in the nation playing in the SEC against some very good running teams. Very clearly elite. And his track record speaks for itself and doesn't need to be improved. If he comes back to show he is healthy, fine. But he is a first round pick based on his production, which shouldn't be logically questioned. What runningbacks don't struggle against elite defenses?ETA: "decent to good?" :confused:
 
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One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
He's a nucklehead with a weed problem. Late round pick at beat.
 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
He's a nucklehead with a weed problem. Late round pick at beat.
We've seen knucklehead receivers do well before.
 
https://twitter.com/...054606202556416

Allen out 2-3 weeks with PCL injury. Tedford not ruling him out for the season.
Given that the Bears' season is over in three weeks unless we beat Washington, Oregon and Oregon State, it seems unlikely we'll see Allen again in a Cal uniform. At best, in the Oregon State game 11/17.
Relieved that's all it was. There's a very good chance I'll have the 1.01 and he's on a short list for the pick.
 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
He's a nucklehead with a weed problem. Late round pick at beat.
We've seen knucklehead receivers do well before.
Exactly. He WILL have a buy point in rookie drafts. Tampa Mike Williams worked his way to top 10 rookie status by August of his rookie year and, by all accounts, Rogers is more talented (though maybe even more a headcase?). I was mainly curious if anyone has seen him at Tenn Tech and if he is staying in shape, honing his game, etc.
 
Some standouts from today's early games:

- Cincinnati TE Travis Kelce

- Texas A&M RB duo Ben Malena and Christine Michael

- Arkansas RB Dennis Johnson

- Buffalo RB Branden Oliver

 
He does have a proven track record, and would have been a 1st round pick even after the first major injury. You can pick and chose numbers to make almost anyone in the SEC look bad. Especially when you include games in which he was much less than 100%. And 93 on 23 is a great game against that Bama D.
They were 10th against the run that year. It was a decent to good run D with a lot of talent but let's not get all bama crazy.I don't disagree with him being a 1st round pick after the first major injury. My point is basically now he needs to come back for another year to rehab and prove he's worth anything more than a late round flier. Not just the injury history but the severity of the most recent injury. His proven track record is crushing bad run D's and struggling versus elite ones.
Let's not get Bama crazy? They were 10th in the nation playing in the SEC against some very good running teams. Very clearly elite. And his track record speaks for itself and doesn't need to be improved. If he comes back to show he is healthy, fine. But he is a first round pick based on his production, which shouldn't be logically questioned. What runningbacks don't struggle against elite defenses?ETA: "decent to good?" :confused:
He was also a true Freshman in the SEC, all things considered his Freshman season was pretty damn incredible. 1197 yards on the ground another 412 receiving and 19 TDs, very few freshman RBs put up numbers like that.
 
Marlon Brown from Georgia could be an interesting WR sleeper. Physically imposing and was an all-everything recruit out of high school, but hasn't really put it all together on the field. Made a big play in today's game though and looks like a guy who will get drafted. Georgia is always stocked with NFL talent and this year is no different.

 
CJ Anderson had a very solid game on Friday night, 22/160, including a 64-yard run on third-and-24 where it took a horse-collar tackle to keep him out of the end zone. He's got good speed for a big guy (I bet he'll check in at the combine at 215+), and he's a very good receiver. He's not super-flashy and he doesn't play as strong as you'd like him to (he doesn't have Lynch's Beast Mode), but he could be a Hillis-type player if he lands in the right place. A backup 3-down back kind of guy.

 
One name I am not seeing on the lists and that has got lost in the shuffle is Da'Rick Rogers. There seems to be little dispute that the talent was there but we all know the red flags. Has anyone seen him play this year (the stats are underwhelming)? Any opinions on where he fits in?
He's a nucklehead with a weed problem. Late round pick at beat.
We've seen knucklehead receivers do well before.
Given what I've read and heard about him he may take knucklehead to a whole new level.
 
So.... Oregon's Kenjon Barner ran for 321 yards and 5 TDs yesterday against USC. Is there something to see with this kid, or was this a total fluke game?

 
So.... Oregon's Kenjon Barner ran for 321 yards and 5 TDs yesterday against USC. Is there something to see with this kid, or was this a total fluke game?
He is listed at 5'11/195. If that is accurate, then his prospects may be better. He doesn't look or play that big to me but there is no doubt that he will be playing on Sunday's in some capacity. I am/was not a fan of Lamichael James but I think James was a better prospect.
 
