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Dynasty Value Discussion Thread (9 Viewers)

All my dynasty leagues draft soon after the draft, and I love it, because I really consume everything draft after the playoffs. If you are kind of casual with following the draft, it really hurts you after the 2nd round of your rookie draft.

Yeah, you've got the beginning of free agency and then the draft to occupy time and headspace with. The past few years, I've found that both of those events keep things rolling nicely. It's only after the rookie draft and before training camp where you begin to feel that real lull.

Can't believe the fantasy season is already over. Seems like it just began a week ago or so.
 
Where are we at with Tee Higgins? What would need to be added in a SF league to the 1.08 to land him? 2.01 get it done? 24’ 1st?
I have him in both my leagues, and probably wouldn’t sell him for that.

but I think that’s a reasonable starting offer. Someone might pay it, or counter for more if they’re looking to rebuild.

personally I agree with @Boston - imma hold for that price, though his somewhat down last few weeks and a very inconsistent season are a little concerning. Also the possibility that CIN can’t afford him.

That said, there’s always a chance he goes somewhere as the WR1 & his fortunes rise.
 
What are Noah Fant
Fant is tough, because Seattle just doesn’t use their TEs as a focal point or 1st read option. He is more weekly dart throw than he is reliable weapon. TE-P helps, but I wouldn’t pay more than a 3rd for him. That’s just me though - I could be off.
Courtland Sutton

Oof - right now not a lot. The good news: he had a huge target share.
The bad news: 1/2 of those targets were uncatchable.

Until the Broncos have a HC, I wouldn’t sell Sutton. He’s probably a good buy-low if the owner is only looking at stats.

Maybe an early-to-mid-2nd? I have 2.01 - I could see trying to buy low if competing now. I might look into buying him for my rebuild - he is only 27. :shrug:
, and Skyy Moore
Moore could be a nice buy low - could probably get him for a late 2nd, early 3rd? He has a chance to get a foothold in that starting lineup come training camp.

Worth seeing what the Chiefs do in the draft, but he could end up in the slot if all breaks well.
 
What are Noah Fant, Courtland Sutton, and Skyy Moore worth in a TE premium league?

Will keep it generic...all three are players I will let someone else deal with...I would not use any of my assets on them...Fant just isn't in a great situation for fantasy production in Seattle...Sutton will be 28 in October, has been in the league 5 years and has one season with over 850 yards and has 14 TDs combined in those 5 years, and now has a QB that just doesn't look good...still early for Moore but he just doesn't do much for me and my guess is KC brings in another quality WR and if Toney can stay on the field that is more competition.
 
Where are we at with Tee Higgins? What would need to be added in a SF league to the 1.08 to land him? 2.01 get it done? 24’ 1st?
Following up on this, I extended an offer of 1.07, 2.06 and 3.01 for Higgins. He countered back and asked for the 1.06 instead of the 1.07(I own 1.06-1.08). I think this is still a smash, correct?
Absolutely. Take it and run.
 
Where are we at with Tee Higgins? What would need to be added in a SF league to the 1.08 to land him? 2.01 get it done? 24’ 1st?
Following up on this, I extended an offer of 1.07, 2.06 and 3.01 for Higgins. He countered back and asked for the 1.06 instead of the 1.07(I own 1.06-1.08). I think this is still a smash, correct?
Yes, I would accept. Just because I like the negotiation, I'd ask to keep the 3.01.
 
Price check on Michael Pittman? I think I may have a legit shot at landing him for the 1.10(maybe even the 2.01) and that feels like a good deal to me. Should get a rookie QB to grow with.
 
Price check on Michael Pittman? I think I may have a legit shot at landing him for the 1.10(maybe even the 2.01) and that feels like a good deal to me. Should get a rookie QB to grow with.

I wouldn't be in any rush to obtain Pittman...good player but the Colts have a ton of question marks which affect him...I'd rather use that draft asset on another deal.
Even 2.01?
How many teams in the league, is it SF and who are your current WRs?
 
Price check on Michael Pittman? I think I may have a legit shot at landing him for the 1.10(maybe even the 2.01) and that feels like a good deal to me. Should get a rookie QB to grow with.
I'd pay that for him. If selling I'd probably need the 1.06-1.07 range I think...
DLF currently has him right smack between the 6&7. Sounds about right, he flashed big time at the start of the season but then the Colts fell apart. I’d definitely buy for a late 1st even with the uncertainty of coach and QB right now.
 
