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What are you most worried about for your team Sunday?
What are you most worried about for your team Sunday?
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Eagles Fans - what are you most worried about? (1 Viewer)
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I think this is the weakest of the 3 KC Super Bowl teams and probably the deepest/best Eagles team of all t ime...... but Mahomes being Mahomes and Kelce being Kelce. You can do everything right against these guys and they'll still beat you.
For the Eagles...I'm worried that if KC jumps out; 14-0....even maybe 10-0, SIrianni will abandon the run and Hurts will press. PHI hasn't played behind much this year; particularly against a team that can light up the scoreboard like KC.
For the Eagles...I'm worried that if KC jumps out; 14-0....even maybe 10-0, SIrianni will abandon the run and Hurts will press. PHI hasn't played behind much this year; particularly against a team that can light up the scoreboard like KC.
jasvic
Footballguy
Pretty much this, Mahomes and T Kelce. Plus anytime the Eagles appear to be a consensus favorite, I get extremely worried about the sky falling and crazy things happening to ruin my day. It's a Philly thing.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
1. Jalen Hurts' shoulder is not right and he can't throw the ball with accuracy past 10 yards.
2. Steve Spagnuolo is a really good D coordinator. He comes up with a gameplan to bottle up the Eagles' running game by rotating secondary pieces into the box. The Eagle start the game with a bunch of 3-and-outs.
3. Mahomes ankle is improved enough that he is 85%. Mahomes is a magician in the pocket, the Chiefs' Oline is way underrated and the Eagles pressure never gets home. Mahomes will tear Philly apart in the middle of the field and out in the flats with downfield blockers. Kelce is going to have a big day, regardless. But, one of their unheralded WRs will have a game like MVS had against Cincy and come up huge.
4. Gannon gets out coached. Pacheco runs with intensity. Poor tackling and Gannon's tendency to play "bend, don't break" Defense lets KC put together a bunch of sustained, game-killing drives and keeps the Philly Offense from getting on the field. Close game, low scoring but never as close as the final score indicates.
2. Steve Spagnuolo is a really good D coordinator. He comes up with a gameplan to bottle up the Eagles' running game by rotating secondary pieces into the box. The Eagle start the game with a bunch of 3-and-outs.
3. Mahomes ankle is improved enough that he is 85%. Mahomes is a magician in the pocket, the Chiefs' Oline is way underrated and the Eagles pressure never gets home. Mahomes will tear Philly apart in the middle of the field and out in the flats with downfield blockers. Kelce is going to have a big day, regardless. But, one of their unheralded WRs will have a game like MVS had against Cincy and come up huge.
4. Gannon gets out coached. Pacheco runs with intensity. Poor tackling and Gannon's tendency to play "bend, don't break" Defense lets KC put together a bunch of sustained, game-killing drives and keeps the Philly Offense from getting on the field. Close game, low scoring but never as close as the final score indicates.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Honestly, I've never felt more confident about an Eagles team-I think they are the best I've ever seen, including 2017 and 2004. I think the offense has too many weapons and the scheme provides too many poisons for KC to pick. The Dline is historically good and while Mahomes is a ****ing magician, if he is hobbled at all I think this line will put constant pressure (I mentioned in the team thread that I threw $25 on Hassan Reddick MVP at +3500).
Push comes to shove my concern is simple-Jalen Hurts' history of playing small in big games.
2018 Nat'l Championship he was benched.
2019 Peach Bowl Hurts went 15/31 for 217 yards, 0 TDs and an INT in a loss.
2021 playoff game against TB, he went 23/42 for 258 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs in a brutal loss.
This years playoffs he's played good enough to win, but let's face it, he didn't play up to his normal abilities. In two games where the Eagles won by a combined 55 points he threw for a total of 275 yards and 2 TDs. The only positive takeaway from those games is that he ran for a TD in each of those games and most importantly did not turn the ball over. When the Eagles win the turnover battle, they win the game, period.
I love Jalen Hurts, I love his game and I love his character and his leadership. I fear that he is like another Philly favorite-Joel Embid-a monster in the regular season, but small in the big games. If anyone can prove me wrong its him. I hope he does.
Push comes to shove my concern is simple-Jalen Hurts' history of playing small in big games.
2018 Nat'l Championship he was benched.
2019 Peach Bowl Hurts went 15/31 for 217 yards, 0 TDs and an INT in a loss.
2021 playoff game against TB, he went 23/42 for 258 yards, 1 TD and 2 INTs in a brutal loss.
This years playoffs he's played good enough to win, but let's face it, he didn't play up to his normal abilities. In two games where the Eagles won by a combined 55 points he threw for a total of 275 yards and 2 TDs. The only positive takeaway from those games is that he ran for a TD in each of those games and most importantly did not turn the ball over. When the Eagles win the turnover battle, they win the game, period.