Ray Graham looked REALLY nice yesterday. The vision and cutting ability were definitely NFL worthy. I know he has both some fans and detractors in this thread. Would like to get a few opinions to weigh against my own. Thanks

 
Some standouts from today's early games:

- Cincinnati TE Travis Kelce

- Texas A&M RB duo Ben Malena and Christine Michael

- Arkansas RB Dennis Johnson

- Buffalo RB Branden Oliver
Got my eye on this guy. He looks like he is built from the same mold as Trent Richardson, and he's turned his production way up the past two weeks.
 
So.... Oregon's Kenjon Barner ran for 321 yards and 5 TDs yesterday against USC. Is there something to see with this kid, or was this a total fluke game?
Not a fluke game but his skills are not a nice NFL fit and it's the Oregon system that makes him IMO.
 
I know it was against Troy, but it was still nice to see Justin Hunter putting up a big game, with nine catches for 181 yards and three touchdowns.

 
Updated watch list:

Geno Smith, West Virginia

Matt Barkley, USC

Michael Dyer, ex-Auburn

Eddie Lacy, Alabama

Gio Bernard, North Carolina

Jawan Jamison, Rutgers

Spencer Ware, LSU

Dennis Johnson, Arkansas

Christine Michael, Texas A&M

Silas Redd, USC

Stepfan Taylor, Stanford

Curtis McNeal, USC

James White, Wisconsin

Kenjon Barner, Oregon

Mike Gillislee, Florida

Andre Ellington, Clemson

LeVeon Bell, Michigan State

Branden Oliver, Buffalo

Ray Graham, Pitt

Zac Stacy, Vanderbilt

Jonathan Franklin, UCLA

Ladarius Perkins, Missippi State

Markus Wheaton, Oregon State

Keenan Allen, Cal

Marcus Davis, Virginia Tech

Justin Hunter, Tennessee

Robert Woods, USC

Marquess Wilson, Washington State

Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

Stedman Bailey, West Virginia

Da'Rick Rogers, Tennessee Tech

Ace Sanders, South Carolina

Mike Davis, Texas

Kenny Stills, Oklahoma

Chad Bumphis, Missippi State

Cody Hoffman, BYU

DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

Jalen Saunders, Oklahoma

Marlon Brown, Georgia

Tavarres King, Georgia

Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame

Zach Ertz, Stanford

Travis Kelce, Cincinatti

Nick Kasa, Colorado

Actually shaping up to be a decent class. Just lacks those difference makers at the top.

Wheaton was killing ASU last night. Looks like a better version of Robert Woods. Best skill player Oregon State has had since Steven Jackson.

 
So.... Oregon's Kenjon Barner ran for 321 yards and 5 TDs yesterday against USC. Is there something to see with this kid, or was this a total fluke game?
He is listed at 5'11/195. If that is accurate, then his prospects may be better. He doesn't look or play that big to me but there is no doubt that he will be playing on Sunday's in some capacity. I am/was not a fan of Lamichael James but I think James was a better prospect.
Barner looks closer to 5'8"-5'9".I think Barner is overrated (in real NFL Draft terms) simply because you can find the same player in Kerwynn Williams in later rounds.
 
Looking like Barner may be slept on by some, I think this is legit. He's faster and stronger than he's been before, this version will translate to the NFL.

And Ray Graham is healthy! Won't be the #1 back drafted but he may be my favorite in this (weak) lot.

 
NFL draft risers, sliders: Week 10

Tony Pauline

Several wide receivers have impressed NFL scouts and top the list of this week's NFL Draft risers. A pair of prospects in the secondary are also moving up draft boards around the league. Conversely, players who received high grades from scouts entering the 2012 campaign have not lived up to expectations.

Markus Wheaton/WR/Oregon State: Wheaton is in the midst of a terrific season and has impressed scouts every week. He's on pace for career numbers and his six touchdown receptions this year tops his cumulative total from the prior three seasons. Wheaton has the build to be a No. 2 receiver at the next level and his reported 40 speed of 4.4-seconds enhances his value. The senior entered the season with last day draft grades, but has since moved into the middle rounds.

Justin Brown/WR/Oklahoma: Brown left Penn State for Oklahoma prior to the start of the season and its turned out to be the right move for the seniorr. The big-bodied target is developing into a reliable pass catcher for quarterback Landry Jones besides being a special teams ace. His seven receptions for 107 yards against Iowa State was his best performance of the season and helped the Sooners seal victory over Iowa State. Brown has the physical skills to line up as a second wide out at the next level and could be a second day draft pick if he continues to improve his game.

Jordan Matthews*/WR/Vanderbilt: Matthews is a junior on almost every watch list around the league and a receiver with a well-rounded game. He's shown consistent improvement on the field and has turned into the go-to receiver opponents cannot stop. Averaging more than six receptions per game and just under 14 yards per catch, Matthews is another player who offers the skillset to line-up as a second wide out in the NFL.

