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Bucky86
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Parrothead
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Bucky86
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Have you ever flown internationally before? Do you think the exact plane that flew from Monrovia to Brussels was the same one that flew from Brussels to Dulles?
Parrothead
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Bucky86
Footballguy
I didn't say that. It was mentioned that we should restrict all incoming flights from that region. The man flew into the U.S. from Brussels. That isn't near Monrovia.
Fennis
Footballguy
of course we do.yeah, we got a handle on this
500,000+ malaria deaths in Africa last year. 0 in the US
approx 100,000 deaths caused by Cholera in Africa last year. 0 in the US.
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From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
Parrothead
Footballguy
we need to thin the herd anyway.. bring it on, right?!!of course we do.yeah, we got a handle on this
500,000+ malaria deaths in Africa last year. 0 in the US
approx 100,000 deaths caused by Cholera in Africa last year. 0 in the US.
Fennis
Footballguy
depends if I am in the part of the herd being thinned or not.we need to thin the herd anyway.. bring it on, right?!!of course we do.yeah, we got a handle on this
500,000+ malaria deaths in Africa last year. 0 in the US
approx 100,000 deaths caused by Cholera in Africa last year. 0 in the US.
Parrothead
Footballguy
why should you worry? its Africa's problemdepends if I am in the part of the herd being thinned or not.we need to thin the herd anyway.. bring it on, right?!!of course we do.yeah, we got a handle on this
500,000+ malaria deaths in Africa last year. 0 in the US
approx 100,000 deaths caused by Cholera in Africa last year. 0 in the US.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Charged with what? Didn't he enter the country legally?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Slowly, looking deep into its eyes.
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There should be a law for willfully traveling in public when you know you ought to be in quarantine. If not, they should make one up.Charged with what? Didn't he enter the country legally?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
Bucky86
Footballguy
Yeah...lets not.There should be a law for willfully traveling in public when you know you ought to be in quarantine. If not, they should make one up.Charged with what? Didn't he enter the country legally?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Again so.......check passports. if it shows you were in that region within 21 days you go into isolation/quarantine until cleared.
Bucky86
Footballguy
Sweet. So now we've gone from restricting flights coming from that region to internment camps?
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Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Don't want to be quarantined don/t travel...Its a privilege to travel from country to country not a right.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Close.....Not every international flight ...just the ones with ebola region travellers...now you are on to something..
Maybe you can volunteer to give Dallas Ebola Man sponge bathes,
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Bucky86
Footballguy
I think it would have to be every flight. Because then at what point do you notify the other passengers that they're not going to be landing in Miami, and instead GB, since the person sitting in 23F was in Africa 3 days ago?
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Bucky86
Footballguy
Only if you help me undress him.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Well if this was done properly the person in 23f wouldn't be in 23 f... because he was in africa 3 days ago....he would be in quarantine until cleared and then he can get his 23 f ticket and travel to the US
Psychopav
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Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure we can if we want...If Africa wants their people and Airlines to travel to our country they probably have to follow our rules whatever they may be.
Bucky86
Footballguy
I wonder if the president of Africa would go along with this?
Rohn Jambo
Footballguy
So death is not punishment enough?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
mquinnjr
Footballguy
I mean, we had a looney tune almost jump the gate into the White House. Is anyone really surprised Ebola hit the continental U.S.?So death is not punishment enough?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
FootballDummy
Footballguy
randall146
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Or, you know, we just deny travel visas to anyone coming from a country with active Ebola infections. It's way more simple than you guys are making it out to be. You don't need to track flights, set up quarantines, etc. You just protect the people in our country by refusing to offer visas to anyone coming from a country that has Ebola.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Don't introduce rational thinking. Everyone they interview is downplaying the risk. I get that our health system is better and they are likely correct about the small likelihood of a large scale outbreak. I don't think that makes those people he came in contact with while he was sick feel that much better. I don't understand why we wouldn't limit entry to the country to prevent more cases like this.
Fennis
Footballguy
Fennis
Footballguy
Fennis
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Mark Davis
Footballguy
I'm sure that would comfort you if you or someone in your family had come in contact with this guy.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I don't think he/they would have a choice..." We would like Manute Bol Airlines to make trips to the United States....Yeah no problem as soon as you satisfy our requirement of proof of quarantine of all of your passengers".
