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Dynasty WR #4 (1 Viewer)

Who would you rank as the #4 dynasty WR?

  • Reggie Wayne 11/17/78

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  • Randy Moss 2/13/77

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  • Steve Smith 5/12/79

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  • Brandon Marshall 3/23/84

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  • Anquan Boldin 10/3/80

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  • Greg Jennings 9/21/83

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  • Roddy White 11/2/81

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  • Marques Colston 6/5/83

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  • Dwayne Bowe 9/21/84

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Moss, by a mile for me but I expect others value long term, meaning 3+ years from now, value more than I do.

 
Now it gets intersting. Can you add Braylon Edwards soon? I am not sure at what point I would vote for him, but he would at least be in the discussion soon.

I really like Reggie Wayne, but am surprised to see that he is only 1 1/2 years younger than Moss and older than Steve Smith. I will go with Moss as 3 more years at anywhere close to his 2007 production would be a steal at WR #4.

 
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Go Pack said:
Now it gets intersting. Can you add Braylon Edwards soon? I am not sure at what point I would vote for him, but he would at least be in the discussion soon.
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Personal opinion i guess but would put welker on there next. Only 5 WRs have outscored him in a ppr the last two years.
 
Personally, I think its a toss-up between Wayne and Marshall.

I'm curious to see how Marshall is used in McDaniels offense. 4th could be too low for him, but he also could be closer to 10th if he isn't targeted as frequently as he was in Shanny's offense. I do still think he has a lot of room to grow as a WR and we haven't seen his best yet, but he also comes with some baggage so...?

Wayne, I think is extremely undervalued right now, he's only 30, which isn't that old for a WR. Wayne has a great QB and is in an offense that isn't going to change much if at all. What he did this season seems like his floor to me. He was averaging 1,400-10 the previous 2 years, plus Harrison will likely be gone which will only help Wayne's numbers.

I think I'd take Wayne over Marshall, but its very close.

Also, are we going to be doing these at all positions or just WR? Its kinda cool to see what the consensus opinions are as opposed to just assuming.

 
toss up between marshall and moss for me, went with marshall on age alone.

anyone know how long moss is signed on with NE? brady and moss connection should be really good for the next few years.

 
travdogg said:
Personally, I think its a toss-up between Wayne and Marshall.

I'm curious to see how Marshall is used in McDaniels offense. 4th could be too low for him, but he also could be closer to 10th if he isn't targeted as frequently as he was in Shanny's offense. I do still think he has a lot of room to grow as a WR and we haven't seen his best yet, but he also comes with some baggage so...?

Wayne, I think is extremely undervalued right now, he's only 30, which isn't that old for a WR. Wayne has a great QB and is in an offense that isn't going to change much if at all. What he did this season seems like his floor to me. He was averaging 1,400-10 the previous 2 years, plus Harrison will likely be gone which will only help Wayne's numbers.

I think I'd take Wayne over Marshall, but its very close.

Also, are we going to be doing these at all positions or just WR? Its kinda cool to see what the consensus opinions are as opposed to just assuming.
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or (to play devils advocate) did harrison actually help wayne all those other years? harrison seemed pretty much gone this past year...
 
mozzy84 said:
toss up between marshall and moss for me, went with marshall on age alone.anyone know how long moss is signed on with NE? brady and moss connection should be really good for the next few years.
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Randy's only signed through this season. Add in the Brady knee question and Randy's age and he's not even a consideration for me until well later.
 
mozzy84 said:
travdogg said:
Personally, I think its a toss-up between Wayne and Marshall.

I'm curious to see how Marshall is used in McDaniels offense. 4th could be too low for him, but he also could be closer to 10th if he isn't targeted as frequently as he was in Shanny's offense. I do still think he has a lot of room to grow as a WR and we haven't seen his best yet, but he also comes with some baggage so...?

Wayne, I think is extremely undervalued right now, he's only 30, which isn't that old for a WR. Wayne has a great QB and is in an offense that isn't going to change much if at all. What he did this season seems like his floor to me. He was averaging 1,400-10 the previous 2 years, plus Harrison will likely be gone which will only help Wayne's numbers.

I think I'd take Wayne over Marshall, but its very close.

Also, are we going to be doing these at all positions or just WR? Its kinda cool to see what the consensus opinions are as opposed to just assuming.
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or (to play devils advocate) did harrison actually help wayne all those other years? harrison seemed pretty much gone this past year...
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If this were 2006, then I could see that point, but Harrison was gone for like 75% of 2007 and Wayne had the best year of his career and led the NFL in yardage. I don't think its that big of an assumption to think that the 2007 season is the best possible future indicator for Wayne as it most closely resembles his current situation.I do agree that Harrison helped Wayne in the past, but Wayne has been "The Man" for 2 years now. Harrison was far from gone this year, although he was far below his normal standards, however he was still targeted frequently to the point that it seemed as if the Colts were almost too stubborn to admit Harrison had lost a step, which was to their detriment.