Desmond Trufant/CB/Washington: Desmond is the latest cornerback from the Trufant family who will grace an NFL roster. Though not as talented as older brother Marcus, the younger sibling is displaying an improved game this season. Opponents have purposely avoided Trufant all year and the senior could sneak into the third round if he continues to play at a high level through the Senior Bowl.

Matt Elam*/S/Florida: The junior safety continues to impress scouts and he stood out during the Gators' close victory over Missouri. Elam does a terrific job patrolling centerfield, aggressively defending the run while capitalizing on mistakes made by opposing quarterbacks. He's a multi-dimensional safety with the ability to make plays sideline-to-sideline against the run and pass.

Barrett Jones/C/Alabama: Jones has made the seamless transition from left tackle to center this season and now ranks as one of the best pivot blockers moving towards the draft. He's not very athletic, but he's smart, tough and fundamentally sound. Jones rarely makes mental mistakes and always finds a way to disrupt defenders protecting the passer or blocking for the run.

Terrance Williams/WR/Baylor: The Bears' passing attack was expected to take a step back after the departure of quarterback Robert Griffin III and receiver Kendall Wright. Williams has filled the void at the receiver spot this season and has climbed draft boards. He's posted at least 100 yards receiving in seven of eight games thus far and is averaging 20.1 yards on 60 receptions. Williams has surprised scouts with his deep speed and ability to stretch the field vertically. He entered the 2012 season graded as a seventh-round pick, but Williams now projects as a top 60 choice.



Gerald Hodges/LB/PennState: Hodges is the second highly rated linebacker from Penn State, as scouts grade him slightly below teammate Michael Mauti. There have been times this season when Hodges seem more athletic and forceful compared to his fellow PSU defender. During the Nittany Lions' victory over Purdue, Hodges topped the stats sheet with eight tackles and three tackles for loss. He's a three-down defender who shows skill pursuing the run and ability in pass coverage. Good workouts prior to the draft could seal Hodges as a top 100 choice.

Daimion Stafford/S/Nebraska: Stafford is developing a reputation as one of the better run-defending safeties available in the 2013 draft. He ranks second on the Nebraska defense in total tackles, most recently posting 12 tackles in the victory over Michigan State. His coverage skills are NFL-caliber, as the senior has defended five passes this season. He offers the size and skill to line up at free safety and Stafford should end up as a top 75 choice next April.

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Josh Boyd/DT/Miss State: Boyd struggled during the Bulldogs' blowout loss at the hands of Texas A&M. He was credited with five assisted tackles but more to the point, Boyd was handled all day in one-on-one blocking. Rated as a potential third-round pick entering the season, Boyd has played more like a last day choice this year.

Derek Hayden/CB/Houston: Hayden is another senior who was rated as a top-90 selection entering the season yet is slipping down draft boards. He was victimized several times during the Cougars 20-point loss to East Carolina, a contest in which the opponent totaled more than 300 yards passing.

Marcus Davis/WR/Virginia Tech: Davis has been a big disappointment this season and has not developed his game as scouts hoped. Rated as one of the top senior receivers entering the season, Davis has displayed a lot of inconsistency and is not transitioning his awesome physical skills into football production.

Notes

So with one month left in the college season, how is the 2013 NFL Draft shaping up in the eyes of NFL scouts? Several scouts told me the top of the draft is uninspired to this point. There is no clear-cut No. 1 choice. No player, whether it be a senior or underclassmen, comes close to matching the grades received by Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin last April. Scouts compare next April's draft to the 2008 event, one which saw Jake Long tabbed with the first selection. In layman's terms, it looks like a draft where teams select safe players and draft for need in the early going.

Scouts are excited yet at the same time concerned about Oregon's Dion Jordan. The senior has taken his game to another level this season, expanding his skills on the field and effectively handling a variety of roles. Jordan has been a forceful and disciplined defender and plays within himself. He's also been suffering from a shoulder injury which has forced an early exit from the past two games. If healthy, Jordan could end up a top 60 choice, but his shoulder will be thoroughly examined at the Senior Bowl.
 
Weekly Rewind: Stars Rise to the Occasion During Showdown Saturday

By Rob Rang | The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

Which future NFL draft picks stood out during Week 10 of the 2012 college football season? NFLDraftScout.com Senior Analyst Rob Rang checks in with the performances that will have NFL scouts adjusting their rankings.Weekly Rewind is a running blog post updated throughout the day, with the stories in chronological order.

Pair of ACC Stars' Stock Heading in Opposite Directions

Having led North Carolina State to an upset victory over Florida State October 6 and coming off a career high 467 yards and five touchdowns against state rival North Carolina, senior quarterback Mike Glennon had quickly been rising up NFL draft boards.