I love Jalen Hurts, I love his game and I love his character and his leadership. I fear that he is like another Philly favorite-Joel Embid-a monster in the regular season, but small in the big games. If anyone can prove me wrong its him. I hope he does.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Patrick Mahomes
-That answer is good on its own and many will say the same thing, however...
-The Chiefs have a young and very impressive Defense that appears to get better each week. I think the Eagles are a better overall defense going into the Super Bowl but the Chiefs D is full of guys they drafted and the Chiefs had a terrific draft class in 2022. In fact, KC opted to hit the "RELOAD" button in the middle of a mini Dynasty run and should they close the deal Sunday, I definitely would vote them as a Dynasty,
-MoP has great admiration and respect for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, he's perhaps the best I have ever seen and I saw a lot of Marino in the 80s in Miami, quickest release and biggest balls ever on a QB but he didn't have the mobility that Mahomes does and uses to create magic
-I think 3 weeks removed from the injury, he'll get a shot of whatever is required and I don't think he'll look bad at all. Plenty of time in the off season to ice it down and let it fully heal.
The Philadelphia Eagles have not been given much respect for what they've done so far, that will change with a victory and they will be listed with some of the greats.
MoP also feels the Igglz are about to start their own dynasty run. They have not 1 but 2 first round picks to wheel and deal and set this team up to be good for a long long time.
Hurts-AJB-Slim Reaper-Goedert and they can become players for the RB from Texas, they have that luxury and I think that would upgrade from Sanders. Imagine they had an 1,800-2,000 yd rushing machine to lay the tracks for that air assault they unleash. This team could actually be one of the all time great offenses depending on what thy do in the coming 5-6 months. I would continue to pour resources into the offense before Hurts runs you $50M a season which is coming and should make you happy to have a franchise QB.
This journey Philly has been on since they won the Super Bowl in 2017, there's a lot to learn here for other franchises.
KC has already done what Philly is attempting and at least some of them have to tip their cap to Philly.
I bet Andy Reid thinks the Eagles look pretty good and might be having a tough time sleeping at the moment.
Cheers!
-That answer is good on its own and many will say the same thing, however...
-The Chiefs have a young and very impressive Defense that appears to get better each week. I think the Eagles are a better overall defense going into the Super Bowl but the Chiefs D is full of guys they drafted and the Chiefs had a terrific draft class in 2022. In fact, KC opted to hit the "RELOAD" button in the middle of a mini Dynasty run and should they close the deal Sunday, I definitely would vote them as a Dynasty,
-MoP has great admiration and respect for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, he's perhaps the best I have ever seen and I saw a lot of Marino in the 80s in Miami, quickest release and biggest balls ever on a QB but he didn't have the mobility that Mahomes does and uses to create magic
-I think 3 weeks removed from the injury, he'll get a shot of whatever is required and I don't think he'll look bad at all. Plenty of time in the off season to ice it down and let it fully heal.
The Philadelphia Eagles have not been given much respect for what they've done so far, that will change with a victory and they will be listed with some of the greats.
MoP also feels the Igglz are about to start their own dynasty run. They have not 1 but 2 first round picks to wheel and deal and set this team up to be good for a long long time.
Hurts-AJB-Slim Reaper-Goedert and they can become players for the RB from Texas, they have that luxury and I think that would upgrade from Sanders. Imagine they had an 1,800-2,000 yd rushing machine to lay the tracks for that air assault they unleash. This team could actually be one of the all time great offenses depending on what thy do in the coming 5-6 months. I would continue to pour resources into the offense before Hurts runs you $50M a season which is coming and should make you happy to have a franchise QB.
This journey Philly has been on since they won the Super Bowl in 2017, there's a lot to learn here for other franchises.
KC has already done what Philly is attempting and at least some of them have to tip their cap to Philly.
I bet Andy Reid thinks the Eagles look pretty good and might be having a tough time sleeping at the moment.
Cheers!
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unckeyherb
Footballguy
That scenario is terrifying. I would legit just turn off my tv and hit the sack.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
My biggest fear: Every televised game, starting with the Super Bowl and into infinity, has Chris Simms in the booth.
kylechoffman
Footballguy
- Screens to the RBs
- Mahomes & Kelce
- Abandoning the run (Just run the damn ball)
- Arizona not greasing the light posts around the stadium..
TLEF316
Footballguy
Eagles have the better team top to bottom. As a neutral observer, I firmly believe that.
But I'm still SHOCKED at how confident eagles fans are with mahomes on the other side. The ones I talk to are celebrating already, treating it as a coronation. That's insane to me.
They could very well and win big, especially if mahomes can't move. But man are they setting themselves up for heartbreak.
But I'm still SHOCKED at how confident eagles fans are with mahomes on the other side. The ones I talk to are celebrating already, treating it as a coronation. That's insane to me.