 
Definitely becomes more difficult to pick after the top 3. I'd probably go with Moss here, but could see a case being made for Marshall and Jennings, and a notch below them a handful of other guys.

 
fruity pebbles said:
mozzy84 said:
toss up between marshall and moss for me, went with marshall on age alone.anyone know how long moss is signed on with NE? brady and moss connection should be really good for the next few years.
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Randy's only signed through this season. Add in the Brady knee question and Randy's age and he's not even a consideration for me until well later.
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ok now you are making me rethink moss at 5.
 
Toxic Gatorade said:
Just as I expected (and as others did too), the early votes are all over the board......
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Not anymore. I think this one can be closed pretty soon with Marshall at nearly 45% and the second closest being just over 10%.
 
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RoyDubb said:
Marshall's off-field/character issues makes him not a consideration for me here.JMO.
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Same here. Not questioning his abilities, but his character issues make him too much risk to take as top 5 WR in a dynasty format.
 
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I went with Steve Smith. He finished as the WR7 in most PPR leagues while missing 2 games in 2008 due to suspension and in most games the Panthers' ground game was dominant.

Marshall obviously has age as an advantage, but there is something about his attitude that suggests to me he won't consistently be in the top 5 WRs.

 
travdogg said:
I'm curious who the "other" vote was for, was it Edwards?
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My money is on Welker... someone's been pimping him for the past few threads, not sure who.Other possibilities would be Edwards as you mentioned (unlikely) or Royal (EBF is very high on him).
 
northern exposure said:
I went with Steve Smith. He finished as the WR7 in most PPR leagues while missing 2 games in 2008 due to suspension and in most games the Panthers' ground game was dominant.Marshall obviously has age as an advantage, but there is something about his attitude that suggests to me he won't consistently be in the top 5 WRs.
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It appears we Eagles fans think alike... what else is new... You hate Reid too? :(
 
My :thumbup:

Reggie Wayne 11/17/78 - great QB, great talent, being 30 is a small negative, has a few years left

Randy Moss 2/13/77 - same as Wayne with some QB ??? more talent, should score more over the next few years

Steve Smith 5/12/79 - QB? Insane talent, love the guy really, but he's behind Wayne and Moss IMO

Brandon Marshall 3/23/84 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) only drawback is character, but it's a big one

Anquan Boldin 10/3/80 - great at what he does, team? QB? Just doesn't produce enough to take him here with the ???

Greg Jennings 9/21/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) not quite the production of a top 5 WR, but he's a solid 1 for the foreseeable future

Roddy White 11/2/81 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) no drawbacks really

Marques Colston 6/5/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) I probably underrate his talent, but he seems a creation of the offense moreso than his own studliness

Dwayne Bowe 9/21/84 - lacks a QB and it will be interesting to see how KC shakes out

Braylon Edwards - add next, though his dismal 2008 makes him fall to 10 or later.

I voted Moss only because I put more emphasis on the next couple years than 3+

 
FUBAR said:
My :thumbup:Reggie Wayne 11/17/78 - great QB, great talent, being 30 is a small negative, has a few years leftRandy Moss 2/13/77 - same as Wayne with some QB ??? more talent, should score more over the next few yearsSteve Smith 5/12/79 - QB? Insane talent, love the guy really, but he's behind Wayne and Moss IMOBrandon Marshall 3/23/84 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) only drawback is character, but it's a big oneAnquan Boldin 10/3/80 - great at what he does, team? QB? Just doesn't produce enough to take him here with the ??? Greg Jennings 9/21/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) not quite the production of a top 5 WR, but he's a solid 1 for the foreseeable futureRoddy White 11/2/81 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) no drawbacks reallyMarques Colston 6/5/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) I probably underrate his talent, but he seems a creation of the offense moreso than his own studlinessDwayne Bowe 9/21/84 - lacks a QB and it will be interesting to see how KC shakes outBraylon Edwards - add next, though his dismal 2008 makes him fall to 10 or later.I voted Moss only because I put more emphasis on the next couple years than 3+
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what's the logic behind putting SSmith behind Wayne and Moss?
 
TaxMan said:
FUBAR said:
My :thumbup:Reggie Wayne 11/17/78 - great QB, great talent, being 30 is a small negative, has a few years leftRandy Moss 2/13/77 - same as Wayne with some QB ??? more talent, should score more over the next few yearsSteve Smith 5/12/79 - QB? Insane talent, love the guy really, but he's behind Wayne and Moss IMOBrandon Marshall 3/23/84 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) only drawback is character, but it's a big oneAnquan Boldin 10/3/80 - great at what he does, team? QB? Just doesn't produce enough to take him here with the ??? Greg Jennings 9/21/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) not quite the production of a top 5 WR, but he's a solid 1 for the foreseeable futureRoddy White 11/2/81 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) no drawbacks reallyMarques Colston 6/5/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) I probably underrate his talent, but he seems a creation of the offense moreso than his own studlinessDwayne Bowe 9/21/84 - lacks a QB and it will be interesting to see how KC shakes outBraylon Edwards - add next, though his dismal 2008 makes him fall to 10 or later.I voted Moss only because I put more emphasis on the next couple years than 3+
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what's the logic behind putting SSmith behind Wayne and Moss?
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Probably the major questions at QB.
 