Just as other prominent senior passers Geno Smith and Matt Barkley failed to build off their early season momentum, however, Glennon struggled to maintain his hot play Saturday, despite playing in front of a homecoming crowd against the lowly Virginia Cavaliers, who entered this contest at just 2-6 and 0-4 in conference play.

To be fair, the Cavs had an extra week to prepare for this contest and Glennon (pictured right) wasn't aided by some untimely drops from his receiving corps.

Glennon wasn't able to help himself in this contest, however, as the 6-5, 232 pounder struggled to escape pressure and too often failed to pull the trigger when he did have receivers open downfield. Glennon was sacked in the endzone for a safety in the second quarter and shortly thereafter fumbled after another sack. It was Glennon's third turnover of the first half and helped Virginia take a 16-0 lead into halftime.

Scouts love Glennon's size and arm strength. His experience in head coach Tom O'Brien's pro-style offense is also a significant plus. For as statistically impressive as Glennon was against the Tar Heels last week, however, two of his five touchdowns were the result of coverage lapses (32, 83 yarders) and, frankly, his day could have been even more impressive had his passes been more accurate. Glennon completed "just" 29 of his 52 passes (55.7%) against the Tar Heels, often forcing his receivers to adjust and ruining some opportunities to gain additional yardage after the catch. He also threw two interceptions in this contest.

The same inconsistent ball placement was on display against Virginia. At halftime, Glennon had completed 11 of 22 passes for just 95 yards and he didn't lead the Wolfpack into the redzone until midway through the fourth quarter. By that time, Virginia owned a commanding 26-0 lead.

While NC State's star struggled, Virginia's top prospect once again impressed.

Perhaps due to the fact that the Cavaliers have been mired in a disappointing season, senior left tackle Oday Aboushi hasn't generated much hype outside of the ACC. That's a shame, because like the quarterbacks class, the 2013 crop of senior offensive tackles leaves a lot to be desired, especially following the season-ending injury to North Carolina's Brennan Williams.

NFL teams looking for an upgrade at offensive tackle via the 2013 NFL draft are hoping that Texas A&M's dominant duo Luke Joeckel and Jake Matthews, as well as Michigan's Taylor Lewan (among others) elect to make themselves eligible early. Each has demonstrated the athleticism to handle NFL-caliber speed off the edge.

Aboushi doesn't possess elite quickness or balance in pass protection. He'll most likely be asked to move to right tackle or even inside at guard in the NFL. He does, however, have great length, as well as very good upper body strength and the nastiness that offensive line coaches love -- traits which will aid in that potential transition.

There are, perhaps, other offensive tackles in this draft class with greater upside but Aboushi's relative pro-readiness will be highly valued by top NFL decision-makers and could earn the Cavalier standout a similar grade as the one Kelechi Osemele earned a year ago out of Iowa State. The Baltimore Ravens wound up selecting the 6-6, 333 pound Osemele in the second round (60th overall) in April. He's since started all seven games for the Ravens as a rookie -- all of them on the right side after starring at left tackle for the Cyclones.

Versatility Could Push WVU's Austin into Top 32

While his quarterback continues to struggle with consistency, West Virginia's Do-Everything dynamo Tavon Austin may be emerging as the country's top senior receiver.

It wasn't long ago that the idea of a 5-09, 172 pound slot receiver like Austin ranking as a potential first round pick would have generated laughter from NFL scouts. In today's highly specialized NFL, however, where versatile playmakers like the Minnesota Vikings' Percy Harvin (5-11, 192) and Carolina Panthers' Steve Smith (5-09, 184) have emerged as one of the league's most difficult matchups, the possibilities for Austin seem limitless.

Limitless might be the word to use when describing the way in which West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen has used Austin (pictured left) over his career. Austin led the country in all-purpose yardage a season ago, averaging 198 yards per game. He's been even more productive thus far in 2012, averaging 201.86 yards heading into Saturday's showdown.

With the Mountaineers having lost their last two games, they needed Austin to be even better Saturday. He was, registering 203 all-purpose yards and, more importantly, scoring two critical touchdowns that put West Virginia in position to beat TCU in their showdown as members of the Big 12.

Austin made his first significant contribution as a receiver. Later, it was on special teams.

Down 14-7 and with Smith having thrown an interception in his third consecutive game, Austin took a short push-pass from his quarterback while in motion, went around the left end, circled back all the way across the field, resulting in a dazzling 43-yard touchdown to give the Mountaineers momentum.

The touchdown catch was Austin's 10th of the year. The eight he'd scored each of the past two seasons had previously been his career high.

Austin wasn't finished, however. While he'd scored 32 touchdowns heading into this contest (25 as a receiver, four on kickoffs and three as a rusher), Austin had never scored on a punt return.

