Dynasty trades you offered that you thought were fair, but you got la (2 Viewers)

[msudaisy26]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

 

[Spike]

I like the concept. Will have to keep this in mind.

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

Yeah. That's not good. Kelce slotted as # 3 TE in start ups.

 

[VarsityBlues123]

that offer should have been laughed at.

 

[Madden Curse]

that offer should have been laughed at.

Agreed, we needed a stronger test case to start the thread.

 

[msudaisy26]

that offer should have been laughed at.

Agreed, we needed a stronger test case to start the thread.

Really? I tried to trade Kelce in another league of mine and I asked for 1.08 and 2.08 and got laughed at. I put Kelce's value around a mid first this year.

 

[maf005]

1.03 is being drafted at least full round ahead of Kelce in startups. I would accept without much thought if offered the 1.03 for Kelce.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Offered 2015 1.14, 2016 1st, 2017 1st

To get 2015 1.08, 2017 1st

Basically paying a 1st to move up this year. Didn't think it was laughable.

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Offered 2015 1.14, 2016 1st, 2017 1st

To get 2015 1.08, 2017 1st

Basically paying a 1st to move up this year. Didn't think it was laughable.

Why include the 2017 pick swap, unless you have reason to believe the other owners pick could be a high one? If so, he probably sees the possibility as well and wants to keep his pick. Or do you just have a dominant team, hence picking 1.14? Another reason he wouldn't want a potentially late 2017 1st.

I don't think there's anything wrong with attempting a 2017 pick swap, but don't pretend there's no value there--which is what you're doing when you say "Basically paying a 1st to move up this year".

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Offered 2015 1.14, 2016 1st, 2017 1st

To get 2015 1.08, 2017 1st

Basically paying a 1st to move up this year. Didn't think it was laughable.

Why include the 2017 pick swap, unless you have reason to believe the other owners pick could be a high one? If so, he probably sees the possibility as well and wants to keep his pick. Or do you just have a dominant team, hence picking 1.14? Another reason he wouldn't want a potentially late 2017 1st.I don't think there's anything wrong with attempting a 2017 pick swap, but don't pretend there's no value there--which is what you're doing when you say "Basically paying a 1st to move up this year".

It's a gamble and both teams are probably middle teams (1.14 was acquired). Most owners tend to think their team is better than it is, even if only a win or two off. It's a gauge to see what a team thinks of it's own future prospects. Point taken though.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Yeah. That's not good. Kelce slotted as # 3 TE in start ups.

Its a very steep drop after the top 2. I actually feel like thats a pretty fair offer. Surprised so many are calling it laughable. The top 3 picks in this draft are premium picks. Small drop to 4 (White), but a big drop to 6 IMO.

 

[ghostguy123]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

There is nothing remotely "laughable" about this deal.

 

[msudaisy26]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

There is nothing remotely "laughable" about this deal.

Thanks, I didn't think it was horrible. I thought it was slightly in my favor, but when I make an first offer I always have it in my favor a little.

 

[DropKick]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Not a bad offer at all, especially given the TE scoring. I think the value of the 1.3 is that much higher than than the 1.6. If I'm targeting Gurley/Gordon/Cooper (or whoever your #1 WR is), I could pay that price.

I could see people who wouldn't do that trade too. But NO WAY is Kelce worth the 1.3 plus.

 

[burnall]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Not a bad offer at all, especially given the TE scoring. I think the value of the 1.3 is that much higher than than the 1.6. If I'm targeting Gurley/Gordon/Cooper (or whoever your #1 WR is), I could pay that price.

I could see people who wouldn't do that trade too. But NO WAY is Kelce worth the 1.3 plus.

i could see kelce going for 1.3 stright. but decent TE are hard to come by (and kelce looks good) so i'd have to look at my team first

 

[msudaisy26]

Offered 2015 1.14, 2016 1st, 2017 1st

To get 2015 1.08, 2017 1st

Basically paying a 1st to move up this year. Didn't think it was laughable.

Not bad at all. I would have countered and removed the 2017 firsts from each side.

 

[maf005]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Not a bad offer at all, especially given the TE scoring. I think the value of the 1.3 is that much higher than than the 1.6. If I'm targeting Gurley/Gordon/Cooper (or whoever your #1 WR is), I could pay that price.