MAC_32 said:
Moss, by a mile for me but I expect others value long term, meaning 3+ years from now, value more than I do.
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young players are valued to much in dynasty leagues. wayne or moss for me here
 
I know a number of people don't look out past 2 years or so but in a dynasty that you expect to be a part of longer than that i'm not sure why. RBs i can see cause of their normally short shelf life but WRs are typically productive until their early-mid 30's. Main issue i have in taking a guy like Randy Moss or even Reggie Wayne is decreasing trade value. It's only going to go down from here. Whereas a guy in his mid to late 20's has his value remain steady at worst. Nearly impossible to trade a 32-33 year old WR for anything close to his value no matter how he performs.

 
fruity pebbles said:
I know a number of people don't look out past 2 years or so but in a dynasty that you expect to be a part of longer than that i'm not sure why. RBs i can see cause of their normally short shelf life but WRs are typically productive until their early-mid 30's. Main issue i have in taking a guy like Randy Moss or even Reggie Wayne is decreasing trade value. It's only going to go down from here. Whereas a guy in his mid to late 20's has his value remain steady at worst. Nearly impossible to trade a 32-33 year old WR for anything close to his value no matter how he performs.
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see Roy Williams and Braylon Edwards as examples on young players, mid-20s, who's stock has gone down from being top-5 to top-15. But i do get your point, that their trade value moving forward assuming they bounce back nicely would still be there over a producing 32-33 year old WRs.
 
TaxMan said:
fruity pebbles said:
I know a number of people don't look out past 2 years or so but in a dynasty that you expect to be a part of longer than that i'm not sure why. RBs i can see cause of their normally short shelf life but WRs are typically productive until their early-mid 30's. Main issue i have in taking a guy like Randy Moss or even Reggie Wayne is decreasing trade value. It's only going to go down from here. Whereas a guy in his mid to late 20's has his value remain steady at worst. Nearly impossible to trade a 32-33 year old WR for anything close to his value no matter how he performs.
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see Roy Williams and Braylon Edwards as examples on young players, mid-20s, who's stock has gone down from being top-5 to top-15. But i do get your point, that their trade value moving forward assuming they bounce back nicely would still be there over a producing 32-33 year old WRs.
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Braylon is a good point although he only had one good year. Roy has pretty much been a disappointment all along. But they both still carry pretty good value even though they had offseasons. Braylon in particular still brings a pretty hefty sum. If a 32-33 year old WR has that kind of down year, their value goes down the toilet ala T. Holt.
 
travdogg said:
TaxMan said:
FUBAR said:
My :)Reggie Wayne 11/17/78 - great QB, great talent, being 30 is a small negative, has a few years leftRandy Moss 2/13/77 - same as Wayne with some QB ??? more talent, should score more over the next few yearsSteve Smith 5/12/79 - QB? Insane talent, love the guy really, but he's behind Wayne and Moss IMOBrandon Marshall 3/23/84 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) only drawback is character, but it's a big oneAnquan Boldin 10/3/80 - great at what he does, team? QB? Just doesn't produce enough to take him here with the ??? Greg Jennings 9/21/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) not quite the production of a top 5 WR, but he's a solid 1 for the foreseeable futureRoddy White 11/2/81 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) no drawbacks reallyMarques Colston 6/5/83 - QB (check) talent (check) young (check) I probably underrate his talent, but he seems a creation of the offense moreso than his own studlinessDwayne Bowe 9/21/84 - lacks a QB and it will be interesting to see how KC shakes outBraylon Edwards - add next, though his dismal 2008 makes him fall to 10 or later.I voted Moss only because I put more emphasis on the next couple years than 3+
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what's the logic behind putting SSmith behind Wayne and Moss?
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Probably the major questions at QB.
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That and I just think Moss and Wayne will produce more the next couple years.
 
I thought, prior to this past season, Moss signed a 3-year contract. Wouldn't that give him 2 more years with the Pats?

(I could be mistaken.)

 
Lots of ifs but Roy Williams should be considered before too many more spots as Romo's eventual #1 and he's still young.

 
Went with Steve Smith here but I could argue for a bunch of guys on that list.

Looks like we found a tier here, fellas.

 
rzrback77 said:
RoyDubb said:
Marshall's off-field/character issues makes him not a consideration for me here.

JMO.
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:lmao: went with Steve Smith

, but also like Boldin. It will be really interesting voting over the next six to eitght picks.
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You prefer Steve Smith because he causes problems on-field?
 
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