Perhaps not surprisingly then, it was on a punt return Saturday that Austin appeared to give the Mountaineers the score they needed to put this game away, taking a TCU punt 76 yards to give his team a 31-24 lead with just over three minutes remaining.

On both plays, Austin showcased the stop-and-start maneuverability and explosive acceleration that makes him a threat to score every time he touches the ball.

Like many short receivers, Austin has very good lateral agility to elude. His ability to instantly accelerate after changing directions, however, is perhaps what makes him so difficult for defenders to track down. Though he was clearly Smith's favorite target in this contest -- especially with fellow playmaking wideout Stedman Bailey continuing to nurse a sore ankle -- Austin was rarely tackled by the first TCU defender he faced. Considering that the Horned Frogs have generally been one of the nation's more schematically sound and reliable open field tackling teams in the country, that's saying something.

Austin currently ranks second on NFLDraftScout.com's senior receiver rankings behind Baylor's Terrance Williams. At 6-2, 205 pounds, Williams has the more traditional blend of size and speed to warrant a high round selection. It isn't difficult to understand why an NFL team already featuring playmakers on the outside would value Austin as a late first round pick, just as Dane Brugler projects in his latest mock draft.

Oregon's Offense Frightening, But Defense Boasts Top 2013 Prospects

Explosive doesn't begin to describe Chip Kelly's offense but it might surprise fans to learn that the Oregon Ducks' top NFL prospects -- at least those eligible for the 2013 NFL draft -- line up on the defensive side of the ball.

Hybrid pass rusher Dion Jordan has earned plenty of respect. The 6-5, 240 pound defensive end/outside linebacker/nickel cornerback currently ranks No. 21 on my Big Board and I'm certainly not alone in my appreciation for his unique combination of size and athleticism. With the Ducks' top defender sidelined early in the highly anticipated matchup against Southern Cal, however, Oregon had to turn to others on that side of the ball to slow down Matt Barkley, Marqise Lee, Robert Woods and the rest of the dynamic Trojans' offense.

Though he hasn't registered nearly the national hype as his teammate Jordan, those paying attention to the Oregon defense certainly have recognized the terrific all-around play from senior middle linebacker Kiko Alonso.

Alonso entered Saturday's showdown having already posted 42 tackles, including eight tackles for loss and a sack on the season. He's also proved to be a turnover magnet, registering two interceptions and has both forced and recovered a fumble.

Despite playing the same position, Alonso isn't a mauler in the middle like Notre Dame's Manti Te'o, the unquestioned top inside linebacker in the country. Whereas the Irish star has the perfect build for stuffing the run at 6-2, 255 pounds, Alonso has a slimmer, more athletic build at 6-3, 242 pounds that some scouts believe could make him valuable in the NFL because he'll likely be able to play all three positions in a normal 4-3 alignment.

Alonso showcased his versatility early in this contest, demonstrating great awareness, flexibility and closing speed to pick off a Barkley pass in the second quarter. He was impressive in coverage throughout the game, lining up against backs, tight ends and even USC's dynamic receivers. This same combination of mental and physical traits was also evident in how he quickly diagnosed the run, slicing through gaps, at times, to corral USC's tailbacks at the line of scrimmage, as well as the vision and hustle to pursue downfield. Though he wasn't often asked to rush Barkley, when he did so, Alonso's speed and strong hands helped him get off blocks quickly and prove a hindrance to the senior quarterback.

Before NFL teams are going to be willing to invest a top 100 pick in Alonso, they'll certainly want to do their homework as he's had multiple run-ins with police in the past.

There is no denying, however, that he has this kind of talent.

Alabama Scores Big With Williams

Serving as a perfect cap to a terrific day of intense rivalry games, Alabama-LSU proved to be every bit worth its billing.

There were, of course, standouts from both teams. Alabama true freshman running back T.J. Yeldon was appropriately named the game's MVP for his spectacular performance, including the weaving game-winning touchdown catch and run with just 51 seconds remaining.

LSU quarterback Zach Mettenberger enjoyed the best game of his career with the Tigers, demonstrating -- perhaps for the first time this season -- a legitimate NFL combination of poise, accuracy and arm strength.

Perhaps the NFL prospect who quietly enjoyed the most impressive performance, however, was fearsome Alabama nose guard Jesse Williams Prior to the start of the season I asked several NFL scouts who had traveled through Tuscaloosa who would be this year's "breakout" performer for the defending champion Alabama Crimson Tide.

Perhaps as an indication of the talent Nick Saban has collected, I received several answers. Every scout questioned, however, mentioned Williams, which in part prompted me to list him the Australia native as one of the five most intriguing prospects for the Tide over more accomplished talents like cornerback Dee Milliner, linebacker C.J. Mosley and even quarterback A.J. McCarron.