I could see people who wouldn't do that trade too. But NO WAY is Kelce worth the 1.3 plus.

i could see kelce going for 1.3 stright. but decent TE are hard to come by (and kelce looks good) so i'd have to look at my team first

I don't want to get too deep in a Kelce discussion but a 3rd round TE whose best season to date is 67-860-5, is in an Alex Smith-led offense, and has had micro fracture surgery? The EV of Gurley/Gordon/Cooper/White/Parker's VBD is significantly higher than Kelce's.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

 

[Pipes]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Not a bad offer at all, especially given the TE scoring. I think the value of the 1.3 is that much higher than than the 1.6. If I'm targeting Gurley/Gordon/Cooper (or whoever your #1 WR is), I could pay that price.

I could see people who wouldn't do that trade too. But NO WAY is Kelce worth the 1.3 plus.

i could see kelce going for 1.3 stright. but decent TE are hard to come by (and kelce looks good) so i'd have to look at my team first

I don't want to get too deep in a Kelce discussion but a 3rd round TE whose best season to date is 67-860-5, is in an Alex Smith-led offense, and has had micro fracture surgery? The EV of Gurley/Gordon/Cooper/White/Parker's VBD is significantly higher than Kelce's.

This

 

[msudaisy26]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

Light in my eyes.

 

[bkdphi]

Give Mike Wallace

Receive 2.07 and Tyler Eifert.

Guy counters with Wallace for Dan Carpenter (yes the kicker) straight up. Never dealing with this owner ever again.

 

[msudaisy26]

Give Mike Wallace

Receive 2.07 and Tyler Eifert.

Guy counters with Wallace for Dan Carpenter (yes the kicker) straight up. Never dealing with this owner ever again.

Not horrible. Don't limit yourself by saying you won't trade with someone ever again

 

[Eminence]

Give Mike Wallace

Receive 2.07 and Tyler Eifert.

Guy counters with Wallace for Dan Carpenter (yes the kicker) straight up. Never dealing with this owner ever again.

You should have jumped on that, lol.

 

[Sabertooth]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Oof

I offered Julio for the 1.1 and got rebuffed.

 

[Uncle Grandpa]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

Oof

I offered Julio for the 1.1 and got rebuffed.

Why would you do this?

 

[jtd13]

I offered Matt Ryan and 1.12 for 1.05 (1qb league but only qb he has is Kaep). Response: "Are you serious with this offer?"

I didn't really expect it to be accepted, but I'm not sure it was snarky comment worthy.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

I offered Matt Ryan and 1.12 for 1.05 (1qb league but only qb he has is Kaep). Response: "Are you serious with this offer?"

I didn't really expect it to be accepted, but I'm not sure it was snarky comment worthy.

that's a great starting point. He could counter with you adding a 2nd and that would be reasonable. That's why this is a great thread... shows the breadth of possible responses that happen out there.

 

[Soulfly3]

For someone who has done literally nothing in his career on the worst passing attack in... ever... Kelce sure has a ton of hype.

ridiculous.

 

[SproutDaddy]

I like Kelce but wouldn't give the 1.03 for him.

 

[bmsarvis]

We have a worst trade you have received, how about the opposite. You offered a trade that was fair or at least would get the ball rolling, only to be laughed at or yelled at.

Here is one of mine.

I give 1.3

I receive 1.6 and Kelce not a premium TE league.

I get rejected and told I would have to give 1.3 plus to get just Kelce.

There is nothing remotely "laughable" about this deal.

I think your better off with one out gurley gordon or cooper personally

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I offered Matt Ryan and 1.12 for 1.05 (1qb league but only qb he has is Kaep). Response: "Are you serious with this offer?"

I didn't really expect it to be accepted, but I'm not sure it was snarky comment worthy.

Maybe not laugh worthy but not a good offer either unless it was a 16+ team league. Matt Ryan in a 12 team 1qb league is very meh. His career best finish is QB7 and that was when he had two stud WRs and a stud TE (he's down to just the one stud WR now).

 

[jtd13]

I offered Matt Ryan and 1.12 for 1.05 (1qb league but only qb he has is Kaep). Response: "Are you serious with this offer?"

I didn't really expect it to be accepted, but I'm not sure it was snarky comment worthy.