They could very well and win big, especially if mahomes can't move. But man are they setting themselves up for heartbreak.
renesauz
IBL Representative
This
renesauz
IBL Representative
Not sure where you've been looking. I think this may be the best Eagles team in my lifetime....and Mahomes still scares the crap out of me.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Not an Eagles fan, but I agree with everyone else. Mahomes is the only way this game stays close. I have a feeling this game is going to remind everyone of the Tampa vs. Kansas City super bowl just a few years ago with the Chiefs scoring one more time. Eagles 38 - Chiefs 17.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
This is fairly accurate. Sports talk radio has people calling in predicting 48-10 blowouts. Its really weird as a pessimistic Birds fan to witness this level of confidence. Its not in the nature of Eagles fans to act like this, as we've had the rug pulled out from under us so many times; '02 being the worst.
All that being said, I am completely and totally, emotionally unprepared for a loss. I just think this team is better across the board with the exception of Mahomes vs Hurts. But even that is IMO closer than a lot of people will grant. I get it, Mahomes is a magician, but Hurts has been absolutely lights out this season. I'm not afraid of Mahomes as I think the Birds Defense is elite. Like I said above my only fear is Hurts coming up small in the big game. If he plays like he should and doesn't get caught up in the moment then I think we win and I think we win relatively easily.
My guess is something like 27-17
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Insoxicated
Insein
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
yup, i'm in this boat too. i like the Eagles chances for sure, but can't ignore Mahones. also worried about all the screen passes we will be seeing to slow down the Eagles pass rush and attack the one weakness on the Eagles defense.
Offensively, i am not sure that the offense will struggle much. i know KC defense is better than the impression their rankings have them at, i jut think if Jalen is able to connect on mid to deep passes there will be multiple ways the Eagles offense can attack that defense.
all of that being said, i don't think i can give a objective look at this game. with my Green colored glasses on, Eagles -37, Chiefs -27
Terpman22
Footballguy
Except this doesn't happen. Its a weird/ongoing trope that Philadelphia fans are monsters. INTENSE? Sure, but I'd challenge you to check for anything bad that happened after we won in 2018. This stuff is tired and lame.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
submitting an early request to the masses in here to come in and talk a little smack as one of the three KC fans on the board, if we pull off what apparently to many will be a massive upset.....?
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
2017 SB was an embarrassing zero defense versus zero defense matchup Brady threw for over 600 yards and the Eagles throttled the Pats. Comparing this year to 2004 is more interesting.
This year's run defense is better than 04 (Dillon ran wild). People rag on McNabb but he only puked because he was concussed by Seymour. Owens was all world in that game effectively playing on a broken leg. I think 04 Pats defense is a good comp to this year's chiefs. I kind of expect this game to play out like that game....but while I can trust most of what the Chiefs are bringing to the table, I can't trust a receiving target not named Kelce or McKinnon, so I think the Eagles take it.
Eagles 30 Chiefs 27.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I sure hope not. Eagles are 0-2 in Super Bowls when the QB throws 3 INTs in them
That 04 Pats team had a few future Hall of Famers on Defense. Not sure I see that guy on the Chiefs, maybe Chris Jones?? McNabb just sucked in big games, nothing more to say really.
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Insoxicated
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
Insein
Footballguy
Ok
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
legit, all these have been debunked. And there are butthole fans everywhere. It is really tired. And really lame.
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
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Insoxicated
legit, all these have been debunked.
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
Oh Come On
There's literally video of half of the stuff in those links
ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I didn't even look at them.legit, all these have been debunked.
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
Oh Come On
There's literally video of half of the stuff in those links
Booing Santa? old story, and the guy was hammered. In an old, grungy suit.
Cheering Michael Irvin injury? No, booing Deion on the field doing his pentecostal spirit dance.
Batteries at officials? OK, I'll give you that one. Like I said, there's always some fans that suck. But, I can dig up dozens of other examples from other fanbases of that.
I get it. It's fun to wave the Philly are classless thugs banner. So, keep waving it. But it's so 1995.
ChiefD
Footballguy
If I'm being honest this practice might need to be revived in 2023. For all fanbases.
Especially Carl Cheffers. I have double D's ready for him and I'm not talking about my man-boobs.
Terpman22
Footballguy
The thing about it is, you can find it with literally every fanbase these days. Pick a random fanbase, start a google search with that, then follow it up with "fight at Game" and its all there. Thats why its a trope for "just Eagles fans" bc its "Everyone"
Yes Very weird trope, Definitely with no basis in history.
Definitely didn't tear **** up in 2018
Definitely not famous for throwing **** at players/officials, definitely don't loudly celebrate major injuries to opposing players, etc.
Nope... wierd trope. You guys are saints.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
If we can, let's drop the talk about the fanbases and get back to the game. What are folks more concerned about?