Williams, 6-3 and 320 pounds, played outside as a five technique defensive end a year ago, registering 24 tackles, including four tackles for loss. Due to his great strength (reportedly he has a 600-pound bench press) and surprising agility, Williams has been an even better fit this year inside at nose guard.

With just 14 tackles on the season (entering the LSU game), it will be difficult for some to understand why scouts are so enamored with Williams. True nose guards don't often register gaudy statistics and the versatility and specialization Alabama boasts also contributes to Williams' lack of eye-popping production.

As good as Williams is, his primary strength is his ability to clog running lanes. He is not, however, a consistent pass rusher, which is one of the reasons why he's been rotated often as the Tide has faced multiple spread offenses over the first half of the regular season.

Against LSU's power running game, however, Williams saw a lot of action and enjoyed his best game to date. CBS' announcing crew of Verne Lundquist and Gary Danielson pointed him out on multiple occasions and for good reason. The No. 28 rated overall prospect in the 2013 draft according to NFLDraftScout.com, Williams' quick swim move made him a terror in the middle, often forcing LSU's talented running backs to adjust before they'd even secured the hand-off. The Tigers certainly acknowledged his talents, as well, often dedicating multiple blockers to slowing him down.

Williams' size and strength played a key role in what turned out to be one of the game's most critical plays. Nursing a 17-14 lead, LSU head coach Les Miles elected to pass up the chance at extending the lead with a field goal to go for it on 4th and 1 at the Alabama 24-yard line. The Tigers attempted to run directly at Williams. The massive defender was initially moved back by a impressively executed double-team block, but slid up and, with the help of multiple other Tide defenders, stopped LSU's Spencer Ware for no gain.

It is precisely this type of run-stuffing ability that could make Williams the latest Alabama defensive lineman to earn a first round selection in the NFL draft.
 
Clutch QB play on display in ’Bama win

Posted Nov. 04, 2012 @ 7:36 p.m. ET

By Nolan Nawrocki

In an emotionally charged performance against one of college football’s most star-studded defenses, Alabama QB AJ McCarron looked inept for most of four quarters. Unable to move the ball through the air, he relied on the Tide’s ground game.

Down a field goal, the junior game manager came through in the clutch, completing 4-of-5 passes for 72 yards in the final minutes, setting up sensational true freshman RB T.J. Yeldon with a Barrett Jones-recommended game-winning screen toss that kept Nick Saban’s squad perfect.

Much more impressive than McCarron in a 21-17 losing effort was LSU QB Zach Mettenberger, a fireballing Georgia transfer. Despite two aggressive special-teams miscalculations — a failed fake field-goal attempt in the second quarter and an onside kick in the third quarter — the game shifted in the favor of LSU.

That’s when Mettenberger, dubbed the “Mettsiah” by LSU fans, came out firing. He used his rifle arm to exploit the deep outside third of the field against Alabama’s soft two-shell and helped LSU convert 10-of-20 third downs for the game.

Continually targeting the side of the field opposite the nation’s top cornerback, Alabama junior CB Dee Milliner, Mettenberger led the Tigers on consecutive TD drives to overcome a 14-3 deficit. That gave LSU control of the game early in the fourth quarter and put Alabama’s hopes of winning back-to back national championships on the ropes.

A trio of junior Tigers defenders — mammoth, athletic DT Bennie Logan, hard-charging, high-effort DE Sam Montgomery and a very aggressive-filling MLB Kevin Minter ­— successfully limited the Crimson Tide to a pair of three-and-outs to open the fourth quarter.

Mettenberger kept the chains moving again by coming through on two more third-down situations and finding Odell Beckham for a big 22-yard gain. The 11-play drive ate up nearly six minutes but another special-teams miscue — this time a missed 45-yard field goal — gave McCarron a final chance to salvage the Tide’s national title hopes.

He hit unheralded junior WR Kevin Norwood on three straight passes and perfectly preyed on an attacking John Chavis “D” with a screen toss to Yeldon, who made up for his critical third-quarter fumble by scooting 28 yards into the endzone.

• In a year in which there does not appear to be a true elite back in college football, Oregon senior Kenjon Barner made a case against USC for why he deserves more consideration, rushing for a career-high 38-321-5 against a Monte Kiffin defense that is typically stingy. However, most of Barner’s production came as a result of Chip Kelly’s spread-option offense, with more than 85 percent of his yardage coming before he was touched — a credit to a well-designed, zone blocking scheme.