Maybe not laugh worthy but not a good offer either unless it was a 16+ team league. Matt Ryan in a 12 team 1qb league is very meh. His career best finish is QB7 and that was when he had two stud WRs and a stud TE (he's down to just the one stud WR now).

He finished qb7 in that league last year, with just the one stud, and a couple games he had Harry Douglas as his wr1. He has never not finished as a qb1. Plus he gets the OC that made Matt Schaub a qb1. I think you're underselling him.regardless, I wasn't expecting a snap accept, I was just a bit surprised it was taken as an offense.

Eta: woops, didn't realize my search was only going back 5 years, not a qb1 his first 2 seasons.

 

[JonB86]

Offered Jimmy Graham for 1.03 and 2.03, got told to stop lowballing :S

Only did it because I have Jimmy/Olsen/Kelce, thought it was rather fair if not in their favour!

 

[bluesclues]

I offered Jimmy Graham and Antonio Brown FOR Peterson and Dez Bryant.

Told I was on glue

 

[ghostguy123]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

Light in my eyes.

yes, very light

Were you expecting a counter or something??

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

Light in my eyes.

yes, very light

Were you expecting a counter or something??

Yes this owner admittedly prefers a 60-40 start to offers. Figured that 3 1sts are a decent starting point.

 

[ghostguy123]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

Light in my eyes.

yes, very light

Were you expecting a counter or something??

Yes this owner admittedly prefers a 60-40 start to offers. Figured that 3 1sts are a decent starting point.

Maybe he just doesnt want to deal OBJ. "No counter" doesnt really mean he thinks it was a bad offer, cause it wasnt a "bad" offer. It was light, but not "bad".

Yes it is 3 1sts, but not all 1sts are created equal. Pick 14 isn't gonna slide the meter on an OBJ deal very much

Did he even say anything about the deal? Or does a lack of counter make you think he laughed at it?

 

[BroadwayG]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

 

[Soulfly3]

Offered a 1.3 and 1.14 and 2016 1st for OBJ. Rejected without a counter.

Light in my eyes.

yes, very light

Were you expecting a counter or something??

Yes this owner admittedly prefers a 60-40 start to offers. Figured that 3 1sts are a decent starting point.

Maybe he just doesnt want to deal OBJ. "No counter" doesnt really mean he thinks it was a bad offer, cause it wasnt a "bad" offer. It was light, but not "bad".

Yup.

This is how I am w Evans and OBJ. I'm just not trading them,

It'd take a trade that'd get vetoed for me to accept, so I dont even bother. I let it be known ahead of time tho, so offers have stopped.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

Coming off mediocre year, turning 29, and being told you need to learn to block, on a run 1st team that has not had anyone with any real success receiving and not with lack of throwing big money to find someone.

Either your question is fishing or your in straight up denial.

 

[finito]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

It has decreased.

 

[SproutDaddy]

He was injured last year. He's still the #1 receiving option on his team with a QB that everyone is crowning the next best FF QB. I understand Seattle has been a run first team in the past, but that Oline isn't the same, and Lynch is older and keeps contemplating retirement.

No fishing or denial. Just using logic.

 

[SproutDaddy]

And furthermore, what does 29 have to do with a receiving TE that's entering what, his 5th season. Lynch is the one you should be worried about.

Talk about fishing.

 

[BroadwayG]

He was injured last year. He's still the #1 receiving option on his team with a QB that everyone is crowning the next best FF QB. I understand Seattle has been a run first team in the past, but that Oline isn't the same, and Lynch is older and keeps contemplating retirement.

No fishing or denial. Just using logic.

Faulty logic is still logic I guess. Going from #1 on a team that averaged 660 pass attempts the past three years to #1 on a team that averaged 426 pass attempts is an obvious significant downgrade.

 

[SproutDaddy]

So you don't think he'll see the same amount of targets?

There is no faulty logic in play.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

Who is the consensus #2 TE again?

 

[BroadwayG]

So you don't think he'll see the same amount of targets?

There is no faulty logic in play.

If Seattle starts throwing 50% more than they have in the past, then yes, he'll see the same amount of targets. My money is on no however.

 

[BroadwayG]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

Who is the consensus #2 TE again?

May as well be Julius Thomas by your logic.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Lots of people trying to sell Jimmy Graham at his value from a year ago.

How has his value changed?

Who is the consensus #2 TE again?

May as well be Julius Thomas by your logic.

Go on........