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Act of terrorism.......Charged with what? Didn't he enter the country legally?From what I'm reading, he helped a dying pregnant woman with Ebola, who was having convulsions, to the hospital on September 15, even helping to carry her. That's noble. But he got on a three flights with long layovers on the 19th and seems to have left that tidbit out in the triage interview. Seems awfully likely this guy knew he was infected, or that he might be. If he fled to the US for better care, he needs to be charged with something.so this infected guy is a Liberian national.. flew from Monrovia to Brussels, then to Dulles, then DFW.. went to the hospital and was released with antibiotics, and later was rushed back to hospital by EMTs... was in contact with numerous people, including neighbors, the EMTs, and at least 5 kids who attended 4 different schools.. not to mention the people on the flights...
yeah, we got a handle on this
Tom Servo
Nittany Beavers
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Georgia Guidestones rule #1: Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.we need to thin the herd anyway.. bring it on, right?!!of course we do.yeah, we got a handle on this
500,000+ malaria deaths in Africa last year. 0 in the US
approx 100,000 deaths caused by Cholera in Africa last year. 0 in the US.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I don't think the flights going to Liberia that are the problem...It's the ones coming back....They should be required to come back empty.
shader
Footballguy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-2777824/Texas-officials-say-80-people-exposed-Ebola-patient-NBC.html
According to this article, up to 80 people have been exposed to this patient. The good news is that if they identify those 80 people they should be able to put a clamp on it. The bad news is that I'm sure there is no way to truly identify every person that was exposed.
I know a lot of people think this is no big deal, as this is the US, and the US can deal with this...But this is a killer virus. Read The Hot Zone if you want to learn about it. The military and gov't were panicking because Ebola was spreading in a bunch of monkeys in a building in Reston.
Now it's out in the open. It's no laughing matter. These 80 people should immediately be quarantined, imo. My question is whether large groups of people are going to be ok with the quarantine that may need to happen if this is going to be stopped.
The bigger risk is that the virus is exploding in Sierra Leone and Liberia. Until travel is stopped from these countries, more infections will happen around the world.
According to this article, up to 80 people have been exposed to this patient. The good news is that if they identify those 80 people they should be able to put a clamp on it. The bad news is that I'm sure there is no way to truly identify every person that was exposed.
I know a lot of people think this is no big deal, as this is the US, and the US can deal with this...But this is a killer virus. Read The Hot Zone if you want to learn about it. The military and gov't were panicking because Ebola was spreading in a bunch of monkeys in a building in Reston.
Now it's out in the open. It's no laughing matter. These 80 people should immediately be quarantined, imo. My question is whether large groups of people are going to be ok with the quarantine that may need to happen if this is going to be stopped.
The bigger risk is that the virus is exploding in Sierra Leone and Liberia. Until travel is stopped from these countries, more infections will happen around the world.
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Parrothead
Footballguy
http://khon2.com/2014/10/01/patient-in-isolation-in-honolulu-hospital-officials-say-ebola-a-possibility/
possible Ebola in Hawaii?
possible Ebola in Hawaii?
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
The Texas Department of State Health Services on Wednesday issued a health alert outlining Ebola criteria that health care providers should watch for as they evaluate patients.
Doctors and nurses should look for fever greater than 101.5 degrees coupled with severe headache, muscle pain, vomiting, diarrhea, abdominal pain or unexplained hemorrhaging, the alert says.
Patients who have those symptoms and who also have been in contact with someone believed to have Ebola or have been in Liberia, Sierra Leone, Guinea or Nigeria in the past 21 days should be considered a person under investigation and should be tested for the disease, the alert says.
The alert notes that the virus does not generally spread through air, water or food, except in Africa, where handling or eating raw bushmeat can spread it.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/parents-fearing-ebola-remove-children-from-school/ar-BB6TzBc
Leaves room for doubt ....
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shader
Footballguy
Does not generally....It does spread through the air in pigs. Their claim is that in a lab environment it's never spread through the air in primates. But read The Hot Zone, and you may wonder whether there is much validity in that. Ebola is a Biosafety Level 4 hot agent. To even work on it in a lab, you have to go through extreme precautions.
Tom Skerritt
Footballguy
I will start being concerned when there is a 2nd confirmed Ebola+ patient.
El Floppo
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