• Noticeably taking too many bad angles, getting erased on the second level and gingerly stepping up in run support was USC senior FS T.J. McDonald, who gained a reputation for being a hard hitter from his flash, highlight-film hits last season. His performance against the run and pass have left much to be desired as a senior and though he will be drafted much more highly, he has even warranted some free-agent grades from veteran NFL evaluators.

• Georgia junior ILB Alec Ogletree showed exceptional coverage range vs. Ole Miss when he high-pointed an interception 25 yards downfield. Though he lines up inside in the Bulldogs’ 3-4 front, the run-and-hit ’backer is most ideally suited to play on the weak side for a “40” front where he could best utilize his elite speed. Following a four-game suspension to start the season, he is expected to depart early for the NFL draft.

• West Virginia senior Tavon Austin returned a punt 76 yards for a score against TCU to give the Mountaineers a seven-point lead late in the fourth quarter, showing terrific vision in traffic by sidestepping seven would-be tacklers approaching with good angles. Though the Mountaineers dropped their third consecutive contest, 39-38 in double overtime, Austin has been the squad’s most feared game-changing threat and has the elite burst, balance and big-play speed to become a game-breaker in the NFL.

• Texas A&M senior RB Christine Michael, who has been a disappointment since returning from a season-ending ACL injury last fall, has shown flashes of brilliance this fall, as he did on a 22-yard TD run in a 38-13 win over Mississippi State, showing very quick feet for a big back and a decisive running style. However, concerns still remain about his character as he fell to third on the depth chart behind junior Ben Malena and freshman Trey Williams after landing in the doghouse of head coach Kevin Sumlin.

• TCU junior WR Josh Boyce never will be confused with a burner. However, when the Horned Frogs needed a big play in the final minutes against West Virginia, Boyce showed enough competitive speed to outrace the competition for 62 yards after the catch to complete a 94-yard TD reception.
 
Updated watch list:Geno Smith, West VirginiaMatt Barkley, USCMichael Dyer, ex-AuburnEddie Lacy, AlabamaGio Bernard, North CarolinaJawan Jamison, RutgersSpencer Ware, LSUDennis Johnson, ArkansasChristine Michael, Texas A&MSilas Redd, USCStepfan Taylor, StanfordCurtis McNeal, USCJames White, WisconsinKenjon Barner, OregonMike Gillislee, FloridaAndre Ellington, ClemsonLeVeon Bell, Michigan StateBranden Oliver, BuffaloRay Graham, PittZac Stacy, VanderbiltJonathan Franklin, UCLALadarius Perkins, Missippi StateMarkus Wheaton, Oregon StateKeenan Allen, CalMarcus Davis, Virginia TechJustin Hunter, TennesseeRobert Woods, USCMarquess Wilson, Washington StateQuinton Patton, Louisiana TechStedman Bailey, West VirginiaDa'Rick Rogers, Tennessee TechAce Sanders, South CarolinaMike Davis, TexasKenny Stills, OklahomaChad Bumphis, Missippi StateCody Hoffman, BYUDeAndre Hopkins, ClemsonJalen Saunders, OklahomaMarlon Brown, GeorgiaTavarres King, GeorgiaTyler Eifert, Notre DameZach Ertz, StanfordTravis Kelce, CincinattiNick Kasa, ColoradoActually shaping up to be a decent class. Just lacks those difference makers at the top. Wheaton was killing ASU last night. Looks like a better version of Robert Woods. Best skill player Oregon State has had since Steven Jackson.
Forgetting cordarrelle Patterson
 
You know who deserves more love? Gillislee. Great in the passing game both receiving and blocking and is tough between the tackles, not an explosive athlete but given where the NFL is going I see him as a day 2 pick and hopefully a guy that ends up on my teams.

 
Terrance Williams/WR/Baylor: The Bears' passing attack was expected to take a step back after the departure of quarterback Robert Griffin III and receiver Kendall Wright. Williams has filled the void at the receiver spot this season and has climbed draft boards. He's posted at least 100 yards receiving in seven of eight games thus far and is averaging 20.1 yards on 60 receptions. Williams has surprised scouts with his deep speed and ability to stretch the field vertically. He entered the 2012 season graded as a seventh-round pick, but Williams now projects as a top 60 choice.
I thought he was the top senior WR going into the season?
 
'MAC_32 said:
You know who deserves more love? Gillislee. Great in the passing game both receiving and blocking and is tough between the tackles, not an explosive athlete but given where the NFL is going I see him as a day 2 pick and hopefully a guy that ends up on my teams.
He has great vision as well. The Gators have a couple 4-star running backs behind him yet the ground game takes a big hit when they're missing Gillislee.
 