Price check on Michael Pittman? I think I may have a legit shot at landing him for the 1.10(maybe even the 2.01) and that feels like a good deal to me. Should get a rookie QB to grow with.

I wouldn't be in any rush to obtain Pittman...good player but the Colts have a ton of question marks which affect him...I'd rather use that draft asset on another deal.
Even 2.01?
How many teams in the league, is it SF and who are your current WRs?
10 team. SF. In a complete rebuild. Have 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.10 and 2.01.

Current top WR’s are Higgins, Aiyuk, and Bateman.
 
Price check on Michael Pittman? I think I may have a legit shot at landing him for the 1.10(maybe even the 2.01) and that feels like a good deal to me. Should get a rookie QB to grow with.

I wouldn't be in any rush to obtain Pittman...good player but the Colts have a ton of question marks which affect him...I'd rather use that draft asset on another deal.
Even 2.01?
How many teams in the league, is it SF and who are your current WRs?
10 team. SF. In a complete rebuild. Have 1.01, 1.03, 1.04, 1.07, 1.08, 1.10 and 2.01.

Current top WR’s are Higgins, Aiyuk, and Bateman.

In a 10 team SF I wouldn't do it...also, with your current WRs I really don't like him...you need a much better #2 and the current Indy situation doesn't give me much hope he will take a big leap soon and since he will be 26 in October why wait around for that, especially if you are in rebuild mode...if you were adding him to a stacked group as quality depth, I would like him better...not a bad move but I would rather use the asset elsewhere whether it is on the draft pick or part of a package to get Higgins a running mate.
 
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What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
 
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
 
You think multiple 1st in a 1QB format?
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
 
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
I offered a lot of combos of the 1.04 or 1.05 plus Trey Lance last year plus a future ‘23 late 1st to a rebuilding owner for Mahomes with Hockenson. Couldn’t ever get anything worked out.
 
You think multiple 1st in a 1QB format?
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
Sorry, maybe not, I don't play 1 QB.
But it really only matters what he thinks anyway.
 
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What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
I offered a lot of combos of the 1.04 or 1.05 plus Trey Lance last year plus a future ‘23 late 1st to a rebuilding owner for Mahomes with Hockenson. Couldn’t ever get anything worked out.
Also in another league before Lamar got injured, did manage to make this trade for Mahomes:

LJax, Dalvin Cook, Gabriel Davis, JaMaal Williams, Curtis Samuel, Jelanai Woods
For
Mahomes, McLaurin, Fournette, G. Everett,
 
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
I offered a lot of combos of the 1.04 or 1.05 plus Trey Lance last year plus a future ‘23 late 1st to a rebuilding owner for Mahomes with Hockenson. Couldn’t ever get anything worked out.
I don’t think you are too far off but it’ll depend on the make up of your trade partners team too. I own Mahomes in a 1QB league and I’d certainly be tempted by your offer but don’t forget that Mahomes is a set it and forget it type player. There are times where he will almost single-handedly win you the week when he puts up 35+ points (Which he did 5 times this year in my league) - and he had 8 games over 30 points. Having said that, in my situation, my backups are Carr and Tannehill. So the drop from Mahomes to Carr is huge. I’d need quite a bit to be willing to eat that point loss From a single starting position.
 
You think multiple 1st in a 1QB format?
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
I think it would take Herbert and a decent pick, or multiple firsts. No one is looking to trade Mahomes even in 1QB, so it'll likely take something convincing.
 
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
If I was the Mahomes owner, unless I had a really really good backup, I'd insist that Herbert be part of the deal. If you refuse to include Herbert you'd need to pay a lot, multiple high first round picks as a starting point. Even in start one QB leagues an elite QB like Mahomes is super valuable. That gives you such a big advantage at that position every week for years and years. I would not even consider trading him for what would be considered fair value in the marketplace.
 