Statorama
Footballguy
What specifically are you worried about?
pollardsvision
Footballguy
If I were Eagles fan, I'd be concerned that we don't really know how good/great the Eagles really are because the NFC is terrible and the only AFC exposure was the South.
Should be a good game and the Eagles are set up to 4 straight Super Bowls (see above), but people seem to be getting carried away here with the Eagles hype.
Monday morning, I have a feeling a lot of people will feel silly for giving points to Mahomes against a team that had previously only been tested by the likes of QB's like Goff and Danny Jones with no WRs.
Maybe the Eagles really are the all-time great team that everybody is saying they are. I just don't have a clue how we'd know.
Should be a good game and the Eagles are set up to 4 straight Super Bowls (see above), but people seem to be getting carried away here with the Eagles hype.
Monday morning, I have a feeling a lot of people will feel silly for giving points to Mahomes against a team that had previously only been tested by the likes of QB's like Goff and Danny Jones with no WRs.
Maybe the Eagles really are the all-time great team that everybody is saying they are. I just don't have a clue how we'd know.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
in two SB appearances Mahomes has tossed just 2 TDs and 4 INTs, with a QB rate avg of 64.2 ( 78.1 and 52.3 v TB), with an avg of 278 pass yards/gm and 26 completions, and 14 rushes for 62 yards and 1 rush td.
so, I don't think you need to worry about Mahomes here. going by past games played he's going to be incredibly ordinary.
as others have said you *might* worry about Hurts in a big game - but those college collapses were years ago he's grown and matured and I don't put much stock in things that happened in 2019/2020.
you worry about KC blitzing all the time. Spags blitzed the crap out of Brady in 2007 SB he had no time to throw. but philly will pary this with moving the pocket and going deep downfield. there is no one on that KC defense who can cover D. Smith. we DO know that this kid can flat out play like a beast in big games. tomorrow will be no different.
and another reason why you don't worry about anything, is that the Eagles have the best center in the game, Kelce. he's going to quiet that pass rush and run block his tail off.
so, I don't think you need to worry about Mahomes here. going by past games played he's going to be incredibly ordinary.
as others have said you *might* worry about Hurts in a big game - but those college collapses were years ago he's grown and matured and I don't put much stock in things that happened in 2019/2020.
you worry about KC blitzing all the time. Spags blitzed the crap out of Brady in 2007 SB he had no time to throw. but philly will pary this with moving the pocket and going deep downfield. there is no one on that KC defense who can cover D. Smith. we DO know that this kid can flat out play like a beast in big games. tomorrow will be no different.
and another reason why you don't worry about anything, is that the Eagles have the best center in the game, Kelce. he's going to quiet that pass rush and run block his tail off.
Cowherd was making the point yesterday: In 8 Super Bowl quarters, Mahomes has been bad for 7 of them.
Super interesting.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I posted in the game thread, the head ref has 12 playoff games under his belt. 11 of them have hit the under.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Eagles run blocking is elite, might be the best in the league. Admittedly, their pass blocking is so-so. The one thing they ARE good at is eliminating the opposing team's best pass rusher. Bosa did literally nothing in the NFCCG. Micah Parsons was a ghost when we played Dallas. Chris Jones is an elite pass rusher, but similar to SF no one behind him is very good-I don't think anyone else on the team has more than 6 sacks. I expect them to move him around, but if/when he's lined up against Johnson, I don't expect him to do much of anything. Mailata is a beast but can be beaten at times-he needs to play his best game.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
having trouble figuring out how what Mahomes did or didn't do in the last two super bowls has anything to do with what he will or won't do on Sunday.....stuff like that is just something to talk about but doesn't put any points on the board or take them off come Sunday.....will anybody really be "surprised" if he throws for 350/3.....
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Honestly, I would be kind of surprised. That being said, if he DOES go for 350/3 then the Eagles are in a shootout and they are not set up for that. Their game is to get up early and then just grind down the other team with the run game, converting 4th downs, staying on the field and chewing up clock. The defense is designed around NOT giving up the big plays but letting rushes and short stuff happen-burning the clock more. If we're in the 4th quarter and Mahomes is approaching 400 yards in the air, I think we're in deep doo doo because I don't think we can keep up with that.
Of course he's capable of anything. He's the best QB in the NFL right now. By a good margin. But the fact 7 of his 8 Super Bowl quarters have been bad is interesting to me. Fully understand it may not be to others.
Statorama
Footballguy
My concern is that the refs will have a negative impact on what should otherwise be an exciting game, especially if their calls seem weighted towards one team or the other.
I don't care if they call a tight game or a loose game, just have the same parameters apply to both teams.
Cool. Thanks for sharing. Of all the things I'd be worried about, officiating is miles down the list for me.
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