I was just looking over a 2013 mock draft sight and noticed something rather shocking. No RBs are mocked in rounds 1 or 2 for this draft. The 1st RB off the board is Ellington, Clem at pick 72. Then Taylor, Stan at pick 88 and Gillislee, Florida at pick 92. Pretty rare if this does in deed happen. I don't disagree with the mock or how low they are ranking this group of RBs. If you are in need of a RB in your rookie draft though, you could be in trouble.

 
I was just looking over a 2013 mock draft sight and noticed something rather shocking. No RBs are mocked in rounds 1 or 2 for this draft. The 1st RB off the board is Ellington, Clem at pick 72. Then Taylor, Stan at pick 88 and Gillislee, Florida at pick 92. Pretty rare if this does in deed happen. I don't disagree with the mock or how low they are ranking this group of RBs. If you are in need of a RB in your rookie draft though, you could be in trouble.
I don't think there are any 1st round prospects this year with Lattimore down, I think a couple will separate and get early into day 2 though. If you told me I had to name 2 it'd be Ellington and Bernard...maybe Randle, but I don't see a big difference between them and several others. There are lots of good RB's in this class, but no one special. Most will probably be 2nd or 3rd stringers throughout their career, the trick will be to identify the couple that will become meaningful contributors - probably not top 10 but top 20 guys.
 
'cstu said:
Terrance Williams/WR/Baylor: The Bears' passing attack was expected to take a step back after the departure of quarterback Robert Griffin III and receiver Kendall Wright. Williams has filled the void at the receiver spot this season and has climbed draft boards. He's posted at least 100 yards receiving in seven of eight games thus far and is averaging 20.1 yards on 60 receptions. Williams has surprised scouts with his deep speed and ability to stretch the field vertically. He entered the 2012 season graded as a seventh-round pick, but Williams now projects as a top 60 choice.
I thought he was the top senior WR going into the season?
Yeah if not the top definitely near the top. Pretty sure NFLDraftScout had him as a 1st-2nd round prospect dating back to last year.
 
I was just looking over a 2013 mock draft sight and noticed something rather shocking. No RBs are mocked in rounds 1 or 2 for this draft. The 1st RB off the board is Ellington, Clem at pick 72. Then Taylor, Stan at pick 88 and Gillislee, Florida at pick 92. Pretty rare if this does in deed happen. I don't disagree with the mock or how low they are ranking this group of RBs. If you are in need of a RB in your rookie draft though, you could be in trouble.
I don't think there are any 1st round prospects this year with Lattimore down, I think a couple will separate and get early into day 2 though. If you told me I had to name 2 it'd be Ellington and Bernard...maybe Randle, but I don't see a big difference between them and several others. There are lots of good RB's in this class, but no one special. Most will probably be 2nd or 3rd stringers throughout their career, the trick will be to identify the couple that will become meaningful contributors - probably not top 10 but top 20 guys.
Lacy is being very overlooked. He could slip into the 1st round with a good showing at the combine. I also think the Rams will consider Le'Veon Bell in the 2nd as the thunder to go with Richardson/Pead.
 
Another guy I'm watching is Christine Michael who is coming off a torn ACL. He won't be an early pick but he's got the talent to be a starter.

 
Another guy I'm watching is Christine Michael who is coming off a torn ACL. He won't be an early pick but he's got the talent to be a starter.
I am finding my new favorite poster :thumbup: - I think we actually like many of the same guys. I am an Aggie and have thought Michael was a great prospect all along (for the record, I wasn't a Tannehill or Fuller fan and thought Gray was over-hyped as well). He reminds me a bid of Murray with the college injuries/talent ratio but I think Michael is more naturally talented. For where he will go in the NFL and then rookie drafts, he should represent good value.
 
Well, this isn't good:

According to one report from Scout.com, junior WR Marquess Wilson has cleaned out his locker and quit the Washington State football team.

The school publicly stated that Wilson is merely suspended, but this reports cites two sources close to the team. The junior apparently left Sunday's practice during a "hell-ish" conditioning event. Wilson appears to have his sights set on the NFL, but his lack of consistency hurts.

Source: Rotoworld.

 
The Wilson news sounds similar to the Mike Williams news a couple years back. Maybe some of the stories about what an ### Leach was at Texas Tech are true - still not sure if that is a good reason to walk out though.

Wilson has the talent to succeed and this will likely drop his stock enough to make him a nice value pick for some team.

 
The Wilson news sounds similar to the Mike Williams news a couple years back. Maybe some of the stories about what an ### Leach was at Texas Tech are true - still not sure if that is a good reason to walk out though.Wilson has the talent to succeed and this will likely drop his stock enough to make him a nice value pick for some team.
I'm not sure what to make of this. Wilson has had no other issues in his past from what I can tell. Isn't this like the 5th or 6th player to either leave or be dismissed by Leach? No matter what this will down grade him in the draft. How much is the question?
 

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