What would people give up to get Mahomes in a 1QB format? I have Herbert but have tons of 23 draft capital and just want the damn man and be done with it. Wouldn’t mind having Herbert as my backup so he would not be in this trade- just pick(s).
Without Herbert, it would probably take the Mahomes owner to want to start a rebuild and a whole lot of 1sts.
I offered a lot of combos of the 1.04 or 1.05 plus Trey Lance last year plus a future ‘23 late 1st to a rebuilding owner for Mahomes with Hockenson. Couldn’t ever get anything worked out.
I don’t think you are too far off but it’ll depend on the make up of your trade partners team too. I own Mahomes in a 1QB league and I’d certainly be tempted by your offer but don’t forget that Mahomes is a set it and forget it type player. There are times where he will almost single-handedly win you the week when he puts up 35+ points (Which he did 5 times this year in my league) - and he had 8 games over 30 points. Having said that, in my situation, my backups are Carr and Tannehill. So the drop from Mahomes to Carr is huge. I’d need quite a bit to be willing to eat that point loss From a single starting position.
Would agree, other owner said it was close but he just couldn’t pull the trigger since it’s Mahomes. Approach needs to be a slightly lesser QB (which I don’t have in that league) with another positional upgrade or overwhelm with picks/value IMO.

I plan to reach out to him again this year, I’ve got the 4, 6, 8, & 10 in that league and need a QB badly. But I also need another WR or 2 as my team imploded with injuries this past year so I traded some studs for lessor younger players plus 1sts. Some of those trades worked out great, some not so much.
 
Price check on Lamb.

12 team PPR single flex

I’ve been offered Aiyuk, B Cooks, 1.09 and 2.07. I am thinking of countering dropping Cooks for Kirk. Thoughts? I am fairly new at Dynasty, this is my 2nd off-season. I need RB depth and a QB. But this guy doesn’t really have anything to offer in that department. I also already have Deebo, so Aiyuk isn’t high on my list.

Thank you
 
Price check on Lamb.

12 team PPR single flex

I’ve been offered Aiyuk, B Cooks, 1.09 and 2.07. I am thinking of countering dropping Cooks for Kirk. Thoughts? I am fairly new at Dynasty, this is my 2nd off-season. I need RB depth and a QB. But this guy doesn’t really have anything to offer in that department. I also already have Deebo, so Aiyuk isn’t high on my list.

Thank you
I would not do any of those, especially considering your needs (though the 1.09 nets you a good rookie QB). You build around Lamb, and if you trade him you get sure-thing studs back. Aiyuk is a decent enough player but replaceable-level IMO, and at this point in his career Cooks is almost a throw-in. Lamb is widely considered a top 5ish dynasty WR, you wouldn't be getting close to that value back (again just my opinion.)
 
Price check on Lamb.

12 team PPR single flex

I’ve been offered Aiyuk, B Cooks, 1.09 and 2.07. I am thinking of countering dropping Cooks for Kirk. Thoughts? I am fairly new at Dynasty, this is my 2nd off-season. I need RB depth and a QB. But this guy doesn’t really have anything to offer in that department. I also already have Deebo, so Aiyuk isn’t high on my list.

Thank you
I have Lamb worth 2x 1sts.

Aiyuk + Kirk + 1.09 + 2.07 seems like fair value.

That said, I would rather have Lamb. He’s starting to show potential as a top 4 FF WR, and while I love Aiyuk, and while that package seems very fair value-wise, you’re trading a dollar for 3x $.50 pieces (the 2.07 is ok, but not really worth using in this calculus)

I’d want the Lamb side. Stud WR are hard to come by.

I’m thinking of offering the lamb owner ETN + 1.08 to see if he bites…
 
I agree it's better to keep Lamb, even if Kirk is in there -- especially since you already have Deebo, depth at WR is even less valuable

And speaking of price checks on stud WRs, I'm thinking of making a run at Jefferson

Surprisingly(?) KTC says my 1.02 + Javonte would get it done

Does that sound like a reasonable opening offer? What else, if anything, should I be okay with adding in terms of approximate value?

(My remaining top RBs would be Najee, Pierce, Pacheco, and Jamaal Williams, so hopefully I could weather the loss of Javonte and my anticipated pick of Gibbs. Davante is my WR1, but my WR2 is probably either Sutton or Meyers, so Jefferson would be a proper gamechanger there, as he should be.)

League is 12 team PPR, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex
 
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And speaking of price checks on stud WRs, I'm thinking of making a run at Jefferson

Surprisingly(?) KTC says my 1.02 + Javante would get it done
I have Jefferson in 1 dynasty league; for me, this would not get it done, but TBH I don't know if Jefferson is really tradeable. It would have to be a ridiculous offer for me to part with such a cornerstone piece. Having said that, it's certainly not an insulting offer and if the other team is deep at WR but desperate for RBs I could see it.
 
And speaking of price checks on stud WRs, I'm thinking of making a run at Jefferson

Surprisingly(?) KTC says my 1.02 + Javante would get it done
I have Jefferson in 1 dynasty league; for me, this would not get it done, but TBH I don't know if Jefferson is really tradeable. It would have to be a ridiculous offer for me to part with such a cornerstone piece. Having said that, it's certainly not an insulting offer and if the other team is deep at WR but desperate for RBs I could see it.
Yeah, his top RBs are Sanders, Herbert, Hunt, Foreman, and JRobinson, so I can see a potential opening with ARSB, Burks, and Bateman being his remaining top WRs, plus he has the 1.03

So even if Jefferson does prove to be untouchable there may be other trade possibilities
 
Price check on DJ Moore?

Good buy-low?

2.01 + Pacheco too much? Not enough? Fair?
I wouldn't personally offer that much for DJ Moore. Our league is 2RB, 2WR, though, which is somewhat uncommon and devalues WR a little. I like Pacheco.
Yeah. We’re start 3 WR, with 2 flex.

I have a nagging feeling the Chiefs are not going to bring back McKinnon & May draft a rookie in the 1st or 2nd that could cause Pacheco to lose some luster.

CAR getting a new coach & a new QB - I kinda like the idea of acquiring DJM off a down year. He’s still only 25, going on 26.
 
Lamb discussion. Aiyuk has now changed to Mixon. Would that move the needle for you guys? It did for me considering my need for RB.

Mixon, Kirk, 1.09 and 2.07 for Lamb

I feel like it’s more than fair, but I am giving up the better asset. Trading is not easy …
 
Lamb discussion. Aiyuk has now changed to Mixon. Would that move the needle for you guys? It did for me considering my need for RB.

Mixon, Kirk, 1.09 and 2.07 for Lamb

I feel like it’s more than fair, but I am giving up the better asset. Trading is not easy …
Again, I like the value.

I’d rather have Lamb. He’s only 23. 24 in April.

Mixon is 26, will be 27 at the start of next season. He was oft injured until he wasn’t the last 2 years, and I’m a little worried about his workload.

That, and this year is expected to be a bonanza of RBs, making WR a bit harder to come by.

So I’m still on the lamb side here.
 
Lamb discussion. Aiyuk has now changed to Mixon. Would that move the needle for you guys? It did for me considering my need for RB.

Mixon, Kirk, 1.09 and 2.07 for Lamb

I feel like it’s more than fair, but I am giving up the better asset. Trading is not easy …
I'd keep Lamb in large part because I'd be trying very hard to move Mixon if I still had him(already moved him for the most part). The age/wear&tear is real and playing 20 and 18-19 games in b2b seasons did not help. I view him as massively declining asset.

I'm not even sure whothe best player you are getting back would be but I'd need a better best player back to consider moving Lamb.
 
Lamb discussion. Aiyuk has now changed to Mixon. Would that move the needle for you guys? It did for me considering my need for RB.

Mixon, Kirk, 1.09 and 2.07 for Lamb

I feel like it’s more than fair, but I am giving up the better asset. Trading is not easy …

100% Lamb...you gotta do better than that for one of the better fantasy assets out there...you are not getting any difference-makers in the return and the upside of what you are getting is limited as well...Mixon is not getting any younger and while he is good he kind of is what he is now...Kirk is solid but he is not moving the needle when it comes to Lamb and neither is the 1.9...if you made this deal you would regret it...you get 3 pieces but nothing that pushes your team forward.
 
Price check on DJ Moore?

Good buy-low?

2.01 + Pacheco too much? Not enough? Fair?

Not a guy I would target...better real player than fantasy player...he will be 26 in April so while he's not old he isn't young anymore...unless they get a dramatic upgrade at QB I don't see how he improves upon what he currently is after 5 seasons...I would rather use those assets on another player.
 
Lamb discussion. Aiyuk has now changed to Mixon. Would that move the needle for you guys? It did for me considering my need for RB.

Mixon, Kirk, 1.09 and 2.07 for Lamb

I feel like it’s more than fair, but I am giving up the better asset. Trading is not easy …
Fair offer but it's a trap unless you really hit on that 1.09 IMO.

Great way to describe it!
 

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